ErunamoJAZZ wrote:

Hello!
About Simple:
What is the problem with sliders?, too many low diffs have long sliders. I think that are fine :3 The sliders seems too long for me! >< but if you're think they are fine so... fine ^^

About Advanced
Well... 00:03:816 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 00:17:530 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Note density feels good for this mapset (think in all diffs, not only in one), also, this is a Advanced diff, not a normal!, since BPM is low and im not overmapping, staring is a bit weird. Huh! I'm sorry, Every time I see a second level I think of normal, but - I think there's kind of "Over notes" in this part, maybe you should remove one or two?
00:24:387 (1) - I will ask more about this, thank you ;3 >:x I find it a little awkward and complicated.
00:52:673 (2) - Im following harp here. This break is appropriate imo.
00:55:245 (1) - 01:22:673 (1) - Sorry, I dont want kiai in this mapset. Song feels very calm. very well.
01:10:244 (3) - 01:13:245 (2) - 01:17:101 (3) - emm.. why?, if you said because it looks at top of grid, remember check if this is out in gameplay, not in editor. (And remember said why you was suggesting something, too xD). oh well, I meant that to THIS level, perhaps it would be preferable that the sliders will be close to each other.

[About last diff]
00:40:245 (2) - but, holding this, its feeling adequate here, imo. And same about kiai. very well.
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cute mod but, pls, avoid that red X.x
Thank you!

FoxyGrandpa wrote:

Hi!!

Abyss Lake

00:32:959 (1,2,3,4) - This part feels very awkward well, this rhythm could be difficut to read, so I tried to make this more playable. I tried polish it a bit :3

00:46:245 (5,1) - Space these 2 out more I changed a bit this pattern

Advanced


01:22:673 (1,2) - Blanket these a little better okay

01:43:888 (2,3) - this overlapping is really weird to read Stack is better here, I move tail a bit.
Simple

00:32:959 (1) - move this up to the white tic, sounds a lot smoother I moved this a bit, I hope feels better.

The map is very calming and nice, looks great!!! Thanks

Karen wrote:

first of all i think you can lower the hitsound volume by around 15% from the beginning to 00:27:816 - , because this part is calmer comparing with the next part and you used different hitsound system as well Agree, and applied.

Abyss Lake
are you sure you want to keep the OD8? personally i disagree with this since simple maps are supposed to have simple settings but meh, it depends on mappers Im sure about stats. OD8 is not very high anyway (Im not thinking in HR players).
00:44:316 (4,1) - enlarge the spacing because it confuses players i think okay
00:53:530 (1) - not a nice shape to me ;w; and i feel it's kinda empty to skip 00:54:173 - this beat hahaha, true, I remap this.
00:56:745 (4,5) - 01:00:173 (4,5) - 01:03:602 (5,6) - these triples are wrongly snapped i think, they should be on 1/6, but for the sake of playability i'm fine if you insist on your snapping choice. I know, I think 1/6 feels annoying with this song (you know, its calmly)

Simple
00:14:102 (3) - the slider might be a bit unclear to read, try make it clear like this http://puu.sh/pwPkV/2560265055.jpg mm.. okay.

that's it, you may call me for a recheck when your body is ready.

pkhg wrote:

rank when Gero arrives /o/

1. 01:26:102 - NC pattern got messy after this. Following your pattern, and the tone of the song. NC should be added here and at 01:29:530 - 01:32:959 - etc. instead.

1. 00:52:673 (2,1) - Why break time / empty here? Didn't see this in Simple, so this looks not really necessary to me.
2. 01:43:888 (2,3) - From all the 1/4 sounds that could've used something like this, the least audible one has it. Quite sudden and strange, but as it's still fine as is, it's up to you.

1. OD8 seems strange and unusual for this BPM / actual difficulty. Setting it to 7 will cause for a more balanced spread (3/5/7).
2. 01:35:530 - This end could use a drum-whistle. Might apply to other diffs too.

appleeaterx wrote:

From in-game request :3/

[Simple]

1. 01:26:102 - NC pattern got messy after this. Following your pattern, and the tone of the song. NC should be added here and at 01:29:530 - 01:32:959 - etc. instead. wow, I didn't noticed this, thanks

[Advanced]

1. 00:52:673 (2,1) - Why break time / empty here? Didn't see this in Simple, so this looks not really necessary to me. mapped, just circles.
2. 01:43:888 (2,3) - From all the 1/4 sounds that could've used something like this, the least audible one has it. Quite sudden and strange, but as it's still fine as is, it's up to you. Not changed.

[Abyss Lake]

1. OD8 seems strange and unusual for this BPM / actual difficulty. Setting it to 7 will cause for a more balanced spread (3/5/7). Sorry, I am not agree. AR8 feels appropriate for me. Ar7 did jumps a bit weird for me.
2. 01:35:530 - This end could use a drum-whistle. Might apply to other diffs too. Good catch. Fixed

Call me back!

1. 00:00:388 - Starting this point with 45% on this part sounds very noisy and odd because the song actually increases its own sounds between this section 00:02:102 - . Hence, I heavily suggest to manage different volume points to emphasize better each segments since they're actually different form each other.
   Like this

   
   Section

   
   Code

   388,428.571428571429,4,2,1,15,1,0
   388,-100,4,2,1,15,0,0
   2102,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
   3816,-100,4,2,1,45,0,0
   7245,-100,4,2,1,15,0,0
   8959,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
   10673,-100,4,2,1,45,0,0
   14102,-100,4,2,1,15,0,0
   15816,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
   17530,-100,4,2,1,45,0,0
   20959,-100,4,2,1,15,0,0
   22673,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
   24388,-100,4,2,1,45,0,0
   26959,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
   27530,-100,4,2,1,15,0,0
   27816,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0
   33495,-66.6666666666667,4,2,1,50,0,0
   33816,-100,4,2,1,60,0,0

   The same would apply to similar the similar sections. Please, try it!
2. I'm actually unsure why you decided to map this song as double BPM when the stress and the strongest beats are actually on 70 BPM. You can clearly notice it at looking at these beats 00:00:388 - 00:03:816 - 00:07:245 - etc. There's no need to follow the piano tiles as the main metronome when the drums emphasize better the beats of this song. I do believe it mapping the song with the half-BPM would increase as much the experience of the rhythm structure given to this map as the players who play with Night-core. What do you think? o:
3. 00:13:995 (7) - 00:20:852 (7) - are unsnapped to the piano tile themselves. As the piano waves were supposed to be followed here, this note 00:13:995 (7) - should be on the 1/6 tick, which means here 00:14:030 - , and correspondingly this note 00:20:852 (7) - should be here 00:20:888 - . I don't actually agree with highlighting those minor piano sounds that whether to make them play better as 1/4 beats just to simply the rhythm or not, it just doesn't help at all with the main beats which were supposed to be emphasized here. Therefore, snapping them to the right tick would fit this difficulty the best.
4. 00:27:530 (1) - Why new combo here? The way I see things, it seems rather indirect and odd due to the stress isn't as strong as the previous beats, Hence, this ends being random to players because it doesn't keep the consistency of new combos you managed on the previous patterns. That's why I think it would fit this difficulty the best if you removed the NC there to fix up this issue. Just as well as you managed it here 00:41:102 (3) -
5. 00:33:709 (3,1) - I'm not sure snapping these objects to the 1/12 ticks when the transition of them feels somehow awkward is a good idea. The problem is that when this slider ends 00:33:709 (3) - there's no way players to expect that the next object goes accordingly to the way you mapped this segment that thus ends being somewhat confusing. I highly suggest to try out a different rhythm that highlight the same beats but creates a more intuitive pattern to read and play.
   
   What about this?

   
6. 00:41:530 (1) - The finish here feels really random whereas the other exact notes aren't being highlighted in the same way. By far I can tell this is the only finish-sound used during the whole song and that makes feel these other sliders 00:44:959 (1) - 00:48:388 (1) - 00:49:245 (2) - which have basically the same sound, are emphasized without the finish. I do believe removing it would match the song better because as long as the other sliders aren't being rhythmically highlighted in the same way, there's no need to call up for hitsound-variation here.
7. 01:03:709 (6) - Overmapped. There's no slight sound, neither piano sound nor drums to highlight here.
8. 00:46:673 (1) - This slider doesn't give the proper emphasis to the instruments according to how you built up this section. As it is now, it seems that it randomly avoids emphasizing this sound 00:46:888 - just because how following pattern was built. Therefore, I think it would be better if you changed it to a slider snapped to 1/2 tick plus a reverse to don't skip the prominent beats.
9. 01:14:531 (2) - This slider-head with no hitsounds on it feels rather empty. What about if you highlight the piano sound here with a whistle? I do believe in this way, you'll cover nicely the instruments as you've been doing it until now.
10. 01:49:245 (4,5) - What about doing ctrl + G over these sliders but one by one to give another motion/flow to this pattern? the reason I say it is because the transition feels somehow unnatural to me.

1. volume rising gradually at the beginning does make sense, yes you'd better fix it.
2. 00:13:888 (6,7,1) - can be treated as kind of simplification, it's a problem at all but in case if you want to get it fixed.
3. 00:41:530 (1) - finish here makes sense, there is cymbal anyways, 00:44:959 - 00:48:388 - 00:51:816 - are only piano sounds, so I don't think you should add finish to all of them
4. 01:03:709 (6) - this kind of overmapping are acceptable too, a triplet makes rhythm more interesting rather than 1/2 spamming.
5. 00:46:673 (1) - Let's say that 1/1 fits better, it differs from - 00:43:245 - 00:50:102 (1) - 00:53:530 - , the other three are almost only piano sound which are 1/2s, so 1/2 rhythm sounds natuaral, but 00:46:673 - and 00:47:102 - has a sound track that is stronger than the piano track, 1/2 rhythm wouln't express the music well, 1/1 to emphasize the special sounds is the better chocie.
6. 01:14:531 (2) - feels blank, you could delete whistle from 01:14:102 (1) - 's tail and add it to 01:14:530 -

Sonnyc wrote:

Random comment passing by.

1. Finish in 00:41:530 - is really appropriate, if you delete this slider and listen, here is a "Plaaassshhhhh" background sound. The best hitsound for this is a Finish.
2. 00:46:673 (1) - Im following contrabass here, as Fycho said.
3. 01:49:245 (4,5) - Flow is fine here. Any player felt it wrong (and I took a lot of testplays)
4. OD8 is fine, its only 3 diffs maps, not a 7diifs set.

Nwolf wrote:

SPOILER

taiko mod for Ono, a few things were discussed in IRC already

[Oni]

00:26:102 - SV could be improved: http://puu.sh/rt92j/2f6f6485d6.png much better

00:26:745 - COULD BE A COOL NOT FOR A MORE SLOWDOWN EFFECT but you said no already c: exactly

00:49:673 - Feels like an unfitting break, I know it's for less stale rhythm but with the removal of 00:46:459 - and 00:46:245 - becoming big kat it has the same effect with less weird breaks. AKA add a don here done

00:51:816 (2,1) - Finishers?? done


00:55:673 - Could add a kat here for the melody. Generally the kiai feels a little bit empty even with 1/4, as there's a lot of large breaks and unused opportunities.
> 00:59:102 - 01:02:530 - 01:05:959 - 01:09:388 - 01:12:816 - 01:16:245 - 01:19:673 - Same changed whole kiai instead

00:57:388 - Sounds better if this note was 00:57:173 - here instead due to several notes being here in the song. Then it also fits to 01:00:602 (1,2,3,1) - better. done
> 01:04:245 (1) - Same done

01:04:673 (1,2,3) - The color is inconsistent with all other notes on the 3rd beat (which is blue) and I also don't know why there's a triplet here. Okay, variety, sure. Could be a kat triplet at least. Note. It does NOT appear in the 2nd half of the kiai! (01:18:388 - ) ^

01:18:816 (2,3) - Should be removed if we consider 01:11:959 - as the same spot and 01:14:959 (1,2,3,4) - as the variation

01:46:459 (2) - compared to 01:39:602 - on purpose? I don't really mind it, just asking yeah, on purpose. Rise of notes due to the fluet.


[Muzukashii]

00:40:888 - Should have a kat like 00:33:602 (5,6,7,8) - here. Maybe even have this be a 6-plet somehow.
00:40:245 - Actually let a slider start here Oni has a slider too, sliders are beautiful better!

00:55:673 - Same as Oni but this time I'm not pointing out all I wanna stay sane (esp if you deny this) It is possible, indeed. But if you ask me, I find it very fitting since it has a good "Abgang" / "abklang" in these moments which make the upcoming kats be more emphasized.

01:27:388 (2) - Why is this a finisher while 01:23:959 (1) - 01:30:816 (1) - aren't? There's already a difference with it being a kat. 01:34:245 (2) - 01:41:102 (2) - also aren't finishers. E.g. 01:26:959 (1,2) - 1 is already a kat and would take the impact of upcoming note if it would be not a finisher. In all honest Nwolf, I actually don't know how to explain it in english. Der Grund warum ich so viele Lücken habe oder finishers an bestimmten stellen sind ist einfach der, das ich finde, das jene finisher einen sehr guten Abgang einer stanza oder einer bestimmten Note inszenieren. Abgang im Sinne von, die finisher hallen für einen Moment ins Nichts was ihnen und den nachfolgenden Noten mehr kraft verleit. Finisher und Folgenoten sind voneinander getrennt und beziehen sich dadurch nur auf ihre Stanza was dazu führt das die Noten auch für sich mehr Kraft beanspruchen. So gesehen wände ich dieses Mal ein eher "Lokales mapping" an, anstatt ein "Globales" bei dem normalerweise jedes pattern eng mit den vorherigen oder nachkommenden verbunden ist. On the other hand, 01:41:102 (2) - changed to K lol

01:42:388 (5,6,7) - Compared to other things in this diff this feels rather random and out of place, there aren't really 1/4 in this diff. true

01:48:602 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Should be less dense imo. Makes a bigger difference to Oni and doesn't the density of Muzukashii that much. Also Oni has no 1/4 here done


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