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I'd rather eat up alt right propoganda than regressive left propoganda 
Remember that the real victims of any teror attacks aren't the dead or their families, not the community around them, but every muslim in the world that has to deal with the aftermath - Actual fucking opinion I heard
Remember that the real victims of any teror attacks aren't the dead or their families, not the community around them, but every muslim in the world that has to deal with the aftermath - Actual fucking opinion I heard
I wish someone would refuse to bake a cake for me
another one
And we managed to get to page 33 before the thread got derailed.
Congratulations guys, all of you!!
Congratulations guys, all of you!!
Still On-topic imo.
This thread was a mistake and its location was a bigger oneKisses wrote:
And we managed to get to page 33 before the thread got derailed.
Congratulations guys, all of you!!
+1Khelly wrote:
This thread was a mistake and its location was a bigger oneKisses wrote:
And we managed to get to page 33 before the thread got derailed.
Congratulations guys, all of you!!
Actual discussion ended at page 14
probably one of the few things I've agrred with Khelly on in this threadKhelly wrote:
This thread was a mistake and its location was a bigger oneKisses wrote:
And we managed to get to page 33 before the thread got derailed.
Congratulations guys, all of you!!
Did you play my map yet
I'm still on my phone :/Khelly wrote:
Did you play my map yet
Mania on the phone sounds like an ideaTeffammie Maye wrote:
I'm still on my phone :/Khelly wrote:
Did you play my map yet
It's ironic that these are the same people accusing white males of 'rape culture' and 'rape apology'.Navizel wrote:
I guess Swedish and German girls not reporting sexual harassments done by rapefugees to them is tolerance, Idk, seems like mental disorder to me.
-Homosexual relationships, acts or behavior illegal in 36 Islamic countries. 10 impose the death penalty for homosexuals.Mogsworth wrote:
people who don't understand the difference between ISIS and actual practicing Muslims are people who shouldn't be allowed to comment on "Islam's threat"
but then again this seems to be a garbage group of people who take Stormfront statistics at their word, so I'm gonna stop posting in this thread
have fun, eat up that alt-right propaganda
-Two thirds of all reported incidents of anti-gay violence in Amsterdam are by Muslim youths.
-As of 1999 in Iran, more than 4000 lesbians and gays had been executed since the 1979 Islamic revolution.
Source: wikiislam.net (not an alt-right site)
http://puu.sh/pALyw/42a8b97831.webm
ISIS are simply fundamentalist muslims. I understand Islam better than you, I don't ignore facts and statistics and what is written in the Qur'an to suit my ideology.
I've heard something along these lines beforeKhelly wrote:
Remember that the real victims of any teror attacks aren't the dead or their families, not the community around them, but every muslim in the world that has to deal with the aftermath - Actual fucking opinion I heard
B1rd gets it.
Men have always been the primary victims of rape.
Men lose their wives, their mothers, their daughters in rape.
- Hillary Clinton
Men lose their wives, their mothers, their daughters in rape.
- Hillary Clinton
I don't think that USA will go to shit just because Trump gets elected, he only seems like he wants the best for USA. Even though some things he has said are just pure stupidity.
People need to chill down a bit i feel like.
People need to chill down a bit i feel like.
"If you let your enemies rape your relatives, you win." - Justin TrudeauKhelly wrote:
Men have always been the primary victims of rape.
Men lose their wives, their mothers, their daughters in rape.
- Hillary Clinton
fixedNavizel wrote:
"If you let your enemies rape your relatives, you win." - Justin Cuckdeau
I really hope Trump will win.
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ok guys this is the kind of ads we get in the U.S. (and in my state) - i think katie mcginty is running for the senate or something
if ur in the U.S., idk if u get these commercials in ur state, but i know i get them a TON in my state
presidential commercials are exactly like these too
get out while u can
if ur in the U.S., idk if u get these commercials in ur state, but i know i get them a TON in my state
presidential commercials are exactly like these too
get out while u can
I forgot American Politics doesn't just equal the presidental election
Topic Starter
its easy to forget lolKhelly wrote:
I forgot American Politics doesn't just equal the presidental election
I'm not a fan of either Trump or HRC and it's kinda unfortunate that I'll have to choose between one of them in November. I'm leaning Clinton for now.
The biggest reason I'm probably going to vote Clinton is because of the Supreme Court.
I hate how she's basically corrupt as fuck, but Trump isn't really that much better in that regard.
The whole thing is a shitfest. Politics sucks :C
The biggest reason I'm probably going to vote Clinton is because of the Supreme Court.
I hate how she's basically corrupt as fuck, but Trump isn't really that much better in that regard.
The whole thing is a shitfest. Politics sucks :C
>Supreme Court
>Corrupt as fuck
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>Corrupt as fuck
??????????
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I hate how she's basically corrupt as fuck, but Trump isn't really that much better in that regard.
also hi Faust
I like your Benkei pic
what politics
I thought the economy's lobby rules the country regardless of who's president.
I thought the economy's lobby rules the country regardless of who's president.
Hitlery is so establishment it hurts
daddy is gonna make america great again
daddy is gonna make america great again
I still have no idea what a liberal is, but yeah, you can make america great again without being a racist cunt
so... outside observers then?Matrix wrote:
people like you are why this country might actually collapse.
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Myself, because I've listened to the shit he spews and made my own independent judgements as to the man's character.Matrix wrote:
so who told you he was racist?Mahogany wrote:
I still have no idea what a liberal is, but yeah, you can make america great again without being a racist cunt
Translation: "I have no real arguments and absolutely no desire to see the world from anyone else's viewpoint yet will continue to push my own upon others and deride those who disagree"Matrix wrote:
i would love to argue with you but i already know how it will turn out.
This is exactly what I hate about the cancerous vocal side of trump supporters
That's literally what I hear from the other side
My explanation of US politics: "Everything sucks and I wanna leave".
Bernie endorsed Clinton and I'm a bit salted about that, but I'm probably gonna write him in or vote Green Party. I can't vote for Trump nor Hillary without feeling disgusting.
Terrible first voting year for me. I wanna move but it's not that easy, especially since I'm already pretty well set for my college enrollment here and I don't make any money on my own yet aside from babysitting and that's not gonna get me far.
*unfortunate trombone sounds*
Bernie endorsed Clinton and I'm a bit salted about that, but I'm probably gonna write him in or vote Green Party. I can't vote for Trump nor Hillary without feeling disgusting.
Terrible first voting year for me. I wanna move but it's not that easy, especially since I'm already pretty well set for my college enrollment here and I don't make any money on my own yet aside from babysitting and that's not gonna get me far.
*unfortunate trombone sounds*
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Trump proves himself to be at least bigoted with the blanket statements he makes about muslims and the fact he wants to build a wall that will solve nothing when it comes to immigration. He's off his rocker if he thinks he can accomplish any of his statements.
Mahogany wrote:
Translation: "I have no real arguments and absolutely no desire to see the world from anyone else's viewpoint yet will continue to push my own upon others and deride those who disagree"
This is exactly what I hate about the cancerous vocal side of bernie/hillary supporters
Sums up my views on Trump:
also praise milo our lord and savior
also praise milo our lord and savior
I'd turn gay for Milo tbh
You get bonus points for having an avatar from Deep-sea Prisoner.
il give you points for having cute avatar.(please dont change it to a male, il get beheaded by the muslims if liberals take over)Faust wrote:
You get bonus points for having an avatar from Deep-sea Prisoner.
Benkei is a babe, yes.
I don't remember clearly, but that's from Wadanohara & The Great Blue Sea ? Been years.
I don't remember clearly, but that's from Wadanohara & The Great Blue Sea ? Been years.
yup, i havent gotten around to playing the game yet, but this avatar is for a collab my friend has.Faust wrote:
Benkei is a babe, yes.
I don't remember clearly, but that's from Wadanohara & The Great Blue Sea ? Been years.
keeps bugging me to play it so il do it soon xD(chronola if you are reading this hi)
Still waiting on General Hashasky's Great Adventure to be released.
Taking ages.
Taking ages.
the fuck are you going on about? I have a strong dislike for this muslim bullshit too. Hilary Clinton? I don't like or support Hilary Clinton either. Why are you telling me this?Matrix wrote:
heres one, have you seen what muslim countries look like? all of the horrible things that go on? ok now imagine a country being inflated with muslims. you know what will change? your laws are going to start to change, your culture will start to change. eventually our country could end up like theirs. heres a fun fact about hillary clinton. she wants to bring in loads of muslims, but isnt she for all those gay and lesbian people? she claims she is anyways. did you know if you are found out to be gay in a muslim country, you could be punished by death?
Regardless of your stance or solution to these problems, holding a bigoted stance like Trump does will only cause damage while doing this. In my opinion, the best way to solve this problem is just to prevent further immigration and leave those who are already there, there.Matrix wrote:
incase you didnt know muslims are already being flooded into the country, my point for trump is that he actually acknowledges the problem and wants to deport them
I can see the argument behind deportation, but if you were to deport them, at least don't do it while being an absolute cunt.
Do you have a fucking clue how much the US government spends on military projectsMatrix wrote:
i bet you dont even know how much money a year they cost us in tax dollars(which btw is over 100 billion dollars).
It is far more than they spend on immgirants. If you're going to be complaining about a waste of tax money, you seriously need to be complaining about arms first.
I find it fucking unbelievable that the US spends so much tax money on Arms and they seem to be fine with it, yet free education and healthcare are so far away.
I try my best to access news of both sides. I try my best to construct the most rational, unbiased view of both sides that I can, by reading sources from both sides of the conversation.Matrix wrote:
il bet you listen to the shitty media on the internet
However, it's really difficult to do that when I'm finding it really hard to find a Trump supporter who isn't unbearable and can rationally and respectfully explain their opinions on the matter to me in the most unbiased, truthful and straightforwards manner they can.
I mean, fuck, just look at /r/TheDonald. They started up /r/Hilaryforprison for fuck's sake. How am I supposed to find a rational person in that pile of shit?
And yeah, /r/Sandersforpresident is pretty sad too, but at least I don't feel like wanting to punch someone everytime I see it in /r/all
All I know about a "liberal" is that it's one "side" of American politics (Which in my opinion is really fucking stupid) and all this just gives the me impression that people can't think for themselves and create their own stance.Matrix wrote:
also you litterally told me you dont even know what a liberal is, that actually tells me you dont even know the basics of politics.
You've proven my point already here, when I say I'm anti-trump, you've automatically assumed I'm pro-hilary, pro-immigration and pro-muslim. That's really fucking stupid. I think rampant, unchecked immigration is really fucking stupid, I also really dislike hilary, and I honestly think that part of the muslim population can go fuck themselves until they learn to accept and integrate into other cultures, else they're not fucking welcome.
Are American people not allowed to have an independent opinion that doesn't fit into one of these two "sides" or something? Because that's the vibe you're giving me. I can have a legitimate stance on this bullshit without choosing one of these two predetermined "sides".
And no, not knowing the real meaning of a word does not discredit me at all, because it has very little relevance to my stances and opinions.
Ayy lmao now this is just hilariousMatrix wrote:
i could argue with you for a very long time, but i dont need to speak to an ignorant bastard who has an unhealthy obsession with touching himself to a picture of a pony. im pretty open to logical discussions if you are good at making points but as i said, i already know how it will turn out with you.
Don't you know? On the Internet, criticizing someone means that you automatically support their opponent. You can't dislike Trump if you're not a paid shill for Hillary! /sMahogany wrote:
the fuck are you going on about? I have a strong dislike for this muslim bullshit too. Hilary Clinton? I don't like or support Hilary Clinton either. Why are you telling me this?
I haven't read any post in here in ever
So you're saying he's going to solve actual problems, like healthcare and education? Really? Because I think that money is just going to get hopelessly pumped back into the worthless sinkhole that is the military budget, and he's yet to prove otherwise.Matrix wrote:
i really dont understand how you can try to argue against some things im saying by stating other problems that need to be acknowledged, and these problems just so happen to be things donald trump litterally PLANS to fix.
Do you have any idea what the role of a president is?Matrix wrote:
this just kills me, i love how alot of peoples points for donald trump usually is something along the lines of "hes a prick"
A president is literally a fucking representative of a country. If that representative is a cunt, that's a really REALLY negative trait which is a MASSIVE problem. The fuck do they teach you in school?
>Implying you've tried to understand anything I've readMatrix wrote:
judging by what you have tried to argue so far, you really dont know much about this and highly base your opinion on the man off of what you have seen on the crappy media. give me a real reason to dislike him and maybe il actually listen to you, but you have still failed to make a point that even comes close to changing my mind.
>Implying you're open to change or reason
I have plenty of information to make an educated judgement on his trump's character.
Ugh, I'm gonna regret taking the bait.
First of all, while it's true you never explicitly called him a Hillary supporter, you certainly did word it as if the only possible viewpoints he can take are pro-Trump and pro-Hillary, and not, you know, neither. Why else would you bring her up in your defense?
Secondly, I haven't even talked to this guy.
Also, you're one to call me stupid when you can't even punctuate and capitalize properly, but that's none of my business...
First of all, while it's true you never explicitly called him a Hillary supporter, you certainly did word it as if the only possible viewpoints he can take are pro-Trump and pro-Hillary, and not, you know, neither. Why else would you bring her up in your defense?
Secondly, I haven't even talked to this guy.
Also, you're one to call me stupid when you can't even punctuate and capitalize properly, but that's none of my business...
hahahaha
everyone who has a different political opinion than me is a retarded bigot hahaha
I'm gonna make an impenetrable argument now without providing sources or illustrating my point in a way that it can be refuted without my opponents spending a considerable amount of time on reducing my statements to something that is quantifiable, because most of the shit I say is general and vague.
On the other side: If I say something against candidate A, I must automatically be in favor of the complete opposite side, there is nothing in between.
I hate political discussions so much.
everyone who has a different political opinion than me is a retarded bigot hahaha
I'm gonna make an impenetrable argument now without providing sources or illustrating my point in a way that it can be refuted without my opponents spending a considerable amount of time on reducing my statements to something that is quantifiable, because most of the shit I say is general and vague.
On the other side: If I say something against candidate A, I must automatically be in favor of the complete opposite side, there is nothing in between.
I hate political discussions so much.
see?
That's not how rational discourse works.You aren't interested in learning something about the other persons view, so you might as well not talk to each other. Thanks for wasting everyone's time. And now go away and be ashamed.
Also, how smart you are for writing these messages in so little time. I am impressed, honestly. Teach me please.
That's not how rational discourse works.You aren't interested in learning something about the other persons view, so you might as well not talk to each other. Thanks for wasting everyone's time. And now go away and be ashamed.
Also, how smart you are for writing these messages in so little time. I am impressed, honestly. Teach me please.
when did this turn into a grammar and capitalization war
See, thats the thing. You both post pages of content with lengthy post over lengthy post, and in the end you still claim that the other person basically said nothing. This is an immature political discussion in a nutshell. You're so stuck in your own shit, you can't even begin to see what the other person says.
"im writing these in a minute or less i could give a fuck how they look." That is why I said it. You are not writing 10 paragraphs in a minute or less, that's just bloody obvious. It's just a way of subtly saying how smart you supposedly are, which you are probably not. Now go play. I'm not interested in this. You guys are just flaming each other, and it's sad to see.
"im writing these in a minute or less i could give a fuck how they look." That is why I said it. You are not writing 10 paragraphs in a minute or less, that's just bloody obvious. It's just a way of subtly saying how smart you supposedly are, which you are probably not. Now go play. I'm not interested in this. You guys are just flaming each other, and it's sad to see.
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Matrix says they love to argue but they way they're wording their 'argument' it sounds like they're more aiming to belittle anyone who doesn't agree with them. They're just being confrontational for their own entertainment at this point and not trying to understand any view points. They're basically acting like a child like most Trump supporters and any outspoken and uneducated member of any side does.
This is why we can't have civil discussion.
This is why we can't have civil discussion.
i like your signatureRailey2 wrote:
This tbh. I just visit this thread for fun.Railey2 wrote:
On the other side: If I say something against candidate A, I must automatically be in favor of the complete opposite side, there is nothing in between.
I hate political discussions so much.
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I visit for the cringe factor. I don't get Trump Supporters sometimes but I understand the issues that make them turn to such a jerk for guidance.piruchan wrote:
This tbh. I just visit this thread for fun.Railey2 wrote:
On the other side: If I say something against candidate A, I must automatically be in favor of the complete opposite side, there is nothing in between.
I hate political discussions so much.
Evidently, because you're still replyingMatrix wrote:
i could give a fuck what you think.
I know that he's a racist cunt, that's what I know. I care little for anything about him besides that, but what he says is disgusting and unacceptable from the position of a person who could potentially have power.Matrix wrote:
i want to know what you know.
Matrix wrote:
you make me fucking sick
Matrix wrote:
you blatantly know absolutely NOTHING.
Matrix wrote:
hahahaha the internet is disgusting
And this is a significant portion of why I find it hard to agree with anything you've said, because you're acting like a cunt. And, honestly, the reason I find it hard to find any redeeming factors in trump or in anyone who supports him, because every vocal supporter of trump I've met is a cunt just like you're being right now.Matrix wrote:
you only look like a dumbass
Basically all of this ^RoseusJaeger wrote:
Matrix says they love to argue but they way they're wording their 'argument' it sounds like they're more aiming to belittle anyone who doesn't agree with them. They're just being confrontational for their own entertainment at this point and not trying to understand any view points. They're basically acting like a child like most Trump supporters and any outspoken and uneducated member of any side does.
This is why we can't have civil discussion.
I'd love to have a legitimate sitdown with a chill, nice, friendly, rational and and understanding trump supporter, for once in my life, so I could actually come to understand the appeal some people seem to see in the man and understand their reasonings..
But for as long as the supporters I meet act like matrix, I won't be able to do that.
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From the last few posts I've read back and forth, they're trying to explain to you why Trump would be a bad leader. His plans are confrontational to the advancement of the United States as a society and to keeping peace with other nations.Matrix wrote:
nope, thats not true at all. if you argue with me and explain your reasoning and it makes sense im completely willing to understand it.RoseusJaeger wrote:
Matrix says they love to argue but they way they're wording their 'argument' it sounds like they're more aiming to belittle anyone who doesn't agree with them. They're just being confrontational for their own entertainment at this point and not trying to understand any view points. They're basically acting like a child like most Trump supporters and any outspoken and uneducated member of any side does.
This is why we can't have civil discussion.
but the person im arguing with unfortunately fails to do any of that. its merely what he thinks, not what he knows.
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this is not how arguing works. It's fun for you to feel superior by insulting other people, that is what you do.
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So you're happy to damage your own cause for the sake of cheap kicks?Matrix wrote:
i use the attitude for a reason, its fun to argue.
building a wall around mexico comes to mind immediatelyMatrix wrote:
edit: didnt see the portion with trump, show me some proof of his racism.
Also banning immigration from countries with a history of terrorism, that too
you'll never find a human version of waifu if you keep that up man
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The wall and banning immigration is racist because he's actively blaming an entire race AND religion for the problems of the US in a way that vilifys people with stereotypes and addressing the issue like they aren't people but as pests. He's not understanding the human part of the issue and his policies aren't helping from the root of the problem and going to cost the US morally and tax-wiseMahogany wrote:
So you're happy to damage your own cause for the sake of cheap kicks?Matrix wrote:
i use the attitude for a reason, its fun to argue.building a wall around mexico comes to mind immediatelyMatrix wrote:
edit: didnt see the portion with trump, show me some proof of his racism.
Also banning immigration from countries with a history of terrorism, that too
I know you don't take what I said seriously, but here. I marked all the parts that give away that you focus more on insulting people than on arguing.Matrix wrote:
"because i think"Mahogany wrote:
Because I think that money is just going to get hopelessly pumped back into the worthless sinkhole that is the military budget, and he's yet to prove otherwise.
i dont need to read anymore of that nonsense. i could give a fuck what you think. i want to know what you know.
you make me fucking sick, how about you read his healthcare reform and see what he plans to do about it? it doesnt seem bad at all.
you know absolutely nothing i dont even need to talk to you anymore for real. its different if you know how to argue, but you blatantly know absolutely NOTHING. how about you listen to the shit he says about education as well?
I know that you're young and probably enjoy throwing your opinion around, but please do yourself a favor and stay away from topics that are as emotionally loaded as politics. You clearly don't know how to handle them. Learn how to stay neutral first, then come back.
What happens if he doesn't listen to you. Because, you know. He doesn't have to. And topics like this are useless because no one changes how they feel about anything ever.
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The fact you like insulting people makes your argument invalid, at least to me it does. People who won't take the time to give a civil debate can gtfo.Matrix wrote:
Railey2 wrote:
I know you don't take what I said seriously, but here. I marked all the parts that give away that you focus more on insulting people than on arguing.
I know that you're young and probably enjoy throwing your opinion around, but please do yourself a favor and stay away from topics that are as emotionally loaded as politics. You clearly don't know how to handle them. Learn how to stay neutral first, then come back.
you try way to hard to sound cool, i already admitted i like insulting people. quit acting like you have authority hahaha
It's racism because it makes a broad generalization of a group of people.Matrix wrote:
its racism because he wants to solve the issue of immigration?
Are you really this narrow minded? "Countries with a history of terrorism" Isn't just the islamic countries you're used to seeing on the news. You know what country has a history of terrorim? Ireland. You'd support a ban on Irish immigration to America? America has a really fucking rich history inherited from the Irish, better deport a fuckton of your own people.Matrix wrote:
refer to the first post when i gave you an example of what happens in muslim countries, its not just a history of terrorism its what their religion believes in.
Such massive sweeping broad generalizations are really fucking stupid, which is why trump is a really poor choice for a president.
This is the reason your country is the laughing stock of the world.Matrix wrote:
im arguing with a bunch of teenagers who cant vote.(including myself)
Also, fucking speak for yourself, I can vote.
Tooth since when you could vote in american elections?
So if I think taiko players are all smelly is that racist or did you forget racist has to deal with race as a basis?Mahogany wrote:
It's racism because it makes a broad generalization of a group of people.Matrix wrote:
its racism because he wants to solve the issue of immigration?
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This is the reason your country is the laughing stock of the world.Matrix wrote:
im arguing with a bunch of teenagers who cant vote.(including myself)
Also, fucking speak for yourself, I can vote.[/quote]
I agree with mahogany on the fact that the US is a laughing stock at this point for the same reason.
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I love how in CURRENT YEAR race doesn't have to be a basis for being racistRoseusJaeger wrote:
If we were to get technically, that would be racist.Khelly wrote:
So if I think taiko players are all smelly is that racist or did you forget racist has to deal with race as a basis?
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I hate my country for being the piece of crap that it is and I don't have the money to leave it.Matrix wrote:
"your country" you are in it too buddy.
you are actually getting really annoying, im going to ignore every post you make. like seriously, why are you trying to join this argument?
People like you irritate me because you're one of the reasons our country sucks.
I wanna move to England
Since never, I can vote in my own country's elections.Khelly wrote:
Tooth since when you could vote in american elections?
Not in france, I can vote fine, thanks. Do you seriously think this is a french flag? Have you gone to school at all? How am I supposed to take you seriously like this?Matrix wrote:
you are in france, good luck voting.
Nah, because despite what they seem to tell you, not every muslim is an extremist suicide bomber, friend. I agree that the extremists must be kept out or eliminated in some way, but putting a blanket ban on immigration from these countries is really fucking stupid, because there are plenty of individuals who would integrate fine, and it's going to do nothing but fuck up the US's relations with other countries irreparably.Matrix wrote:
you still ignored what i said about religion, the terrorism isnt the problem.
the religion itself believes in killing gays(which is only one of many terrible things).
if you bring in a bunch of people who are for a certain religion, your laws will start to change. eventually you will start seeing sharia law.
you are still being pretty ignorant.
"Ugh your points make sense and I can't refute them, just gonna insult you instead"Matrix wrote:
you are actually getting really annoying, im going to ignore every post you make. like seriously, why are you trying to join this argument?
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Why would something not based on race fit the definition for racistRoseusJaeger wrote:
We're talking about definition wise but otherwise, I wouldn't consider it racist.Khelly wrote:
I love how in CURRENT YEAR race doesn't have to be a basis for being racist
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