Fresh Chicken wrote:

Where is Gekkou Ranbu

Also we can add some tags

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_Gezo_ wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/599g0nvdatbk1ex/Steins-20160611-053426.txt?dl=0 IRC log
(you can finally kd, do it on the main post please)

Nanatsu wrote:

should i give kudosu for you? idk lol (go away kudosu farmer)

1. 01:14:114 to 01:17:714 - LMAO look at Futsuu Muzu and Oni in the editor, they are so similar hahaha, not a complaint, just found it funny.

1. 00:00:764 (3) - k? LMAO immediate suggestion, just because it's a noticeably different sound from 00:01:064 (5,6,7) - these.
2. 01:39:839 or 01:40:289 - Add a note? Since from what I can tell from 01:37:514 (681,682,683,684,685,686,687) - 01:38:564 (692,693,694,695,696,697,698) - etc. you add 7 note patterns during the keyboard melodies.

1. 00:51:764 (200) - and 00:52:964 (210) - k? It would make them stand out a lot more because currently you're mapping as if all the kkds are the same sound.
2. 01:05:489 (85,86) - Delete these notes? Clearly this is the hardest part of the song, but being an Oni, this part goes on for a very long time without stopping and at this BPM that's pretty tough.
3. 02:13:064 (75) - Deleting this note does the same as above, but overall makes the distance of this part consistent with the size of patterns like 02:14:264 (83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91) - .
4. 02:17:414 - where don go....!?

1. The first part of the map isn't that dense, and if you compare this to Oni for the first parts you'll see what I mean. Try adding some more 1/2 or even some 1/4.
2. 01:12:914 (89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96) - Do something denser? Futsuu is pretty close to this.
3. 01:30:614 (58,59,60,61,62) - IT HURTS SEEING ONI COMPARED TO THIS.

1. 00:19:364 (53,54,55,56) - Change to kkkd starting on 00:19:514? Fits the music better.
2. 01:20:714 (4) - d?
3. 01:25:514 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29) - What is this following? The rhythm seems random with the kdd. Follow the guitar a little more?
4. 01:45:314 (13,14,15,16) - I don't recommend so many big notes in Futsuu. Use regular notes?
5. 01:51:314 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Same for these. 200 BPM big notes are scary to most new players.
6. 01:59:564 (2,3,4,5,6) - k d k k d? I I don't think all dons fits.
7. 02:01:514 (7,8,9) - k k? Fits the rhythm better.
8. 02:14:264 (29) - Delete this note? So many doubles is hard.
9. 02:18:614 - Add d? It makes Muzukashii spread better.

1. SV 1.2 would be nice considering the BPM.
2. 00:57:014 - Add k? It's super empty here.
3. 01:00:914 (7,8,9,10,11) - How about having this all be 2/1, then deleting 01:05:114 (12) - ? It seems random as it is now, with that 3 note island.
4. 01:22:214 - Add k, but delete 01:23:114 (6) - ? This maps to more of the melody while leading into the new part of the song better.
5. 01:59:114 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - This could fit the rhythm waaay better :p
6. 02:02:114 (1) - It'd be better to delete this to make an ACTUAL break before the kiai, since spinners don't count.
7. 02:21:314 (7,8,9) - Well... you tried XD (how would anyone fucking map that)

OzzyOzrock wrote:

[General]

1. 01:14:114 to 01:17:714 - LMAO look at Futsuu Muzu and Oni in the editor, they are so similar hahaha, not a complaint, just found it funny. LOL IKR

[Inner Oni]

1. 00:00:764 (3) - k? LMAO immediate suggestion, just because it's a noticeably different sound from 00:01:064 (5,6,7) - these.
   
   That was fine to accept lol
   
   
2. 01:39:839 or 01:40:289 - Add a note? Since from what I can tell from 01:37:514 (681,682,683,684,685,686,687) - 01:38:564 (692,693,694,695,696,697,698) - etc. you add 7 note patterns during the keyboard melodies.
   
   Added on 01:40:289 - !

[Oni]

1. 00:51:764 (200) - and 00:52:964 (210) - k? It would make them stand out a lot more because currently you're mapping as if all the kkds are the same sound.
   
   Pretty good!
   
   
2. 01:05:489 (85,86) - Delete these notes? Clearly this is the hardest part of the song, but being an Oni, this part goes on for a very long time without stopping and at this BPM that's pretty tough.
   
   Reasonable. But i think that i can remain 1/2 beatsnap as oni diff ._. so i didn't delete 01:05:564 (85) - this one
   
   
3. 02:13:064 (75) - Deleting this note does the same as above, but overall makes the distance of this part consistent with the size of patterns like 02:14:264 (83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91) - .
   
   Quite good, I love this suggestion.
   
   
4. 02:17:414 - where don go....!?
   
   aw no, I focused 3/4 beatsnap for this part. but call me again if you think it's really weird.

[Muzukashii]

1. The first part of the map isn't that dense, and if you compare this to Oni for the first parts you'll see what I mean. Try adding some more 1/2 or even some 1/4.
   
   welllllllll i don't think it's problem because.. it's just first part right? which means.. the beginning of difficulty, or pattern. it still can be easier imo. but it's just my opinion, i'll not impose about keeping here. but, i prefer to keep. or i rather want your more detail suggestion.
   
   
2. 01:12:914 (89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96) - Do something denser? Futsuu is pretty close to this.
   
   Added d on 01:13:964 - but call me again if it's not enough.
   
   
3. 01:30:614 (58,59,60,61,62) - IT HURTS SEEING ONI COMPARED TO THIS.
   
   hmm added 2-plots for 01:31:139 - 01:31:889 - here.

[Stein's Futsuu]

1. 00:19:364 (53,54,55,56) - Change to kkkd starting on 00:19:514? Fits the music better.
2. 01:20:714 (4) - d?
3. 01:25:514 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29) - What is this following? The rhythm seems random with the kdd. Follow the guitar a little more?
4. 01:45:314 (13,14,15,16) - I don't recommend so many big notes in Futsuu. Use regular notes?
5. 01:51:314 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Same for these. 200 BPM big notes are scary to most new players.
6. 01:59:564 (2,3,4,5,6) - k d k k d? I I don't think all dons fits.
7. 02:01:514 (7,8,9) - k k? Fits the rhythm better.
8. 02:14:264 (29) - Delete this note? So many doubles is hard.
9. 02:18:614 - Add d? It makes Muzukashii spread better.

[Kantan]

1. SV 1.2 would be nice considering the BPM.
   
   ok.
   
   
2. 00:57:014 - Add k? It's super empty here.
   
   oh sure
   
   
3. 01:00:914 (7,8,9,10,11) - How about having this all be 2/1, then deleting 01:05:114 (12) - ? It seems random as it is now, with that 3 note island.
   
   I'm sorry, but... what is 2/1?
   
   
4. 01:22:214 - Add k, but delete 01:23:114 (6) - ? This maps to more of the melody while leading into the new part of the song better.
   
   way better
   
   
5. 01:59:114 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - This could fit the rhythm waaay better :p
   
   hmm re-arranged
   
   
6. 02:02:114 (1) - It'd be better to delete this to make an ACTUAL break before the kiai, since spinners don't count.
   
   re-arranged here too
   
   
7. 02:21:314 (7,8,9) - Well... you tried XD (how would anyone fucking map that)
   
   aw moved 02:22:814 (8) - to 02:22:514 - here. still weird? @_@ probably should use spinner here too? i wanna your opinion..

OzzyOzrock wrote:

2/1 means the distance of 2 1/1s :p

Will re-check soon! Also the Oni break is probably gonna be needed >:I

OzzyOzrock wrote:

I mean deleting 01:05:564 (85) - since it's kind of hasty to have the player go from triplets to 5plets without some sort of break

OzzyOzrock wrote:

After some baby fixes... patterns are very nice and spread is fine and even throughout difficult spots of the map.

Qualified!

• [Kantan]

1. 00:51:914 (42) - you may delete this note not only for a better spread with Futsuu but also for a nice 4/1 rest moment, seeing that there is none from 00:28:514 to 01:04:514 -
2. 01:42:614 (41,42) - although 1/2 notes may be acceptable for Kantan, owing to the high song bpm, these notes are in fact quite hard. One possible solution is to move 01:42:764 (42) - to 01:42:314 - and change to d to cohere with the way you mapped at 01:44:714 (45,46) -
3. 01:43:814 (43,44) and 01:47:414 (50,51) - same as ^
4. 01:45:914 (48) - this note could be deleted for a 4/1 break. Currently the pattern chain is a way too consecutive from 01:32:114 to 02:02:114 -
5. 01:48:014 - adding k here would be good if you agree with my opinion above.

• [Stein's Futsuu]

1. 01:16:214 (54,55,56) - 1/2 K K D at 200bpm seems to be a bit demanding for Futsuu. 01:16:214 (54,55) - could be k so that the stressed sound at 01:16:514 (56) - could be more appropriately emphasized like you did at 01:15:014 (49,50,51) -
2. 02:16:814 (36,37) - this pattern sounds a bit weird as it does not represent the music well. I think 02:17:114 (37) - could just be deleted for a nice 2/1 break.

• [Inner Oni]

1. 02:23:714 (11) - the big note here sounds rather strange as the strong sound appears at 02:23:864 - . The best would be to change 02:23:714 (11) - to d, add D at 02:23:864 - and start the spinner at 02:24:014 -

1. SV could be 1.40
2. 00:37:514 (17) - This note could be moved to 00:37:814 - , like 00:33:014 -.
3. Added to Nardo's suggestion for 00:51:914 (42) - , 00:53:114 (44) - can be deleted too, to emphasize better the big notes.
4. 01:59:114 (6,7) - There seems to be a sudden layer change here, from bass to the synth, feeling a bit awkward. I'd suggest move 01:59:414 (7) - to 01:59:714 - , 02:01:214 (11) - to 02:00:914 - , and remove 02:00:614 (10) - , this would keep following the bass while focusing a bit on the synth too (resulting rhythm would be dkd d dkd).
   
5. How about adding notes in 02:21:764 - and 02:22:964 - (while moving 02:22:814 (8) - to 02:22:514 - ). This part is relatively quite compared with the song.

1. 00:01:364 (2,4) - I'd suggest to remove notes like this to keep a bit simple the map, considering Muzukashii has a very similar rhythm.
2. 01:26:714 (22,23) - Remove this notes and add a note in 01:27:014 - , it'd fit better the instrument you're following.
3. 01:27:614 (26,29) - Shouldn't these notes be removed to be consistent with 01:22:514 (9,10,11,12) - ?
4. 01:30:914 (36) - Move this to 01:30:614 - , to follow better the song.

1. 01:56:114 - 02:02:114 - This section could be a bit different, right now it looks too similar to the next kiai (if not the same), which isn't a bad thing, but I feel it makes the kiai have less emphasis as we're already spoiling it here. There are three ways to change this: making it less dense, making it more don heavy, or following the bass.

1. 01:50:114 (412) - There's a missing slidertick. Extend this by 1/16. Also, check your other sliders.
2. 01:56:114 - 02:02:114 - Same as Muzukashii

1. 01:56:114 - 02:02:114 - Here the density is lower than the kiai! This is what you should've done in Muzukashii and Oni.

_Gezo_ wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/599g0nvdatbk1ex/Steins-20160611-053426.txt?dl=0 IRC log
(you can finally kd, do it on the main post please)


EDIT: changed HP a bit. looks fine.

Nanatsu wrote:

Hmmmmm should i check nardo's mod too? o____o

i'd like to do but i'm not sureee..... if it will be problem to get re-qualified...

_Gezo_ wrote:

weee \:D/

tg steins

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Hello Nanatsu and Steins, I think there exist some issues that deserve your reconsideration regarding this set.

• [Kantan]

1. 00:51:914 (42) - you may delete this note not only for a better spread with Futsuu but also for a nice 4/1 rest moment, seeing that there is none from 00:28:514 to 01:04:514 -
   
   uhhmmm.... it was for consistency of 00:51:914 (42,44) - those part you know. probably you can check it from other diffs.
   
   so i want to keep for now, but call me again if you think it's really strange.
   
   EDIT : Changed from Dake's mod.
   
   
2. 01:42:614 (41,42) - although 1/2 notes may be acceptable for Kantan, owing to the high song bpm, these notes are in fact quite hard. One possible solution is to move 01:42:764 (42) - to 01:42:314 - and change to d to cohere with the way you mapped at 01:44:714 (45,46) -
3. 01:43:814 (43,44) and 01:47:414 (50,51) - same as ^
   
   Yep, That's Right! All done. Thanks a lot!
   
   
4. 01:45:914 (48) - this note could be deleted for a 4/1 break. Currently the pattern chain is a way too consecutive from 01:32:114 to 02:02:114 -
   
   Oh, To avoid repetitive, that would be fine then.
   
   
5. 01:48:014 - adding k here would be good if you agree with my opinion above.
   
   I prefer d, i'm usually using k for higher main rhythm of gott like 01:42:614 (42,44,46,48,50) - etc..

• [Stein's Futsuu]

1. 01:16:214 (54,55,56) - 1/2 K K D at 200bpm seems to be a bit demanding for Futsuu. 01:16:214 (54,55) - could be k so that the stressed sound at 01:16:514 (56) - could be more appropriately emphasized like you did at 01:15:014 (49,50,51) -
2. 02:16:814 (36,37) - this pattern sounds a bit weird as it does not represent the music well. I think 02:17:114 (37) - could just be deleted for a nice 2/1 break.

• [Inner Oni]

1. 02:23:714 (11) - the big note here sounds rather strange as the strong sound appears at 02:23:864 - . The best would be to change 02:23:714 (11) - to d, add D at 02:23:864 - and start the spinner at 02:24:014 -
   
   hmm then i'll put k on 02:23:639 - too to make stream lol

DakeDekaane wrote:

Hi Nanatsu and Steins. Added to the issues addressed above, I want to point out a few more things after a quick look.

[General]
00:22:514 - 00:30:914 - This part feels a bit crowded with notes. The song may have a lot of beats here, but still has a calm atmosphere. In Inner Oni, this isn't much of a problem as other sections are denser than this; but in the difficulites below, that difference isn't that clear. It'd be appreciated to have this section reduced a bit in density in Futsuu-Oni.
Suggestions:
Futsuu: Move 00:26:114 (10) - 1 beat forwards, and remove 00:27:014 (12) - . Keep a similar rhythm for next parts. It should be like this:

Muzukashii: Remove 00:24:539 (11,12) - , 00:26:939 (21,22) - , 00:29:339 (31,32) - , 00:31:814 (41) -

OK. But i'm not going to delete 00:31:814 (41) - because i don't think it's necessary to delete

also, it's clear to hear the impact sound.

Oni: Remove notes like 00:23:714 (13) - , 00:23:939 (15) - , 00:24:614 (21) - , 00:24:839 (23) -, etc.

I reaaaaaally don't think the 3-plots on this diff is problem....

the main rhythm itself requires it and the pattern also not much hard compared other parts. still, i deleted some notes.

02:23:864 - For this beat, a big note is much more appreciated and would give a better ending feeling than the spinner.

I tried re-arrange but i'mt not sure hue, probably need re-check.

[ Kantan]

1. SV could be 1.40
   
   OK.
   
   
2. 00:37:514 (17) - This note could be moved to 00:37:814 - , like 00:33:014 -.
   
   hmmm i'm following main rhythm like 00:36:914 (16,17,18,19,20) - them.
   
   For consistency, No.
   
   
3. Added to Nardo's suggestion for 00:51:914 (42) - , 00:53:114 (44) - can be deleted too, to emphasize better the big notes.
   
   LOL many ppl are trying to point out here. OK, Done.\
   
   
4. 01:59:114 (6,7) - There seems to be a sudden layer change here, from bass to the synth, feeling a bit awkward. I'd suggest move 01:59:414 (7) - to 01:59:714 - , 02:01:214 (11) - to 02:00:914 - , and remove 02:00:614 (10) - , this would keep following the bass while focusing a bit on the synth too (resulting rhythm would be dkd d dkd).
   
   
   That was good, OK!
   
   
5. How about adding notes in 02:21:764 - and 02:22:964 - (while moving 02:22:814 (8) - to 02:22:514 - ). This part is relatively quite compared with the song.
   
   Quite Good, Applied. but probably i need your re-check about dk / big things? up to you tho.

[ Futsuu]

1. 00:01:364 (2,4) - I'd suggest to remove notes like this to keep a bit simple the map, considering Muzukashii has a very similar rhythm.
2. 01:26:714 (22,23) - Remove this notes and add a note in 01:27:014 - , it'd fit better the instrument you're following.
3. 01:27:614 (26,29) - Shouldn't these notes be removed to be consistent with 01:22:514 (9,10,11,12) - ?
4. 01:30:914 (36) - Move this to 01:30:614 - , to follow better the song.

[ Muzukashii]

1. 01:56:114 - 02:02:114 - This section could be a bit different, right now it looks too similar to the next kiai (if not the same), which isn't a bad thing, but I feel it makes the kiai have less emphasis as we're already spoiling it here. There are three ways to change this: making it less dense, making it more don heavy, or following the bass.
   
   
   Re-arranged.

[ Oni]

1. 01:50:114 (412) - There's a missing slidertick. Extend this by 1/16. Also, check your other sliders.
   
   OK... But i can't find what was changed by this way lol..
   
   
2. 01:56:114 - 02:02:114 - Same as Muzukashii
   
   
   Re-arranged.

[ Inner Oni]

1. 01:56:114 - 02:02:114 - Here the density is lower than the kiai! This is what you should've done in Muzukashii and Oni.
   
   
   02:00:914 (43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57) - W-What...? lol....

That'd be all.

Steins wrote:

applied all mods

http://puu.sh/ptETK/5847f04372.osu

• [Kantan]

1. 00:58:514 (6) - Due to the base SV change to 1.4, this slider should be resnapped.

• [Muzukashii]

1. 00:56:114 (5) - consider deleting this note for an essential 2/1 break ? Currently there is none from 00:29:714 to 01:11:564 -
2. 01:31:664 (63,64) - similar to ^ , these notes should be removed to provide a rest moment right before the dense kiai. This is quite important since you can hardly find any 2/1 rest from 01:12:164 - til the end of the map.
3. 01:31:214 (61,62) - change these two notes to k if you apply ^ for a smoother flow.
4. 01:50:114 (163) - refer to Oni
5. 01:58:364 (12) - as Dake mentioned, this note could be deleted as well to further lower the note density, following the break at 01:55:964 -
6. 02:00:764 (23) - same as ^
7. 02:02:114 (1) - consider ending this spinner at 02:02:714 - for one more 2/1 break ? This could allow intermediate players to finish the spinner earlier and get prepared for the next kiai.

• [Oni]

1. 01:50:114 (412) - I guess you need to alter the slider in this way for the missing tick:

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

A quick recheck here. (no kd)

• [Kantan]

1. 00:58:514 (6) - Due to the base SV change to 1.4, this slider should be resnapped.
   
   Oh Yeah, Done!

• [Muzukashii]

1. 00:56:114 (5) - consider deleting this note for an essential 2/1 break ? Currently there is none from 00:29:714 to 01:11:564 -
   
   hmmm this is for consistency, i used note here for other diffs too
   
   
2. 01:31:664 (63,64) - similar to ^ , these notes should be removed to provide a rest moment right before the dense kiai. This is quite important since you can hardly find any 2/1 rest from 01:12:164 - til the end of the map.
3. 01:31:214 (61,62) - change these two notes to k if you apply ^ for a smoother flow.
   
   Re-arranged!
   
   
4. 01:50:114 (163) - refer to Oni
   
   Done!
   
   
5. 01:58:364 (12) - as Dake mentioned, this note could be deleted as well to further lower the note density, following the break at 01:55:964 -
6. 02:00:764 (23) - same as ^
   
   All Done!
   
   
7. 02:02:114 (1) - consider ending this spinner at 02:02:714 - for one more 2/1 break ? This could allow intermediate players to finish the spinner earlier and get prepared for the next kiai.
   
   aww... maybe not necessarily right? i don't think it's worth issue to change....
   and it's still less length than oni / inner oni diffs too

• [Oni]

1. 01:50:114 (412) - I guess you need to alter the slider in this way for the missing tick:
   
   Done! <3

Surono wrote:

new footshoe mapper, rip Property.

edit:
01:00:914 - ~ 01:10:514 - pls.,

Nanatsu wrote:

Surono wrote:

new footshoe mapper, rip Property.

edit:
01:00:914 - ~ 01:10:514 - pls.,

Should i make like this? LOOOOOOOOOOOL

Surono wrote:

new footshoe mapper, rip Property.

• 01:37:514 (31,32) - Why are these big notes?

• 01:23:414 - , 01:28:214 - You could add notes in these spots, the rhythm feels a bit incomplete here.

DakeDekaane wrote:

Rechecking.

[ Kantan]

• 01:37:514 (31,32) - Why are these big notes?

[ Futsuu]

• 01:23:414 - , 01:28:214 - You could add notes in these spots, the rhythm feels a bit incomplete here.

_Gezo_ wrote:

Rechecked the mappu, qualifiederino