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Toraboruta - Soleil [Osu|CatchTheBeat]

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Noffy
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Noffy
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 6:47:04 PM

Artist: Toraboruta
Title: Soleil
Tags: vocaloid kagamine rin len travolta CHRIS 松村拓海 Matsumura Takumi KAITO トラボティック・シンフォニー Torabotic Symphony bird Jonawaga Ayyri WildOne94
BPM: 200
Filesize: 32481kb
Play Time: 03:44
Difficulties Available:
  1. Collabird (4.11 stars, 588 notes)
  2. Easy (1.61 stars, 235 notes)
  3. Hard (2.99 stars, 470 notes)
  4. Jon's Light Insane (3.73 stars, 565 notes)
  5. Normal (2.22 stars, 366 notes)
  6. Wild's Rain (3.64 stars, 582 notes)
Download: Toraboruta - Soleil
Download: Toraboruta - Soleil (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Shining a bright gold, you are Soleil.

Easy, Normal, Hard by Noffy
Collabird is a collabirdation between Ayyri and Noffy.
Jon's Light (as feather) Insane by Jonawaga
Wild's Rain (of light) by WildOne94

composed by Toraboruta | illustrated by CHRIS
nicovideo | youtube | youtube (reprint, subbed)


Sliders are nice.



Tomato'd by - Magic Bomb
Bubbled by - sheela
Qualified by - Magic Bomb
Last edited by Noffy , edited 146 times in total.
Okoratu
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Okoratu

dorothy3242 wrote:

Sliders are nice
skilledmine
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skilledmine
easy: 01:49:864 (1) - from here it is good to stop the tfirst kiai to have no more than 1/3 kiai 00:51:064 (1) - i think its too late set it earlier then it is better in the beat 01:37:864 - i mean here is a good point to get not space 03:11:464 - i mean here is a good point to get not space 03:15:064 -
i mean here is a good point to get not space 03:18:664 - i mean here is a good point to get not space normal: replace 00:44:164 (2) - with 00:44:464 (3) - then it is better in the beat hard: 00:59:014 (2) - one tick later + 00:59:164 (3) - delete then it is better in the beat 03:04:864 (6) - it would be better in the beat if it ist one tick earlier 00:44:164 (2,3,4) - delete and set at the point of 00:44:164 (2) - 00:44:614 (5) - the set the cirle at this time 00:44:764 - then it ist better in the beat. this i how i think it will be a little bit better but i hope i can help you
Crimmi
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Crimmi
Thank you for applying at the #modreqsea. Feel free to ignore or reject any parts of your map that you deem unfit and vice versa.


More Celtic Waltz / Waltz~!

General (Metadata, Timing, etc.)


_________________________________________________________



  1. Your .osz exceeds the 30 MB limit without video. (You have 31 MB.)
  2. BUT. . . the culprit is. . ."DARKNESS.png", with a whopping 1.23 MB! Change it to jpeg and you'll be fine.
  3. There is a lack of hitsounds, soft whistles and normal hitsounds will work wonders on this map imo.

Easy



  1. Why not use a DS of 0.9x instead of 0.85x?
  2. 01:18:364 (x) - Maybe add a note here?
  3. 01:20:164 (x) - Same thing here.
  4. 01:21:964 (x) - ^ (All of them because of the guitar in the background)

Normal



  1. Clear~

Hard



  1. Clear~

Meh, I suck!~ GL~!
Okoratu
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Okoratu
oh wait i wanted to gd here, i should actually map something in order to do that right
Noffy
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Noffy

mine632 wrote:

easy:
01:49:864 (1) - from here it is good to stop the tfirst kiai to have no more than 1/3 kiai ! oh dear I didn't realize more than 1/3 of the song was kiai. Fixed by mapping the opening instead o:
00:51:064 (1) - i think its too late set it earlier then it is better in the beat 01:37:864 - Hmm I think you're right, changed a bit.
i mean here is a good point to get not space 03:11:464 - i mean here is a good point to get not space 03:15:064 -
i mean here is a good point to get not space 03:18:664 - i mean here is a good point to get not space No change, I think that much clicking would be a bit too hard.
normal:
replace 00:44:164 (2) - with 00:44:464 (3) - then it is better in the beat there is no sound here 00:44:314 that this change would be mapping the reverse arrow to so no change
hard:
00:59:014 (2) - one tick later + 00:59:164 (3) - delete then it is better in the beat 00:59:014 (2) - I'd prefer to keep it mapped to the beat there
03:04:864 (6) - it would be better in the beat if it ist one tick earlier hm, I disagree that this would fit the beat better. No change.. ;;
00:44:164 (2,3,4) - delete and set at the point of 00:44:164 (2) - 00:44:614 (5) - the set the cirle at this time 00:44:764 - then it ist better in the beat. Tried it out but it didn't seem to work that well, so no change here.
this i how i think it will be a little bit better but i hope i can help you Thank you for modding, kind soul! It did help a wee bit o/

Crimmi wrote:

Thank you for applying at the #modreqsea. Feel free to ignore or reject any parts of your map that you deem unfit and vice versa.


More Celtic Waltz / Waltz~! Waltz is worthy of needing moooarr

General (Metadata, Timing, etc.)


_________________________________________________________



  1. Your .osz exceeds the 30 MB limit without video. (You have 31 MB.) Oh dear
  2. BUT. . . the culprit is. . ."DARKNESS.png", with a whopping 1.23 MB! Change it to jpeg and you'll be fine. I had forgotten the background! Will do! o/
  3. There is a lack of hitsounds, soft whistles and normal hitsounds will work wonders on this map imo. Ye I haven't hitsounded yet we shall see those soon yes

Easy



  1. Why not use a DS of 0.9x instead of 0.85x? .9x I felt was slightly too big at times compared to .85. Slightly.
  2. 01:18:364 (x) - Maybe add a note here?
  3. 01:20:164 (x) - Same thing here.
  4. 01:21:964 (x) - ^ (All of them because of the guitar in the background) Hmm the resulting rhyhtm works and is similar-ish to the kiai patterns so added these three yes

Normal



  1. Clear~ Ooo~

Hard



  1. Clear~ Aaa~

Meh, I suck!~ GL~! Thank you! xD

Okoratu wrote:

oh wait i wanted to gd here, i should actually map something in order to do that right
Ye that's usually how it works, but we could always credit oko's insane to Okoratu and not have any such difficulty to confuse any who read the description if you'd like

proof that oko's first post deserve kudosu
2015-05-08 21:44 Okoratu: it's 200bpm
2015-05-08 21:44 Okoratu: ACTION shrugs
2015-05-08 21:44 dorothy3242: 200bpm
2015-05-08 21:44 dorothy3242: is a mysterious number
2015-05-08 21:44 Okoratu: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/147430 100-200
2015-05-08 21:45 dorothy3242: and apparently 61?
2015-05-08 21:45 Okoratu: ya a stupid slowdown which gave me a headache
2015-05-08 21:45 Okoratu: when trying to time it and then  confirming i don't suck
2015-05-08 21:45 Okoratu: i ended up confirming that i'm deaf yo
2015-05-08 21:46 dorothy3242: a troublesome affliction yo
2015-05-08 21:46 dorothy3242: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/690168 Toraboruta - Soleil]
2015-05-08 21:46 dorothy3242: according to various sources 200 bpm, but it feels..
2015-05-08 21:46 Okoratu: it's yellow
2015-05-08 21:46 Okoratu: the image
2015-05-08 21:46 dorothy3242: yellow is master color
2015-05-08 21:49 Okoratu: 01:15:664 (3) - [http://puu.sh/hGyB7/327fcaffc9.jpg this might look a bit better than nearly touching it]
2015-05-08 21:50 dorothy3242: ooo alright shall fix
2015-05-08 21:51 Okoratu: looking pretty good
2015-05-08 21:51 dorothy3242: \o/
2015-05-08 21:54 Okoratu: idk how cool would you be with higher AR like +.5 just 7 seems kinda low for the note density sometimes
2015-05-08 21:56 Okoratu: 00:34:264 (1,3) - this is the only time you overlap stuff like this, might just avoid that altogether or do it more often but just once looks like you didn't know where to go with the first slider lol
2015-05-08 21:56 dorothy3242: Ok I'll put the AR a bit higher. I was worried I'd end up going too high again and put it a bit lower than I originally thought it sohuld bee
2015-05-08 21:57 dorothy3242: woops that first slider was originally overlapping will fix
2015-05-08 21:57 Okoratu: 00:50:764 (3) - using a 1/1 slider instead of this might vie you some troubles arranging it but it will get rid of one of the very few 3/2 pauses 00:50:764 (3,1) -
2015-05-08 21:58 dorothy3242: vie?
2015-05-08 21:58 Okoratu: might give
2015-05-08 21:58 Okoratu: vie
2015-05-08 21:58 Okoratu: how
2015-05-08 21:59 dorothy3242: keyboard magic
2015-05-08 22:00 Okoratu: 01:25:564 (1,2,3,4,5) - the movement you need to do in order to play this is more complicated than anything else in this diff, is that intentional or did it just happen, because i don't really see a reason to use a pattern which requires that much more concentration here
2015-05-08 22:01 dorothy3242: It kind of happened and while I see that it's a more complicated move not really sure how to make it.. less complicated
2015-05-08 22:02 Okoratu: the only 2 things i might have to complain about besides that is that 00:16:264 (2,1,2,3,4,5,1) - this is extremely stressful on the reading side compared to stuff
2015-05-08 22:03 dorothy3242: that whole section in general?
2015-05-08 22:03 Okoratu: nah just that pattern since it's a lot of circles with different distances on timeline stuff
2015-05-08 22:04 Okoratu: and changing rhythm to something like http://puu.sh/hGzhh/eebb7e483c.jpg ends up fitting vocal better as well so you could proabably work around with that doing some circular movement or something
2015-05-08 22:05 dorothy3242: you mean for 01:25:564 (1,2,3,4,5) - ?
2015-05-08 22:06 Okoratu: yea
2015-05-08 22:07 dorothy3242: oo will try to do that theno
2015-05-08 22:07 dorothy3242: then*
2015-05-08 22:07 Okoratu: like the 2 stressed vocals are in 01:26:164 - and 01:26:314 - and one of them is a sliderend currently
2015-05-08 22:07 Okoratu: 01:30:964 (4,5) - this felt weird and i now see why because you were running low on space lmao
2015-05-08 22:07 dorothy3242: ah so that's why will take note
2015-05-08 22:08 dorothy3242: the long sliders are both life and death 
2015-05-08 22:09 Okoratu: idk
2015-05-08 22:09 Okoratu: would stacking 01:31:564 (5) - with 01:30:964 (4) - 's end make it easier to read ??
2015-05-08 22:10 Okoratu: alternatively you could just get rid of it by moving 01:30:664 (3,4) - to the left and up as far as possibly needed to maintain 1.2x ds
2015-05-08 22:11 dorothy3242: slider stacking isn't in this map too much so I'll go with moving 01:30:664 (3,4) - 
2015-05-08 22:12 Okoratu: 00:16:264 (2,1,2) - one possible solution for this being kind of complex is http://puu.sh/hGzEP/e7b87759bc.jpg using sliders for the 3/2 things so that the only gaps in this pattern are 1/2 or 1/1 which is a lot easier to comprehend when playing imo
2015-05-08 22:12 Okoratu: your choice this is just a random idea
2015-05-08 22:12 Okoratu: ~
2015-05-08 22:13 dorothy3242: ~~
2015-05-08 22:14 Okoratu: 00:51:364 (2) - isn't the vocal on this one a lot longer than what it covers or am i deaf
2015-05-08 22:14 Okoratu: the actual vocal ends on 00:53:914 - imo but lol
2015-05-08 22:14 dorothy3242: it is but it's so soft that when there's a slider there it's almost
2015-05-08 22:14 dorothy3242: "what is this still going for"
2015-05-08 22:15 Okoratu: if you make it shorter than the actual vocal i would have it end on 00:52:264 - for the sound which is there
2015-05-08 22:16 Okoratu: 01:05:764 (3,1) - this gave me the stacking idea btw
2015-05-08 22:16 dorothy3242: stacking idea uwa?
2015-05-08 22:16 Okoratu: i suggested you to stack some sliders or move 2 others
2015-05-08 22:17 Okoratu: this was what gave me the stacking idea
2015-05-08 22:18 Okoratu: pretty likable this diff
2015-05-08 22:19 dorothy3242: ooh I see so that inspired the suggestion I see
2015-05-08 22:19 dorothy3242: \o/
2015-05-08 22:21 dorothy3242: hopefully it'll stay likeable for the last minute 40 seconds thanks for suggestions o/
2015-05-08 22:37 Okoratu: i gotta sleep
2015-05-08 22:37 Okoratu: o/
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Yahuri
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Yahuri
From my queue~
goodness these sliders are so beautiful

Normal
alright first you'll need more hitsounds
00:11:764 (1) - i'd suggest a whistle for something like this, you can go through the map and find others like it
00:20:764 (3) - not the most perfect it could be, make the point 00:20:764 (3) line up with the slider tick
01:14:464 (4,1) - blanket can be improved a little bit
01:26:464 (3) - 01:28:264 (3) - im not sure stacking sliders is a good idea
03:26:614 (2) - make 03:27:664 - line up with the point of the slider

Hope this helps a bit, good luck!
Noffy
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Noffy

Yahuri wrote:

From my queue~ Thank yee for coming~
goodness these sliders are so beautiful Sliders are nice

Normal
alright first you'll need more hitsounds Hitsounds are yet to be finished and hopefully will be finished tomorrow owo/
00:11:764 (1) - i'd suggest a whistle for something like this, you can go through the map and find others like it That's a great idea! I'll be sure to do so!
00:20:764 (3) - not the most perfect it could be, make the point 00:20:764 (3) line up with the slider tick Fixed this to line up the peak with the slider tick and make this slider a bit smoother overall.
01:14:464 (4,1) - blanket can be improved a little bit Adjusted this as well as 01:13:864 (3,2) -
01:26:464 (3) - 01:28:264 (3) - im not sure stacking sliders is a good idea It should be ok hopefully methinks
03:26:614 (2) - make 03:27:664 - line up with the point of the slider This slider is a bit weird from starting on a red and repeating on a blue tick (thanks flute) and folllowing flute (which is ever so slightly not aligned to any tick where I tried my best to align the red anchor with it) so I think that when it's aligned with the slider tick it actually fits less \;w;/

Hope this helps a bit, good luck! It does, and thank you!
Okoratu
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Okoratu
I'll just assume i got the KD for the more or less long irc mod we did as this was about 90% done
Noffy
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Noffy

Okoratu wrote:

I'll just assume i got the KD for the more or less long irc mod we did as this was about 90% done
Yes this is exactly what the KD was for (added logs in a spoiler box a few posts up just in case)
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
I thought the download was 3 MB but then I looked back and it was 31.0

ruh roh

Hard:
00:10:864 - So it's really weird that you focus on only the flute here. While it's important to emphasize when new material is introduced, I think it's also important to keep on following the rhythm that the guitar is playing, while putting emphasis on the flute part. Otherwise you're literally just stuck with empty space, which is no fun in a rhythm ga.e
01:07:564 (1) - nice stack there skipper. If you're going to make this an anti-jump, then make it a little bit further so it doesn't look like a missplaced stack.
01:16:864 - short breaks like these are weird because they don't give people time to really break. Consider doing a little something here following the drums
03:36:064 - Same as before

Normal:
00:10:864 - Same as hard, assume for all diffs.
01:09:364 (3) - stack is imperfect.
and then assume all of the break stuff too

Easy:
02:57:364 (2) - Raise this up a little since the arc isn't entirely as good as it could be. I'd honestly also make it more curved, since right now it's looking shallow compared to the rest of the nicely crafted sliders in the map.
03:26:464 - you need time but you don't need that much time, lol. Put some notes after the sldier that aren't like 3 measures away, so it doesn't kill HP.

I apologize so much for this low quality mod. Please take these kudosu stars as apology
Leorda
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Leorda
Howdy

[General]
* Your beatmap folder is over 30MB with video. Please compress the video to fix this

[Easy]
00:51:364 (2) - Shorten by 1/1? That's end of vocal there...
03:36:064 - Add pattern here? Feels empty btw...

[Normal]
00:11:764 (1) - Why new combo?
00:15:364 (1) - ^
00:51:364 (2) - Shorten by 1/1? That's end of vocal there...
03:36:064 - Add pattern here? Feels empty btw...

[Hard]
03:36:064 - Add pattern here? Feels empty btw...

That's all I got... good luck
Okoratu
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Okoratu
dont compress vid pls
Noffy
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Noffy
I live

Reditum wrote:

I thought the download was 3 MB but then I looked back and it was 31.0

ruh roh roh ruh

Hard:
00:10:864 - So it's really weird that you focus on only the flute here. While it's important to emphasize when new material is introduced, I think it's also important to keep on following the rhythm that the guitar is playing, while putting emphasis on the flute part. Otherwise you're literally just stuck with empty space, which is no fun in a rhythm ga.e ???? but flute not following there is no flute by this point but I see what you mean by emptiness but disagree on it being no fun so no change
01:07:564 (1) - nice stack there skipper. If you're going to make this an anti-jump, then make it a little bit further so it doesn't look like a missplaced stack. it is a stack adjusted to make more stack-like.
01:16:864 - short breaks like these are weird because they don't give people time to really break. Consider doing a little something here following the drums
03:36:064 - Same as before Considered, but I think these two sections work best as breaks, not really so much as breaks but as pauses before entering into new sections that mark a change in how the map goes compared to before.

Normal:
00:10:864 - Same as hard, assume for all diffs.
01:09:364 (3) - stack is imperfect. Fixed stack
and then assume all of the break stuff too

Easy:
02:57:364 (2) - Raise this up a little since the arc isn't entirely as good as it could be. I'd honestly also make it more curved, since right now it's looking shallow compared to the rest of the nicely crafted sliders in the map. Fixed this some, but didn't make the sliders too much more curved since then they'd be curvier than a lot of other sliders in le mappu
03:26:464 - you need time but you don't need that much time, lol. Put some notes after the sldier that aren't like 3 measures away, so it doesn't kill HP. Note added to save a life.

I apologize so much for this low quality mod. Please take these kudosu stars as apology No, sir, thank you for mod and the many a stars. Apologies more than accepted.

Leorda wrote:

Howdy Hullo thar'

[General]
* Your beatmap folder is over 30MB with video. Please compress the video to fix this Seems to be a needless sacrifice. No-video download link added to description of map. Will also add alternate compressed video download for people that want the best of both worlds soon.

[Easy]
00:51:364 (2) - Shorten by 1/1? That's end of vocal there... It actually ends around 2 measures later by slowly fading into the guitar so the slider here is made to end with the underlying guitar pattern so that it ends on.. something.
03:36:064 - Add pattern here? Feels empty btw... This is for there to be a nice bit of pause between following flute and following guitar rather than suddenly switching while the flute is still going

[Normal]
00:11:764 (1) - Why new combo? To counter-act the health drain's deadliness in relative absence of hit-objects.
00:15:364 (1) - ^ ^
00:51:364 (2) - Shorten by 1/1? That's end of vocal there...
03:36:064 - Add pattern here? Feels empty btw...

[Hard]
03:36:064 - Add pattern here? Feels empty btw...

That's all I got... good luck Thankee

Okoratu wrote:

dont compress vid pls
don't worry vid is safe but I'll add a no video dl to description since osu!web doesn't want to do it itself and having no choice but 30mb (unless one is smart enough to travel to the forum page and click that no video download link) is rather cruel.
Speed of Snail
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Speed of Snail
Hey, from my queue.

HARD

00:03:964 - (2,3) This transition does not help a first time player, granted it's not a huge deal but the broken direction gives the initial impression that the SV will be slower than it is and cause someone to break on a sightread. I'd pull 3 and 4 lower down so that you can properly feed 2 into 3 properly without breaking DS between 1 and 2.

00:14:314 - (1,2) Don't like the NC here, again it creates a mental standard that the timing delay between the hits will be larger than it actually is.

00:27:964 - (1,2,3) the sliders 1 and 32 here have awfully steep dips in them, while it's not completely necessary to follow a slider perfectly to hit it it's nice when you can do so without breaking flow, you can't do that here because the SV pulls back fairly quickly compared to the rest of the map, try to shallow out the curvature on those.

00:44:164 - (2,3,4,5) This is a tad awkward to hit, maybe shift the 3 circle around so that the initial movement is upwards instead of backwards, making the flow circular. (x|171,y|259)

01:04:564 - (5) Incomplete blanket here.

01:08:464 - Same thing as at 00:27:964

01:24:664 - (4,5,6) This is a little gross here, 5 still needs to be moving outwards and can't have such a harsh snap like this, Move 6 more out to the right and push 5 further to accommodate for DS.

01:44:664 - Same thing as at 00:27:964

02:05:164 - (4) This looks sloppy because it doesn't follow the direction it's come at from, it should continue to draw a straight line from the circles before it, try to make the tail aim a little higher.

02:40:264 - Broken blanket here, might need to play around to get all 3 of them blanketed properly, don't be afraid to add very slight SV variation if necessary.

03:16:264 - Little bit of a different issue this time but it's still the same with having far too sharp sliders for the patterns that they're filling up.

A lot of my problems with this diff were just in the expectations, so as the map progressed there really weren't many as once expectations are set even deviating a little is irrelevant, nice diff so far.

Sorry, I'm a little pressed for time right now so I'm only able to mod one diff, hope I was able to help, sorry for a short mod.
Noffy
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TheOnlyLeon wrote:

Hey, from my queue. Hi hi~ Sorry for the overly late reply ;_;

HARD

00:03:964 - (2,3) This transition does not help a first time player, granted it's not a huge deal but the broken direction gives the initial impression that the SV will be slower than it is and cause someone to break on a sightread. I'd pull 3 and 4 lower down so that you can properly feed 2 into 3 properly without breaking DS between 1 and 2. No change made as it's not a broken direction but a back and forth establishing what is then used repeatedly throughout the map- the way 3 is curved should be helpful in avoiding slider speed shock thanks to slider leniency, but since the DS is actually larger than the slider speed I believe it is fine.

00:14:314 - (1,2) Don't like the NC here, again it creates a mental standard that the timing delay between the hits will be larger than it actually is. While this may be slightly sommat true I think the NC works better here to emhpasize the new sudden sound it is mapped to that would otherwise be rather unexpected.

00:27:964 - (1,2,3) the sliders 1 and 32 here have awfully steep dips in them, while it's not completely necessary to follow a slider perfectly to hit it it's nice when you can do so without breaking flow, you can't do that here because the SV pulls back fairly quickly compared to the rest of the map, try to shallow out the curvature on those.
01:08:464 - Same thing as at 00:27:964
01:44:664 - Same thing as at 00:27:964
03:16:264 - Little bit of a different issue this time but it's still the same with having far too sharp sliders for the patterns that they're filling up.
Making these sliders less curved would make leading into and out of their respective middle (2) hitcircles an extremely awkward and sharp movement in comparison to how it currently goes as a slight direction change to the continuation of the movement, and would not work as well for these parts of the song, I think, so no change.


00:44:164 - (2,3,4,5) This is a tad awkward to hit, maybe shift the 3 circle around so that the initial movement is upwards instead of backwards, making the flow circular. (x|171,y|259) I'll continue looking at this some more to think of better ways to do it, but this idea would be rather awkward thanks to how it would poorly overlap with the following slider 00:45:064 (1) -

01:04:564 - (5) Incomplete blanket here. Fixed

01:24:664 - (4,5,6) This is a little gross here, 5 still needs to be moving outwards and can't have such a harsh snap like this, Move 6 more out to the right and push 5 further to accommodate for DS. ? I'm not really sure as to how this is gross and doing as suggested would make how it leads into 7 and then the following pattern a rather different in impression ..

02:05:164 - (4) This looks sloppy because it doesn't follow the direction it's come at from, it should continue to draw a straight line from the circles before it, try to make the tail aim a little higher. Not fond of totally straight lines, but did adjust this a bit so that it'd look nicer overall, I hope.

02:40:264 - Broken blanket here, might need to play around to get all 3 of them blanketed properly, don't be afraid to add very slight SV variation if necessary. Fixed the blankets here, though I'm a bit confused by the suggestion you had made to add SV Variation since that seems like an awful idea to randomly have speed changes for the sake of aesthetic...

A lot of my problems with this diff were just in the expectations, so as the map progressed there really weren't many as once expectations are set even deviating a little is irrelevant, nice diff so far. Hm that makes sense, will keep in mind.

Sorry, I'm a little pressed for time right now so I'm only able to mod one diff, hope I was able to help, sorry for a short mod. You were indeed able to help >< thank ye and I'm sorry again for my impolitely late reply >A<
annika69
184 posts
Joined October 2014
annika69
Hey ho o<):-))

[Easy]
Generally I think that the NC are like too short?? You should fix it imo.. I pointed out some, if you could see the pattern here:
00:06:364 (1) - Remove NC
00:07:264 (2) - Add NC
00:09:064 (1) - Remove NC
00:12:664 (1) - Remove NC
00:13:564 (1) - Remove NC
00:15:364 (1) - Remove NC
00:17:164 (1) - Remove NC

00:22:564 (1,2) - I would look much nicer imo if you could make 2 blanket 1
00:27:964 (1,2) - Same here pretty much
00:30:664 (2,1) - Blanket here could be improved
00:36:964 (1) - Sounds better if you remove the reverse
Maybe add hitcircle here 00:39:664 and here 00:41:464
01:38:164 (2) - Maybe change the rythm to http://puu.sh/lyng6/b774c847dd.jpg
01:44:464 (1) - Extend the slider by one beat?

I don't really have much to say about the other diffs.. Oh well! GL with rank and merry early christmas :P
Noffy
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Topic Starter
Noffy

annika69 wrote:

Hey ho o<):-)) hohoho o<) : D

[Easy]
Generally I think that the NC are like too short?? You should fix it imo.. I pointed out some, if you could see the pattern here:
00:06:364 (1) - Remove NC
00:07:264 (2) - Add NC
00:09:064 (1) - Remove NC
00:12:664 (1) - Remove NC
00:13:564 (1) - Remove NC
00:15:364 (1) - Remove NC
00:17:164 (1) - Remove NC mmm... overall I disagree that the nc are too short so no change to those.

00:22:564 (1,2) - I would look much nicer imo if you could make 2 blanket 1
00:27:964 (1,2) - Same here pretty much For these I can see why you would think blankets would look nicer, but I think making these blankets would change quite a lot how it's meant to look and also affect how it's played significantly.
00:30:664 (2,1) - Blanket here could be improved Improved, I thinks.
00:36:964 (1) - Sounds better if you remove the reverse Not really sure how it would sound better as I disagree and think ending it without the reverse sounds odd, no change ><
Maybe add hitcircle here 00:39:664 and here 00:41:464 This area of the song is overall very quiet, so I think that having a rhythm nearly as intense as the kiai would be a bit unfitting and take away from their differences.
01:38:164 (2) - Maybe change the rythm to http://puu.sh/lyng6/b774c847dd.jpg ? not sure why as the current rhythm seems fine and the suggestion ignores the uh uh guitar thing trill
01:44:464 (1) - Extend the slider by one beat? I don't think extending it quite works as then it's going over the start of new phrases in a way that, doesn't quite fit? ><

I don't really have much to say about the other diffs.. Oh well! GL with rank and merry early christmas :P [color=blue]Thank you for taking a look at them! Merriii christmas~
Asaiga
848 posts
Joined July 2013
Asaiga
Hi Noffy, sorry for being late :<

Concept Mod

Collabird

00:03:664 (1) - I don't mind this but how about delete the red point in the middle and readjust the slider?
00:30:364 (2) - Just my reference, you don't have to do this. Ctrl + g. But if you do that, you will have to switch the flow of the next long slider as well.



00:34:264 (1,2) - Increase spacing a bit, they look close together, the player might think they are in a consistent beat.
00:38:464 (1,2,3) - Awkward flow, see if like this better. Select the slider's head, then use Rotation Tool, tick Selection Centre and rotate it by -90 degree.

*another reference*
00:42:364 (2) - Ctrl+g on this. I bring these notes up close you can see clearer what I did here. Please ask me again if you don't understand :<
And mind the overlaps if you did change into what I did here.



00:47:164 (2,3) - Arrghhh I don't want to do this but I can't help myself ; ;. Please don't listen to me if they don't suit the map. It might get worse lol




00:59:164 (3) - try ctrl+g and ctrl+h and move it back to its old position. If no, just do double ctrl+z
01:07:864 (2) - ctrl+g
01:14:764 (1) - I think it's better to place this under (5). So (5)'s end could be overlapped with the middle part of it. And readjust the spacing from (1) to (2) and to (3) if needed.
01:22:864 (3,4) - Mind the spacing. Because sudden 01:23:764 (1,2) - a big spacing here.
01:38:164 (4) - Ctrl+g this.
01:38:464 (5) - Have (5) moved to the left instead.
01:38:764 (6) - Then ctrl+g this :3

01:39:064 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - As for this combo. This is my arrangement. you can try to do something similar to this.



01:50:314 (2) - Move this 1cm to 1.5cm to the left.
01:50:464 (3) - ctrl+g this
01:50:764 (4) - ctrl+g
wallah xDD
You have to remap the following parts tho :<

02:13:714 (2) - In this case, move this note to the right instead of having it blanket
02:40:864 (2) - rotate by 20 to 25 degree. Then it the slider's end blanket with (1). 02:41:164 (3) - ctrl+g this. and blanket it with the (2)'s head
02:48:364 (3,4,5,1) - Leave this here, I think this part needs to be remapped. But I can't find a good solution for it atm

There are many flow issues in this one, otherwise there would have been fewer lines from me.

Hard

01:51:964 (3) - Don't use shape like this, flow is bad, have the slider moved to the left.
02:05:764 (5,6,1) - But this one is ok, I guess it would have been fine if the other 2 similar to this, ctrl+h on the sliders to change their direction. But would have messed up a part of a map.

Sorry, I couldn't find anything else beyond this, or on the lower diffs :<
Noffy
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Topic Starter
Noffy

Asaiga wrote:

Hi Noffy, sorry for being late :< Quite fine not really late at all o/

I looked through your mod on Collabird, and there are good suggestions in there for reasons I agree with, but I will hold off on applying many until Ayyri is able to be on to talk about it, as while it's called Collabird it's more a 70% - 30% effort between us at best with her being its primary mapperino.
Box:
A very few things I went ahead and replied to anyways just a few

Collabird

00:34:264 (1,2) - Increase spacing a bit, they look close together, the player might think they are in a consistent beat. Moved a cm lower as suggested in pm \owo/
00:38:464 (1,2,3) - Awkward flow, see if like this better. Select the slider's head, then use Rotation Tool, tick Selection Centre and rotate it by -90 degree. Changed by Ctrl+G to (1,2)

00:59:164 (3) - try ctrl+g and ctrl+h and move it back to its old position. If no, just do double ctrl+z I do not think this change brings significant difference to the flow, -and it would mess up the symmetry going on with 00:59:164 (3,6) -

01:50:314 (2) - Move this 1cm to 1.5cm to the left. Ok but not quite so much as a centimeter is quite a big difference if using an actual ruler against the screen (my screen at least)

AYYRI LOOK HERE WHEN YOU LIVE
00:03:664 (1) - I don't mind this but how about delete the red point in the middle and readjust the slider?
00:30:364 (2) - Just my reference, you don't have to do this. Ctrl + g. But if you do that, you will have to switch the flow of the next long slider as well.



*another reference*
00:42:364 (2) - Ctrl+g on this. I bring these notes up close you can see clearer what I did here. Please ask me again if you don't understand :<
And mind the overlaps if you did change into what I did here.



00:47:164 (2,3) - Arrghhh I don't want to do this but I can't help myself ; ;. Please don't listen to me if they don't suit the map. It might get worse lol



01:07:864 (2) - ctrl+g
01:14:764 (1) - I think it's better to place this under (5). So (5)'s end could be overlapped with the middle part of it. And readjust the spacing from (1) to (2) and to (3) if needed.
01:22:864 (3,4) - Mind the spacing. Because sudden 01:23:764 (1,2) - a big spacing here.
01:38:164 (4) - Ctrl+g this.
01:38:464 (5) - Have (5) moved to the left instead.
01:38:764 (6) - Then ctrl+g this :3

01:39:064 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - As for this combo. This is my arrangement. you can try to do something similar to this.


01:50:464 (3) - ctrl+g this
01:50:764 (4) - ctrl+g
wallah xDD
You have to remap the following parts tho :<

02:13:714 (2) - In this case, move this note to the right instead of having it blanket
02:40:864 (2) - rotate by 20 to 25 degree. Then it the slider's end blanket with (1). 02:41:164 (3) - ctrl+g this. and blanket it with the (2)'s head
02:48:364 (3,4,5,1) - Leave this here, I think this part needs to be remapped. But I can't find a good solution for it atm

There are many flow issues in this one, otherwise there would have been fewer lines from me.



Hard

01:51:964 (3) - Don't use shape like this, flow is bad, have the slider moved to the left. No change, I do not think the flow here is bad.
02:05:764 (5,6,1) - But this one is ok, I guess it would have been fine if the other 2 similar to this, ctrl+h on the sliders to change their direction. But would have messed up a part of a map. Unsure what you mean by the other two that are similar to this, as similar patterns were used throughout the map aaa

Sorry, I couldn't find anything else beyond this, or on the lower diffs :< If a modder can't find anything I take that as a good sign. Thank you very much for modding \o/
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Shiny Spoon
82 posts
Joined December 2013
Shiny Spoon


[Collabird]

00:08:164 (5,6) - NC on 5

00:20:764 (3) - This repeat slider feels a bit out of place, I suggest changing it into to sliders, where the first ends on the blue tick before the downbeat silence that blue tick then have another slider on the downbeat, would feel a lot better.

00:26:764 (1) - No NC

00:27:064 (2) - NC

00:27:064 (2,3,4) - I have a thing against these types of patterns because they're awkward and can possibly be hard to read. (depends)

00:37:864 (4) - NC

00:39:664 (5) - NC, and no offense. You seem to have a combo issue. Generally, most new combos will be placed onto a downbeat. So far theres a lot of missed and misused new combos. That being said, I will no longer point them out, its now your job to look over the map yourself and determine it.

02:11:014 (7,8) - This feels a bit janky to play considering your current flow in the map that you have, please consider changing this.

03:38:764 (4) - Try curving that upward a bit more, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5321492

[Final Thoughts]

Overall nice map structure wise, but as I said, it has a massive combo issue that needs to be looked over. Sorry if this mod was short for you, I did all I could without repeating myself over and over. I wish you luck with ranking.

Good Luck!

- Spoon
Noffy
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Topic Starter
Noffy

Shiny Spoon wrote:


Hi, thank you for modding. I'll apply what I see fit but the rest of the changes will depend on Ayyri's opinion who can't change the diff at the moment as her PC is dead. Thank you very much though c:

[Collabird]
Ayyri look HERE when you live
00:20:764 (3) - This repeat slider feels a bit out of place, I suggest changing it into to sliders, where the first ends on the blue tick before the downbeat silence that blue tick then have another slider on the downbeat, would feel a lot better.

00:27:064 (2,3,4) - I have a thing against these types of patterns because they're awkward and can possibly be hard to read. (depends)

02:11:014 (7,8) - This feels a bit janky to play considering your current flow in the map that you have, please consider changing this.

00:08:164 (5,6) - NC on 5
00:26:764 (1) - No NC
00:27:064 (2) - NC
00:37:864 (4) - NC
00:39:664 (5) - NC, and no offense. You seem to have a combo issue. Generally, most new combos will be placed onto a downbeat. So far theres a lot of missed and misused new combos. That being said, I will no longer point them out, its now your job to look over the map yourself and determine it. If there was a combo on every down beat, then it would end up with each one lasting to 3 or so. Generally it's every other downbeat, with some exceptions based on what I found to make sense such as distinguishing different patterns. Although I agree there may be some mistakes that I have failed to notice, I disagree with the ones you've pointed out here ><

03:38:764 (4) - Try curving that upward a bit more, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5321492 Good idea, changed this and re-arranged slightly for that improved flowowowowoow

[Final Thoughts]

Overall nice map structure wise, but as I said, it has a massive combo issue that needs to be looked over. Sorry if this mod was short for you, I did all I could without repeating myself over and over. I wish you luck with ranking.

Good Luck! Thankyuu

- Spoon
Ayyri
Ayyri

Noffy wrote:

AYYRI LOOK HERE WHEN YOU LIVE
00:03:664 (1) - I don't mind this but how about delete the red point in the middle and readjust the slider? I disagree. I wanted it to have that edge to it. NICE EDGEY START TO A CALM 200 BPM SONG.
00:30:364 (2) - Just my reference, you don't have to do this. Ctrl + g. But if you do that, you will have to switch the flow of the next long slider as well. Unfortunately, I disagree with this as well. Because changing the general flow of these two sliders don't really contribute to getting to the next pattern. In fact, they cause an inconvenience in my opinion.



*another reference*
00:42:364 (2) - Ctrl+g on this. I bring these notes up close you can see clearer what I did here. Please ask me again if you don't understand :<
And mind the overlaps if you did change into what I did here. I actually have no idea what you're trying to suggest here. Perhaps you could explain on discord later. [/color]



00:47:164 (2,3) - Arrghhh I don't want to do this but I can't help myself ; ;. Please don't listen to me if they don't suit the map. It might get worse lol I feel terrible for rejecting yet another point of your's, but you haven't really explained why you have shown me these changes. For example, this pattern here plays more cumbersomely than what is currently there.



01:07:864 (2) - ctrl+g This looks prettier.
01:14:764 (1) - I think it's better to place this under (5). So (5)'s end could be overlapped with the middle part of it. And readjust the spacing from (1) to (2) and to (3) if needed. I don't think this overlap works.
01:22:864 (3,4) - Mind the spacing. Because sudden 01:23:764 (1,2) - a big spacing here. The change in spacing is to indicate a pause between notes. Because as you can see, there is no note at 01:23:314 - therefore, increased spacing is for readability.
01:38:164 (4) - Ctrl+g this. This could be subject to change later, but it looks fine with this change for now.
01:38:464 (5) - Have (5) moved to the left instead. I'm going to assume this should be ctrl+g'd.
01:38:764 (6) - Then ctrl+g this :3 Changed.

01:39:064 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - As for this combo. This is my arrangement. you can try to do something similar to this. I disagree with this rhythm.


01:50:464 (3) - ctrl+g this Changed.
01:50:764 (4) - ctrl+g That would mess up the pattern here. Also adds emphasize to the held out note.
wallah xDD
You have to remap the following parts tho :<

02:13:714 (2) - In this case, move this note to the right instead of having it blanket I moved it, but why would this require a remap?
02:40:864 (2) - rotate by 20 to 25 degree. Then it the slider's end blanket with (1). 02:41:164 (3) - ctrl+g this. and blanket it with the (2)'s head Changed.
02:48:364 (3,4,5,1) - Leave this here, I think this part needs to be remapped. But I can't find a good solution for it atm

There are many flow issues in this one, otherwise there would have been fewer lines from me.

Noffy wrote:

Ayyri look HERE when you live
00:20:764 (3) - This repeat slider feels a bit out of place, I suggest changing it into to sliders, where the first ends on the blue tick before the downbeat silence that blue tick then have another slider on the downbeat, would feel a lot better. doro think of a change while i'm at school, thanks. <3

00:27:064 (2,3,4) - I have a thing against these types of patterns because they're awkward and can possibly be hard to read. (depends) birds are hard to read too.

02:11:014 (7,8) - This feels a bit janky to play considering your current flow in the map that you have, please consider changing this. Changed to two circles for now.
Ayyri
Ayyri
DORO LOOK HERE WHEN YOU LIVE
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Noffy
Nomination Assessment Team
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Joined April 2012
Topic Starter
Noffy
Gee, with all this, I feel I deserve a kudosu.
But a mapper can't give themselves kudosu on his/her own map...
or CAN THEY?
*throws a star*
There now I've essentially given myself kudosu, proving that it is possible.


posting this stuff here because transparency on any and all changes this map experiences

[Stuff from my PMs with Ayyri concerning Collabird after mod applications]

02:11:014 (7,8) - This feels a bit janky to play considering your current flow in the map that you have, please consider changing this. Changed to two circles for now.
Further changed to make 6,7 stack and 8,9 stack because going note, two note stack, back to another note under the first I found to be confusing to read. Also added hs :3

01:38:164 (4) - Ctrl+g this. This could be subject to change later, but it looks fine with this change for now.
01:38:464 (5) - Have (5) moved to the left instead. I'm going to assume this should be ctrl+g'd.
01:38:764 (6) - Then ctrl+g this :3 Changed.
What Asaiga meant by these changes was making something like this->
which I kind of disagreed with as it made the flow into the next combo very odd, and would create jumps that would not be present in other repetitions of this rhythm in the map.
The loopity-loop kind of flow is also there for the majority of the suggested changes.

er wait nevermind rip, the change Ayyri made seemed nice enough in the editor ;-; but...


it's slider break death in play
changed back to the way it originally was for now.

00:42:064 (1,2) - changed this back to how it was for now because why on earth would a 4.0 jump ever fit in the calmest part of the song :< , and changing it just part way through the suggestion was odd. The screenshot below it was meant to show what it would look like making that change + changing the patterns afterwords too.
-> but then the change in flow in the screenshot from 2 to 3 would be very very odd.

Red + yellow draw out the intended flow, with yellow being where it gets wonky because of 3 producing a severe direction change and 3's movement to 4 being cramped compared to the movement between 1 and 2.


Instead after seeing this, plus looking at Asaiga's suggestion again, I made a different change to hopefully fix up the flow between 1 and 2 ->


-Changed 1 to blanket the head of 2. Re ctrl+g'd 2 so that the lower part of 2 is the head.
Now 1,2 plays similarly to 3,4 even if they don't look the same.



00:20:764 (3) - Ended up changing the area with the reverse slider to be like this ->



[Chat Log with Jonawaga about Light Insane]
Chat
17:05 Jonawaga: upload attempt #2!
17:05 Noffy: begin!
17:06 Noffy: it takes a while since the video is so big
17:06 Noffy: aa
17:06 Jonawaga: I see
17:06 Noffy: distributing!!!....
17:07 Noffy: hoorah!
17:07 Jonawaga: ^_^
17:07 *Noffy is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/997994 Toraboruta - Soleil [~waga's Light Insane]]
17:07 Noffy: before I start
17:08 Noffy: I'll clarify 99% of what I say is personal preference to the extreme
17:08 Jonawaga: Ayyri is talking in the group chat ^^
17:08 Jonawaga: lol same
17:08 Noffy: gasp
17:08 Noffy: and that Collabird was originally
17:08 Noffy: just Ayyri's insane
17:09 Noffy: and then the fire nation attacked ;; (aka me)
17:09 Jonawaga: lol
17:09 Jonawaga: gasp
17:09 Jonawaga: should we talk to Ayyri or... ?
17:10 Noffy: I'll ask her to take a look at it later as well if that's alright?
17:10 Noffy: she's still in skool
17:10 Jonawaga: sure ^^
17:10 Noffy: but yes do respond in group chat
17:10 Jonawaga: nvm about the group chat
17:10 Noffy: ^^
17:10 Jonawaga: it was sent 3 hours ago
17:10 Noffy: alwaysopen to response
17:12 Jonawaga: finished dowloading!!!!
17:13 Noffy: !!
17:15 Noffy: ready and rarin' to go?
17:15 Jonawaga: yes yes yes
17:16 Noffy: 00:13:564 (3) - Maybe move it up a bit, it looks weird to go down when the end of (2) was pointing up
17:17 Noffy: 00:14:164 (5,1) - I can see why these two are stacked but I think having them manually stacked so that (1) starts above and to theleft of 5 would look better -> [http://puu.sh/plJEu/8fd84410ae.jpg dah]
17:17 Noffy: also 98% of this is very minor
17:18 Jonawaga: fixed the first one
17:18 Jonawaga: I don't see the problem with stacking...
17:19 Noffy: the automatic stacking puts (1) weirdly slightly under (5)
17:19 Noffy: stacking in general isn't a problem
17:19 Noffy: it makes sense, those notes are very close
17:21 Jonawaga: http://puu.sh/plJTA/f35ac4740c.jpg hm?
17:21 Noffy: yessu that looks nice
17:21 Jonawaga: okii
17:24 Noffy: 00:18:064 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I'm not sure exactly what to say for this part, as it looks fine in editor
17:24 Noffy: but didn't play too well
17:26 Jonawaga: most likely a flow problem...
17:26 Noffy: maybe.. hm
17:26 Noffy: oh wait before that
17:26 Noffy: 00:17:164 (3,4,5) - I see why you have these as sliders
17:26 Noffy: 00:17:764 (5,6,1) -  but if you also want to map that triple
17:28 Noffy: then > http://puu.sh/plKpN/2a185427e9.jpg might work better, as currently it starts on (5)'s slider end
17:30 Jonawaga: uh
17:30 Jonawaga: placement?
17:31 Noffy: hm
17:31 Noffy: puushing that
17:31 Noffy: puush being slow aa
17:31 Noffy: http://puu.sh/plKE2/baac76e450.jpg I put it as this
17:32 Noffy: so that it still maintains syymmetries
17:33 Jonawaga: ok
17:33 Jonawaga: for the next part
17:34 Jonawaga: http://puu.sh/plKNC/c94fba1e2c.jpg hm?
17:34 Noffy: I'd move 4 a bit to the left but other than that yes
17:35 Jonawaga: for the next part/
17:35 Jonawaga: http://puu.sh/plKVZ/5ec9c2976e.jpg
17:36 Jonawaga: hmmmmmmmmmmm
17:36 Noffy: also nice
17:36 Noffy: and then that blankets 00:19:864 (1) -  ?
17:36 Jonawaga: si
17:36 Noffy: I sees
17:36 Noffy: speaking of 00:19:864 (1) - maybe a simple wave would work better
17:37 Noffy: there isn't in my opinion the right kind of sound for its current shape
17:39 Jonawaga: puu.sh/plLb0/e4499a2871.jpg
17:39 Jonawaga: http://puu.sh/plLb0/e4499a2871.jpg
17:39 Jonawaga: i usually don't give that much thought to these things...
17:40 Noffy: which things?
17:40 Jonawaga: the shapes of sliders
17:40 Noffy: really? aww
17:40 Noffy: but they always have so much potential \o/
17:41 Jonawaga: true
17:41 Noffy: > http://puu.sh/plLiE/4dd4007b12.jpg like hua maybe
17:41 Noffy: after mapping a beginner or r9
17:41 Noffy: I grew excessively picky about slider shapes, since that's 90% of how a beginner maps a song
17:42 Jonawaga: that explains why your beginners are soo good
17:42 Jonawaga: fixed btw~
17:43 Noffy: yay~
17:43 Noffy: speaking of which, I was never able to make a beginner for this song (I recall you asked if I was going to make one 900 years ago)
17:44 Jonawaga: yeah ^^;
17:44 Jonawaga: continue
17:44 Noffy: not sure if it's the song itself or 3/4 in general, but it just didn't have any fitting things
17:44 Noffy: hmm
17:45 Jonawaga: probably the song
17:45 Noffy: 00:22:564 (1) -  trying to figure out what to suggest here
17:45 Jonawaga: that shape is beautiful >.>
17:45 Noffy: on its own yea
17:46 Noffy: 00:22:564 (1,2,3,4) -  but all together these end up, a bit "heavy" on the right side?
17:46 Noffy: since 4 is going up in the same area as the longer side of (1)
17:46 Noffy: not sure how to phrase..
17:47 Jonawaga: poor flow
17:48 Jonawaga: can be fixed with Ctrl+h
17:49 Jonawaga: http://puu.sh/plLOs/db40463fa3.jpg
17:49 Noffy: if you do with ctrl+h, consider rotating (4)  maybe -18 degrees
17:49 Noffy: oh wait
17:49 Noffy: you ctrl g'd 4 too
17:49 Noffy: aa
17:50 Jonawaga: blanket is fixed along with it
17:50 Noffy: oh I sees
17:50 Noffy: alright
17:50 Noffy: 00:27:964 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - a.) the flow for this combo is a bit off, methinks
17:50 Noffy: 00:28:564 (3,4) -  another spot deserving of manual stack
17:51 Noffy: - rephrasing, mostly 00:29:314 (5,6,1) -  here is the flow off
17:52 Noffy: 00:28:564 (3,4) -  can be fixed by rotating (3) 4 degrees
17:52 Noffy: that way it still blankets 2 and voila stack
17:53 Jonawaga: fixed fixed fixed
17:53 Jonawaga: Ctrl+h a lot of things...
17:55 Noffy: 00:32:464 (1) - somethingsomethingslidertheoryhere maybe a shape like thiswould be nicer -> - - - http://puu.sh/plMeh/90f313a799.jpg
17:55 Noffy: (also look it mirror 6 yay)
17:58 Jonawaga: fixedesuyay
17:58 Jonawaga: continueplz
17:59 Noffy: 00:45:814 (5) - how about put somewhere between the notes before and after like x:342 y:29?
17:59 Noffy: I almost failed to notice it in comparison to HEY SLIDERS GOING TO SLIDER- maybe that's just my bad attention but
18:00 Jonawaga: lol it's my fault though~
18:01 Jonawaga: 00:51:364 (1) - can I make this pink for breast cancer awareness plz?
18:01 Noffy: why are we breast cancer awareness tho hahaha
18:01 Noffy: eh, sure, as long as you keep 00:58:564 (1) -  yellow
18:02 Jonawaga: yup sure ^^
18:02 Noffy: else I'd cry and have to recolor the ncs afterwards all again
18:02 Noffy: (not really cry but "gaaaa")
18:02 Jonawaga: lol
18:02 Jonawaga: *noises of frustration*
18:04 Noffy: 00:47:764 (1,2) - I really expected this to continue making the diamond 00:46:864 (3,4,5) -  was starting
18:05 Noffy: http://puu.sh/plMQa/5a279152d0.jpg maybe
18:05 Noffy: (although that'd be rip to the pretty BIRD TRIPLE BLANKETEERS)
18:06 Jonawaga: if you want you can make a "dead patterns" box in the map description
18:06 Noffy: oh gosh aaa
18:06 Noffy: I used to have a difficulty when I was making hard
18:07 Jonawaga: for when you change pattern you know you're gonna miss
18:07 Noffy: "slider storage" 
18:07 Noffy: for every slider I made that didn't make it into the map
18:07 Jonawaga: yesss
18:07 Noffy: I later lost it when my hard drive died, but that was basically what it was
18:07 Jonawaga: aw ;_;
18:07 Noffy: a wealth of slider art, lost.
18:07 Noffy: foreverr
18:08 Jonawaga: fixed~
18:08 Jonawaga: continue~
18:10 Noffy: 00:59:164 (3,4,5) - I think having the stack and then a big jump may make it a bit easier to miss
18:11 Jonawaga: well yeah >>
18:11 Jonawaga: it's for difficulty...
18:11 Noffy: hmm..
18:11 Noffy: that, paired with how close it is vertically is a bit uncomfortable let me think
18:12 Jonawaga: okay..
18:12 Jonawaga: jump removed~
18:12 Noffy: oh wait, a bit cramped
18:12 Jonawaga: hm?
18:12 Noffy: instead of removing the jump maybe this'll work -> 
18:13 Noffy: - argh I'm sorry puush is being super slow ;;
18:13 Jonawaga: t_t
18:13 Noffy: I should really start using something else it's always like this
18:13 Noffy: still puushing...
18:14 Noffy: [http://puu.sh/plNpq/3bb12b560f.jpg AT LAST]
18:14 Jonawaga: you coulda just said raise 1 and lower 5 ._.
18:15 Noffy: ..
18:15 Noffy: oh true ;-;
18:15 Jonawaga: fixed~
18:15 Jonawaga: continue
18:16 Noffy: 01:13:864 (5,6,7,1,2,3) -  shiny
18:16 Noffy: I had to compliment that it's so shiny
18:16 Jonawaga: thanks?
18:17 Noffy: mostly my problems were at the start
18:17 Noffy: they sorted themselves out afterwords
18:17 Jonawaga: yay desu
18:17 Noffy: 01:39:364 (2,5) -  overlap aa
18:18 Jonawaga: forgive me for i have sinned
18:18 Jonawaga: fixed
18:18 Noffy: 01:42:664 (1) - 01:42:664 (1,4,5) -  aaa
18:19 Jonawaga: fixed
18:19 Noffy: looking at the rest right now
18:19 Noffy: though the main thing I'd say is reduce the frequency of these 01:52:564 (3,4,5) -  and it's all shiny
18:20 Jonawaga: 01:52:114 (2,3) - cries
18:20 Jonawaga: it also overlaps
18:20 Noffy: why tears
18:20 Noffy: aaa
18:20 Noffy: 01:56:164 (4,5,6,7) -  the placement of 4-6 feels a bit random aa
18:21 Noffy: (with 5 bieng under a slider making it doubly confusing)
18:21 Jonawaga: true
18:21 Noffy: 02:00:364 (5) -  ctrl+g on this may flow better
18:22 Jonawaga: fixed
18:22 Jonawaga: http://puu.sh/plNYx/b4acddb4c8.jpg
18:23 Noffy: yay~ :D
18:25 Noffy: and that's it for now, methinks
18:25 Noffy: though I'll play it excessively in the future probably,
18:25 Noffy: notice other things that could be changed/improved probably, 
18:25 Noffy: and be at this again, probably.
18:26 Noffy: and if between then and now there's a stray "update beatmap" button that's either the result of my changing tags (I forgot to add the japanese for rin and len's names before), hitsounds, or both.
18:27 Jonawaga: okay ^^
18:27 Noffy: \^^
18:27 Jonawaga: I'm removing the frequency of
18:27 Jonawaga: 02:55:564 - this
18:27 Noffy: huzzah \o/
18:27 Noffy: I'll go look see if I have any screenshots of hard's old sliders left
18:28 Jonawaga: okay ^^'
18:28 Noffy: oh wait, here's one from [http://puu.sh/p9qZE/a2a54f0060.jpg collabird]
18:28 Jonawaga: :3
18:28 Noffy: it was telling Ahri not to map there because of my need to repeat the beginning but flipped for the end
18:28 Noffy: and it aCTUALLY FIT...
18:30 Jonawaga: lol
18:31 Noffy: oh no it seems puush got rid of most of the other's screenshots
18:31 Jonawaga: aw
18:31 Noffy: I may have copies... somewhere..
18:31 Jonawaga: good luck finding them
18:31 Noffy: thank yoou
18:31 Jonawaga: I got rid of some of 02:55:564 - these
18:31 Jonawaga: i kept this one
18:32 Noffy: alrights o/
18:32 Noffy: so you know
18:32 *Noffy is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/690168 Toraboruta - Soleil [Hard]]
18:32 Jonawaga: I'll send the .osu and you'll upload the chat, right?
18:32 Noffy: 01:31:864 (6) -  bird slider?
18:32 Noffy: yes I shall "I deserve mean kds for this but I can't kds myself."
18:33 Jonawaga: that's a bird?
18:33 Jonawaga: it look like a whale
18:33 Noffy: kind of a bird yeah
18:33 Noffy: left side, head and beak
18:33 Noffy: very abstract bird
18:33 Jonawaga: okay then
18:33 Jonawaga: ...
18:33 Noffy: http://puu.sh/plOGW/2d7d9a58fd.jpg
18:34 Noffy: http://puu.sh/plOI0/b79aab67b7.jpg
18:34 Noffy: http://puu.sh/plOJ4/6b1148f2fa.jpg
18:34 Noffy: its many previous forms
18:35 Jonawaga: oooooo
18:36 Jonawaga: I see the bird a little now
18:36 Noffy: and before I gave up and added a spinner in the end, I tried very hard to make it fit http://puu.sh/plOOH/cab3a49658.jpg as a slider
18:36 Noffy: yaay
18:36 Jonawaga: woah
18:36 Jonawaga: 10/10
18:36 Jonawaga: check ur pm
18:36 Noffy: was meant to be a sun 9/9
18:36 Noffy: oki sec
Ayyri
Ayyri
JON LOOK HERE WHEN YOU LIVE
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: ----------------------------
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: start of mod HERE
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: 00:18:064 (1) - 
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: this looks overly curvy
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: 00:21:589 (4,5) - 00:21:589 (4,5) - 
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: these should be placed more evenly
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: looks messy as is
2016-06-08 19:14 Ayyri: 00:22:564 (1) - 
2016-06-08 19:14 Ayyri: this slider looks ugly
2016-06-08 19:14 Ayyri: 00:24:364 (1,2) - this reverse is kind of weird
2016-06-08 19:15 Ayyri: it doesn't pay attention to the held out note
2016-06-08 19:15 Ayyri: 00:28:564 (3,4) - have these overlap
2016-06-08 19:15 Ayyri: looks messy ;-;
2016-06-08 19:15 Ayyri: 00:14:164 (5,1) -  here to ;w;
2016-06-08 19:16 Noffy: 00:28:564 (3,4) -  see this was originally ctrl+h so stacking made it under and I suggested manual stack, which looks weird now that it's the other waay aa
2016-06-08 19:16 Ayyri: 00:32:314 - 
2016-06-08 19:16 Ayyri: there could be a note added here so this doesn't look all wonky
2016-06-08 19:16 Ayyri: or sound like 00:31:864 (6) -  is just kind of here
2016-06-08 19:17 Ayyri: 00:34:264 (1,3,4) - 
2016-06-08 19:17 Ayyri: the spacing here looks so weird
2016-06-08 19:17 Ayyri: it's not even with the rest of the spacing
2016-06-08 19:18 Ayyri: 00:38:464 (6) - 
2016-06-08 19:18 Ayyri: IF YOU MOVED THIS LIKE A SMIDGE
2016-06-08 19:19 Ayyri: IT WOULD BE A BLANKET WITH 00:38:764 (1) - 
2016-06-08 19:19 Ayyri: ;w;
2016-06-08 19:19 Noffy: ACTUALLY
2016-06-08 19:19 Noffy: IF YOU LOOK OTHER BLANKETS
2016-06-08 19:19 Noffy: THEY'RE ALL SLIGHTLY OFF ;W;
2016-06-08 19:19 Ayyri: I CAN TELL
2016-06-08 19:19 Ayyri: BUT THAT WAS REALLY OBVIOUS WHEN I PAUSED
2016-06-08 19:19 Noffy: BUT IT'S TOO EARLY FOR BLANKET MOD
2016-06-08 19:20 Ayyri: 00:41:014 (2) - this blanket is off :D
2016-06-08 19:20 Ayyri: 00:40:564 (1) -  THIS TOO
2016-06-08 19:20 Ayyri: okay I should stop --
2016-06-08 19:21 Ayyri: 00:44:764 - 
2016-06-08 19:21 Ayyri: it sounds weird to stop the rhythm here
2016-06-08 19:22 Ayyri: 00:48:214 (2) - THIS IS SLIGHTLY OFF, I LIED ABOUT STOPPING
2016-06-08 19:24 Ayyri: 00:51:364 (1) - 
2016-06-08 19:24 Ayyri: JON STOP
2016-06-08 19:24 Ayyri: BIRDS AREN'T RELATED TO BREAST CANCER
2016-06-08 19:24 Ayyri: S TOP
2016-06-08 19:25 Ayyri: from 00:57:664 -  to 00:58:414 - 
2016-06-08 19:25 Ayyri: it feels really weird to not map the lead in here
2016-06-08 19:26 Ayyri: 00:59:164 (3,4) -  it's weird to have this pattern randomly
2016-06-08 19:26 Ayyri: instead of having them stacked, 00:59:314 (4) -  could be on top of 00:59:464 (5) - 
2016-06-08 19:28 Noffy: .
2016-06-08 19:30 Ayyri: 01:02:089 (6,7) - 
2016-06-08 19:30 Ayyri: these look MESSY ;L;
2016-06-08 19:31 Ayyri: actual rhythm 01:02:314 (8,9) - this sounds very weird
2016-06-08 19:31 Ayyri: considering how you would kind of follow the vocal before
2016-06-08 19:31 Ayyri: I CAN SEE THE TEMPO RANDOMLY PICK UP
2016-06-08 19:33 Ayyri: 01:06:214 (5,6,1) - 
2016-06-08 19:33 Noffy: RIP CALL?
2016-06-08 19:33 Ayyri: this - oh fuck
2016-06-08 19:33 Ayyri: let me recall-
2016-06-08 19:33 Ayyri: NEVERMIND
2016-06-08 19:34 Ayyri: okay so 01:06:214 (5,6,1) -  this pattern really bothers me
2016-06-08 19:34 Ayyri: Having a note right after a reverse like that looks weird, and in general plays kind weird
2016-06-08 19:34 Ayyri: kind of*
2016-06-08 19:35 Ayyri: 01:08:914 (2,3,4) - I have the same problem with this pattern as the first time this occured
2016-06-08 19:35 Ayyri: ;-;
2016-06-08 19:35 Ayyri: 01:11:989 (6,7) -  messy :c
2016-06-08 19:38 Ayyri: 01:13:414 (2,3,4) -  same thing with this pattern ;c;
2016-06-08 19:38 Ayyri: 01:16:114 (5,6,1) -  THIS PATTERN TOO
2016-06-08 19:38 Ayyri: 01:21:889 (3,4) - MESSY ;L;
2016-06-08 19:38 Noffy: 01:13:864 (5,6,7,1,2) -  this pattern turns me on it's sexy tho
2016-06-08 19:39 Ayyri: okay yes
2016-06-08 19:39 Ayyri: i thought that was very nice
2016-06-08 19:39 Ayyri: 01:22:264 (5) - this note 01:07:564 (4,5,6) - 
2016-06-08 19:39 Noffy: 01:47:164 (4,5,6) -
2016-06-08 19:40 Ayyri: hold
2016-06-08 19:40 Ayyri: 01:22:264 (5) -  this note just kind of sounds like it's "there" right now
2016-06-08 19:40 Ayyri: ;-;
2016-06-08 19:40 Ayyri: (I get what it's following, but a slider might be better -- )
2016-06-08 19:41 Ayyri: 01:25:414 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - 
2016-06-08 19:41 Ayyri: your spacing just got randomly really wonky here
2016-06-08 19:41 Ayyri: please fix ;;
2016-06-08 19:41 Ayyri: 01:28:264 (1,2,3,4) - this spacing is also weird
2016-06-08 19:42 Ayyri: 01:31:864 (1) - WHAT THE HELL IS THIS
2016-06-08 19:42 Ayyri: I EXPECTED SOMETHING REALLY ELEGANT
2016-06-08 19:43 Ayyri: (but the curves look REALLY NICE)
2016-06-08 19:44 Ayyri: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5346807
2016-06-08 19:44 Ayyri: before
2016-06-08 19:45 Ayyri: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5346810
2016-06-08 19:45 Ayyri: AFTER
2016-06-08 19:45 Ayyri: 01:35:464 (1,2) - 
2016-06-08 19:46 Ayyri: this sounds very weird rhythmically because the opening of the kiai is a VERY IMPORTANT held out vocal 
2016-06-08 19:47 Ayyri: 01:36:364 (4,5,6) -  this too. it feels like you're doing too many short sliders just for the sake of it. ;-;
2016-06-08 19:47 Ayyri: (when the vocal is HELD OUT TOO. ;; )
2016-06-08 19:48 Noffy: -> SAYS AHRI
2016-06-08 19:48 Ayyri: 01:39:964 (4,5,6) -  ^
2016-06-08 19:48 Ayyri: p LEASE
2016-06-08 19:48 Ayyri: I changed my style just for collabird
2016-06-08 19:48 Ayyri: (^:
2016-06-08 19:48 Noffy: :^)
2016-06-08 19:49 Ayyri: 01:42:664 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -  this too. ;w;
2016-06-08 19:49 Ayyri: 01:44:464 (1) - I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH THIS SLIDER
2016-06-08 19:51 Ayyri: 01:47:164 (4) - THIS IS PROBABLY THE CLOSEST THING TO A BLANKET I'VE SEEN IN THIS DIFFICULTY SO FAR
2016-06-08 19:51 Ayyri: actually 01:47:164 (4,1) -  makes more sense ;;
2016-06-08 19:51 Ayyri: THERE'S THE BLANKET :D
2016-06-08 19:51 Ayyri: ./i found it/
2016-06-08 19:52 Ayyri: 01:51:664 (1,2) - this looks pretty too
2016-06-08 19:53 Ayyri: 01:49:864 (1,2,3) - this feels lacking in energy. ;w; (but apparently you don't like the vocal. ;; )
2016-06-08 19:54 Ayyri: 01:56:164 (4,5,6) - the spacing here got randomly really close ;;
2016-06-08 19:54 Noffy: 01:08:464 (1,2,3) -
2016-06-08 19:54 Noffy: 01:42:664 (1,2,3) -
2016-06-08 19:54 Ayyri: 01:57:064 (1,2,3) - lacking here too. ;;
2016-06-08 19:54 Noffy: (ignore me, Jon.)
2016-06-08 19:55 Ayyri: 02:03:814 - a note could be added here for flow reasons
2016-06-08 19:55 Ayyri: sounds kind of empty here ;;
2016-06-08 19:59 Ayyri: 02:42:064 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - whatever this is, it looks pretty
2016-06-08 20:00 Noffy: http://puu.sh/pm2Ui/50b4d45db6.jpg
2016-06-08 20:00 Ayyri: (it looks like a beetle)
2016-06-08 20:00 Ayyri: THAT'S CLOSE THOUGH
2016-06-08 20:01 Noffy: YES
2016-06-08 20:02 Ayyri: 02:54:664 (1,2,3) - this feels lacking in energy too
2016-06-08 20:03 Ayyri: (also i just think the first kiai for this section is very full of short sliders, but i can see why because you're mapping to the very weird background noise and NOT THE VOCAL. WHICH EVERY OTHER DIFFICULTY IS FOLLOWING...)
2016-06-08 20:05 Ayyri: in general:
2016-06-08 20:05 Ayyri: THE MAP DOESN'T NEED TO BE JUST ONE BIG SYMMETRICAL BLOB.
2016-06-08 20:05 Ayyri: ):<
2016-06-08 20:06 Ayyri: (also indicate when you change between flute and guitar, because they're two very different instruments to follow)
Jonarwhal
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Jonarwhal

Ayyri wrote:

JON LOOK HERE WHEN YOU LIVE
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: ----------------------------
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: start of mod HERE
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: 00:18:064 (1) -
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: this looks overly curvy
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: 00:21:589 (4,5) - 00:21:589 (4,5) -
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: these should be placed more evenly
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: looks messy as is
2016-06-08 19:14 Ayyri: 00:22:564 (1) -
2016-06-08 19:14 Ayyri: this slider looks ugly
2016-06-08 19:14 Ayyri: 00:24:364 (1,2) - this reverse is kind of weird
2016-06-08 19:15 Ayyri: it doesn't pay attention to the held out note
2016-06-08 19:15 Ayyri: 00:28:564 (3,4) - have these overlap
2016-06-08 19:15 Ayyri: looks messy ;-;
2016-06-08 19:15 Ayyri: 00:14:164 (5,1) - here to ;w;
2016-06-08 19:16 Noffy: 00:28:564 (3,4) - see this was originally ctrl+h so stacking made it under and I suggested manual stack, which looks weird now that it's the other waay aa
2016-06-08 19:16 Ayyri: 00:32:314 -
2016-06-08 19:16 Ayyri: there could be a note added here so this doesn't look all wonky
2016-06-08 19:16 Ayyri: or sound like 00:31:864 (6) - is just kind of here
2016-06-08 19:17 Ayyri: 00:34:264 (1,3,4) -
2016-06-08 19:17 Ayyri: the spacing here looks so weird
2016-06-08 19:17 Ayyri: it's not even with the rest of the spacing
2016-06-08 19:18 Ayyri: 00:38:464 (6) -
2016-06-08 19:18 Ayyri: IF YOU MOVED THIS LIKE A SMIDGE
2016-06-08 19:19 Ayyri: IT WOULD BE A BLANKET WITH 00:38:764 (1) -
2016-06-08 19:19 Ayyri: ;w;
2016-06-08 19:19 Noffy: ACTUALLY
2016-06-08 19:19 Noffy: IF YOU LOOK OTHER BLANKETS
2016-06-08 19:19 Noffy: THEY'RE ALL SLIGHTLY OFF ;W;
2016-06-08 19:19 Ayyri: I CAN TELL
2016-06-08 19:19 Ayyri: BUT THAT WAS REALLY OBVIOUS WHEN I PAUSED
2016-06-08 19:19 Noffy: BUT IT'S TOO EARLY FOR BLANKET MOD
2016-06-08 19:20 Ayyri: 00:41:014 (2) - this blanket is off :D
2016-06-08 19:20 Ayyri: 00:40:564 (1) - THIS TOO
2016-06-08 19:20 Ayyri: okay I should stop --
2016-06-08 19:21 Ayyri: 00:44:764 -
2016-06-08 19:21 Ayyri: it sounds weird to stop the rhythm here
2016-06-08 19:22 Ayyri: 00:48:214 (2) - THIS IS SLIGHTLY OFF, I LIED ABOUT STOPPING
2016-06-08 19:24 Ayyri: 00:51:364 (1) -
2016-06-08 19:24 Ayyri: JON STOP
2016-06-08 19:24 Ayyri: BIRDS AREN'T RELATED TO BREAST CANCER
2016-06-08 19:24 Ayyri: S TOP
2016-06-08 19:25 Ayyri: from 00:57:664 - to 00:58:414 -
2016-06-08 19:25 Ayyri: it feels really weird to not map the lead in here
2016-06-08 19:26 Ayyri: 00:59:164 (3,4) - it's weird to have this pattern randomly
2016-06-08 19:26 Ayyri: instead of having them stacked, 00:59:314 (4) - could be on top of 00:59:464 (5) -
2016-06-08 19:28 Noffy: .
2016-06-08 19:30 Ayyri: 01:02:089 (6,7) -
2016-06-08 19:30 Ayyri: these look MESSY ;L;
2016-06-08 19:31 Ayyri: actual rhythm 01:02:314 (8,9) - this sounds very weird
2016-06-08 19:31 Ayyri: considering how you would kind of follow the vocal before
2016-06-08 19:31 Ayyri: I CAN SEE THE TEMPO RANDOMLY PICK UP
2016-06-08 19:33 Ayyri: 01:06:214 (5,6,1) -
2016-06-08 19:33 Noffy: RIP CALL?
2016-06-08 19:33 Ayyri: this - oh fuck
2016-06-08 19:33 Ayyri: let me recall-
2016-06-08 19:33 Ayyri: NEVERMIND
2016-06-08 19:34 Ayyri: okay so 01:06:214 (5,6,1) - this pattern really bothers me
2016-06-08 19:34 Ayyri: Having a note right after a reverse like that looks weird, and in general plays kind weird
2016-06-08 19:34 Ayyri: kind of*
2016-06-08 19:35 Ayyri: 01:08:914 (2,3,4) - I have the same problem with this pattern as the first time this occured
2016-06-08 19:35 Ayyri: ;-;
2016-06-08 19:35 Ayyri: 01:11:989 (6,7) - messy :c
2016-06-08 19:38 Ayyri: 01:13:414 (2,3,4) - same thing with this pattern ;c;
2016-06-08 19:38 Ayyri: 01:16:114 (5,6,1) - THIS PATTERN TOO
2016-06-08 19:38 Ayyri: 01:21:889 (3,4) - MESSY ;L;
2016-06-08 19:38 Noffy: 01:13:864 (5,6,7,1,2) - this pattern turns me on it's sexy tho
2016-06-08 19:39 Ayyri: okay yes
2016-06-08 19:39 Ayyri: i thought that was very nice
2016-06-08 19:39 Ayyri: 01:22:264 (5) - this note 01:07:564 (4,5,6) -
2016-06-08 19:39 Noffy: 01:47:164 (4,5,6) -
2016-06-08 19:40 Ayyri: hold
2016-06-08 19:40 Ayyri: 01:22:264 (5) - this note just kind of sounds like it's "there" right now
2016-06-08 19:40 Ayyri: ;-;
2016-06-08 19:40 Ayyri: (I get what it's following, but a slider might be better -- )
2016-06-08 19:41 Ayyri: 01:25:414 (3,4,5,1,2,3) -
2016-06-08 19:41 Ayyri: your spacing just got randomly really wonky here
2016-06-08 19:41 Ayyri: please fix ;;
2016-06-08 19:41 Ayyri: 01:28:264 (1,2,3,4) - this spacing is also weird
2016-06-08 19:42 Ayyri: 01:31:864 (1) - WHAT THE HELL IS THIS
2016-06-08 19:42 Ayyri: I EXPECTED SOMETHING REALLY ELEGANT
2016-06-08 19:43 Ayyri: (but the curves look REALLY NICE)
2016-06-08 19:44 Ayyri: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5346807
2016-06-08 19:44 Ayyri: before
2016-06-08 19:45 Ayyri: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5346810
2016-06-08 19:45 Ayyri: AFTER
2016-06-08 19:45 Ayyri: 01:35:464 (1,2) -
2016-06-08 19:46 Ayyri: this sounds very weird rhythmically because the opening of the kiai is a VERY IMPORTANT held out vocal
2016-06-08 19:47 Ayyri: 01:36:364 (4,5,6) - this too. it feels like you're doing too many short sliders just for the sake of it. ;-;
2016-06-08 19:47 Ayyri: (when the vocal is HELD OUT TOO. ;; )
2016-06-08 19:48 Noffy: -> SAYS AHRI
2016-06-08 19:48 Ayyri: 01:39:964 (4,5,6) - ^
2016-06-08 19:48 Ayyri: p LEASE
2016-06-08 19:48 Ayyri: I changed my style just for collabird
2016-06-08 19:48 Ayyri: (^:
2016-06-08 19:48 Noffy: :^)
2016-06-08 19:49 Ayyri: 01:42:664 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this too. ;w;
2016-06-08 19:49 Ayyri: 01:44:464 (1) - I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH THIS SLIDER
2016-06-08 19:51 Ayyri: 01:47:164 (4) - THIS IS PROBABLY THE CLOSEST THING TO A BLANKET I'VE SEEN IN THIS DIFFICULTY SO FAR
2016-06-08 19:51 Ayyri: actually 01:47:164 (4,1) - makes more sense ;;
2016-06-08 19:51 Ayyri: THERE'S THE BLANKET :D
2016-06-08 19:51 Ayyri: ./i found it/
2016-06-08 19:52 Ayyri: 01:51:664 (1,2) - this looks pretty too
2016-06-08 19:53 Ayyri: 01:49:864 (1,2,3) - this feels lacking in energy. ;w; (but apparently you don't like the vocal. ;; )
2016-06-08 19:54 Ayyri: 01:56:164 (4,5,6) - the spacing here got randomly really close ;;
2016-06-08 19:54 Noffy: 01:08:464 (1,2,3) -
2016-06-08 19:54 Noffy: 01:42:664 (1,2,3) -
2016-06-08 19:54 Ayyri: 01:57:064 (1,2,3) - lacking here too. ;;
2016-06-08 19:54 Noffy: (ignore me, Jon.)
2016-06-08 19:55 Ayyri: 02:03:814 - a note could be added here for flow reasons
2016-06-08 19:55 Ayyri: sounds kind of empty here ;;
2016-06-08 19:59 Ayyri: 02:42:064 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - whatever this is, it looks pretty
2016-06-08 20:00 Noffy: http://puu.sh/pm2Ui/50b4d45db6.jpg
2016-06-08 20:00 Ayyri: (it looks like a beetle)
2016-06-08 20:00 Ayyri: THAT'S CLOSE THOUGH
2016-06-08 20:01 Noffy: YES
2016-06-08 20:02 Ayyri: 02:54:664 (1,2,3) - this feels lacking in energy too
2016-06-08 20:03 Ayyri: (also i just think the first kiai for this section is very full of short sliders, but i can see why because you're mapping to the very weird background noise and NOT THE VOCAL. WHICH EVERY OTHER DIFFICULTY IS FOLLOWING...)
2016-06-08 20:05 Ayyri: in general:
2016-06-08 20:05 Ayyri: THE MAP DOESN'T NEED TO BE JUST ONE BIG SYMMETRICAL BLOB.
2016-06-08 20:05 Ayyri: ):<
2016-06-08 20:06 Ayyri: (also indicate when you change between flute and guitar, because they're two very different instruments to follow)
Jonarwhal
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Jonarwhal

Ayyri wrote:

JON LOOK HERE WHEN YOU LIVE
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: ----------------------------
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: start of mod HERE
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: 00:18:064 (1) -
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: this looks overly curvy I changed the shape~
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: 00:21:589 (4,5) - 00:21:589 (4,5) -
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: these should be placed more evenly Please explain how to fix.
2016-06-08 19:13 Ayyri: looks messy as is
2016-06-08 19:14 Ayyri: 00:22:564 (1) - Idk if this is an improvement but there ya go
2016-06-08 19:14 Ayyri: this slider looks ugly
2016-06-08 19:14 Ayyri: 00:24:364 (1,2) - this reverse is kind of weird
2016-06-08 19:15 Ayyri: it doesn't pay attention to the held out note Fixed~
2016-06-08 19:15 Ayyri: 00:28:564 (3,4) - have these overlap Fixed~
2016-06-08 19:15 Ayyri: looks messy ;-;
2016-06-08 19:15 Ayyri: 00:14:164 (5,1) - here too ;w; Fixed~
2016-06-08 19:16 Noffy: 00:28:564 (3,4) - see this was originally ctrl+h so stacking made it under and I suggested manual stack, which looks weird now that it's the other waay aa
2016-06-08 19:16 Ayyri: 00:32:314 -
2016-06-08 19:16 Ayyri: there could be a note added here so this doesn't look all wonky
2016-06-08 19:16 Ayyri: or sound like 00:31:864 (6) - is just kind of here Fixed~
2016-06-08 19:17 Ayyri: 00:34:264 (1,3,4) -
2016-06-08 19:17 Ayyri: the spacing here looks so weird
2016-06-08 19:17 Ayyri: it's not even with the rest of the spacing Fixed~
2016-06-08 19:18 Ayyri: 00:38:464 (6) -
2016-06-08 19:18 Ayyri: IF YOU MOVED THIS LIKE A SMIDGE
2016-06-08 19:19 Ayyri: IT WOULD BE A BLANKET WITH 00:38:764 (1) -
2016-06-08 19:19 Ayyri: ;w;
2016-06-08 19:19 Noffy: ACTUALLY
2016-06-08 19:19 Noffy: IF YOU LOOK OTHER BLANKETS
2016-06-08 19:19 Noffy: THEY'RE ALL SLIGHTLY OFF ;W;
2016-06-08 19:19 Ayyri: I CAN TELL
2016-06-08 19:19 Ayyri: BUT THAT WAS REALLY OBVIOUS WHEN I PAUSED
2016-06-08 19:19 Noffy: BUT IT'S TOO EARLY FOR BLANKET MOD Fixed anyway~
2016-06-08 19:20 Ayyri: 00:41:014 (2) - this blanket is off :D Fixed~
2016-06-08 19:20 Ayyri: 00:40:564 (1) - THIS TOO Fixed~
2016-06-08 19:20 Ayyri: okay I should stop --
2016-06-08 19:21 Ayyri: 00:44:764 -
2016-06-08 19:21 Ayyri: it sounds weird to stop the rhythm here Fixed~
2016-06-08 19:22 Ayyri: 00:48:214 (2) - THIS IS SLIGHTLY OFF, I LIED ABOUT STOPPING Fixed~ (I think)
2016-06-08 19:24 Ayyri: 00:51:364 (1) - Fixed~
2016-06-08 19:24 Ayyri: JON STOP
2016-06-08 19:24 Ayyri: BIRDS AREN'T RELATED TO BREAST CANCER no change
2016-06-08 19:24 Ayyri: S TOP
2016-06-08 19:25 Ayyri: from 00:57:664 - to 00:58:414 -
2016-06-08 19:25 Ayyri: it feels really weird to not map the lead in here Fixed~
2016-06-08 19:26 Ayyri: 00:59:164 (3,4) - it's weird to have this pattern randomly
2016-06-08 19:26 Ayyri: instead of having them stacked, 00:59:314 (4) - could be on top of 00:59:464 (5) - That is stacking... Fixed...
2016-06-08 19:28 Noffy: .
2016-06-08 19:30 Ayyri: 01:02:089 (6,7) -
2016-06-08 19:30 Ayyri: these look MESSY ;L; Please explain how to fix.
2016-06-08 19:31 Ayyri: actual rhythm 01:02:314 (8,9) - this sounds very weird
2016-06-08 19:31 Ayyri: considering how you would kind of follow the vocal before Fixed~
2016-06-08 19:31 Ayyri: I CAN SEE THE TEMPO RANDOMLY PICK UP
2016-06-08 19:33 Ayyri: 01:06:214 (5,6,1) -
2016-06-08 19:33 Noffy: RIP CALL?
2016-06-08 19:33 Ayyri: this - oh fuck
2016-06-08 19:33 Ayyri: let me recall-
2016-06-08 19:33 Ayyri: NEVERMIND
2016-06-08 19:34 Ayyri: okay so 01:06:214 (5,6,1) - this pattern really bothers me
2016-06-08 19:34 Ayyri: Having a note right after a reverse like that looks weird, and in general plays kind weird Okay, I'll just remove the reverse then.
2016-06-08 19:34 Ayyri: kind of*
2016-06-08 19:35 Ayyri: 01:08:914 (2,3,4) - I have the same problem with this pattern as the first time this occurred Fixed~
2016-06-08 19:35 Ayyri: ;-;
2016-06-08 19:35 Ayyri: 01:11:989 (6,7) - messy :c Please explain how to fix.
2016-06-08 19:38 Ayyri: 01:13:414 (2,3,4) - same thing with this pattern ;c; Fixed~
2016-06-08 19:38 Ayyri: 01:16:114 (5,6,1) - THIS PATTERN TOO Please explain how to fix.
2016-06-08 19:38 Ayyri: 01:21:889 (3,4) - MESSY ;L; ^^^
2016-06-08 19:38 Noffy: 01:13:864 (5,6,7,1,2) - this pattern turns me on it's sexy tho ^3^
2016-06-08 19:39 Ayyri: okay yes
2016-06-08 19:39 Ayyri: i thought that was very nice
2016-06-08 19:39 Ayyri: 01:22:264 (5) - this note 01:07:564 (4,5,6) -
2016-06-08 19:39 Noffy: 01:47:164 (4,5,6) -
2016-06-08 19:40 Ayyri: hold
2016-06-08 19:40 Ayyri: 01:22:264 (5) - this note just kind of sounds like it's "there" right now
2016-06-08 19:40 Ayyri: ;-;
2016-06-08 19:40 Ayyri: (I get what it's following, but a slider might be better -- ) Fixed~
2016-06-08 19:41 Ayyri: 01:25:414 (3,4,5,1,2,3) -
2016-06-08 19:41 Ayyri: your spacing just got randomly really wonky here Fixed~
2016-06-08 19:41 Ayyri: please fix ;;
2016-06-08 19:41 Ayyri: 01:28:264 (1,2,3,4) - this spacing is also weird it follows ds... ?
2016-06-08 19:42 Ayyri: 01:31:864 (1) - WHAT THE HELL IS THIS
2016-06-08 19:42 Ayyri: I EXPECTED SOMETHING REALLY ELEGANT
2016-06-08 19:43 Ayyri: (but the curves look REALLY NICE)
2016-06-08 19:44 Ayyri: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5346807
2016-06-08 19:44 Ayyri: before
2016-06-08 19:45 Ayyri: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5346810
2016-06-08 19:45 Ayyri: AFTER harder to read imo
2016-06-08 19:45 Ayyri: 01:35:464 (1,2) -
2016-06-08 19:46 Ayyri: this sounds very weird rhythmically because the opening of the kiai is a VERY IMPORTANT held out vocal
2016-06-08 19:47 Ayyri: 01:36:364 (4,5,6) - this too. it feels like you're doing too many short sliders just for the sake of it. ;-;
2016-06-08 19:47 Ayyri: (when the vocal is HELD OUT TOO. ;; )
2016-06-08 19:48 Noffy: -> SAYS AHRI no change, mapping the instruments is fine >>
2016-06-08 19:48 Ayyri: 01:39:964 (4,5,6) - ^ ^^^
2016-06-08 19:48 Ayyri: p LEASE
2016-06-08 19:48 Ayyri: I changed my style just for collabird
2016-06-08 19:48 Ayyri: (^:
2016-06-08 19:48 Noffy: :^)
2016-06-08 19:49 Ayyri: 01:42:664 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this too. ;w; If you haven't noticed, I'm repeating the rhythms...
2016-06-08 19:49 Ayyri: 01:44:464 (1) - I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH THIS SLIDER because vocals
2016-06-08 19:51 Ayyri: 01:47:164 (4) - THIS IS PROBABLY THE CLOSEST THING TO A BLANKET I'VE SEEN IN THIS DIFFICULTY SO FAR
2016-06-08 19:51 Ayyri: actually 01:47:164 (4,1) - makes more sense ;;
2016-06-08 19:51 Ayyri: THERE'S THE BLANKET :D
2016-06-08 19:51 Ayyri: ./i found it/ ^w^
2016-06-08 19:52 Ayyri: 01:51:664 (1,2) - this looks pretty too ^w^
2016-06-08 19:53 Ayyri: 01:49:864 (1,2,3) - this feels lacking in energy. ;w; (but apparently you don't like the vocal. ;; ) it's because the instruments are calm now
2016-06-08 19:54 Ayyri: 01:56:164 (4,5,6) - the spacing here got randomly really close ;; DS
2016-06-08 19:54 Noffy: 01:08:464 (1,2,3) -
2016-06-08 19:54 Noffy: 01:42:664 (1,2,3) -
2016-06-08 19:54 Ayyri: 01:57:064 (1,2,3) - lacking here too. ;; again, calm instruments
2016-06-08 19:54 Noffy: (ignore me, Jon.)
2016-06-08 19:55 Ayyri: 02:03:814 - a note could be added here for flow reasons Fixed~
2016-06-08 19:55 Ayyri: sounds kind of empty here ;;
2016-06-08 19:59 Ayyri: 02:42:064 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - whatever this is, it looks pretty it's a hexagon
2016-06-08 20:00 Noffy: http://puu.sh/pm2Ui/50b4d45db6.jpg
2016-06-08 20:00 Ayyri: (it looks like a beetle hexagon)
2016-06-08 20:00 Ayyri: THAT'S CLOSE THOUGH
2016-06-08 20:01 Noffy: YES
2016-06-08 20:02 Ayyri: 02:54:664 (1,2,3) - this feels lacking in energy too I don't have an excuse here, Fixed~
2016-06-08 20:03 Ayyri: (also i just think the first kiai for this section is very full of ashort sliders, but i can see why because you're mapping to the very weird background noise and NOT THE VOCAL. WHICH EVERY OTHER DIFFICULTY IS FOLLOWING...)
2016-06-08 20:05 Ayyri: in general:
2016-06-08 20:05 Ayyri: THE MAP DOESN'T NEED TO BE JUST ONE BIG SYMMETRICAL BLOB. yes it does
2016-06-08 20:05 Ayyri: ):< ^w^
2016-06-08 20:06 Ayyri: (also indicate when you change between flute and guitar, because they're two very different instruments to follow) kk
DORO LOOK HERE WHEN YOU LIVE
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Ayyri
Ayyri
jon the balloon slider wasn't meant to be fixed

it was actually just meant to be laughed at

BECAUSE THE SLIDER LITERALLY JUST DEFLATES WHEN YOU REMOVE TWO POINTS

also message me on Skype about what you need explained

since you weren't there, I couldn't really explain to doro how to fix it, since its not her map
Negri_sk
298 posts
Joined January 2013
Negri_sk
[Wild's Rain]
Add a circle at: 00:27:889

Also make sure that the future coming circle at 00:27:889 is gonna be a jump to 00:27:964 (1) - Because of the slightly so stronger note.
00:48:664 (6) - CTRL+G then x138 and as simple as that you make the map more flow:ish!

01:28:264 (1) - AGH what is this!? Another form of antiflow!? How dare you!? Fast, make this flow:ed with CTRL+G then moving it to the right! (choose distance yourself)

02:00:364 (5) - Tell me good sir, did you actually expect to get away with THIS!? I strive to make maps better and you still lack the skill to give such a wimpy jump a h-dash!? Not only does it fit, but it certainly does NOT fit as a non hyper! Anyhow uh, what I want you to do is move it too x412!

01:36:364 (2) - This may not make a lot of sense, but I personaly feel like this one slider is just like out in the middle of nowhere... Like going to 01:36:964 (3) - feels very much "unnatural" in a way. Basicaly, I would like you to curve the slider more, but that isn't all really, what makes this one slider so awkward to play with is that it's just way too much to the left, I recommend you moving it to the right, it doesn't need much but if you get what i'm saying i'm pretty sure you'll find the perfect place for it.

Also please for the love of god, make this HP7!
WildOne94
581 posts
Joined October 2013
WildOne94

Negri_sk wrote:

[Wild's Rain]
Add a circle at: 00:27:889 - added

Also make sure that the future coming circle at 00:27:889 is gonna be a jump to 00:27:964 (1) - Because of the slightly so stronger note. - Yep it already stayed as a jump
00:48:664 (6) - CTRL+G then x138 and as simple as that you make the map more flow:ish! - It's fine as it is.

01:28:264 (1) - AGH what is this!? Another form of antiflow!? How dare you!? Fast, make this flow:ed with CTRL+G then moving it to the right! (choose distance yourself) - It's not really anti flow when the player has a lot of time to catch it. I only very carefully moved 01:27:664 (4) - slightly right

02:00:364 (5) - Tell me good sir, did you actually expect to get away with THIS!? I strive to make maps better and you still lack the skill to give such a wimpy jump a h-dash!? Not only does it fit, but it certainly does NOT fit as a non hyper! Anyhow uh, what I want you to do is move it too x412! - Sure but don't I lack in skill :^(

01:36:364 (2) - This may not make a lot of sense, but I personaly feel like this one slider is just like out in the middle of nowhere... Like going to 01:36:964 (3) - feels very much "unnatural" in a way. Basicaly, I would like you to curve the slider more, but that isn't all really, what makes this one slider so awkward to play with is that it's just way too much to the left, I recommend you moving it to the right, it doesn't need much but if you get what i'm saying i'm pretty sure you'll find the perfect place for it. - Moved right but didn't curve.

Also please for the love of god, make this HP7! - That's more overdose HP level
Thanks for the mod :3

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_Stan
Beatmap Nominator
767 posts
Joined June 2012
_Stan
for m4m~ hey
these are my suggestions, it's up to you that change or keep yours

[Collabird]
  1. 00:11:464 (4,5,6) - how about this, cuz 00:10:864 (3,6) - get too close, don't you think?
    pic
  2. 00:15:364 (1) - it's good-looking~
  3. 00:44:164 (2,4) - the two notes get too close maybe, try this?
    pic
  4. 00:50:014 - have a sound here
  5. 00:58:264 (4) - ctrl+G make a jump? it's up to you
  6. 01:22:864 (3,4) - ds maybe not suitable, consider about flow, how about this one
    pic
  7. 01:25:414 (6,5) - make these overlap?
  8. 01:31:864 (2) - I think you can add a reverses just like this pic cuz there has a beat here 01:32:764 -
    pic
  9. 01:41:614 (4) - emm? why? 01:41:464 (3,4,5) - wht not keep same ds / same music but different design, here 01:48:664 (3,4,5) -
  10. I think music should like this, don't you think?
    pic
  11. 02:33:064 (1,2) - little close
  12. 02:46:414 (4,5,6,7) - how about
    pic
  13. 02:50:014 (3,4,5) - make 3,4,5 to triangle will be more beautiful
    pic
  14. 02:57:214 (3,4,5) - ^
  15. 03:08:164 (7) - straight meybe not good-looking, shape it?
  16. 03:35:164 (3) - i think there should be 1/3
    pic
I like your map (or this kind of style maybe?? / rank it~ xD good luck :)
Noffy
Nomination Assessment Team
1,659 posts
Joined April 2012
Topic Starter
Noffy

_Stan wrote:

for m4m~ hey
these are my suggestions, it's up to you that change or keep yours

[Collabird]
  1. 00:11:464 (4,5,6) - how about this, cuz 00:10:864 (3,6) - get too close, don't you think? Fixeds in an alternate way
    pic
  2. 00:15:364 (1) - it's good-looking~ Good :D
  3. 00:44:164 (2,4) - the two notes get too close maybe, try this? I disagree with this, they are intentionally close as the two curves are coming to a point.
    pic
  4. 00:50:014 - have a sound here I see what you mean, but this sound is very soft and harder to notice than the others which the map follow. No change.
  5. 00:58:264 (4) - ctrl+G make a jump? it's up to you I am not sure what you mean by this.
  6. 01:22:864 (3,4) - ds maybe not suitable, consider about flow, how about this one Will consider.
    pic
  7. 01:25:414 (6,5) - make these overlap? In my opinion, making these overlap is pointless as in play it's impossible to notice whether it's in a similar place or the exact same when they're never on the screen at the same time.
  8. 01:31:864 (2) - I think you can add a reverses just like this pic cuz there has a beat here 01:32:764 - The bird shall not be touched.
    pic
  9. 01:41:614 (4) - emm? why? 01:41:464 (3,4,5) - wht not keep same ds / same music but different design, here 01:48:664 (3,4,5) - Something strange happened here. Not sure how it got messed up. Fixed.
  10. I think music should like this, don't you think? What is this referring to?
    pic
  11. 02:33:064 (1,2) - little close I'll ask
  12. 02:46:414 (4,5,6,7) - how about Ayyri's opinion before changing anything with these two points.
    pic
  13. 02:50:014 (3,4,5) - make 3,4,5 to triangle will be more beautiful I think forcing a triangle here would mess with the intended flow by making it more back and forth rather than relatively linear.
    pic
  14. 02:57:214 (3,4,5) - ^ Especially here, that would require totally changing the pattern and in this case make it look more crowded.
  15. 03:08:164 (7) - straight meybe not good-looking, shape it? I do not think there is any good shape that would not interfere with the overall pattern.
  16. 03:35:164 (3) - i think there should be 1/3 The flute is a bit iffy, but I am very sure that it is not following 1/3. No change for now.
    pic
I like your map (or this kind of style maybe?? / rank it~ xD good luck :)
Ayyri
Ayyri

Noffy wrote:

_Stan wrote:

Collabird
  1. 00:58:264 (4) - ctrl+G make a jump? it's up to you I am not sure what you mean by this. After asking you, Noffy and I think that having a jump by ctrl+ging 00:58:264 - and 00:58:414 - would ruin the overall diamond pattern that is there already.
  2. 01:22:864 (3,4) - ds maybe not suitable, consider about flow, how about this one Will consider. Well, the distance between these two notes is bigger than the other ones, because there is a longer pause inbetween them. Making them much closer, would cause someone to hit it too early.
  3. I think music should like this, don't you think? What is this referring to? Again, after asking you for clarification, this suggestion does not fit here. Since the vocal is being held out, and there is no aubile sound to be mapped to at 02:48:139 - , which you are suggesting. So having a slider from 02:48:064 - to 02:48:214 - works best.
  4. 02:33:064 (1,2) - little close I'll ask While there is a small break between 02:33:064 - and 02:33:664 - there does not need to be a huge jump here like at 01:22:864 - and 01:23:464 - because this is one of the most calm parts of the song. Having such a jump here would seem really odd.
  5. 02:46:414 (4,5,6,7) - how about Ayyri's opinion before changing anything with these two points. We have slightly changed the distance between these notes.

    I like your map (or this kind of style maybe?? / rank it~ xD good luck :) Thank you.
Thank you for the mod.
vick
260 posts
Joined August 2014
vick
Hi, Ayyri asked me in-game to mod the last diff

Collabird


00:10:714 (1,2,3) - here you're not following the guitar and 00:11:464 (4,5,6) - here yes, this feels really weird tbh, feels like 00:10:864 (3) - tail's should be clickable and 00:11:464 (4) - cant even hear something

if you are making 00:12:364 (7) - clickable then why in 00:12:664 (1) - tail no ? also, its weird that you are making that slider part of the guitar and the tail has not the same sound

00:13:864 (4) - tail's too ^

00:14:464 (1) - ^

00:14:464 (1,1) - in the space between these notes you can hear the guitar that you were following in all the first part of the map, why u didnt map it now ?

00:17:014 (2) - i suggest to add a note here, and also making 00:16:264 (2) - tail's clickable

00:19:564 (5,1) - pls try this to make a better flow http://puu.sh/pRODk/bcaeea5ddd.jpg

00:27:064 (2,3,4) - this sounds pretty bad imo, 00:27:214 (3) - cant hear a note there, this should be the start of the slider but anyways i really suggest u to change the whole pattern making a slider here 00:27:064 (2) - tail's here 00:27:364 (2) - and add a note here 00:27:664 (3) -

00:28:414 (2,3,4) - i dont really understand those changes inthe instruments that you are following and keeping the same spacing all the time

00:44:164 (2,3,4) - this pattern looks bad cuz 2 and 4 are too close, try to change this a bit (also, moving the 2 a bit down and left will give you some flow)

00:51:364 (3) - isnt the sv like too fast ? lol, i guess u did that to make the slider fit in

00:58:564 (1) - i dont understand why this slider is curved like that, if you simply made a blanket with 00:58:114 (3) - you would have some flow

00:59:164 (3) - if you are gonna bend this slider to the other way to make an anti-flow then the 4 should be like this (yeah, i moved the 3 too) http://puu.sh/pRP9t/ee7cb370c0.jpg

00:59:914 (5,6) - i dont get this kind of antiflow tbh

01:03:064 (1) - the start of this slider shoulnt be that curved, it would look way better if you move a bit like this http://puu.sh/pRPiu/f038930f80.jpg

01:24:364 (2) - curve this more pls and change 01:24:964 (5) - http://puu.sh/pRPqb/f7e835a903.jpg

01:26:464 (4,3) - i dont know what to say about this, but it feels bad at least for me

01:49:489 (6,7,3) - try to dont overlap this, make the 3 stacked in one of the notes

01:59:764 (1,2,3,4) - i dont think that 1-2 has a stronger sound than 3-4 so why did you change the spacing like that ?

02:12:064 (3) - ctrl j pls and if u make this 02:12:364 (4) - so "diagonal" it looks pretty bad, move it a bit but still with the blanket

02:12:664 (5,1) - think in the cursor movement here, you are going up with the 5 and then you are making the 1 a bit down to go up again, it just..a bad flow, try to change it a bit to no go so down

02:18:964 (7) - after all the cool sliders i saw in this map this one looks.. bad Orz

02:44:764 (3,5) - hmmm are you sure u want to have a stack there ? it looks like easy to missread tbh, i dont know, ur choice

02:46:264 (3,4,5,6,7) - i dont want to be mean, but i really suggest to change all this, looks bad and it does not have any kind of flow imo

02:48:364 (3,4) - why r u following the flow down the 3 ?

02:48:964 (5,1) - ^

03:00:064 (1) - i dont know anything about this "slider art" but maybe u can try to make this blanket with 02:59:164 (3) -

03:02:764 (4,5) - you should move 5, the spacing changes like... a lot

03:22:564 (1) - imo, you can map all of this, i dont understand that spinner at all

03:35:764 (6,1) - here too, i mean, what is that pause ? i cant understand. Feels like you forgot to map it

03:44:164 (3) - u can add a spinner after this note ending here 03:48:664 (4) -

im sorry if sometimes i talk like "mean" but sometimes i dont find the correct words in english Orz
Noffy
Nomination Assessment Team
1,659 posts
Joined April 2012
Topic Starter
Noffy

vick wrote:

Hi, Ayyri asked me in-game to mod the last diff

Collabird


00:10:714 (1,2,3) - here you're not following the guitar and 00:11:464 (4,5,6) - here yes, this feels really weird tbh, feels like 00:10:864 (3) - tail's should be clickable and 00:11:464 (4) - cant even hear something

if you are making 00:12:364 (7) - clickable then why in 00:12:664 (1) - tail no ? also, its weird that you are making that slider part of the guitar and the tail has not the same sound

00:13:864 (4) - tail's too ^

00:14:464 (1) - ^

00:14:464 (1,1) - in the space between these notes you can hear the guitar that you were following in all the first part of the map, why u didnt map it now ?

00:17:014 (2) - i suggest to add a note here, and also making 00:16:264 (2) - tail's clickable ^ for this and the above points, new elements are introduced in the song which are more prominent than the guitar and from that point on are more closely followed.

00:19:564 (5,1) - pls try this to make a better flow http://puu.sh/pRODk/bcaeea5ddd.jpg ? I do not see what change this makes.

00:27:064 (2,3,4) - this sounds pretty bad imo, 00:27:214 (3) - cant hear a note there, this should be the start of the slider but anyways i really suggest u to change the whole pattern making a slider here 00:27:064 (2) - tail's here 00:27:364 (2) - and add a note here 00:27:664 (3) - I'm not really sure what you mean as I can hear a note, and where (4) currently starts is a note as strong as (2), I do not think having it as a slider end would work well.

00:28:414 (2,3,4) - i dont really understand those changes inthe instruments that you are following and keeping the same spacing all the time Though I'm not entirely sure what you mean, I can see that the spacing here is quite odd. Will consider changing.

00:44:164 (2,3,4) - this pattern looks bad cuz 2 and 4 are too close, try to change this a bit (also, moving the 2 a bit down and left will give you some flow) I didn't move 2 and 4 as I think their coming to a point at 3 is fine, but adjusted 00:43:864 (1) - for some itty bitty flow

00:51:364 (3) - isnt the sv like too fast ? lol, i guess u did that to make the slider fit in ? the sv is the same here as the rest of the map.

00:58:564 (1) - i dont understand why this slider is curved like that, if you simply made a blanket with 00:58:114 (3) - you would have some flow ??? making 1 blanket 3 is make the slider move in a totally different direction which in my opinion overall does not flow better and makes it unnecessarily crowded.

00:59:164 (3) - if you are gonna bend this slider to the other way to make an anti-flow then the 4 should be like this (yeah, i moved the 3 too) http://puu.sh/pRP9t/ee7cb370c0.jpg

00:59:914 (5,6) - i dont get this kind of antiflow tbh With ^ this positioning takes into account slider leniency, making it perfectly easily playable in a circular movement without looking as bland, and that's the way it would be naturally played by most players.

01:03:064 (1) - the start of this slider shoulnt be that curved, it would look way better if you move a bit like this http://puu.sh/pRPiu/f038930f80.jpg Shouldn't be that curved, but the screenshot it appears more curved..?

01:24:364 (2) - curve this more pls and change 01:24:964 (5) - http://puu.sh/pRPqb/f7e835a903.jpg Not sure what you mean by the first half of the comment, but (5) is like foreshadowing for 01:26:464 (5) - 01:28:264 (3) -

01:26:464 (4,3) - i dont know what to say about this, but it feels bad at least for me No change for now.

01:49:489 (6,7,3) - try to dont overlap this, make the 3 stacked in one of the notes I see what you mean, but I think to have it stacked normally would be more difficult to read.

01:59:764 (1,2,3,4) - i dont think that 1-2 has a stronger sound than 3-4 so why did you change the spacing like that ? Ayyri reply with logic here thanks.

02:12:064 (3) - ctrl j pls and if u make this 02:12:364 (4) - so "diagonal" it looks pretty bad, move it a bit but still with the blanket ???

02:12:664 (5,1) - think in the cursor movement here, you are going up with the 5 and then you are making the 1 a bit down to go up again, it just..a bad flow, try to change it a bit to no go so down Ok I agree with this. Changed a bit.

02:18:964 (7) - after all the cool sliders i saw in this map this one looks.. bad Orz Bad? Not sure in what way you mean that. It's a bit different aesthetically from other sliders as it is beginning the flute section which is a very distinct part of the song, but... ><

02:44:764 (3,5) - hmmm are you sure u want to have a stack there ? it looks like easy to missread tbh, i dont know, ur choice May be changed depending on how the below gets modified.

02:46:264 (3,4,5,6,7) - i dont want to be mean, but i really suggest to change all this, looks bad and it does not have any kind of flow imo Willl ask Ayyri ye

02:48:364 (3,4) - why r u following the flow down the 3 ? ^

02:48:964 (5,1) - ^ ^

03:00:064 (1) - i dont know anything about this "slider art" but maybe u can try to make this blanket with 02:59:164 (3) - I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this as 3 already blankets 1 and having 1 blanket 3 as well from that position is ??? I can't figure out a way to do such a thing that doesn't look really weird.

03:02:764 (4,5) - you should move 5, the spacing changes like... a lot Will wait for Ayyri to look at this as it's her precious donut.

03:22:564 (1) - imo, you can map all of this, i dont understand that spinner at all The spinner is following the incredibly intense held flute and vocal here, while there are other sounds to map, they are not as prominent.

03:35:764 (6,1) - here too, i mean, what is that pause ? i cant understand. Feels like you forgot to map it It's a pause in most difficulties of this map so that the change from following flute to guitar is not awkward.

03:44:164 (3) - u can add a spinner after this note ending here 03:48:664 (4) - I don't think a spinner would fit here, it's a very calm droning out when spinners are more meant to be for intense bits.

im sorry if sometimes i talk like "mean" but sometimes i dont find the correct words in english Orz S'all okay. Thank you for the mod ~
Ayyri
Ayyri

Noffy wrote:

vick wrote:

00:27:064 (2,3,4) - this sounds pretty bad imo, 00:27:214 (3) - cant hear a note there, this should be the start of the slider but anyways i really suggest u to change the whole pattern making a slider here 00:27:064 (2) - tail's here 00:27:364 (2) - and add a note here 00:27:664 (3) - I'm not really sure what you mean as I can hear a note, and where (4) currently starts is a note as strong as (2), I do not think having it as a slider end would work well. At 00:27:214 - there actually is a sound there. There is a small sound with the bass here, as well as the held out note at 00:27:064 - to 00:27:214 - until the sound at 00:27:364 - starts. Because removing the note at 00:27:214 - overall, sound really weird and awkward to play, despite the extra spacing between 00:27:064 - and 00:27:364 - .

00:28:414 (2,3,4) - i dont really understand those changes inthe instruments that you are following and keeping the same spacing all the time Though I'm not entirely sure what you mean, I can see that the spacing here is quite odd. Will consider changing. There's a bit of a difference between the instruments here, but I have changed the spacing a bit.

01:03:064 (1) - the start of this slider shoulnt be that curved, it would look way better if you move a bit like this http://puu.sh/pRPiu/f038930f80.jpg Shouldn't be that curved, but the screenshot it appears more curved..? I do not agree with this. Because 01:03:064 - is meant to blanket 01:03:664 - instead of what you are insinuation, which is to have it blanket 01:03:964 - .

01:59:764 (1,2,3,4) - i dont think that 1-2 has a stronger sound than 3-4 so why did you change the spacing like that ? Ayyri reply with logic here thanks. I don't really see what you mean here. Because the song is more intense between 01:59:764 - and 01:59:914 - than between 02:00:064 - and 02:00:214 - , since it is calming down at 02:00:364 - (Thus why it is a reverse slider.)

02:12:064 (3) - ctrl j pls and if u make this 02:12:364 (4) - so "diagonal" it looks pretty bad, move it a bit but still with the blanket ??? Why ctrl+j here? It was intended to have 02:12:064 - to follow a different visual path than directly up to 02:12:364 - .

02:18:964 (7) - after all the cool sliders i saw in this map this one looks.. bad Orz Bad? Not sure in what way you mean that. It's a bit different aesthetically from other sliders as it is beginning the flute section which is a very distinct part of the song, but... >< I don't get why you're saying this type of slider looks bad aesthetically, when it's literally happening again a second later at 02:20:014 - . As well as the fact that it's a common S-shaped slider, which happens a handful of times before hand. So imo there's no real reason to change this slider when it looks perfectly fine.

02:44:764 (3,5) - hmmm are you sure u want to have a stack there ? it looks like easy to missread tbh, i dont know, ur choice May be changed depending on how the below gets modified. This has been changed in a different way.

02:46:264 (3,4,5,6,7) - i dont want to be mean, but i really suggest to change all this, looks bad and it does not have any kind of flow imo Willl ask Ayyri ye The flow itself, as well as design looks okay, but the spacing for things was changed a bit.

02:48:364 (3,4) - why r u following the flow down the 3 ? ^ Because the slider is pointing down here?

02:48:964 (5,1) - ^ ^ 02:48:964 - is pointing up??

03:00:064 (1) - i dont know anything about this "slider art" but maybe u can try to make this blanket with 02:59:164 (3) - I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this as 3 already blankets 1 and having 1 blanket 3 as well from that position is ??? I can't figure out a way to do such a thing that doesn't look really weird. It wasn't the intention of having 03:00:064 - blanket 02:59:164 - because the shape of 03:00:064 - is a curve going inwards, rather than outwards. It was to have a difference from the previous blanket at 02:58:864 - .

03:02:764 (4,5) - you should move 5, the spacing changes like... a lot Will wait for Ayyri to look at this as it's her precious donut. The spacing doesn't change too much here, but it's because if I were to change the shape of 03:02:764 - it would be a really weird looking long slider in a different direction, which would disrupt the flow here. So to avoid this, I made a donut instead.
Izzywing
osu! Alumni
2,248 posts
Joined March 2016
Izzywing
Hi, I did a m4m with Jonawaga and he sent me to mod this map, so here I am C:

[Easy]

I personally think the SV is a bit high (Something like .7 would feel better for an Easy), but this would require a softremap and you don't really have to do it I guess.

00:30:664 (2) - The curve is strange here, the circled part of this image needs to be smoother. http://imgur.com/AM0J6mH

00:30:664 (2,1) - There can be a more even blanket

01:01:264 (2) - The way you setup the nodes (more on the right than on the left) makes this slider subtly lopsided

02:14:164 (2) - You can control this shape nicer by using more nodes. The current nodes just feel so...wild

02:32:164 (2,1) - a more even blanket is possible

[Normal]

00:16:714 (1) - Don't think a NC is necessary here

01:48:964 (3) - Shape feels lopsided, can use some work

01:57:964 (3) - ^

02:27:364 (1) - move this NC to 02:27:664 (2) -

02:30:964 (1) - move this NC to 02:31:264 (2) -

02:34:564 (1) - move this NC to 02:34:864 (2) -

02:38:164 (1) - move this NC to 02:38:464 (2) -

03:33:364 (3) - spacing

[Hard]

00:57:964 (2,3,4,5) - too much single tapping at this BPM for a hard, I think. Only time you have 4 single taps in this entire diff.

01:04:639 (5) - I think this is supposed to start on 01:04:564

01:15:664 (3) - make the end of this slider neater

02:01:264 (2,3) - These come very close to touching, you should blanket them instead.

Good luck! Fun mapset. Love the sliders.

[waga's Light Insane]

00:25:714 (4) - I think this plays AND looks better if you rotate this shape a bit counterclockwise. You can even partially blanket it with 00:25:264 (3)

00:51:364 (1) - I prefer this shape to be symmetrical. Looks neater that way.

01:04:564 (7,1) - I think the spacing here should be bigger, considering it's a downbeat / strong vocal.

01:10:264 (1,3) - This pattern is neater if these two are the same distance from 01:10:714 (2), as pictured - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5567782

01:18:814 - I don't think it's correct to ignore this drum.

01:31:864 (1) - this shape is very cool.

01:51:664 (1,2) - I recommend different shapes for these, the one you're using is kinda ugly.

02:00:364 (5,1) - these are awfully close together

02:17:164 (2,3,4) - Get these two sliders the same distance from 3 and have them properly blanket.

Good luck!
Jonarwhal
1,222 posts
Joined November 2013
Jonarwhal

Hobbes2 wrote:

[waga's Light Insane]

00:25:714 (4) - I think this plays AND looks better if you rotate this shape a bit counterclockwise. You can even partially blanket it with 00:25:264 (3)

00:51:364 (1) - I prefer this shape to be symmetrical. Looks neater that way.

01:04:564 (7,1) - I think the spacing here should be bigger, considering it's a downbeat / strong vocal.

01:10:264 (1,3) - This pattern is neater if these two are the same distance from 01:10:714 (2), as pictured - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5567782

01:18:814 - I don't think it's correct to ignore this drum.

01:31:864 (1) - this shape is very cool. thanks lol

01:51:664 (1,2) - I recommend different shapes for these, the one you're using is kinda ugly.

02:00:364 (5,1) - these are awfully close together

02:17:164 (2,3,4) - Get these two sliders the same distance from 3 and have them properly blanket. Fixed the blankets, and the new numbers were 1.30x and 1.32x, which is close enough

Good luck!
Placeholder for now, but It looks like you forgot to mod Collabird lol

No reply=Fixed, Thanks for modding~!!

Doro look here after you add my name and Ayyri's name to the tags
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