This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, September 02, 2018 at 2:00:37 PM

Artist: supercell
Title: Sayonara Memories
Tags: Today is a Beautiful Day J-Pop Japanese やなぎなぎ Ryo Yanagi Nagi zeroallies
BPM: 80.25
Filesize: 10129kb
Play Time: 05:54
Difficulties Available:

1. My Love Story (5.12 stars, 1203 notes)

Download: supercell - Sayonara Memories
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Fourth Beatmap
First Ranked

The jump near the end seems a little excessive in terms of the distance, other than that I found it really fun.

SugarDaddy wrote:

The jump near the end seems a little excessive in terms of the distance, other than that I found it really fun.

Thanks a lot! Just so you know I'll fixing it the part of 01:47:439 and 01:59:439. It would be appreciate If you spread my beatmap to the world! c:

Hi here's a thing :v



Hope this helps. Good luck

Side wrote:

Hi here's a thing :v

SPOILER

[Adios]

Make sure to fix this lol Done

00:00:593 (1,2,3,4,1) - I think this could use some movement somehow. For example (1,2) plays one piano chord and (3,4) plays another so maybe you can move 3 and 4 to x:413 y:255 so it follows the piano better Done


00:11:047 (3) - This pointing up would be better imo for this quiet part. Done

00:15:273 (1,2,1,1) - Small suggestion but I think these would be better if they weren't all stacked in the same spot to follow the piano like in the first part. Maybe moving 00:15:273 (1,2) - to x:415 y:207 and 00:16:939 (1,1) - to x:302 y:250 and those notes stacked would be nice Done

00:20:439 (1) - It would be cool if you did a nice spinner volume effect by adding some volume timing points to the part at 00:21:939 - to match that audio chopping effect it gives. If you need help with that you can pm me I'll explain it better help me..

00:23:064 (1) - Somehow I feel if these were two notes with a jump instead it would be fun to play Done

00:23:814 (2,1) - So I think this could be a small problem because (1) it has pretty similar spacing to the other notes except the other notes are 1/2 and this is 1/1 so it could be misread. More importantly 00:24:001 - 00:24:376 - if you listen to how the piano plays it holds this piano note so I think what you can do instead here is make this a 1/1 slider so I suggest this pattern. Here I deleted 00:23:814 (2) - and made 00:23:439 (1) - a 1/2 reverse slider then added a 1/1 slider at 00:24:001 - so it plays better to the music. Highly suggest this btw yesss

00:24:939 - 00:25:689 - I see what you're mapping to ofc though these sounds could also be mapped I feel. Otherwise I think mapping it like you did at 00:27:001 (7,1) - is better because it still follows the piano better Done

00:34:689 (2) - Stack over 00:33:751 (1) - It's better Done

00:36:189 (3) - Moving this down plays better coming from (2) like this. Then after maybe stack 00:36:751 (4) - over the slider end of (3) or you can have it behind the slider still that works Done

00:40:314 (2) - I think this would be cool too if it was at x:362 y:347 its a nice jump from the slider and to the next slider adds emphasis Done

00:40:689 (4) - Might wanna NC this but also would suggest that instead of a 1/4 slider this were two 1/4 notes. ok

00:40:876 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Also if I can suggest doing a bit of a shapely stream. Here's a small suggestion screenshot (I rotated 00:40:501 (3) - slightly as well) Done

00:41:439 - Here I think the BPM will change again cuz its sounds a bit slower compared to the music. Might wanna ask pishifat to help you with the timing i did tell pishifat, he said, he need bn for his map before timing

00:55:501 (2,3,4) - It'd probably make a better tapping rhythm if instead you did this rhythm. That way you can start the jumps on the white tick at 00:56:439 - Done

00:59:439 (1) - Also would be nice if you stacked this over 00:59:063 (2) - like you did at 00:34:876 (3,1) - something like this maybe ur right

01:03:189 (3,4) - This would be better as two 1/2 sliders or first a 1/2 slider and two notes. Like 01:02:439 (1) - This ones good as a 1/1 slider cuz it follows the vocals but 01:03:189 (3) ignores 01:02:626 - the guitar here this way. Done

01:04:314 (2) - ctrl+g would be cool nice

01:11:439 - 01:14:064 - This feels pretty quiet as 1/1. I think sticking to 1/2 rhythm is better here since the guitar is the only thing playing and is playing in 1/2. added 1/2 slider

01:17:251 - This is fine the way you have it too but if you want you can also add a jump here as well.

01:17:439 (1,2) - For this one I feel (1) would be better as a 1/1 slider to follow the vocals and a note at 01:18:001 - kinda like how you did it at 01:20:439 (1,2,3) - . Maybe do something like this (messy example lol) its good not messy

01:21:189 (3,4) - Small suggestion but I think if this was a 1/2 slider it'd be nicer to play. Not a big deal though. Done

01:29:064 (4) - Similarly if this was two notes instead it would also be funner to play like a jump added 2 notes

01:40:689 (1,2,3,4) - This is nice but maybe it can be spaced out a bit more. nah this is good like monster by reol

01:41:439 - The jumps in the section are fun but I think they build up way too fast lol

01:43:501 (1,2) - I think instead of leaving that empty pause in between these you can make them 1/2 sliders which play the same as single tapping 1/1 but feel less empty because the slider end fills the space in between. Same for 01:55:501 (1,2) - and 01:58:501 (1,2) -

01:53:064 - 01:53:251 - Should really consider some notes here to follow the rhythm of the drums Added 1/2 slider

02:02:439 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Here normally because of how intesnse the drums are this is where I would kind of expect the bigger jumps and stuff to happen. i choose multiplier x1 and 02:03:001 1/2 slider cuz of drum

02:26:251 - Consider a note here. Feels pretty empty. Otherwise you should stack 02:26:439 (1) - over 02:26:064 (6) - so it plays better as a pause. no triangle is bezt

02:39:189 (3) - Change to a 1/2 slider and a note so it plays nicer and better emphasizes the music better~

02:39:751 (4,1) - here she does like a triple sound too so if you change the above you can do something like this meh ok

03:19:501 (1,2) - Same suggestion as 01:43:501 (1,2) - Change these to 1/2 sliders so it can better follow the music and same for 03:31:501 (1,2) -

03:47:439 - This is nice but so that it's not so repetitive you can stack them in pairs of 4 so like 03:50:439 (1,1,1,1) - move these then also move 03:53:439 (1,1,1,1) - these etc. lol okay

04:02:064 (5) - Remove the repeat and instead add a note at 04:02:439 - would better emphasize that white tick you're right

04:18:751 (1,2,3) - The jump on these could be a bit bigger imo Reducing..

05:03:169 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - LOL and again the jump intensity just super spikes like this. No need for these to be so huge tbh for me this is the best part of sayonara memories

05:47:606 (2) - I think this would be better if it was more rotated like this ok


I think the jumps in the kiais spike the star rating a lot tbh. I'd suggest nerfing them for the most part since they don't fit with the overall difficulty of the map. Also might wanna look for someone to doublecheck the timing. And hitsound this maaaaan

Hope this helps. Good luck

Thank for the BIG mods! i hope one day, it will be ranked <3

Hi. I will be lazy in formatting so please don't mind it.
Also, this mod will most likely be just nazi.


obligatory "from #modreqs" myasslol

General

1. Add to Title: さよならメモリーズ
2. Move "Sayonara Memories" to Romanized Title
3. Add to tags: やなぎなぎ
4. Turn Widescreen Support off.
5. Use colors? lol
6. Make sure of the BPMs. Multi-bpm maps are scary loljk

Goodbye

1. 00:34:860 (3,1) - How this overlaps with 00:33:735 (1) - doesn't really look good. Move them down a little bit or change the yellow slider to make it look less curvy or something.
2. 00:45:525 (2) -Move to 296|104. Looks better that way.
3. 00:46:650 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This slider looks shaky. Might be just me. You could remake it using a slider.
4. 00:54:923 (1,3) - Overlaps don't look good here, unless if I recognize them as a style.
5. 01:03:912 (1) - CTRL+G kinda flows better IMO. Take this with a grain of salt.
6. 01:56:224 (1,2,3) - This can throw a lot of players off. I'd suggest just moving 01:56:412 (2) - to 256|96 so it's not as confusing.
7. 02:21:162 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I honestly feel like this part is suited for jumps similar to 02:03:912 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - . Might as well making this part similar to that one.
8. 02:37:289 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - Haha this part looks weird compared to the rest of the map. Not that it plays bad, it seems just like it's not part of the map style. You can keep this if you want diversity kekekekekekeke
9. 02:50:039 (5,6,1) - This is a definitely weird looking triple (?). Not to mention there's nothing like it within the map.
10. 02:57:914 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Make these completely straight lmao. #ocdisreal
11. 03:14:976 (1,2) - CTRL+G these two (yes both of them) and just move the hitsound. This sounds better.
12. 03:15:539 (1,2) - ^
13. 03:35:414 (1,3) - Overlap
14. 03:39:539 (5,1) - Overlap
15. 03:41:414 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Make these completely straight as well. :c
16. 03:44:601 (2,3,4,1) - Make these start on a white tick instead. Move them by 1/4 to the left. Then move 03:44:414 (1) - 03:45:914. This way it sounds better and plays better. AND SOUNDS MORE NATURAL.
17. 04:02:397 (1,2,3) - Uneven spacing here. lol
18. 04:07:631 (1,2,3) - Make these go straight instead of kinda curved.
19. 04:29:410 (3) - Make this a bit farther since the bpm did change. Players will get thrown off if it's so close to the previous object.
20. 04:59:211 (1) - Just change this into 2 circles lmao.

The map plays well, looks well. Just needs more polishing here and there.
Good luck! ^^

Mira-san wrote:

Hi. I will be lazy in formatting so please don't mind it.
Also, this mod will most likely be just nazi.


obligatory "from #modreqs" myasslol

General

1. Add to Title: さよならメモリーズ
2. Move "Sayonara Memories" to Romanized Title
3. Add to tags: やなぎなぎ
4. Turn Widescreen Support off.
5. Use colors? lol ^All fixed
6. Make sure of the BPMs. Multi-bpm maps are scary loljk this is like kimi no shiranai monogatari (monstrata) soo no differents

Goodbye

1. 00:34:860 (3,1) - How this overlaps with 00:33:735 (1) - doesn't really look good. Move them down a little bit or change the yellow slider to make it look less curvy or something. leme remap this..
2. 00:45:525 (2) -Move to 296|104. Looks better that way. Fixed
3. 00:46:650 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This slider looks shaky. Might be just me. You could remake it using a slider. new stream? i think this is better now..
4. 00:54:923 (1,3) - Overlaps don't look good here, unless if I recognize them as a style. New Patterns
5. 01:03:912 (1) - CTRL+G kinda flows better IMO. Take this with a grain of salt. Fliping
6. 01:56:224 (1,2,3) - This can throw a lot of players off. I'd suggest just moving 01:56:412 (2) - to 256|96 so it's not as confusing. Oh yes~
7. 02:21:162 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I honestly feel like this part is suited for jumps similar to 02:03:912 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - . Might as well making this part similar to that one.
8. 02:37:289 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - Haha this part looks weird compared to the rest of the map. Not that it plays bad, it seems just like it's not part of the map style. You can keep this if you want diversity kekekekekekeke
9. 02:50:039 (5,6,1) - This is a definitely weird looking triple (?). Not to mention there's nothing like it within the map. Fixed
10. 02:57:914 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Make these completely straight lmao. #ocdisreal lmao
11. 03:14:976 (1,2) - CTRL+G these two (yes both of them) and just move the hitsound. This sounds better.
12. 03:15:539 (1,2) - ^
13. 03:35:414 (1,3) - Overlap This should be overlap
14. 03:39:539 (5,1) - Overlap Fixed
15. 03:41:414 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Make these completely straight as well. :c hehe ill keeps this as well
16. 03:44:601 (2,3,4,1) - Make these start on a white tick instead. Move them by 1/4 to the left. Then move 03:44:414 (1) - 03:45:914. This way it sounds better and plays better. AND SOUNDS MORE NATURAL. okay..
17. 04:02:397 (1,2,3) - Uneven spacing here. lol Fixed
18. 04:07:631 (1,2,3) - Make these go straight instead of kinda curved. Fixed
19. 04:29:410 (3) - Make this a bit farther since the bpm did change. Players will get thrown off if it's so close to the previous object. Fixed
20. 04:59:211 (1) - Just change this into 2 circles lmao.

The map plays well, looks well. Just needs more polishing here and there.
Good luck! ^^

WTF NO ISSUE WITH 05:02:399 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ?!?!?! Oh yes~ DEFINITELY GOING RANKED

Thanks for "few" changes! I need more modding~

Slapping a Star :3
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-Nitrous wrote:

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Thanks for the "Slapping s Star"! <3

hi, modding as requested

[Goodbye]
00:26:423 (5) - should be nc'ed for downbeat
00:39:733 (4,1,2) - such high ds at 00:38:796 (2,3,4) - and then super low ds here. u should increase it
00:41:962 (4,1) - swap ncs and put an nc every 3 notes to emphasise the finish
00:44:306 (7) - lower this note to make a nice curve. or you can use slider to stream tool
00:53:048 (4) - missing clap
01:07:099 (2,3,4,5) - ctrl g the rhythm. follows vocals better. http://puu.sh/pjUxD/4612fa266e.jpg
01:12:912 (1,2) - u should make this 1/2 rhythm. very empty to play 1/1
01:26:412 (1,2) - ctrl g rhythm
01:37:662 - this is an important vocal note. should be clickable. u can make 01:37:287 (2) - a 1/2 slider
01:38:974 (3,4) - ctrl g rhythm
01:39:724 (6) - make this 2 circles so downbeat can be clicked
01:42:537 (3) - nc every 2 beats like u did for 01:41:787 (1)
01:44:037 (5,6) - i don't think its good to stack in kiai time. maybe its ur style but i find it ruins flow
01:46:474 (1) - remember to be consistent with ur nc's. here you did a nc but didn't here 01:44:974 (4) - or here 01:45:724 (4) -
01:56:224 (1,2) - swap nc
02:02:224 (5,1) - stacking like this is ok because it leads to downbeat
02:08:412 (3) - nc
03:04:101 (2,3,4) - make a better triangle
03:20:976 (5) - consistencies with nc
03:30:726 (4,5) - should be the biggest jump since its downbeat so u should lower the ds of 03:30:914 (5,6) -
03:32:789 (7,1) - swap nc
03:33:726 (1,2) - ^
04:09:522 - the finish should be a clickable object
04:12:897 - downbeat ^
04:15:709 (1,2) - swap nc
04:34:647 (1) - nc
04:57:518 (1,3) - swap nc
04:58:461 (1) - remove nc
05:03:149 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - wtf xd
05:14:399 (1,4) - stack
05:27:149 (3,1) - ^
05:41:626 (2,4) - overlap more
05:51:985 - strong downbeat should be clickable
05:54:908 (1) - is this spinner not snapped at the end on purpose?

anyways. theres still a bit of work to do with nc's in kiai time. i didn't point all of them out. basically just make sure it's consistent with other combos and makes sense. ok thats all, nice song and mapset! gl

Pentori wrote:

hi, modding as requested

[Goodbye]
00:26:423 (5) - should be nc'ed for downbeat Fixed
00:39:733 (4,1,2) - such high ds at 00:38:796 (2,3,4) - and then super low ds here. u should increase it New Patterns
00:41:962 (4,1) - swap ncs and put an nc every 3 notes to emphasise the finish Fixed
00:44:306 (7) - lower this note to make a nice curve. or you can use slider to stream tool ikd and I just need to lower the circle and slider only
00:53:048 (4) - missing clap Fixed
01:07:099 (2,3,4,5) - ctrl g the rhythm. follows vocals better. http://puu.sh/pjUxD/4612fa266e.jpg
01:12:912 (1,2) - u should make this 1/2 rhythm. very empty to play 1/1
01:26:412 (1,2) - ctrl g rhythm Fixed
01:37:662 - this is an important vocal note. should be clickable. u can make 01:37:287 (2) - a 1/2 slider I used
01:38:974 (3,4) - ctrl g rhythm Fixed
01:39:724 (6) - make this 2 circles so downbeat can be clicked
01:42:537 (3) - nc every 2 beats like u did for 01:41:787 (1) the vocal force 01:41:787 (1) - so 01:42:162 (1,2,3,4) - at this point theres no need to nc
01:44:037 (5,6) - i don't think its good to stack in kiai time. maybe its ur style but i find it ruins flow Fixed
01:46:474 (1) - remember to be consistent with ur nc's. here you did a nc but didn't here 01:44:974 (4) - or here 01:45:724 (4) -
01:56:224 (1,2) - swap nc Fixed
02:02:224 (5,1) - stacking like this is ok because it leads to downbeat Fixed
02:08:412 (3) - nc
03:04:101 (2,3,4) - make a better triangle Fixed
03:20:976 (5) - consistencies with nc 03:21:164 (1) - it start the vocal here
03:30:726 (4,5) - should be the biggest jump since its downbeat so u should lower the ds of 03:30:914 (5,6) -
03:32:789 (7,1) - swap nc same
03:33:726 (1,2) - ^ Fixed
04:09:522 - the finish should be a clickable object 04:09:522 (4) - vocal is holding
04:12:897 - downbeat ^ Fixed
04:15:709 (1,2) - swap nc
04:34:647 (1) - nc now its weird lol
04:57:518 (1,3) - swap nc
04:58:461 (1) - remove nc
05:03:149 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - wtf xd LMAO
05:14:399 (1,4) - stack Fixed
05:27:149 (3,1) - ^ Fixed
05:41:626 (2,4) - overlap more Fixed
05:51:985 - strong downbeat should be clickable
05:54:908 (1) - is this spinner not snapped at the end on purpose? Yeah, thats why i add timing section

anyways. theres still a bit of work to do with nc's in kiai time. i didn't point all of them out. basically just make sure it's consistent with other combos and makes sense. ok thats all, nice song and mapset! gl

Thanks for the mods!!

M4M, Not From my Weekend Modding Queue (im trying to promote stuff here .-. /runs)


There's my mod, good luck

eclipselotus wrote:

M4M, Not From my Weekend Modding Queue (im trying to promote stuff here .-. /runs)

In Indonesian/Bahasa This Mean "Selamat Tinggal"

I hate to say goodbye:
• 00:04:532 - since the vocal goes saku~yo, you need to place note here Fixed
• 00:17:421 (2) - same ds with all previous overlap notes feel better
• 00:28:110 (3) - straight slider is fine Okay
• 00:33:735 (1) - blanket last (4) Fixed
• 00:36:921 (1) - rotate 28* and blanket last (2), if you do this i prefer copy it, mirror, and replace current (2) nag I think this is good
• 00:41:775 (3,4) - ctrl+g, sice the slider coming reverse clock (2,3) fell not right Fixed
• 00:42:150 (1,2) - if you apply ^ and feel (4,1) is too close just do same thing, ctrl+g Fixed
• 00:45:150 (1) - curve instead I keep
• 00:45:900 (1) - add same amount of left curve as last (1)
• 00:50:423 (1) - the vocal goes ta~, so this slider need a curve
• 01:00:912 (3) - does this angle really neccesary? idk ._.
• 01:09:537 (4) - mirror (3) instead
• 01:12:912 (5,6) - this feel not fit with the song, prefer change it to 1/1 slider and add a note after
• 01:28:662 (3) - overlap?
• 01:29:037 (4,5) - ctrl+g
• 01:38:412 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i prefer this http://puu.sh/pzmd0/4d303ec5a8.jpg Fixed
• 01:47:412 (1,2,3) - i feel not really conf with all going down slider, at least make one of (2) or (3) going up
• 01:58:099 (2) - same overlap as 01:57:162 (1) - will feel better Fixed
• 02:02:318 - missing note Fixed
• 02:26:412 (1) - perfect this blanket Fixed
• 02:42:539 (5) - mirror next (5) curve Fixed
• 02:44:414 (1) - i dont see what the angle stands for, middle curve instead
• 02:47:414 (1) - ^
• 03:02:414 (1) - ^ k
• 03:04:101 (2,4) - ctrl+g, then overlap (1) with next (1) Fixed and new patterns
• 03:05:039 (3) - add light up curve
• 03:13:289 (2) - move the end slider to x304 y240 its right
• 03:21:726 (4,1) - too extreme imo
• 03:32:039 (5) - this overlap wont works Fixed
• 03:43:664 (5) - add light down curve and overlap (6) with (4) instead nah, i just added timing points x1`
• 03:47:414 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - do new overlaps each of NC, will make more sense
• 04:29:022 (2) - overlap Fixed
• 04:41:397 (1) - perfect the blanket Fixed
• 04:45:897 (1) - blanket Fixed
• 05:03:149 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - i love this OH YES <33333
• 05:15:149 (3) - perfect the blanket Fixed
• 05:30:899 (1,2,3) - feel better when it goes left-right-left Fixed
• 05:36:524 (1,2,3) - i really hope you continue the stream here with higher ds, i mean i want more stream >,<// lol its "Insane" map and supercell dont hav streams .__.
• 05:42:189 (5) - blanket Fixed
• 05:43:876 (4,5) - ctrl+g, why making easy one here? Fixed

There's my mod, good luck

Thanks for ur Modding! 2kd <3 and a STAR ofcourse!

from #modreqs

first of all, overall this is pretty well done and fun to play, the only things that really bother me are that some of the jumps feel really overspaced and a bit of overmap. therefore i'll be making one section for spacing stuff that annoys me, one for overmap and one for other stuff.

Hello o/

00:26:985 (3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - Not bad, but a bit boring imo.
01:14:412 (1,2) - blanket?
01:22:474 (1,2,3,4) - The spacing here just looks really weird to me. Too small.
01:28:287 (2) - this could be converted into two jumps imo
01:28:662 (3) - ^
01:42:912 (1,2,3) - It’s not a good choice to use large distance spaces. I’d prefer spaces less
04:36:897 (2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1) - best part imo xDD
05:02:586 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - OH MY GOD, KILLER. This spacing is REALY overkil. OVERMAP

good luck~

Zhuriel wrote:

from #modreqs

first of all, overall this is pretty well done and fun to play, the only things that really bother me are that some of the jumps feel really overspaced and a bit of overmap. therefore i'll be making one section for spacing stuff that annoys me, one for overmap and one for other stuff.

Spacing

1. 01:29:412 - 01:35:412 - the spacing increase in this section feels too much, especially since the spacing then is much lower in the musically more intense part right after Dude its Insane, i do more intense patterns xd
2. 01:35:412 - 03:11:414 - same for this section
3. 03:18:914 (1,2,3) - 03:21:914 (1,2,3) - 03:30:914 (5,6,7) - 03:32:976 (1,2,3) - these all feel overspaced, they aren't really any particularly emphasized pattern in the music (that would be 03:38:414 - 03:41:414 - in this section IMO where you use a lot lower spacing) and aren't consistent with each other - 03:32:976 (1,2,3) - is on a different part in the pattern to all the others This is normal spacious.
4. 04:07:631 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - here you have a sudden drop in spacing despite the music keeping up the intensity Yeah, from small to big cuz of the vocals ah~. then theres the other music makes sounds louder, so small to big
5. 04:32:397 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i would keep this stream spacing at least the same as the previous stream or use a higher spacing since the music gets more intense here
6. 05:03:149 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is over twice the spacing of the next most spaced jump section, really? it's not even a particularily intense part that needs to be emphasized, and just removing this combo reduces the star rating of the map by 0.3 can u map?

Overmap

1. 00:40:952 (7,8,9,10,11) - i don't hear anything for a stream to be mapped to here, only the triple before
2. 00:43:837 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - i don't hear anything for a stream to be mapped to here
3. 01:47:318 (6) - i don't hear a note here
4. 01:59:318 (7) - i don't hear a note here
5. 02:19:849 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - i don't hear anything for this stream to be mapped to
6. 02:50:320 (6) - i don't hear a note here
7. 03:12:820 (6) - i don't hear a note here
8. 03:22:945 (5,6,7,8,9) - i don't hear anything for a stream to be mapped to, only the triple before
9. 04:17:209 (5,6,1) - i don't hear anything for a triple to be mapped to here
   05:43:970 (8,9,10,11,12) - i don't hear anything for a stream to be mapped to, only the triple before

General

1. i'd recommend reducing stack leniency a bit, you have some overlap patterns that look a bit awkward due to stacking imo such as 00:33:735 (1,2) - 01:22:474 (1,3) - 04:24:147 (4,2) -
2. 00:20:421 (1) - i really like the spinner hitsounding here idk, it sound better cuz the music start goes up so its good if you dont hitsound.
3. 01:21:912 (1,1,3) - this overlap looks really messy, consider overlapping these fully or moving them apart
4. 01:23:787 (2) - move this to overlap the start with 01:23:037 (3) - or so that it stacks in the same direction as 01:22:474 (1,3) -
5. 03:30:914 (5) - think you forgot an NC here

SherryCherry wrote:

Hello o/

00:26:985 (3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - Not bad, but a bit boring imo. =v= give me patterns...
01:14:412 (1,2) - blanket? Fixed
01:22:474 (1,2,3,4) - The spacing here just looks really weird to me. Too small. Fixed
01:28:287 (2) - this could be converted into two jumps imo I'll keep this since its
"insane"
01:28:662 (3) - ^
01:42:912 (1,2,3) - It’s not a good choice to use large distance spaces. I’d prefer spaces less moved (1)
04:36:897 (2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1) - best part imo xDD LMAO!
05:02:586 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - OH MY GOD, KILLER. This spacing is REALY overkil. OVERMAP I get that alot but someday ill remove it c: // or no ._.

good luck~

Zhuriel: You can be a Great Modder someday
SherryCherry: Yeah great mod you given me nicely done
Sorry everyone ;-;
Thanks for the Mods!~

while yes i know this is supposed to be an extra with pp jumps and all that but consider toning down 05:02:399 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - a bit or at least make the first two triangles smaller.. no actually consider toning them all down a bit... i was able to do the first 2 choruses just fine but this one i feel like i would've failed already if not for hp6... it could probably just be me but it felt rather forced

well as for the map as a whole there's nothing i can point out anyway w

_Meep_ wrote:

Ze Mods

00:04:907 (3) - Rotate this by -5 degrees cuz im OCD and idgaf <3
00:15:238 (1) - Play this at 25% and you'll realise it plays before she says anything
02:07:099 (1,2) - Looks unnatural,close up the distance
02:36:164 (3) - Move this 2 pixels to the left cuz im OCD <3
03:12:820 (6,1) - Move this 3 pixels up cuz Im OCD <3
03:14:226 (4) - Move this one pixel down because my OCD tells me its not right(seriously)
03:16:945 (6) - Move this one pixel up because my OCD tells me it's bad(seriously)
03:20:226 (1) - Consider placing this somewhere?
03:22:757 (3) - Move this one pixel down,then one to the right,because my OCD says so
03:48:914 (3,4,1,2,3) - These sound A BIT off,listen to them at 25% and they play pretty early as the piano is hit
03:59:414 (1) - Move this by 1 pixel cuz my OCD says so
04:34:740 (6) - Move this one pixel down cuz my OCD says so
05:15:899 (1) - Move this 4 pixels to the right cuz my OCD is boss
05:54:908 (1) - spinner should end 06:02:708 - i choose this because it ends the music

Sorry if this mod was very O C D

Applied all, Nice mod <3

domSaur wrote:

while yes i know this is supposed to be an extra with pp jumps and all that but consider toning down 05:02:399 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - a bit or at least make the first two triangles smaller.. no actually consider toning them all down a bit... i was able to do the first 2 choruses just fine but this one i feel like i would've failed already if not for hp6... it could probably just be me but it felt rather forced

well as for the map as a whole there's nothing i can point out anyway w

I just need to tell a pro/nominator, etc Players if this is okay or Reduce.
Thanks for your Information about that Part

05:03:149 - CHANGE IS GOOD. I see, many people it sucks at that part, so I need to remap this part. soo
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Goodbye...

[General]

1. i think the timing still has some problem, check it plz.

[Goodbye]

1. 00:25:298 (2,1) - make the spacing larger
2. 01:11:224 (6,1) - there is not enough time to response
3. 01:26:974 (2,3) - it looked messy, stack
4. 01:56:037 (5,6) - separate
5. 02:02:412 (1,2) - make the spacing larger
6. 02:06:349 (2,1) - stack
7. 02:07:474 (2,1,2) - make the spacing identical
8. 02:45:914 (1,3,4,5) - almost overlaped
9. 04:23:397 (1,2,3,4) - fix blanket and make the spacing identical
10. 04:26:022 (1,2,3) - ^
11. 05:08:399 (1) - finish

good luck and im noob...

Snow-- wrote:

[General]

1. i think the timing still has some problem, check it plz. its from here https://osu.ppy.sh/b/925724

[Goodbye]

1. 00:25:298 (2,1) - make the spacing larger Yeah its a slow part, and start of the song =v=
2. 01:11:224 (6,1) - there is not enough time to response
3. 01:26:974 (2,3) - it looked messy, stack Fixed
4. 01:56:037 (5,6) - separate Nahh I just stack
5. 02:02:412 (1,2) - make the spacing larger Fixed
6. 02:06:349 (2,1) - stack Fixed
7. 02:07:474 (2,1,2) - make the spacing identical Fixed ALL PATTERNS
8. 02:45:914 (1,3,4,5) - almost overlaped
9. 04:23:397 (1,2,3,4) - fix blanket and make the spacing identical Fixed
10. 04:26:022 (1,2,3) - ^
11. 05:08:399 (1) - finish Added

good luck and im noob...

ur just being negative ._. just be positive you'll be a great modder someday =v=
Thanks for the Mods!

IRC comments.

Sonnyc wrote:

IRC comments.

SPOILER

00:47 zeroallies: hey c:
00:48 Sonnyc: Hi
00:48 zeroallies: can i get a bn check?
00:49 Sonnyc: Not doing any BN checks atm, but I can drop you my opinions if you want
00:49 zeroallies: thanks~
00:49 *zeroallies is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/965487 supercell - Sayonara Memories]
00:55 Sonnyc: So I've took a look until 02:08:412 - so far
00:55 Sonnyc: Not a bad work, considering you've got no ranked works until now.
00:55 Sonnyc: I can see some pattern organizations you've intended
00:56 Sonnyc: 01:11:412 (1,2,3,4) - Thins like this felt good
00:56 Sonnyc: But the consecutive jumps in the kiai really felt bad compared to other parts
00:56 Sonnyc: simply because they aren't organized as a map.
00:57 Sonnyc: I could hardly feel any intentions were placed behind the placements to form a constructed pattern.
00:57 Sonnyc: 01:41:412 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Example would be this and anything similar.
00:58 Sonnyc: The idea of using a jump to bring playability could work good
00:58 Sonnyc: but you should deliver that playability along an organized pattern, more likely visuals, to get considered as a "quality".
00:59 Sonnyc: They kinda feel like randomly scattered objects in the screen, with a certain flow.
01:00 zeroallies: ill remap the kiai jump patterns?
01:00 Sonnyc: 00:48:173 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - 01:06:912 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:27:912 (1,2,3) - Some same shaped sliders worked fine
01:00 Sonnyc: I personally feel reworking the kiai jumps would work better
01:01 Sonnyc: So, this is a "not bad" from me, but I think you can make some further improvements on your mapping itself.
01:01 Sonnyc: The advice from me would be "distance snapping", which is one of the very basics of mapping.
01:02 Sonnyc: Although it might be not fitting to use a spacing concept in an expert difficulty, using such logic truly makes placement much more organized.
01:02 Sonnyc: 01:05:412 (1,2,3,4) - For example
01:03 Sonnyc: If you look at the heads
01:03 Sonnyc: you can see (1,3,4) is evenly spaced, while (1,2) is quite unbalanced compared to them.
01:04 Sonnyc: Adjusting your pattern to fit the spacing logic made the placement more organized. http://puu.sh/q9say/d008cd35e9.jpg

yeah the kiai part is okay imo =v=
yeah i remapped chorus

03:59:414 - Second BPM line is actually unecessary xD

This are unecessary too, since the volume , HS, and SV are the same lol.. but maybe im wrong (idk if the BPM change make a reset on SV)
(ofc NO KDS for this simple thing e_e)

Hi. This mod is my request on the mapper zeroallies.
I hope this helps!
supercell - Sayonara Memories

Goodbye:


Advices: (from a beginner ;_;)

1. Needs more patterns outside of chorus
2. The hitsounds of cookiezi's skin fits perfectly on this map
3. Don't often use short sliders

Love this map I hope this get ranked on the near future.
Good Luck~!

Lince Cosmico wrote:

03:59:414 - Second BPM line is actually unecessary xD

This are unecessary too, since the volume , HS, and SV are the same lol.. but maybe im wrong (idk if the BPM change make a reset on SV)
(ofc NO KDS for this simple thing e_e)

thanks for the bpm problems

ArtillerySenpai wrote:

Hi. This mod is my request on the mapper zeroallies.
I hope this helps!
supercell - Sayonara Memories

Goodbye:

00:14:022 (1) - Move it to 276|100 = it make destroyed the patterns :d

01:14:130 (6) - Make it to two circles it rhymes better = for this one is single tapping

01:57:912 (1,2,3) - Spacing is too far = Fixed, Remapped

02:03:537 (4,5,6,1,2) - Adjust the spacing (make it further away a little bit) = ok

02:26:318 (1) - Change the shape of the slider (make it straight) = the vocal was long so i put a long slider

02:41:882 (2) - Move it to 412|16 for a triangle pattern. It follows the map style. = it think is horrible triangle so i change the patterns

02:47:320 (7) - Make it two circles = nahh :c

02:57:632(1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I suggest do a zigzag pattern. = this is was a line, its like kimi no shiranai monstrata c:

03:44:265 (6) - Put it on 292|152 = simply say overlap on 1

04:23:397(1) - Move it to 176|92 = idk it put to the top eh :c

04:42:897(1) - CHANGE THE SHAPE. awkward slider = nien

05:01:461 - Random Kiai Time = deleted timing part

05:01:930 - Random Kiai Time

05:18:899(2) - Another awkward slider = wats up with the "awkward" slider btw?

Advices: (from a beginner ;_;) WAT

1. Needs more patterns outside of chorus
2. The hitsounds of cookiezi's skin fits perfectly on this map = yeah, i dont think its good
3. Don't often use short sliders

Love this map I hope this get ranked on the near future.
Good Luck~!

Thanks for the mod!

zeroallies wrote:

hahaha i just got denied

lol

I am mapping this too, we should do an m4m when I complete my set :^)

CaffeAmericano wrote:

I am mapping this too, we should do an m4m when I complete my set :^)

OH GOD

Hi. Randomly found this map and like the song, and I'm in the modding mood, so here's a free mod. Hope this helps.

00:11:594 (1) – For sliders like this one where the singer is very relaxed, try silencing the sliderslide by using a blank hitsound like this one: http://puu.sh/qwGCD/b52f232c3c.wav

00:23:423 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) – The spacing is pretty small here. I very much agree this is not a high energy section, but right now, the spacing is so low, it rivals at being as low energy as 00:05:855 (1) - . So I think for pacing reasons, you should try to increase the base DS of the map here, and/or add emphasize a few more notes with jump.

00:24:548 (4) – Talk to me about this rhythm since I think what you're doing now isn't as nice as my suggestion. Here is what I would use for this section: http://puu.sh/qwGRN/f21a245ad2.jpg

00:29:423 (1) – This is a strong note. Have you considered increasing the distance into this object?

00:32:048 (2,1) – Be careful of how you transition from one pattern to the next. The angle into the (1) slider doesn't feel as continuous as it could be, so try doing something like this http://puu.sh/qwI45/943c3bc128.jpg. This will smooth out your patterns, which improves your design, which imo will make it easier for you to get ranked.
00:54:548 (4,1) – Again, consider not having such sharp transitions and instead go for stuff like http://puu.sh/qwJ0W/2773b9abec.jpg. That's not to say that this technique can't be used, it just doesn't feel right in these instances when there's not much to emphasize with this technique.

00:33:173 (3,4,1,2) – There's a lot of things I want to talk about here:

1. 00:33:173 (3,1) – This overlerp doesn't look great and imo presents a design issue with the map. Additionally, (1)'s curvature doesn't match (3)'s curvature, which again doesn't make it look great. There's also an overlap on 00:32:798 (2,1) – which doesn't look great.
2. 00:33:735 (1,2) – This stack is a bit annoying imo because the slider hides it too much to the point where it's not visible (especially on Hidden).
3. This one is a lot more subjective, but I feel strongly about it. Observe that the previous combos starting at 00:29:798 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - had mostly counterclockwise flow. In the same way you use spacing to emphasize the note at 00:33:735 (1) - , you should also consider directional changes you could add to emphasize certain notes.
4. In conclusion, all of these things makes me want to change the 00:33:735 (1) – slider, so try something like this http://puu.sh/qwIkr/72c6e3ddf3.jpg . The problem with this is that there is not much room to work with, so the suggestion at 00:29:048 (6,1) – about increasing the distance could help to give this pattern more room.

00:38:233 (6,1) – What's the intention behind stacking these? Test out spacing these objects to emphasize the downbeat. One thing you can do is nerf the spacing at 00:38:046 (5,6) - to provide a little break if you feel that's necessary, so at the very least test out something like this: http://puu.sh/qwSpL/f0150d8a0d.jpg

00:47:423 (1) – I'm actually okay with this long pause, but I can see some people being upset that the note at 00:47:798 – isn't mapped. You could make this a 1/1 slider instead which hits the beat and keeps the map kind of calm. Again, I'm personally fine with either way, but I want to point this out for future reference.

00:50:423 (1,2,3,4) – I have a neat design suggestion, but it's a little complicated. I'd like to be able to talk to you and share screens over skype or discord or any video software of the sort, so talk to me when you have time.
--notes: (2) is flexible, (3,4) should be symmetrical, blanket (1,3) and (1,4), (1,2,3) should be triangle/structure.
Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHdhjecWYTc

01:00:537 (2,3) – I'd like to see this DS be increased since 1.2x is kind of small for what you're doing. However, you've got a lot of structural elements that aren't that flexible, so I can't exactly see an easy way to make this work. Pay attention to this while testing and see if you can find something that might work.

01:02:412 (1) – Consider your distance with what you've been doing. 01:00:912 (3,4) – is small, (4,5) is large, (4,6) is small, so to go with the pattern (6,1) should be large, which also helps to emphasize the downbeat here, so consider increasing the spacing into (1).

01:05:037 (6,1) – This flow and spacing is a little extreme, creating an overall unpleasant transition between patterns. Really consider chaning/adjusting one or both of these to set up a more natural flow here.

01:09:162 (3,1) – This overlap does not look good. I'm guessing there wasn't much thought about this overlap, but you should avoid random overlaps like this by just nudging it over a little
01:10:287 (3,5) – Same thing
01:15:912 (1,4) – I don't want to mention it anymore, so please check your map and fix all stuff like this.

01:27:912 (1,2,3) – This isn't perfect symmetry. Move (2) to 340, 96, and tell me why that is the best position for this slider.

01:29:412 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) – This is a lot of counterclockwise square flow. What does repeating this flow say about the music? Is it possible that using different flows can help emphasize certain downbeats or measures?

01:39:162 (4) – This note has some intensity on it, so I'd like to see a jump into this like: http://puu.sh/qwX8u/45941b5f8a.jpg . Also goes with the next suggestion

01:39:912 - There's some energy here in the music that's missed out on in the map, I think you should find a way to fill in rhythm with this. I don't think you're fond of the vocals, so try just going with the synthesizer with a long slider like maybe: http://puu.sh/qwXc3/29732856c0.jpg

01:48:162 (3,4,1) – Consider moving this way for (4) instead: http://puu.sh/qwWrb/a38c433373.jpg

01:49:849 (5,6,1,2,3,4) – There's a lot of forced flows in these notes. Especially the (3) note. There's not much going on here in the music, and the rapid change in direction given the context doesn't really sit right with me. Try being a bit calmer and smoother here by doing something like: http://puu.sh/qwY1R/d7943f4f6d.jpg . Also consider changing the hard drop off flow on 01:50:224 (6) – by stacking it on 01:50:787 (2) – 's slider end.

01:53:037 (6,1) – Move this so (1) stacks on (5): http://puu.sh/qwS8Q/6170086ef6.jpg

01:56:787 (3,1) – Okay, I realize I'm going to be a bit intrusive on your perspective with this suggestion. I can see exactly what you're going for by not having a note on 01:56:974 - , but I think you should consider a different rhythm/effect to achieve this goal. You see, having such a big pause here keeps me out of the rhythm of the music, so having something to fill the break feels like I'm more engaged with the music. So try having (3) be a ½ slider and make (1) be very close to the slider head to get the same kind of stopped motion by taking of the slider leniency like maybe: http://puu.sh/qwYdz/408b7c4465.jpg

02:07:849 (2) – You'll have more structure if you move this to 152,272 to be in line with 02:07:474 (2,1) -

02:09:162 – and 02:09:912 – it might be nicer to have circles on these strong notes rather than have a break, test it out.

02:21:912 (1,2,3,4,5,1) – Try adding a directional change on the first note of this combo by doing ctrl + H on all these notes: http://puu.sh/qwWF4/ba2e3e2cb8.jpg

Well this is a lot so far, so I'll let you digest this for now and edit this post when I finish the rest. Feel free to ask any questions in game, I'd be happy to help.

Edit: Part 2

00:16:963 (1,1) – Put these somewhere else like 256, 192 to give them a bit more emphasis

00:25:298 (2,1) – Some distances throughout the map are a little odd like this one, this could be a bit bigger to get the 1/1 rhythm across.

02:14:037 (5,6) – Consider not stacking these since the note at (6) is a little stronger/different 02:13:474 (3) - , which makes me want to use a different technique for a different sound in the music.

02:26:224 (8,1) – The angle between these guys is really sharp and doesn't flow well. Consider something like this: http://puu.sh/qys2B/c92ee4ef0a.jpg . The larger circle might be less aesthetic, but the slider movement follows directly the motion it takes to get there, which plays a lot nicer. Try doing something along these lines even if you have to move around some stuff. OH, like maybe stack the slider end on (7) like: http://puu.sh/qys6R/ffa08f22f8.jpg

02:31:099 (2,3,4) – This needs to be symmetrical with each slider. I'm gonna need a video to show you how, so if we can't do this in a skype or google hangout call, I could just post a video on youtube about it. -- Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWAWR6OYXsw
03:44:789 (2,3,4) – This one is closer, but could still be more perfect

02:50:320 (6) – This ¼ note doesn't make sense to me. Try deleting it.

02:50:414 (1,3) – Again, overlaps like this are not ideal

03:05:414 (1) – Same as what I said at 01:29:412 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) –

03:34:476 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) – Ahhh, I'm getting a little lazy here with my mod. Look at the angles between all these notes. They seem to be arbitrary angles. This means you don't have strong structure here, so it looks …. not ideal. But I don't want to fix it cuz I'm getting lazy, so find me in game and I'll try talking about it there.

03:48:164 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1) – You seem to want to make this section super super weak, and I'm perfectly okay with that, but why not delete all this and make it a break if you feel that it should be this restful?

04:17:397 (1) – Consider going with the piano instead of the drum here since I think that works a little better with what you have before this.

04:26:022 (1,2,1) – This is a good example of where structure can help you out. Move 04:26:772 (1) – to 122, 202. This makes these three highlighted notes equidistant, which generally has a better design, and the 04:26:209 (2,1) – is parallel with the (3) slider

04:27:897 (3) – This note is super strong! Try adding a jump into this and similar like 04:28:459 (2) - , and maybe these should be the start of the NC's, though I don't really care about NC's.

04:39:334 (1,2) – Consider stacking these or make them very close to go with how calm the music is.

05:05:024 (5,6,1) – The angles these make don't look great to me. Try rotating (1) by selection center by ~45: http://puu.sh/qyt0x/4a33a935ef.jpg

05:13:086 – There's this drum track here and elsewhere that is kind of strong. Imo, the vocals are not the focus of this section (though you do a good job of highlighting them where appropriate), and the drum really stands out here. Try going with a rhythm like this for this section: http://puu.sh/qyt7P/9f06704c31.jpg

Okay, so I talked a fair amount of design improvements, some rhythm suggestions, a little about smoother transitions/flows, and a slight bit about emphasizing certain notes with more appropriate DS. I'd like to get more subjective and talk about your pacing. I know you understand it pretty well. You made the strong kiai sections strong with big spacing at 03:17:414 (1) - , and you made the calm sections really slow with slow SV's and small pacing, and there are times where I feel the difficulty/intensity of the map is just right compared to the intensity of the song. However, there are quite a few places I feel aren't paced well. Consider 03:38:414 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - . This is the climax of the kiai section, and it has a strong emotional feeling in the music. However, when you compare it to patterns like 03:20:226 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) – the pattern during the climax doesn't feel very strong at all. This makes this section not as fun as it could be. Pacing is pretty challenging because it requires you to compare every note of the song and every beat in your map with every other note and every other beat, but I do think you should consider what parts should be strong and exactly how strong they should be a bit more. The more experience you get, the easier it will be. If you have any specific instance you want to get my opinion on, I'd be happy to talk to you about it, but I'll let you come to me instead of pointing more out.

Anyway, great song, I'm glad you mapped it. There were some pretty cool flows that I thought were on point, but overall the map feels like it has a lot more potential, so try getting more mods before asking for BN's. Best of luck!

Some notes to take

Offset problem

Note 80 bpm = 160 bpm ( such that if a 160 bpm song is mapped to only the white tick , it should be 80 bpm and vice versa ). <off point stuff idk and according to the ranking criteria (under timing ) : ''Uninherited timing sections cannot be used to manipulate slider speeds. These can be very unexpected for the player while also disrupting the main menu pulse and slightly changing the overall timing of the map. '' so its currently unrankable. (try playing the song from the start and listening to the pulse in the main menu and you would hear the difference. tldr : theres probably something wrong with your offsets and do not use multiple timing points.


There is also some overmapping such as 00:43:837 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - , there isnt a beat on the blue ticks (3) (5) (7)


A small but huge mistake that is affecting it from being rankable

and note if your going to copy from a map's offsets and other timing points , copy it from a ranked map.

pinataman wrote:

Hi. Randomly found this map and like the song, and I'm in the modding mood, so here's a free mod. Hope this helps.

00:11:594 (1) – For sliders like this one where the singer is very relaxed, try silencing the sliderslide by using a blank hitsound like this one: http://puu.sh/qwGCD/b52f232c3c.wav //

00:23:423 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) – The spacing is pretty small here. I very much agree this is not a high energy section, but right now, the spacing is so low, it rivals at being as low energy as 00:05:855 (1) - . So I think for pacing reasons, you should try to increase the base DS of the map here, and/or add emphasize a few more notes with jump. // ill "add emphasize a few more notes with jump". XD

00:24:548 (4) – Talk to me about this rhythm since I think what you're doing now isn't as nice as my suggestion. Here is what I would use for this section: http://puu.sh/qwGRN/f21a245ad2.jpg // yeah but this part is down (i meant to say the piano). but the last part hmm ill agree on 1/2, so changed

00:29:423 (1) – This is a strong note. Have you considered increasing the distance into this object? // changed into better patterns

00:32:048 (2,1) – Be careful of how you transition from one pattern to the next. The angle into the (1) slider doesn't feel as continuous as it could be, so try doing something like this http://puu.sh/qwI45/943c3bc128.jpg. This will smooth out your patterns, which improves your design, which imo will make it easier for you to get ranked. // changed ehh :d
00:54:548 (4,1) – Again, consider not having such sharp transitions and instead go for stuff like http://puu.sh/qwJ0W/2773b9abec.jpg. That's not to say that this technique can't be used, it just doesn't feel right in these instances when there's not much to emphasize with this technique. // fixed

00:33:173 (3,4,1,2) – There's a lot of things I want to talk about here: // Sorry Big Changes.

1. 00:33:173 (3,1) – This overlerp doesn't look great and imo presents a design issue with the map. Additionally, (1)'s curvature doesn't match (3)'s curvature, which again doesn't make it look great. There's also an overlap on 00:32:798 (2,1) – which doesn't look great. //
2. 00:33:735 (1,2) – This stack is a bit annoying imo because the slider hides it too much to the point where it's not visible (especially on Hidden). //
3. This one is a lot more subjective, but I feel strongly about it. Observe that the previous combos starting at 00:29:798 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - had mostly counterclockwise flow. In the same way you use spacing to emphasize the note at 00:33:735 (1) - , you should also consider directional changes you could add to emphasize certain notes. //
4. In conclusion, all of these things makes me want to change the 00:33:735 (1) – slider, so try something like this http://puu.sh/qwIkr/72c6e3ddf3.jpg . The problem with this is that there is not much room to work with, so the suggestion at 00:29:048 (6,1) – about increasing the distance could help to give this pattern more room. //

00:38:233 (6,1) – What's the intention behind stacking these? Test out spacing these objects to emphasize the downbeat. One thing you can do is nerf the spacing at 00:38:046 (5,6) - to provide a little break if you feel that's necessary, so at the very least test out something like this: http://puu.sh/qwSpL/f0150d8a0d.jpg //

00:47:423 (1) – I'm actually okay with this long pause, but I can see some people being upset that the note at 00:47:798 – isn't mapped. You could make this a 1/1 slider instead which hits the beat and keeps the map kind of calm. Again, I'm personally fine with either way, but I want to point this out for future reference. // its nice if you pause here becuase the flows

00:50:423 (1,2,3,4) – I have a neat design suggestion, but it's a little complicated. I'd like to be able to talk to you and share screens over skype or discord or any video software of the sort, so talk to me when you have time.
--notes: (2) is flexible, (3,4) should be symmetrical, blanket (1,3) and (1,4), (1,2,3) should be triangle/structure. // you hab skills thankss

01:00:537 (2,3) – I'd like to see this DS be increased since 1.2x is kind of small for what you're doing. However, you've got a lot of structural elements that aren't that flexible, so I can't exactly see an easy way to make this work. Pay attention to this while testing and see if you can find something that might work. // ...

01:02:412 (1) – Consider your distance with what you've been doing. 01:00:912 (3,4) – is small, (4,5) is large, (4,6) is small, so to go with the pattern (6,1) should be large, which also helps to emphasize the downbeat here, so consider increasing the spacing into (1). // i litterally out of patterns so, my weakness is change the whole patterns ...

01:05:037 (6,1) – This flow and spacing is a little extreme, creating an overall unpleasant transition between patterns. Really consider chaning/adjusting one or both of these to set up a more natural flow here. // i got this

01:09:162 (3,1) – This overlap does not look good. I'm guessing there wasn't much thought about this overlap, but you should avoid random overlaps like this by just nudging it over a little //
01:10:287 (3,5) – Same thing //
01:15:912 (1,4) – I don't want to mention it anymore, so please check your map and fix all stuff like this. //

01:27:912 (1,2,3) – This isn't perfect symmetry. Move (2) to 340, 96, and tell me why that is the best position for this slider. // ok den

01:29:412 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) – This is a lot of counterclockwise square flow. What does repeating this flow say about the music? Is it possible that using different flows can help emphasize certain downbeats or measures? // i dont sure what im saying, im following the beat of sayonara, also its quiet part so i 1/1 circles and counterclockwise. yeah it help emphasis? .____.

01:39:162 (4) – This note has some intensity on it, so I'd like to see a jump into this like: http://puu.sh/qwX8u/45941b5f8a.jpg . Also goes with the next suggestion // this guy.. is god. how to mod pls

01:39:912 - There's some energy here in the music that's missed out on in the map, I think you should find a way to fill in rhythm with this. I don't think you're fond of the vocals, so try just going with the synthesizer with a long slider like maybe: http://puu.sh/qwXc3/29732856c0.jpg // I just make stack on 1 makes better

01:48:162 (3,4,1) – Consider moving this way for (4) instead: http://puu.sh/qwWrb/a38c433373.jpg //

01:49:849 (5,6,1,2,3,4) – There's a lot of forced flows in these notes. Especially the (3) note. There's not much going on here in the music, and the rapid change in direction given the context doesn't really sit right with me. Try being a bit calmer and smoother here by doing something like: http://puu.sh/qwY1R/d7943f4f6d.jpg . Also consider changing the hard drop off flow on 01:50:224 (6) – by stacking it on 01:50:787 (2) – 's slider end. // I get this point, but your suggestion makes me hard to play it, i little bit change this part.

01:53:037 (6,1) – Move this so (1) stacks on (5): http://puu.sh/qwS8Q/6170086ef6.jpg //

01:56:787 (3,1) – Okay, I realize I'm going to be a bit intrusive on your perspective with this suggestion. I can see exactly what you're going for by not having a note on 01:56:974 - , but I think you should consider a different rhythm/effect to achieve this goal. You see, having such a big pause here keeps me out of the rhythm of the music, so having something to fill the break feels like I'm more engaged with the music. So try having (3) be a ½ slider and make (1) be very close to the slider head to get the same kind of stopped motion by taking of the slider leniency like maybe: http://puu.sh/qwYdz/408b7c4465.jpg // it destroyed the vocal, theres no needed to put a 1/2 slider in 01:56:787 - it turns out it follows the beats.

02:07:849 (2) – You'll have more structure if you move this to 152,272 to be in line with 02:07:474 (2,1) - // I tried using long sliders to measure this.. I still suck it :d

02:09:162 – and 02:09:912 – it might be nicer to have circles on these strong notes rather than have a break, test it out. // will see.

02:21:912 (1,2,3,4,5,1) – Try adding a directional change on the first note of this combo by doing ctrl + H on all these notes: http://puu.sh/qwWF4/ba2e3e2cb8.jpg // i didnt like the struc, because this patterns is circle

Well this is a lot so far, so I'll let you digest this for now and edit this post when I finish the rest. Feel free to ask any questions in game, I'd be happy to help.

Edit: Part 2

00:16:963 (1,1) – Put these somewhere else like 256, 192 to give them a bit more emphasis // sorry i dont get this

00:25:298 (2,1) – Some distances throughout the map are a little odd like this one, this could be a bit bigger to get the 1/1 rhythm across. //

02:14:037 (5,6) – Consider not stacking these since the note at (6) is a little stronger/different 02:13:474 (3) - , which makes me want to use a different technique for a different sound in the music. // this is just the high part beat and low part beat, so its the same XD

02:26:224 (8,1) – The angle between these guys is really sharp and doesn't flow well. Consider something like this: http://puu.sh/qys2B/c92ee4ef0a.jpg . The larger circle might be less aesthetic, but the slider movement follows directly the motion it takes to get there, which plays a lot nicer. Try doing something along these lines even if you have to move around some stuff. OH, like maybe stack the slider end on (7) like: http://puu.sh/qys6R/ffa08f22f8.jpg // hahaha sorry i only change the ds on 4

02:31:099 (2,3,4) – This needs to be symmetrical with each slider. I'm gonna need a video to show you how, so if we can't do this in a skype or google hangout call, I could just post a video on youtube about it. // dude youtube? youre insane .-. ill just add circle in the centre ez blanket XD
03:44:789 (2,3,4) – This one is closer, but could still be more perfect //

02:50:320 (6) – This ¼ note doesn't make sense to me. Try deleting it. // ill try deleting it

02:50:414 (1,3) – Again, overlaps like this are not ideal // edi wow XDDDD

03:05:414 (1) – Same as what I said at 01:29:412 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) – // same as what i said

03:34:476 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) – Ahhh, I'm getting a little lazy here with my mod. Look at the angles between all these notes. They seem to be arbitrary angles. This means you don't have strong structure here, so it looks …. not ideal. But I don't want to fix it cuz I'm getting lazy, so find me in game and I'll try talking about it there. // Well I change into 1/4

03:48:164 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1) – You seem to want to make this section super super weak, and I'm perfectly okay with that, but why not delete all this and make it a break if you feel that it should be this restful? // hmmm let me try deleting this part..

04:17:397 (1) – Consider going with the piano instead of the drum here since I think that works a little better with what you have before this. // it seems okay ill try

04:26:022 (1,2,1) – This is a good example of where structure can help you out. Move 04:26:772 (1) – to 122, 202. This makes these three highlighted notes equidistant, which generally has a better design, and the 04:26:209 (2,1) – is parallel with the (3) slider //

04:27:897 (3) – This note is super strong! Try adding a jump into this and similar like 04:28:459 (2) - , and maybe these should be the start of the NC's, though I don't really care about NC's. //

04:39:334 (1,2) – Consider stacking these or make them very close to go with how calm the music is. // k den

05:05:024 (5,6,1) – The angles these make don't look great to me. Try rotating (1) by selection center by ~45: http://puu.sh/qyt0x/4a33a935ef.jpg // its fine im aiming at 1 and 2 to make it "best" structure xd

05:13:086 – There's this drum track here and elsewhere that is kind of strong. Imo, the vocals are not the focus of this section (though you do a good job of highlighting them where appropriate), and the drum really stands out here. Try going with a rhythm like this for this section: http://puu.sh/qyt7P/9f06704c31.jpg // i only change the hitsounding into drum

Okay, so I talked a fair amount of design improvements, some rhythm suggestions, a little about smoother transitions/flows, and a slight bit about emphasizing certain notes with more appropriate DS. I'd like to get more subjective and talk about your pacing. I know you understand it pretty well. You made the strong kiai sections strong with big spacing at 03:17:414 (1) - , and you made the calm sections really slow with slow SV's and small pacing, and there are times where I feel the difficulty/intensity of the map is just right compared to the intensity of the song. However, there are quite a few places I feel aren't paced well. Consider 03:38:414 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - . This is the climax of the kiai section, and it has a strong emotional feeling in the music. However, when you compare it to patterns like 03:20:226 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) – the pattern during the climax doesn't feel very strong at all. This makes this section not as fun as it could be. Pacing is pretty challenging because it requires you to compare every note of the song and every beat in your map with every other note and every other beat, but I do think you should consider what parts should be strong and exactly how strong they should be a bit more. The more experience you get, the easier it will be. If you have any specific instance you want to get my opinion on, I'd be happy to talk to you about it, but I'll let you come to me instead of pointing more out. // *Still reading* XD

Anyway, great song, I'm glad you mapped it. There were some pretty cool flows that I thought were on point, but overall the map feels like it has a lot more potential, so try getting more mods before asking for BN's. Best of luck!

Thanks for the BIGG MODS!! (but 1 kds .-.)
can you help me find BN? Im bad at it

Ireiisu wrote:

Some notes to take

Offset problem

Note 80 bpm = 160 bpm ( such that if a 160 bpm song is mapped to only the white tick , it should be 80 bpm and vice versa ). <off point stuff idk and according to the ranking criteria (under timing ) : ''Uninherited timing sections cannot be used to manipulate slider speeds. These can be very unexpected for the player while also disrupting the main menu pulse and slightly changing the overall timing of the map. '' so its currently unrankable. (try playing the song from the start and listening to the pulse in the main menu and you would hear the difference. tldr : theres probably something wrong with your offsets and do not use multiple timing points. // ... watnaeormga idk. but they said its okay to have a multiple (x2; divide into 2) XD


There is also some overmapping such as 00:43:837 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - , there isnt a beat on the blue ticks (3) (5) (7) // i dont think so this is isnt overmapping and its in the beat.


A small but huge mistake that is affecting it from being rankable

and note if your going to copy from a map's offsets and other timing points , copy it from a ranked map. // I only see old rank in sayonara memories ehh .-.