Might as well accuse all the other top players as well since their plays aren't too normal for most people's standards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd_te50ZNdEAri-chan wrote:
And this is normal? Ok.
|SilentWings wrote:
Do you seriously think that the map Lesjuh played in the video is the same calibur as the kirbymix?
The difficulty difference is huge. Thus, making a video of a play on a much easier song proves nothing.
Just go spectate Cookiezi sometime and you will see just how skilled he is.
---------------------------------Orkel wrote:
If some less known player did the same feat as that dt+hidden replay, people would be bitching all over him. But it's cookiezi so everyone is just "oh he's just good" :/
Guys, I'd like to note that SilentWings speaks clarity here,SilentWings wrote:
Do you seriously think that the map Lesjuh played in the video is the same calibur as the kirbymix?
The difficulty difference is huge. Thus, making a video of a play on a much easier song proves nothing.
Just go spectate Cookiezi sometime and you will see just how skilled he is.
Tell me if Cookiezi isn't good.dNextGen wrote:
|SilentWings wrote:
Do you seriously think that the map Lesjuh played in the video is the same calibur as the kirbymix?
The difficulty difference is huge. Thus, making a video of a play on a much easier song proves nothing.
Just go spectate Cookiezi sometime and you will see just how skilled he is.
|
VOrkel wrote:
If some less known player did the same feat as that dt+hidden replay, people would be bitching all over him. But it's cookiezi so everyone is just "oh he's just good" :/
you missed the point broAri-chan wrote:
Tell me if Cookiezi isn't good.
maybe the DT + hidden records is legitLunah wrote:
So, open your eyes, he is the best player ..
You can't prove he is a cheater, we can't prove that he isn't.dNextGen wrote:
maybe the DT + hidden records is legitLunah wrote:
So, open your eyes, he is the best player ..
but 100 x 0 and 50 x 0 in Kirby map still stuck in my head
Haha, indeed, but strong suspicions can only be removed with proof. I can't be certain, but I sure can accuse or suspect based on the replays that I've seen.Ari-chan wrote:
You can't prove he is a cheater, we can't prove that he isn't.dNextGen wrote:
maybe the DT + hidden records is legit
but 100 x 0 and 50 x 0 in Kirby map still stuck in my head
I think you need something really convincing to prove that madskillz player is cheating.
And he knows that how? That is the proof I'm looking for.Lunah wrote:
Guys stop accusing Cookiezi, bikko, and others this is last inform .. go to reporto real cheaters, not pro players
Peppy knows they don't cheat, so you need stop ..
Peppy knows Cookiezi doesn't cheat, because..? What was he shown that convinced him? Show it to us aswell.Firstly, it's peppy not Peppy.
No.Rukarioman wrote:
Because even IF he is cheating you can't see it while spectating.
Good idea.Zekira wrote:
Peppy knows Cookiezi doesn't cheat, because..? What was he shown that convinced him? Show it to us aswell.Firstly, it's peppy not Peppy.
Second, since it's directly addressed to peppy, why not ask him directly for it? Stop confining yourself within the walls of this thread.
-SiN- wrote:
Cookiezi should be registered to "no life person of osu!" rather than this thread..
well... i dont really care lol
KRZY wrote:
On a more relevant note,
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/39522
#2's score and spin replay.
Take a look at the replay yourself if you have time, you'll lol.
(well I know this discussion about Cookiezi is over, but meh)SilentWings wrote:
What I don't get is why people get suspicious of his plays. It is humanly possible and I don't find them to be overwhelmingly good to the point where they can bring suspicion.
I can safely say that this is the most wtfspin I have ever seen in my entire osu!life. How the fuck can you do that... (it's not like the usual uber mouse speed spins. Or is it...) =w= In fact it's so impossible I bet the SPM counter actually made a stack overflow...TKiller wrote:
[attachment=0:7e75d]snapshot20100829012247.jpg[/attachment:7e75d]KRZY wrote:
On a more relevant note,
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/39522
#2's score and spin replay.
Take a look at the replay yourself if you have time, you'll lol.
Read the previous pages. It's already been stated that he uses a touchscreen to play, so that's why the cursor looks odd.adron zhero wrote:
Duno if it is the right thread but...
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/66514
Diff: Madness
Hacker:Bikku
Obvious auto hack... it's impossible that some1 can aim so fast.
I wonder, how can some1 tick 1/4 on a touchscreen? d:Gens wrote:
Read the previous pages. It's already been stated that he uses a touchscreen to play, so that's why the cursor looks odd.adron zhero wrote:
Duno if it is the right thread but...
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/66514
Diff: Madness
Hacker:Bikku
Obvious auto hack... it's impossible that some1 can aim so fast.
This dude glitched the game @.@Zekira wrote:
I can safely say that this is the most wtfspin I have ever seen in my entire osu!life.
Yes, seriously.Galkan92 wrote:
This dude glitched the game @.@Zekira wrote:
I can safely say that this is the most wtfspin I have ever seen in my entire osu!life.
These maps are very easy to memorize.SuperMaay wrote:
That kensei akio dude must have freezed the client to spin like that, lol.
Anyway, here's a guy we should probably keep an eye on:
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/219057
tons of #1 and every single of them have HID + FL enabled.
Even on "Can't defeat airman", which has epic spacing.
lol...So all players played with HD+FL and FC songs in 100 PC must die? Come on...SuperMaay wrote:
Well, that was just an example, there are even harder maps in which you used HID + FL.
Anyway, "I memorized" is the most common answer to be expected, and arguing with you here won't really prove anything. From both sides.
I apologize if you actually took the time to memorize every single note from your HID + FL records, but keep in mind that since there is no way for me to know whether your scores are legit or not, I had to post here.
KRZY wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/39522
#2's score and spin replay.
Take a look at the replay yourself if you have time, you'll lol.
You're exaggerating, I merely said we should probably keep an eye on him...Selee wrote:
lol...So all players played with HD+FL and FC songs in 100 PC must die? Come on...
He may very well be, using HID + FL is a pretty hard thing to do (and on his replays, he doesn't even need to search for the notes, I wish I had that memory). However, I've never seen a record of him on an insane or an actually hard map, I could only see HID + FL on easy/normals, which can be easily explained by a macro or the program moneto used for his FL scores other than memorization.Selee wrote:
Gomo is a pro player, at least better than his rank and your expectation. He just has some Internet problems and he hate anime songs...
Which is why I said there is little point on arguing this here, let's leave the proving to the respective people, shall we? I merely reported an account I found fishy, after all, low playcount plus HID + FL scores is the most common symptom for hacked accounts, as it is the easiest way of cheating in osu! imo.Selee wrote:
I don't believe players who FL and FC songs with low PC, but... you can't prove they are cheating...
whatKRZY wrote:
On a more relevant note,
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/39522
#2's score and spin replay.
Take a look at the replay yourself if you have time, you'll lol.
Zetta wrote:
Not sure if this is the correct place to report this but I think I found a multi account.
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/42036 <-- Masterlaster from Germany
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/38971 <-- MasterMaster also from Germany
They are not multi-accounting :pZetta wrote:
Not sure if this is the correct place to report this but I think I found a multi account.
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/42036 <-- Masterlaster from Germany
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/38971 <-- MasterMaster also from Germany
Yeah I still don't understand why he/she isn't banned. Pretty freakin' obvious they have an auto/macro going on.( They said they FC'd Marisa with the Taiko Drum control with the rolling trick, witch would be perfectly possible but the home drum cannot respond that quickly, plus there is a response delay to the drum - PC every hit.) Also, players have told me they've seen the person miss a note while in spectator mode, then their note counter just goes back up to what it was before they missed, so they receive a full combo. Could be a glitch.Lunah wrote:
Hello, player kanopu (1st place)
Another - Taiko : http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=30613&m=1
Auto Key Press FTW (or macro) .. he did perfect all 300 a stream 1/8 (382 BPM (:), and 1 100s .. really lol has cheated too in Marisa, but anyone banned him ..
(I listen this replay much times, press are precise with timing, not errors, all perfect .. we are human i remember lol)
Cirno wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/64702
#1 on Normal
Rank Score Accuracy Player Max Combo 300 / 100 / 50 Geki (Elite Beat!) Katu (Beat!) Misses Mods
#1 4,717,226 69.55% [Brazil] Mr1337x 32 80 / 35 / 5 22 24 13 None
okay, this must be wrong somehow._.
Lunah wrote:
Hello, player kanopu (1st place)
Another - Taiko : http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=30613&m=1
Auto Key Press FTW (or macro) .. he did perfect all 300 a stream 1/8 (382 BPM (:), and 1 100s .. really lol has cheated too in Marisa, but anyone banned him ..
(I listen this replay much times, press are precise with timing, not errors, all perfect .. we are human i remember lol)
MMzz wrote:
Yeah I still don't understand why he/she isn't banned. Pretty freakin' obvious they have an auto/macro going on.( They said they FC'd Marisa with the Taiko Drum control with the rolling trick, witch would be perfectly possible but the home drum cannot respond that quickly, plus there is a response delay to the drum - PC every hit.)
I heard from KRZY.MMzz wrote:
Also, players have told me they've seen the person miss a note while in spectator mode, then their note counter just goes back up to what it was before they missed, so they receive a full combo. Could be a glitch.
Because he got 1 100s, i saw the replay and how i explain before, is just like Auto3UNI wrote:
and Lunah, why not anyone else who've FCed Time to Donald but kanopu?
eMkay wrote:
I really don't know where to put it so i put it here :/
This guy seems pretty strange: http://osu.ppy.sh/u/450978
Joined 9th of August and Accuracy of 99,72% ?!
Definitely Multi account.
Dat spinAi-nene wrote:
ehm ehm.
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/28894
pebbles looks awful :-/ ranked #5
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/pebbles
Double hits? =PLouis Cyphre wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=1147&m=1
I don't want to say that kanopu cheater and i don't want to ask everyone how he did it.
I have another question
#2 1,291,420 B 94.19% Rokodo 937 1040 / 109 / 0 0 0 13 None
#1 1,292,720 S 98.80% kanopu 1162 1134 / 28 / 0 0 0 0 None
Rokodo did 109 100's and 13 misses, kanopu did FC with only 28 100's and difference is 1300 points. HOW? O_O
Auto did ~1.47 millions.
lrn2read orzLouis Cyphre wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=1147&m=1
I don't want to say that kanopu cheater and i don't want to ask everyone how he did it.
I have another question
#2 1,291,420 B 94.19% Rokodo 937 1040 / 109 / 0 0 0 13 None
#1 1,292,720 S 98.80% kanopu 1162 1134 / 28 / 0 0 0 0 None
Rokodo did 109 100's and 13 misses, kanopu did FC with only 28 100's and difference is 1300 points. HOW? O_O
Auto did ~1.47 millions.
------3UNI wrote:
There are a lot of ways to hit 1/8 streams.
you can either use two keyboard keys, keyboard+mouse, or a Taiko-fitted TaTaCon.
MMzz, i don't think you know the fact that TaTaCons can be upgraded to virtually eliminate lags and delays.
Most Japanese and Korean players use the upgraded version![]()
and Lunah, why not anyone else who've FCed Time to Donald but kanopu?![]()
Oh and on a side note,
This(about kanopu) has been already discussed and concluded, I hope people don't bring this up anymore
then ,you and me doesnt have anything different then :3Lunah wrote:
I think we have nothing to add, i'll talk with peppy for this, because isn't macro or something else, i'm talking about the "perfect timing how he press". is hacked, autokey press
When you watch him, seems auto xD..
Because he got 1 100s, i saw the replay and how i explain before, is just like Auto
You're crazy ... lol , what shared ? .. please avoid this posts useless .. btw, this is for all : please stop make much posts about 1 player..dNextGen wrote:
then ,you and me doesnt have anything different then :3
me accusing cookiezi because he's only got 1 random miss in Kirby diff
and you accusing kanopu because he's only hot 1 100s in 1/8 stream map
There are a lot of ways to hit 1/8 streams.
you can either use two keyboard keys, keyboard+mouse, or a Taiko-fitted TaTaCon.
MMzz, i don't think you know the fact that TaTaCons can be upgraded to virtually eliminate lags and delays.
Most Japanese and Korean players use the upgraded version
i don't want to ask everyone how he did it.
I have another question
Double hits? =PDouble hits on what?
Louis Cyphre wrote:
Double hits on what?
Selee wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/60800
Another #1...lol
I hope I can do that too..(run
Rokodo did 109 100's and 13 misses, kanopu did FC with only 28 100's and difference is 1300 points. HOW? O_OThe only explanation would be double hits. kanopu lacked a crapload of double hits
Auto did ~1.47 millions.
Oh wow thats overkill, he hacked himself 4 million points lolAi-nene wrote:
another one!
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/64702
Ranked #1 with C (people with Silver SS on 2nd...)
Profile Link:
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/478066
Wow....KRZY wrote:
So, you think you've shitted bricks before?
Then behold, for I bring Cookiezi playing osu! in real life.
You'll be relieved if you don't shit the intestines out of you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcAIccvqT_c -> Aurora 2 [KIRBY Mix]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ijtFWPwWSs -> Love-colored Dream [Dream] +Hidden +DoubleTime
Make sure you turn up your volumes.
Enjoy.
that's a really lame combo break on Aurora 2 :DKRZY wrote:
So, you think you've shitted bricks before?
Then behold, for I bring Cookiezi playing osu! in real life.
You'll be relieved if you don't shit the intestines out of you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcAIccvqT_c -> Aurora 2 [KIRBY Mix]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ijtFWPwWSs -> Love-colored Dream [Dream] +Hidden +DoubleTime
Make sure you turn up your volumes.
Enjoy.
hmm,,KRZY wrote:
So, you think you've shitted bricks before?
Then behold, for I bring Cookiezi playing osu! in real life.
You'll be relieved if you don't shit the intestines out of you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcAIccvqT_c -> Aurora 2 [KIRBY Mix]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ijtFWPwWSs -> Love-colored Dream [Dream] +Hidden +DoubleTime
Make sure you turn up your volumes.
Enjoy.
Everyone knows Cookie doesn't cheat, it's just newer people that can't accept he's better than them. It happens a lot.Natteke wrote:
I knew cookie was'n cheating
Lmao, you gotta give the guy props for that.Blue Dragon wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/60800
ROFL at the max combo
How the hell do people hack the scores that get sent anyway...? o_OBlue Dragon wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/60800
ROFL at the max combo
Hes epic:Blue Dragon wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/60800
ROFL at the max combo
that's not THAT hard if you know the basics but I shouldn't give into details.Zekira wrote:
How the hell do people hack the scores that get sent anyway...? o_O
Damn, the 2nd video got me to brick some shits. >.>KRZY wrote:
So, you think you've shitted bricks before?
Then behold, for I bring Cookiezi playing osu! in real life.
You'll be relieved if you don't shit the intestines out of you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcAIccvqT_c -> Aurora 2 [KIRBY Mix]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ijtFWPwWSs -> Love-colored Dream [Dream] +Hidden +DoubleTime
Make sure you turn up your volumes.
Enjoy.
And of course that involves somehow tweaking the data that gets sent to the server, because definitely the replay cannot reflect this. What I do know though is that the numbers for each number in the ranking screen are stored in their own variables and can actually be altered directly, which I think is the case here...TKiller wrote:
that's not THAT hard if you know the basics but I shouldn't give into details.Zekira wrote:
How the hell do people hack the scores that get sent anyway...? o_O
There was a guy at #russian experimenting with this and few other things, but he got banned long time ago anyway.
Uhm, I'm not sure about that...Zekira wrote:
It's like the asian version of Lesjuh, really. I'm not surprised.
There is almost no difference for me using Hidden or non-Hidden except a few 100s and then a couple maps (like this one) need some memorization. The only major exception is combining Hidden with Flashlight.SuperMaay wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen Lesjuh using hidden, and Cookiezi seems to use it almost as if it made no difference to him.
That's not what I meant. I meant when he first started using hidden generally, not on his first attempt at a map. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I don't really think he would have any problem at FCing most maps with hidden on his first try now a days.Zekira wrote:
Do note that Lybydose can actually first-play-FC maps using Hidden.
He even has links to his other profile.... -______-dNextGen wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/Refresh
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/Defresh
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