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Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan
Mash dear I think you know enough of mafia games and the like to see that there's this certain tactic called distancing I and 0_o could be doing. If someone acts scummy and we jump on it to accuse him and lo behold it's really a mafia, then people will get townie vibes from us, while it's not certain that I'm actually town. See last game where two blatantly fell for my trickeries.
Since my vote is more or less useless with the almost-majority stck in yay-nay over Nakata, I might as well Unvote and vote at a later date. I'll put up a vote for a no lynch until I decide to drop in again, just to save me a nasty phantom vote for D2.

Oh 2, I really really think you could do better than calling people out on their use of emoticons.

:P >_<
Nakata Yuji
471 posts
Joined April 2009
Nakata Yuji
when exactly did i quit acting jester...?
type with proper caps = not jester?
when did one ever say that jesters can't make pseudo-insightful posts?



and 2's speech of emoticons somewhat makes sense to me, I would compare the usage of such to judging one by facial expressions
though i'm probably just going to watch how this works out.

apparently, 2 knows what I am, so you might as well confirm what i am before you label me as scum <3
Mashley
2,042 posts
Joined September 2008
Mashley
Around when it was pointed out that you were acting Jester, Nakata. I thought that was quite obvious.
Yuukari-Banteki
1,534 posts
Joined June 2008
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki

Wojjan wrote:

I'll put up a vote for a no lynch until I decide to drop in again, just to save me a nasty phantom vote for D2.
For the record, this game does not utilize phantom votes. If you are inactive you will be prodded. If you don't pick up your prod, I will forcibly replace you. If you are prodded repeatedly without any sign of picking up your activity beyond the bare minimum, I will forcibly replace you. If, after a significant period of time, I am unable to fill an inactive slot, that slot will be modkilled.
Nakata Yuji
471 posts
Joined April 2009
Nakata Yuji

Mashley wrote:

Around when it was pointed out that you were acting Jester, Nakata. I thought that was quite obvious.
It was really more or less after I had "give up".
When I was pointed out as a Jester, I responded:

secksey wrote:

*glare*
you got me.
There could be significance behind all of this.
0_o seems to have been right on the whole time, but you know.
How can you know :D
Mashley
2,042 posts
Joined September 2008
Mashley
But you said that before anyone said you might be a jester?
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan
scratch that last bit then.
Nakata Yuji
471 posts
Joined April 2009
Nakata Yuji

Mashley wrote:

But you said that before anyone said you might be a jester?
It was pointed out when strager instructed Cuddles to post that he thought that I was an obvious Jester.

I said that afterwards bro <3
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
there isn't a jester in this game

you can quote me on that and rub it in my face after this game is over, if I'm wrong
Nakata Yuji
471 posts
Joined April 2009
Nakata Yuji
we'll just have to find out, won't we?
Mashley
2,042 posts
Joined September 2008
Mashley

Nakata Yuji wrote:

Mashley wrote:

But you said that before anyone said you might be a jester?
It was pointed out when strager instructed Cuddles to post that he thought that I was an obvious Jester.

I said that afterwards bro <3
No... you didn't... Go and look back at the posts

Nakata Yuji wrote:

damn you got me.
vote for me guys.
Nakata Yuji
471 posts
Joined April 2009
Nakata Yuji
page 8 bud
edit: okay, i did say that before strager's post, but still, page 8
Mashley
2,042 posts
Joined September 2008
Mashley
I'm not sure I follow you... are you trying to roleclaim Jester or what?
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan
Aha. There's our WIFOM.
Nakata Yuji
471 posts
Joined April 2009
Nakata Yuji

Wojjan wrote:

Aha. There's our WIFOM.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
unvote, vote Mashley

also can you prod these people thx:

matthewtck
pieguy1372
strager
0_o
DiamondCrash
Oyashiro Beatrice
meronmyon
rust45
Yuukari-Banteki
1,534 posts
Joined June 2008
Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
matthewtck has already been prodded, I will prod the rest within a couple days.
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan

Two wrote:

unvote, vote Mashley
Well well. You've been very very indecisive as of late Two. You just now said there is not a jester in this game, and Nakata is playing against town, be he a townie or predator. I'm all for lynching people playing against tow, how about you?
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
you've been trolling for the past 4+ posts, wojjan

for what?
Nakata Yuji
471 posts
Joined April 2009
Nakata Yuji
let's keep this civil guys
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan
I just am a horrible person.
rust45
1,085 posts
Joined May 2009
rust45
Avoiding prod. Also, my vote still stands.
NoHitter
osu! Alumni
3,785 posts
Joined June 2009
NoHitter
Claiming Jester as town:
You "protect" yourself, but cause massive confusion for town.

Claiming Jester as scum:
You "protect" yourself, and cause massive confusion for town.
bearing019
osu! Alumni
1,367 posts
Joined June 2009
bearing019
Nakata Yuji; Roleclaim.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old

DiamondCrash wrote:

Nakata Yuji; Roleclaim.
wow?

so are you waiting for the 6th vote to lynch them or what? that's what wolves usually do day 1
bearing019
osu! Alumni
1,367 posts
Joined June 2009
bearing019
I have no plan to vote for Nakata, thanks.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
so your plan is to nightkill unless they roleclaim something useless, then?
bearing019
osu! Alumni
1,367 posts
Joined June 2009
bearing019
No, because I don't have any nightkilling abilities.

Silly two.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
I don't see how nakata roleclaiming would benefit town at all. You people are already guaranteeing they get night killed anyway, since you wouldn't leave talk about their role alone. It's also made me consider why even after the post they made, thinking they were already dead, all of you are still voting for them. Is it maybe because half of the voters know that nakata is town and won't give up the lynch?

Nakata Yuji (5) - NoHitter, Mashley, mernomyon, rust45, Oyashiro Beatrice
bearing019
osu! Alumni
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Joined June 2009
bearing019
On behalf of strager;

strager wrote:

Two wrote:

Is it maybe because half of the voters know that nakata is town and won't give up the lynch?
Or is it because the voters are town and really think Nakata is scum, possibly because they *are* scum? And you're just trying to get votes off them to defend your buddy or some shit?
Nakata Yuji
471 posts
Joined April 2009
Nakata Yuji
This is getting interesting.

I can't wait to see the conclusion that you guys come to.

magikarp
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
Why would I start the chain of votes on my "buddy"? I'm not stupid enough to not know how sticky votes are on the first day. More importantly, why have you still not posted a reason for voting for me? I thought the vote was just your usual bs so I ignored it, but I guess you have a reason?

This is all a distraction though. While I don't know if nakata was honest when they posted their role, I really think they were because of the circumstances and how they've been playing so far. Please don't be dumb and lynch them thx.
Nakata Yuji
471 posts
Joined April 2009
Nakata Yuji

Two wrote:

Why would I start the chain of votes on my "buddy"? I'm not stupid enough to not know how sticky votes are on the first day. More importantly, why have you still not posted a reason for voting for me? I thought the vote was just your usual bs so I ignored it, but I guess you have a reason?

This is all a distraction though. While I don't know if nakata was honest when they posted their role, I really think they were because of the circumstances and how they've been playing so far. Please don't be dumb and lynch them thx.
well, you started the chain previous to the revelation of my role. and your cover up is too obvious
Ph0X
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Joined March 2009
Ph0X
(Posting for strager.)

Two wrote:

More importantly, why have you still not posted a reason for voting for me? I thought the vote was just your usual bs so I ignored it, but I guess you have a reason?
Yeah.

I do have a reason.

You kept Nakata's roleclaim to yourself.

Either you're a Townie trying to cover up Nakata's mistake (in which case, why did you say in IRC that Nakata posted their role?) or you're scum trying to either (1) get the votes off your scum buddy who (oops!) "claimed" to get out of a rough situation, or (2) get votes onto another player by playing "hero" by "protecting" Nakata from "possible scum" (like DC and I, who were in IRC at the time).

If you had not gloated that you saw Nakata claim to DC and I in IRC, I may not have thought so much of your unvote and your keeping the roleclaim private. However, you did gloat, and you did refuse to reveal why you did unvote shortly thereafter. I cannot really see any other alternative than "Two is scum".

Two wrote:

Why would I start the chain of votes on my "buddy"? I'm not stupid enough to not know how sticky votes are on the first day.
This is complete bullshit and you know it as well as I (and any other veterans here, including SFG) do.
Hijiri Tezuka
313 posts
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Hijiri Tezuka
Prod avoided, I can't believe we're in distress over 1 person....I say eliminate the source of the trouble....
Nakata Yuji
471 posts
Joined April 2009
Nakata Yuji
I see 2 controversial people at this point in time.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
Either you're a Townie trying to cover up Nakata's mistake (in which case, why did you say in IRC that Nakata posted their role?) or you're scum trying to either (1) get the votes off your scum buddy who (oops!) "claimed" to get out of a rough situation, or (2) get votes onto another player by playing "hero" by "protecting" Nakata from "possible scum" (like DC and I, who were in IRC at the time).
strager since we are on the subject of mafia/wwg veterans, why is it that one such as yourself limited the options to three? There are more than that.

are you trying to pull a Mashley here?
Mashley
2,042 posts
Joined September 2008
Mashley
Wait, what? :(
Ph0X
1,043 posts
Joined March 2009
Ph0X

Two wrote:

Either you're a Townie trying to cover up Nakata's mistake (in which case, why did you say in IRC that Nakata posted their role?) or you're scum trying to either (1) get the votes off your scum buddy who (oops!) "claimed" to get out of a rough situation, or (2) get votes onto another player by playing "hero" by "protecting" Nakata from "possible scum" (like DC and I, who were in IRC at the time).
strager since we are on the subject of mafia/wwg veterans, why is it that one such as yourself limited the options to three? There are more than that.

are you trying to pull a Mashley here?
Nice. "There are other options, but I can't think of any right now. You already stated the true case."
0_o
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0_o
Hi, I can only get the Internet occasionally on my iPod so I won't be active until Monday.

Thank you, and have a great day.

*beeep*
Nakata Yuji
471 posts
Joined April 2009
Nakata Yuji
bump?
Hijiri Tezuka
313 posts
Joined March 2010
Hijiri Tezuka
And so it seems that the discussion has died....
NoHitter
osu! Alumni
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Joined June 2009
NoHitter

Oyashiro Beatrice wrote:

And so it seems that the discussion has died....
Maybe you should contribute next time?
rust45
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Joined May 2009
rust45
Yeah, complaining when you didn't contribute much is stupid.

Anyway, I'll be out of town starting on the 22 and I won't be back till the 28, during that time I'll have limited access to the internet (if at all).
Mashley
2,042 posts
Joined September 2008
Mashley
So uh, what's up?
rust45
1,085 posts
Joined May 2009
rust45
Oh Mashely, strager wants you in the irc channel.
0_o
2,155 posts
Joined December 2008
0_o
baaaack

I'll read through everything later on today and (hopefully) get back in this.
Yuukari-Banteki
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Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
The mod is having severe internet problems and is extending the deadline until WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25th. Use the time wisely.
Nakata Yuji
471 posts
Joined April 2009
Nakata Yuji
this game is kind of not working out that well
since i'm gonna get lynched anywayssss
0_o
2,155 posts
Joined December 2008
0_o
Who wants to be a dear and post a vote count?
Ph0X
1,043 posts
Joined March 2009
Ph0X
It's me again!

Where 'me' is 'strager'.

Vote log
DiamondCrash: Wojjan
rust45: 0_o
meronmyon: 0_o
Mashley: Two
Wojjan: matthewtck
Two: Wojjan
Mashley: matthewtck
Nakata Yuji: Mashley
Oyashiro Beatrice: Wojjan
Nakata Yuji: Wojjan
Two: Nakata Yuji
NoHItter: Nakata Yuji
Mashley: Nakata Yuji
meronmyon: Nakata Yuji
DiamondCrash: Nakata Yuji
DiamondCrash: -
rust45: -
rust45: Nakata Yuji
Oyashiro Beatrice: Nakata Yuji
Two: -
strager: Two
pieguy1372: Two
Nakata Yuji: -
Two: Mashley
Wojjan: (no lynch)
Two: Mashley

Current votes
Nakata Yuji (5) - meronmyon, Mashley, Oyashiro Beatrice, NoHItter, rust45
Two (2) - strager, pieguy1372
Mashley (1) - Two
No lynch (1) - Wojjan

I'm interested in hearing your opinions of Two's case against Mashley, 0_o.
0_o
2,155 posts
Joined December 2008
0_o
Alright, regarding Two's coverup of Nataka's role: I think it's completely legitimate. If Nataka's role is important then it would be in the town's best interest to keep his role a secret, and also to be aware that his role was posted so the town doesn't vote him out.

Now Mashley I'm not sure what to think of. I can see Two's point with Mash acting overly cute and innocent, but I really don't know him well enough to know if that behaviour's out of the ordinary or not. However if the vote is between Nataka, Two and Mash, I would feel safest voting for Mash.

So vote Mashley.
Mashley
2,042 posts
Joined September 2008
Mashley
Should have done this sooner, but Unvote, Vote No Lynch since I no longer have a reason to suspect Nataka.
Someone in IRC asked me why I was voting for Nataka and I really couldn't think why I should be voting for her, other than wanting to have a vote on someone, which is stupid tbh. :?
NoHitter
osu! Alumni
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NoHitter

Mashley wrote:

Should have done this sooner, but Unvote, Vote No Lynch since I no longer have a reason to suspect Nataka
OK Mashley. When you unvote, please give a reason.
You have no longer any reason to suspect Nakata? Elaborate.

Edit: Nice edit Mashely

Wait.... so you're now saying that you're vote was nothing but a jump on the bandwagon even after you justified it on the same post?

Vote: Mashley
Nakata Yuji
471 posts
Joined April 2009
Nakata Yuji
I'm going to be totally honest.
I want to stay in this, so Vote: Mashely. I understand I'll likely lose because I reached 5 way before if he gets another vote, but if Mash gets another afterwards or I lose mine, I'll be okay.

If you find this suspicious, then rest assured I'm not pulling any crap, I'm just trying to stay alive.
Mashley
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Joined September 2008
Mashley
Sorry, why are you guys voting for me? No, it wasn't a bandwagon vote NoHItter because I was the first person to vote for Nataka. Recently after talking to strager I realised that it was silly to vote nataka because after something unusual (which I won't elaborate on, that's strager's job) she said strager noticed it seemed quite likely that she could be vanilla and it'd be best to wait until she says something that actually makes sense.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old

Mashley wrote:

after something unusual (which I won't elaborate on, that's strager's job) she said strager noticed it seemed quite likely that she could be vanilla and it'd be best to wait until she says something that actually makes sense.
no you weren't the first person to vote for them, you were the third (I was first, nohitter was second)

also what does the part I quoted even mean
Mashley
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Mashley

Two wrote:

Mashley wrote:

after something unusual (which I won't elaborate on, that's strager's job) she said strager noticed it seemed quite likely that she could be vanilla and it'd be best to wait until she says something that actually makes sense.
no you weren't the first person to vote for them, you were the third (I was first, nohitter was second)

also what does the part I quoted even mean
Wait, I wasn't? Okay then. Should probably have checked that first...
Mashley
2,042 posts
Joined September 2008
Mashley

Nakata Yuji wrote:

magikarp
Here it is. Nataka, tell us all why would said this, please?
Nakata Yuji
471 posts
Joined April 2009
Nakata Yuji
If I wanted to tell you, I already would have. Bringing up such a minor detail would be futile in some sort of salvation, you're just grasping at straws at this point in time.

Though I'll give you a hint.
What is a magikarp?
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
a magic... carp?
Nakata Yuji
471 posts
Joined April 2009
Nakata Yuji
You're over-analyzing buddy. Actually, it's a useless tidbit of information that I give you when you figure out, but veterans might be able to discern its use.

EDIT:
It's almost as if Mash already knows what it means. It almost sounds like he's trying to imply that I have some sort of shady connection with him. Come to think about it, we had a little private conversation a while back.

But since he know's I'm clean, then obviously there's something more since I don't confer with him.
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Ph0X
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Joined March 2009
Ph0X
(Posting for strager.)

Nakata Yuji wrote:

You're over-analyzing buddy. Actually, it's a useless tidbit of information that I give you when you figure out, but veterans might be able to discern its use.
Here's how to stop being a dick.

  1. If the information you are hiding is detrimental to yourself if publicly known, state that.
  2. If the information you are hiding is detrimental to the Town if known by the Mafia, state that.
  3. If the information you are hiding is detrimental to a specific player or group of players if known by a specific player or group of players, state that.
  4. If the information you are hiding is incriminating another player, state that. If possible, state the evidence so we can consider the evidence appropriately.
  5. If you are hiding the information for some other, state that, and state the reason.
  6. If you are not hiding any information, state that.
If you do not respond appropriately, my vote's going to you, Nakata.

Clearly, if you were trying to 'save your ass from the lynch', you would have already done one of the above (or some option I may have missed).
Nakata Yuji
471 posts
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Nakata Yuji
fine, if you're so eager to know.


magikarp --> splash.

That's really it d00d
rust45
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Joined May 2009
rust45
I have less of a reason to vote for Nakata and so I'm just gonna unvote for now and vote when I hopefully come back.

And my reason is that Nakata recents posts are giving me townie vibe, I just hope I'm right.
rust45
1,085 posts
Joined May 2009
rust45
Alright, I've decided, gonna Vote: Two as I think he is being way too offensive especially with his respones to Nakata.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
I think he is being way too offensive especially with his respones to Nakata.
SPOILER
0_o
2,155 posts
Joined December 2008
0_o
Yeahhh I'm pretty sure every post Two has ever made in mafia has been offensive.
Mashley
2,042 posts
Joined September 2008
Mashley

Nakata Yuji wrote:

fine, if you're so eager to know.


magikarp --> splash.

That's really it d00d
Yes, that is it. That's the most important thing.
bearing019
osu! Alumni
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Joined June 2009
bearing019
So, Nakata, why have you changed from trying to get yourself killed to trying to keep yourself alive, hm?
Nakata Yuji
471 posts
Joined April 2009
Nakata Yuji

DiamondCrash wrote:

So, Nakata, why have you changed from trying to get yourself killed to trying to keep yourself alive, hm?
Why, I can't want to stay alive?
everyone's seen through the joker facade by now, i would hope you have too
Yuukari-Banteki
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Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
Day's End Votecount

matthewtck (0)
pieguy1372 (0)
strager (0)
0_o (0)
DiamondCrash (0)
Mashley (4) - Two, 0_o, NoHitter, Nakata Yuji
NoHitter (0)
Oyashiro Beatrice (0)
meronmyon (0)
Nakata Yuji (2) - mernomyon, Oyashiro Beatrice
Two (3) - strager, pieguy1372, rust45
Wojjan (0)
rust45 (0)
No Lynch (2) - Wojjan, Mashley

Not Voting (2) - matthewtck, DiamondCrash

Mashley is at L-3!
At deadline, the player with the highest number of votes, Mashley, is lynched!


WARNING: Lynch scenes spring directly from the mind of the mod and have nothing to do with individual players' alignments.

Approaching a nearby beach, the school of fish argued over who was who. Was Nakata Yuji a predator? Some sort of fish that bred by dying? Just an ordinary fish? Then there was that Mashley character. He'd been acting suspicious towards the end of the day, and the fish were mulling around. First one fin, then another pointed accusingly at Mashley. Nakata Yuji was the last, flipping him up onto the sands of the beach to flop around, suffocating. Mashley gave one last, pained look towards the school as he died, and whispered, "It wasn't...me..."

Mashley, Sea Bass (town), lynched Day 1
It is now NIGHT. Anyone who posts in thread will be punished. Please send in actions by forum PM to the mod. Actions not sent in or actions sent on an invalid target will be randomized.
Oyashiro Beatrice is being replaced. Night will not end until I have done so.
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Yuukari-Banteki
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Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
Lybydose has replaced Oyashiro Beatrice! Night will end on August 31st. Any actions not sent in will be randomized.
Yuukari-Banteki
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Topic Starter
Yuukari-Banteki
It is morning now, and the fish wake up to a nasty surprise. There in the water, with tendrils of blood diffusing out from their dead bodies, float matthewtck and Nakata Yuji. The school is at first too shocked to do anything, but soon realize that although Nakata Yuji was a harmless tuna, matthewtck has some rather...large...fangs. In fact, on further inspection, he appears to be a piranha, much feared. Pondering this strange twist, the school turns to each other to argue out another long day.

matthewtck, Piranha (mafia) and
Nakata Yuji, Tuna (town)
are now dead and out of the game.

Day 2 will end on September 14, or when a majority of votes has been reached. With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
Ph0X
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Joined March 2009
Ph0X
(strager)

Vote: Two
pieguyn
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pieguyn
Vote: Two

He seemed to want to lynch both Nakata Yuji and Mashley, who were both Town. And he didn't really have much of a reason for accusing Mashley, IMO. I think he secretly just wants to get townsfolk killed. I may be wrong, but it's the best I can do at this point.
rust45
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Joined May 2009
rust45
Gonna Vote: Two

For the same reason as the day before, being offensive to Nakata, and now with Nakata dead and being town, it makes me suspect him more.
0_o
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Joined December 2008
0_o
Why are you people saying he was trying to lynch Nataka? Two saw his role and unvoted, and also tried to convince everyone else not to vote for him.

EDIT: Sorry, gotta throw this in too. Statistically, the odds of lynching a townsperson (or fish) the first day is very high, especially since matthew was a predator and never had the chance to be incriminated. So imo the argument that Two started the Mashley lynch doesn't hold a whole lot of water.
pieguyn
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pieguyn
I meant before he unvoted. Also, Two could have done that whether he was Mafia or not.
Two_old
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Two_old
k first of all, rust45, I wasn't "offensive" to nakata, read 0_o's post

Second, I have a few things to confess to you all.

1. I never saw Nakata's role. I pretended that I did.

2. I did want Nakata to die, but I didn't want them to be lynched, so accusing me of lying about that is just stupid.

As you may have guessed from #2, I already knew that Nakata had the equivalent of a vanilla role in this game because of how they posted. I initially avoided talking about their role in the thread as much as possible so that the mafia would need to gamble on them being aux. The reason why I mentioned it in irc was so that other people could do my work (convincing mafia that nakata was valuable) for me.

I find a few things strange about the opening posts for today though. Why is it that people so readily started to bandwagon on someone who was against the lynching of the person who was night killed, and why has no one talked about the fact that two people died at night?
rust45
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rust45

Two wrote:

2. I did want Nakata to die, but I didn't want them to be lynched, so accusing me of lying about that is just stupid.
Please explain this, why would you want someone dead but not by lynch?
Two_old
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Two_old
if you'll look 1 line down I did explain it
Ph0X
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Ph0X
(Any post by Ph0X is a post by strager. I don't feel like posting this little disclaimer each time.)

Two wrote:

Why is it that people so readily started to bandwagon on someone who was against the lynching of the person who was night killed
WIFOM. This is certainly not a valid defense, nor is it a valid case against you.

Two wrote:

and why has no one talked about the fact that two people died at night?
Only those involved have an inclination to mention it. This is similar to Doctors (GA's in WWG terminology) commenting on the success of their protection the following day.

Your statement makes me further believe you were involved in one of the previous night's killings. You're therefore even closer to being a Mafia in my eyes (see my vote).
NoHitter
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Interesting turn of events.

Two wrote:

I did want Nakata to die, but I didn't want them to be lynched, so accusing me of lying about that is just stupid.
You claim you wanted to have Nakata be a "decoy". You wanted the mafia to nightkill him, because he would seem important to you.

Two wrote:

I already knew that Nakata had the equivalent of a vanilla role in this game because of how they posted.
Would you care to elaborate on this. This would make sense if you've seen Nakata's roleclaim, but you claim you didn't.

In effect you gambled on her being townie or not, yet your statements imply that you knew 100% that she was townie.
This is disturbing to me since the only people that know for sure whether someone is townie or not is scum.
Not to mention that if your explanation was accepted (Nakata is decoy), your actions the previous day would be somewhat reasonable.

On a side note: Even roleclaiming wouldn't guarantee without a shadow of a doubt that she was townie.

Vote: Two
Wojjan
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Vote: Two to get him to majority.
Two_old
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NoHItter wrote:

Two wrote:

I already knew that Nakata had the equivalent of a vanilla role in this game because of how they posted.
Would you care to elaborate on this. This would make sense if you've seen Nakata's roleclaim, but you claim you didn't.
How would me knowing based on how they posted only make sense "if I've seen their roleclaim"?

Yeah I did know 100% that they were town and I did know 100% that they were vanilla. If strager and Wojjan didn't know this too after all the games that they've played, well then I'm disappointed. In effect it pretty much proves to me that strager and Wojjan aren't mafia.
Ph0X
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Two wrote:

In effect it pretty much proves to me that strager and Wojjan aren't mafia.
???

I don't see your logic.
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I think you should stop being 100% sure of things, Two; if I recall correctly you said Wojjan was 100% town last game as well. Also there AREN'T any vanilla roles this game:

OP wrote:

Furthermore, while there will be near-vanilla roles, EVERY role has at least one night action. This will hopefully keep the game more interesting and involving for the players.
Everybody has a role that's at least somewhat interesting.

But here's what baffles me about your post: If Nataka posted his role, and nobody saw it, then how did you know he posted his role?
Disregard that, I can't read.
Ph0X
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0_o wrote:

I think you should stop being 100% sure of things, Two; if I recall correctly you said Wojjan was 100% town last game as well. Also there AREN'T any vanilla roles this game:

OP wrote:

Furthermore, while there will be near-vanilla roles, EVERY role has at least one night action. This will hopefully keep the game more interesting and involving for the players.
Everybody has a role that's at least somewhat interesting.
I've had a theory about this (and not in response to Two's comment; this goes back to Day 1). I guess it's time to make that theory public.

I think the vanilla role has "splash". Mashley had it, and I have it. Based on his/her comments, Nakata probably had it. It seems like a very "vanilla" role to me. I splashed last night and from what I can see, nothing happened. I really do doubt something significant did happen, especially given the name and the likely reference to Pokémon.

I can only assume this is what Two has noticed as well, thus deeming a splashing role as a vanilla role.

The main reason I make this public is because this information could probably be used to form trusts. Obviously, if Two knows about this (and I'm assuming he does), and if Two is Mafia, the Mafia know about this. I don't want false trust going around. (Hopefully I'm making sense. I'm kinda tired.)
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Two wrote:

In effect it pretty much proves to me that strager and Wojjan aren't mafia.
This is just bullshit reasoning. You knoow we aren't mafia because you know who the mafia is.
Two_old
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0_o wrote:

I think you should stop being 100% sure of things, Two; if I recall correctly you said Wojjan was 100% town last game as well.
if you wanna talk about last game, I kept saying that Wojjan was 100% human even after I knew he wasn't

I don't remember if I said he was definitely human when I didn't know for sure or not (I only remember claiming that Chris and strager were 100% human when I roleclaimed), but either way it doesn't matter

And while we are on the subject of last game, wojjan, I've known you weren't mafia since the start of this game because of your aggressive playstyle last game when you were a wolf. This game you've been very passive, almost annoyingly so.

And for the record I can splash too. I'm pretty sure every role can splash.
Ph0X
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Ph0X wrote:

Two wrote:

In effect it pretty much proves to me that strager and Wojjan aren't mafia.
???

I don't see your logic.
Can you please explain your logic, Two?

Also, the post you just made is complete garbage.
rust45
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Two wrote:

And for the record I can splash too. I'm pretty sure every role can splash.
If every role can splash, then that means there are no aux roles, meaning there couldn't have been a scum killed. Which there was.
Two_old
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I did explain my logic. It should have been obvious to everyone who has played as much as the 3 of us that Nakata was vanilla. So, the chances of you or Wojjan not realizing that and nightkilling Nakata are next to none. And like I just said, Wojjan is playing completely differently this game than last game, and even though they're experienced I doubt they consciously made a decision to change that dramatically.

and rust45 I'm waiting for a post from you that makes any sense at all
Ph0X
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Two wrote:

I did explain my logic. It should have been obvious to everyone who has played as much as the 3 of us that Nakata was vanilla. So, the chances of you or Wojjan not realizing that and nightkilling Nakata are next to none. And like I just said, Wojjan is playing completely differently this game than last game, and even though they're experienced I doubt they consciously made a decision to change that dramatically.
I don't consider WIFOM "logic".

Two wrote:

and rust45 I'm waiting for a post from you that makes any sense at all
rust's comment makes sense to me.

If all (non-Mafia) roles are "you can splash", how did two night killings occur? You brought up both points, and they seem to contradict each other. Please shed some light (or just admit you're scum so we can move on).
Two_old
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Okay, I will shed some light.

1. Roles can have more than one action. I believe that every role can splash.

2. You can only use one of your actions per night.

3. Either tuna isn't vanilla and killing Nakata made matthewtck die, or one of the roles with more than one action opted not to splash and instead kill matthewtck.

Is that what you were looking for, strager?
rust45
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Maybe the mod can solve this.

Mod: Is it possible for a role to have multiple actions?
Yuukari-Banteki
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Some players may have multiple potential actions. If this is the case, they may take up to one of these actions each night.
NoHitter
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Two wrote:

Yeah I did know 100% that they were town and I did know 100% that they were vanilla.

Two wrote:

It should have been obvious to everyone who has played as much as the 3 of us that Nakata was vanilla
Even with the "Splash" argument, you cannot be 100% certain that someone is town. After all, you yourself said every role can splash.
Just explain what led you to believe that Nakata was 100% townie.

I'm also surprised at how Wojjan just put Two at L-1 just so casually without explaining.

Two himself hasn't really answered my questions yet, and I believe that it's too early for a lynch.
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But still, Two you're the most suspicious so far.
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