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Fukuyama Yoshiki - Makka na Chikai

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Soaprman
1,392 posts
Joined January 2008
Soaprman
And I'm back.

All Difficulties

Set divisor to 1/4, then timing > resnap all notes. You have a few that are slightly unsnapped here and there and this would be the best way to fix them all. Double-check to make sure nothing sounds off after doing this.

A few sliders end earlier than they maybe should but it's not a big deal. Comb through and change them or don't. It's up to you.

You'll notice in the following comments that I sometimes mention moving things 1/2 beat over or something. There are probably a few of these I missed. I don't comb through things through the editor that much when I mod. If I missed any, I'm sure you can find them easily by playing the map a few more times.

01:30:026 (x) - A little odd that the little 4-hit drumroll here isn't mapped. Maybe continue the ending slider or add a bouncing slider or a stack or something.

Easy

00:44:272 (1) - move a beat later, then end 1/2 beat sooner.

00:49:809 (1,2,3) - might trip new players up? Moving 3 left of 2 would be enough.

00:55:439 (2,3) - move these slightly right on the timeline so they land on the red lines.

01:06:674 (1) - move 1 beat later, then move the endpoint slightly left to the white line.

Normal

00:44:272 (1) - move a beat later, then end 1/2 beat sooner. Just like on Easy.

Hard

00:05:864 (6) - move 1/4 beat earlier.

00:26:053 (1,2) - move these two right on the timeline to the next white lines.

00:37:647 (3) - sounds a little out of place, I dunno.

Insane

Some might complain that this is overmapped. I like it though. "Your Mileage May Vary"

00:14:051 (2) - This stack (and others like it) seem a little out of place. They're not really problems but I can't say they won't be brought up in any future mod posts you might receive. :P

00:20:864 (8) - move 1/4 beat later.

00:21:269 (9) - end 1/4 beat later.

^ there are quite a few more like these. I'm not going to go find every one of them for you, though.

01:27:433 (1) - consider removing some of the new combo markers from this stack. that thing will be a little annoying to play in tag coop. not that anyone has to map with coop in mind, but...

Conclusion

What you have now is an ENORMOUS improvement over what you had just a couple days ago when I last modded this. Well done. You'll only get better from here.

Here's a star. You earned it.
Shiro
Global Moderator
4,984 posts
Joined May 2009
Shiro
to change absolutely
not great, to change if possible
suggestions

Title should be Makka na Chikai (TV size).

Easy :
Resnap all notes.

Normal :
00:01:161 (1) - Remove the Whistle hitsound.
00:19:647 - Add a note.
00:46:728 (1) - Remove the Finish hitsound.
00:47:539 (1,2) - Remove the Finish hitsound.
00:48:999 (4) - Remove the Finish hitsound.
00:54:674 (2) - Second note should be here : 00:54:593 -

Hard :
There are too many stacked notes, you should consider finding patterns.
00:01:161 (1) - Remove the Whistle hitsound.
00:35:864 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Remove one of the two hitsounds, this is way too noisy.
00:37:647 (3) - This one is too fast. Should be two ticks separating the beats.
00:41:864 (1,2,3,4,5) - Remove one of the hitsounds, this is way too noisy.

Insane :
Notes everywhere ._. I suck at insane maps, so I'll just say nothing. Though, there are a lot of streams, remove the hitsounds on them and try adding some whistles/claps for taiko players :p
Zetsubou Sensei
295 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei
Done, Thanks Odaril
(although chaning the title caused a little problem... :( but it was fixed :) )
Cecilia
111 posts
Joined March 2009
Cecilia
good luck~ :]
Faust
osu! Alumni
4,785 posts
Joined January 2009
Faust
In-game Modding @ modReqs.

Fixed the miscellaneous problems with difficulties Normal to Insane.

Good song, simple but fun map. :)
hime_nikki04
89 posts
Joined April 2010
hime_nikki04
Before I start, I'd like to give you a star ~ This is one of my favorite anime openings and you handled it very well!

Easy:
Just a preference but I like the circles to be large for this one.
The slider speed is far too fast, especially for easy. Try lowering it down to 0.80 and resnap the notes.
I think the spinner beginning at 00:44:215 should last until 00:45:916.
The spinner beginning at 01:06:350 should last until 01:08:721.

Normal:
Watch the spacing on this one. The notes are too far apart, especially at the beginning.
The slider speed is way too fast.
The slider beginning at 00:10:242 should last until 00:10:983.
The note right after that at 00:11:053 needs to be moved closer to the slider.
I don't like that cluster of single notes beginning at 00:16:728... it doesn't seem fitting for a normal level.
Tatsuo
575 posts
Joined January 2009
Tatsuo
Hai you~

Will mod in a bit. Just hold on
Shiro
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Joined May 2009
Shiro
Major issues in the map: it is highly recommended to fix them.
Minor issue in the map: you don't have to follow them exactly, but I recommend you to.
Suggestions: those are personal opinions, feel free to follow them or not.
Comments.
If there's one red line in the whole mod post, or three blue lines, I won't star the map.

Easy:
That's a Normal diff. It has too many notes on half ticks and too many non-simple rythms, even if you follow the vocals.
I think you should re-map it with simple rythms.

Normal:
This feels like a Hard for me... ._.
00:01:161 (1) - Now that's a retarded beginning for a Normal diff. Sliders are too fast.
01:00:593 (2) - UNSNAPPED !
00:05:053 (1) - Don't use such weird-shaped sliders in a Normal diff... Plus they're really ugly.
00:13:972 (1) - This one makes no sense. You've been following the vocals so far, why would add notes here when it's not needed ?
00:20:458 (1) - ^
00:54:350 (1,2,3) - Turn them into one repeat slider.
01:10:891 (1,2) - hitsounds ç_ç also make them one repeat slider. Same for the next ones.
01:30:026 (3) - For a retarded beginning, a retarded end, that's some form of logic.

Hard:
Doesn't have a background.
00:15:760 (2) - UNSNAPPED !
00:22:238 (3) - ^
00:22:398 (4) - ^

Insane:
> 1/6 snap divisor with BPM 185 and three other diffs mapped with 1/4
> slider velocity 2,60
> 83 unspanned objects
ç_ç...
Also, it has no background.
Resnap all notes and reduce slider velocity, and re-map with 1/4 snap divisor (unless the 1/6 was an error when you saved)

Overall, this map still needs a lot of work, especially with the hitsounds that are way too noisy... But some patterns are nice to play and you have some good ideas. Keep trying and think of every mistake as a lesson =o

Tell me when you have fixed all that, I want to recheck this.
abcde1234qaz
120 posts
Joined September 2009
abcde1234qaz
star~ :3
Zetsubou Sensei
295 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei
Easy:
That's a Normal diff. It has too many notes on half ticks and too many non-simple rythms, even if you follow the vocals.
I think you should re-map it with simple rythms. Fixed the half note problems...and i changed some notes to make it easier...but i think that how it follows the vocals is fine.

Normal:
This feels like a Hard for me... ._.
00:01:161 (1) - Now that's a retarded beginning for a Normal diff. Sliders are too fast.
01:00:593 (2) - UNSNAPPED ! Fixed.
[/they're really ugly. There different...
00:13:972 (1) - This one makes no sense. You've been following the vocals so far, why would add notes here when it's not needed ?
00:20:458 (1) - ^[/color] This is fine. It does go with the vocals.
00:54:350 (1,2,3) - Turn them into one repeat slider.
01:10:891 (1,2) - hitsounds ç_ç also make them one repeat slider. Same for the next ones.
01:30:026 (3) - For a retarded beginning, a retarded end, that's some form of logic. It catches the ending drums...Its fine..

Hard:
Doesn't have a background. Yes it does...?
00:15:760 (2) - UNSNAPPED !
00:22:238 (3) - ^
00:22:398 (4) - ^
Fixed.
Insane:
> 1/6 snap divisor with BPM 185 and three other diffs mapped with 1/4
> slider velocity 2,60
> 83 unspanned objects Fixed.
ç_ç...
Also, it has no background.There should be... >.>
Resnap all notes and reduce slider velocity, and re-map with 1/4 snap divisor (unless the 1/6 was an error when you saved) I thought I did have it on 1/4 ... :P

Fixed.

[/quote]

Thanks.
roflninja
348 posts
Joined October 2009
roflninja
Hi,

[easy]
00:11:539 (1) - end at 00:13:323 or 00:13:485 ?
00:26:468 (2) - unsnapped
00:29:458 (1,2) - move forward 1/4 tick so there on red ticks
00:44:215 (1) - move forward 1/4 tick so it starts/ends on white ticks
01:12:107 (2) - ^

[normal]
00:44:215 (1) - start at 00:44:296 and end at 00:45:918 ?

[hard]
00:35:864 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - maybe do something like this?
01:08:458 (x) - add something like this?

[insane]
00:18:674 (5) - new combo?
00:19:161 (1) - if you do ^ no new combo?
00:23:782 (5) - start at 00:23:864 and end at the same time, and new combo?
00:24:431 (1) - start at 00:24:350 and end at the same (and if you do the new combo on ^, no new combo?)
00:29:458 (1) - move to 00:29:539 ?
00:34:080 (1) - no new combo?
00:35:782 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - move forward 1/4 tick so (3) starts at 00:35:864 and (9) at 00:36:350 ?
00:43:242 (3,4,5) - move forward 1/4 tick
00:44:377 (6) - ^
00:57:836 (2) - ^
01:01:918 (5) - move to 01:01:972 ?
01:02:350 (1) - move to 01:02:458 ?
01:02:728 (2) - move to 01:02:782 ?
01:06:593 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - move forward 1/4 tick?
01:14:620 (6) - end at 01:15:431 ?

looks good
Zetsubou Sensei
295 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei

roflninja wrote:

Hi,

[easy]
00:11:539 (1) - end at 00:13:323 or 00:13:485 ? Fixed.
00:26:468 (2) - unsnapped Fixed.
00:29:458 (1,2) - move forward 1/4 tick so there on red ticks Fixed.
00:44:215 (1) - move forward 1/4 tick so it starts/ends on white ticks Fixed.
01:12:107 (2) - ^ Fixed.

[normal]
00:44:215 (1) - start at 00:44:296 and end at 00:45:918 ? It does sound alot better like that.

[hard]
00:35:864 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - maybe do something like this? Fixed.
01:08:458 (x) - add something like this? Seems better.

[insane]
00:18:674 (5) - new combo? Sure, why not :P
00:19:161 (1) - if you do ^ no new combo?
00:23:782 (5) - start at 00:23:864 and end at the same time, and new combo? Fixed.
00:24:431 (1) - start at 00:24:350 and end at the same (and if you do the new combo on ^, no new combo?) Fixed.
00:29:458 (1) - move to 00:29:539 ? Sounds better.
00:34:080 (1) - no new combo? Fixed.
00:35:782 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - move forward 1/4 tick so (3) starts at 00:35:864 and (9) at 00:36:350 ? Fixed.
00:43:242 (3,4,5) - move forward 1/4 tick Fixed.
00:44:377 (6) - ^ Fixed.
00:57:836 (2) - ^ Fixed.
01:01:918 (5) - move to 01:01:972 ? Fixed.
01:02:350 (1) - move to 01:02:458 ? Fixed.
01:02:728 (2) - move to 01:02:782 ? Fixed.
01:06:593 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - move forward 1/4 tick? Fixed.
01:14:620 (6) - end at 01:15:431 ? Fixed.
Thanks for the help.
Leorda
4,416 posts
Joined June 2009
Leorda
Ohai

[General]
1) I think Audio Lead-in is 2, maybe? Please set the Lead-in 2, and make sure you set Lead-in 2 on each diff
2) All bg need to resize to 800x600
3) Please remove the useless whistle and finish hitsound, it can be hurt player's ear

[Easy]
00:36:999 (2) - The slider is too short for easy diff
00:39:755 (5) - ^
00:49:323 (4) - The slider is too short for easy diff
00:52:728 (2) - ^
01:02:782 (2,3) - Spacing error
01:30:026 (3) - The slider is too short for easy diff

[Normal]
Overall Difficulty +2

01:00:593 (2) - Move forward to red tick
01:16:080 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This sound is too loud
01:21:269 (3,4) - ^

[Hard]
00:04:080 (4) - Move 1 grid left?
01:27:431 (1,1) - Sound noisy to me

[Insane]
00:13:891 (1,2,3,4,5) - Move backward to white tick
00:21:918 (1,2,3,4) - Move forward to white tick
01:27:431 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This sound is too loud

Nice song
STAR
Zetsubou Sensei
295 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei

Leorda wrote:

Ohai

[General]
1) I think Audio Lead-in is 2, maybe? Please set the Lead-in 2, and make sure you set Lead-in 2 on each diff Fixed.
2) All bg need to resize to 800x600 Fixed.
3) Please remove the useless whistle and finish hitsound, it can be hurt player's ear Fixed.

[Easy]
00:36:999 (2) - The slider is too short for easy diff
00:39:755 (5) - ^
00:49:323 (4) - The slider is too short for easy diff
00:52:728 (2) - ^
01:02:782 (2,3) - Spacing error
01:30:026 (3) - The slider is too short for easy diff
Fixed.

[Normal]
Overall Difficulty +2

01:00:593 (2) - Move forward to red tick
01:16:080 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This sound is too loud
01:21:269 (3,4) - ^
Fixed.

[Hard]
00:04:080 (4) - Move 1 grid left?
01:27:431 (1,1) - Sound noisy to me
Fixed.

[Insane]
00:13:891 (1,2,3,4,5) - Move backward to white tick
00:21:918 (1,2,3,4) - Move forward to white tick
01:27:431 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This sound is too loud
Fixed.

Nice song
STAR
Thanks
banvi
1,793 posts
Joined June 2009
banvi
nice map!
Good Luck! ;)
Tatsuo
575 posts
Joined January 2009
Tatsuo
Hai, sorry for the long wait. Here's my mod.

[Overall]
Delete the .osb from your songs folder and full submit.

[Easy]
01:10:891 - I suggest starting your Kiai time here, since you have a big gap where there are no notes.

[Normal]
00:05:053 (1) - Bleh, not too fond of the sliders that look like this. You have alot like these in this difficulty. It's fine though, It's just my personal nagging.

[Hard]
I understand for your easier difficulties to map to the lyrics, but for this difficulty, you map too much to them, I suggest you fill in those empty spots with notes following the background music.
Distance snap is a bit low in this difficulty.

[Insane]
This difficulty makes me go blah.
This difficulty is okay.
01:07:512 (4) - Unsnapped LOL
01:07:674 (5) - ^

Solid mapset. Star.
*star*
Zetsubou Sensei
295 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei

I_Tatsuo_I wrote:

Hai, sorry for the long wait. Here's my mod.

[Overall]
Delete the .osb from your songs folder and full submit. Fixed.

[Hard]
I understand for your easier difficulties to map to the lyrics, but for this difficulty, you map too much to them, I suggest you fill in those empty spots with notes following the background music.
Distance snap is a bit low in this difficulty.
Fixed.


[Insane]
This difficulty makes me go blah.
This difficulty is okay.
01:07:512 (4) - Unsnapped LOL
01:07:674 (5) - ^
Fixed.

Solid mapset. Star.
*star*
Thanks!
EvianBubble
339 posts
Joined October 2009
EvianBubble
Hai there :O The song ... is awesome, BTW XD

Easy
This is pretty hard for an easy ... maybe rename it Easy+?
I think slider velocity is pretty fast. I know it's slower than normal but it's because of your BPM. Lower it even more?
I also think you should lower HP drain ... HP -1
Fix your green timing lines (inherited sections) - they're not on the beat
Kiai time felt really long to me ... but during all of it the music felt right since it was obviously the chorus ... yea, just saying :S
00:05:053 (4) - Move two grids right - your spacing seems to change a bit, so I'm going to choose the one that's closer together since this is an "easy" after all
00:13:972 (1) - This might just be me sucking at spinners (read: it probably is), but I missed the beginning of this. Repeatedly. Maybe start this at 00:14:134 (the white tick) instead?
00:15:269 (2, 3) - Unstack these. I thought they were a beat apart, but they're a beat and a half. Move (2) down until there's 2 grids in between it and (3) (that is, outside the yellow outer circle) (I'm not too sure about the space in between, but I suggest 2 or 3 grids). The spacing SHOULD help figure out when to hit (3)
00:16:728 (5) - Move one grid left
00:20:458 (1, 2) - Move two grids up
00:21:918 (4) - Move one right
00:24:350 - (1, 2) - Ehrm, so about your spacing - do you want notes one beat apart to have their outer coloured circles touching, or one grid in between them? Whatever it is, pick one and stick to it. I'm assuming you want them touching. Move (2) up one and (1) up two
Uhm. I'm not going to point out every single spacing mistake here, so only the ones that are major will get attention now, so please check over your spacing (I hate it when people tell me this, too, but really, it's for the good of your map)
00:53:539 (3) - Make this slider curve more so it doesn't overlap with (1)
00:54:350 (1) - Move up one grid
00:59:377 (end of 1, 2) - Wow, what happened here? This slider ends at the TOP, right? The way you have it now makes me think like it'll end at the BOTTOM. Even though the spacing between the beginning of (1) and (2) are technically right (for your one grid in between, that is) it just looks really confusing. Can you re - design this bit? Maybe have the slider curve the other way and put (2) closer to the start of it?
01:08:296 - Break?
01:16:080 (1) - Isn't this a bit low? I know it's still on screen when playing, but still ... move up a bit?

... I feel like I'm writing a freaking wall of text >_<

Normal
This is pretty hard for a normal too ... I can usually pass them on the first go and I was like T_T (but I'm kind of a noob at Osu! so ... that might be it XD) Call it Normal+?
Oh god. The HP drain D: especially with the random breaks. HP -1
00:05:864 (2) - Move up one grid
00:16:728 (1 - 4) - I know these are only half beats, but with BPM this fast, it's like ... *clickclickclickclick* ... but it sounds good D: Uh ... yea, I wouldn't comment if I was pro player lol
00:17:701 and 00:18:350 - Add notes here, just to tide over the "break" you have
00:21:918 (3) - Move one grid down
00:20:458 (1) - This would sound better as one long slider, without repeats IMO
00:22:891 and 00:23:539 (maybe 00:23:864 as well?) - Add circles here
00:30:674 (1) - Move one down to align with (3)? Also un - new combo
00:31:323 (2) - New combo
00:32:296 (1) - Un - new combo? Unsure about this, your choice
00:33:918 - Break?
00:42:350 (4) - Too far from the end of (3), can you kind of make this curve less ish and move it down?
00:47:539 (1) - Move two grids right, also un - new combo?
00:48:512 (3) - New combo here instead?
00:57:918 (2) - What happened to the spacing here O_O Switch positions of (2) and (3) then re - position
01:06:674 - Please put Kiai time directly onto the beat here
01:08:945 - Break?
01:19:972 (2) - What is with the design of this slider? Why does it awkwardly go up before going down? Remove that slider point. Also, end this slider at 01:20:620 (white tick)
01:21:269 (3) - New combo

Ugh. I wrote so much. So yea, I only got through 2 difficulties today (not sure I'd be much help on the others actually, since I fail at insanes). I'll check them with my recheck (assuming you update this by tomorrow) XD
So yea, good luck with your map! :D
Frill
514 posts
Joined March 2010
Frill
gooooooooooood
Zetsubou Sensei
295 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei

EvianBubble wrote:

Hai there :O The song ... is awesome, BTW XD

Easy
This is pretty hard for an easy ... maybe rename it Easy+? Fine to me.
I think slider velocity is pretty fast. I know it's slower than normal but it's because of your BPM. Lower it even more? Velocity seems fine to me.
I also think you should lower HP drain ... HP -1 Fixed.
Fix your green timing lines (inherited sections) - they're not on the beat Fixed.
Kiai time felt really long to me ... but during all of it the music felt right since it was obviously the chorus ... yea, just saying :S Kiai time is fine to me.
00:05:053 (4) - Move two grids right - your spacing seems to change a bit, so I'm going to choose the one that's closer together since this is an "easy" after all Seems fine the way it is.
00:13:972 (1) - This might just be me sucking at spinners (read: it probably is), but I missed the beginning of this. Repeatedly. Maybe start this at 00:14:134 (the white tick) instead? Its fine how it is.
00:15:269 (2, 3) - Unstack these. I thought they were a beat apart, but they're a beat and a half. Move (2) down until there's 2 grids in between it and (3) (that is, outside the yellow outer circle) (I'm not too sure about the space in between, but I suggest 2 or 3 grids). The spacing SHOULD help figure out when to hit (3) I believe that having these stacked is fine.

Normal
This is pretty hard for a normal too ... I can usually pass them on the first go and I was like T_T (but I'm kind of a noob at Osu! so ... that might be it XD) Call it Normal+? Its fine how it is...
Oh god. The HP drain D: especially with the random breaks. HP -1 Its fine...
01:06:674 - Please put Kiai time directly onto the beat here[Fixed.
01:19:972 (2) - What is with the design of this slider? Why does it awkwardly go up before going down? Remove that slider point. Also, end this slider at 01:20:620 (white tick)Fixed.
01:21:269 (3) - New comboFixed.

Ugh. I wrote so much. So yea, I only got through 2 difficulties today (not sure I'd be much help on the others actually, since I fail at insanes). I'll check them with my recheck (assuming you update this by tomorrow) XD
So yea, good luck with your map! :D
[/quote]

Thanks
Mizu_banned
Mizu_banned
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wmfchris
osu! Alumni
5,072 posts
Joined March 2008
wmfchris
[insane]
0:02:782 (1) The vocal lasts 1/2 beats but this is a 3/4 beat slider... strange. Same as 0:04:080
0:05:215 (3,4,1) uneven spacing between these 3 notes. (1) left 1 grid.
0:10:566 (x) Refer to vocal add one here?
0:38:945 (3,4,5,6) make a stright line. e.g., (5) left+down 1 grid, (6) left+down 2 grids
0:50:296 (3) minor spacing problem, right 1 grid

[hard]
0:23:864 (1) Adjust the ending point so that it ends on the y-axis.

(Maybe need some breaks like hard :109 2:69, and some other in insane?)
star.
Shiro
Global Moderator
4,984 posts
Joined May 2009
Shiro
Major issues in the map: it is highly recommended to fix them.
Minor issue in the map: you don't have to follow them exactly, but I recommend you to.
Suggestions: those are personal opinions, feel free to follow them or not.
Comments.
If there's one red line in the whole mod post, or three blue lines, I won't star the map.

Easy:
That's a lot better than the first time I played.
You shouldn't use 1/4 snapping for an Easy diff.
00:13:972 (1) - This note appears too early after the spinner.
00:41:053 (1,2) - Clap+Finish isn't a good thing.
00:48:512 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - This might be too hard for an Easy diff. Turn (2,3) - and (2,3) in the other combo - into a slider.
00:49:485 (5) - Should be 1/2 tick later. (then turn (5,1) into a slider)
00:58:728 (1,2) - This is too hard for a new player. Consider replacing the repeat slider with 4 notes placed this way in the timeline: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/18989
01:28:728 (2) - This one should end one beat later.

Normal:
00:01:161 (1) - I really HATE this slider but removing it or not is up to you.
00:41:053 (1,2) - Clap+Finish is not a good thing.
00:48:999 (4) - This slider makes no sense according to the vocals or the music. Replace it by 3 circles, and remove the second.
00:52:404 (2) - ^
01:30:026 (3) - I really HATE this slider, but removing it or not is up to you.

Hard:
Way better then previously.

Insane:
You don't need an Insane diff... Especially not one that is overmapped.

Overall, this was way better than when I first modded it, although some errors remain unfixed... You're on the right way, keep on working hard !
Zetsubou Sensei
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Zetsubou Sensei

wmfchris wrote:

[insane]
0:02:782 (1) The vocal lasts 1/2 beats but this is a 3/4 beat slider... strange. Same as 0:04:080 Fixed.
0:05:215 (3,4,1) uneven spacing between these 3 notes. (1) left 1 grid.
0:10:566 (x) Refer to vocal add one here?
0:38:945 (3,4,5,6) make a stright line. e.g., (5) left+down 1 grid, (6) left+down 2 grids
0:50:296 (3) minor spacing problem, right 1 grid
.Fixed.
[hard]
0:23:864 (1) Adjust the ending point so that it ends on the y-axis.Fixed.

(Maybe need some breaks like hard :109 2:69, and some other in insane?)
star.
Thanks~
Zetsubou Sensei
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Zetsubou Sensei
Easy:
That's a lot better than the first time I played.
You shouldn't use 1/4 snapping for an Easy diff.
00:13:972 (1) - This note appears too early after the spinner.
00:41:053 (1,2) - Clap+Finish isn't a good thing.
00:48:512 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - This might be too hard for an Easy diff. Turn (2,3) - and (2,3) in the other combo - into a slider.
00:49:485 (5) - Should be 1/2 tick later. (then turn (5,1) into a slider)
00:58:728 (1,2) - This is too hard for a new player. Consider replacing the repeat slider with 4 notes placed this way in the timeline: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/18989
01:28:728 (2) - This one should end one beat later.
Fixed.

Normal:
00:01:161 (1) - I really HATE this slider but removing it or not is up to you.
00:41:053 (1,2) - Clap+Finish is not a good thing.
00:48:999 (4) - This slider makes no sense according to the vocals or the music. Replace it by 3 circles, and remove the second.
00:52:404 (2) - ^
Fixed.

Hard:
Way better then previously.
Thanks.

Insane:
You don't need an Insane diff... Especially not one that is overmapped.
If more people complain about it, I'll consider removing it.

Overall, this was way better than when I first modded it, although some errors remain unfixed... You're on the right way, keep on working hard ![/quote]

Thanks~
bearing019
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bearing019
Normal;

01:30:026 (3) - I don't like 1/4 repeat sliders in a normal, make into a single 1/2 long slider.

Hard;

00:55:809 (3) - End on the white tick.
01:02:377 (1,2) - 1/4 forward.
01:04:972 (3) - ^

Insane;

This is stupid. None of the 1/4 notes fit or are needed. Personally, I'd delete this difficulty. Nonetheless...
00:07:728 (6) - Delete, and put the clap on the previous circle.
00:41:864 (3) - No repeat...
00:42:350 (X) - ...and put a circle here.
01:28:728 (1) - End on the red tick, like the other difficulties.
Zetsubou Sensei
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Zetsubou Sensei

DiamondCrash wrote:

Normal;

01:30:026 (3) - I don't like 1/4 repeat sliders in a normal, make into a single 1/2 long slider.
Fixed.

Hard;

00:55:809 (3) - End on the white tick.
01:02:377 (1,2) - 1/4 forward.
01:04:972 (3) - ^
Fixed.

Insane;

This is stupid. None of the 1/4 notes fit or are needed. Personally, I'd delete this difficulty. Nonetheless...
00:07:728 (6) - Delete, and put the clap on the previous circle.
00:41:864 (3) - No repeat...
00:42:350 (X) - ...and put a circle here.
01:28:728 (1) - End on the red tick, like the other difficulties.
I will delete this difficulty!

Thanks!
Shiro
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Shiro
Major issues in the map: it is highly recommended to fix them.
Minor issue in the map: you don't have to follow them exactly, but I recommend you to.
Suggestions: those are personal opinions, feel free to follow them or not.
Comments.
If there's one red line in the whole mod post, or three blue lines, I won't star the map.

General:
I don't know how I didn't notice that before, but offset of 1177ms sounds better to me.
Also you should find better combo colours.

Easy:
01:18:999 (4) - This slider is really loud with Finish, remove the hitsound.

Normal:
You removed the slider at the beginning ! thxthxthxthxthxthxthxthxthx
00:15:269 (1,1) - No new combo ? They all belong to the same sentence in the lyrics, I think it's more logical to have them in the same combo.
00:20:458 (1) - ^
00:26:134 (1) - ^
00:30:674 (1,1) - ^
00:36:999 (1) - ^
00:37:647 (2) - New combo.
00:38:945 (1) - No new combo.
00:47:539 (1) - No new combo.
00:48:512 (3) - New combo.
00:49:647 (1) - No new combo.
00:53:539 (1,1) - ^
01:13:485 (3) - New combo.
01:13:809 (1) - No new combo.
01:14:620 (1) - ^
01:19:809 (1) - ^
You removed the slider at the end ! thxthxthxthxthxthxthxthxthx

Hard:
Nothing to say.

You removed the Insane ! thxthxthxthxthxthxthxthxthx

STAR~ you deserve it
And a kudostar (my first!) for your efforts.
Zetsubou Sensei
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Easy:
01:18:999 (4) - This slider is really loud with Finish, remove the hitsound.
Fixed.

Normal:
You removed the slider at the beginning ! thxthxthxthxthxthxthxthxthxNo problem...plus it seemed out of place for normal.
You removed the slider at the end ! thxthxthxthxthxthxthxthxthx
Fixed up most of the colors.

Hard:
Nothing to say.
:)

You removed the Insane ! thxthxthxthxthxthxthxthxthx
It did kinda feel out there.... :P Hard seemed good enough, also I got another reccomendation bout it, so byebye!

STAR~ you deserve it
And a kudostar (my first!) for your efforts.[/quote]

:) YAY! Thanks for your help!
Mashley
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Mashley
Offset should be 1,815. I think the difficulty names should all be shifted up.
The current combo colours look awkward against the backgrounds. Pick some more fitting ones.

Easy
Such a low res background here... could you use a higher quality one please?
01:08:296 - Stick some notes here, or a break? It's weird to have this empty space.

Normal
Feels reeeaaally similar to Easy. Change it up a bit to make it harder, or perhaps make the circles bigger on Easy.
00:33:918 - Break here, like on easy
01:08:620 - Empty space again :

Hard
00:01:161 (1) - Add another reverse
00:30:674 (1) - Remove new combo
00:32:296 (1) - ^
00:36:999 (1) - ^
00:37:647 (3) - Add new combo
00:38:134 (1) - Remove new combo
00:39:431 (1) - ^
00:44:377 (5) - Move 1/4 later
00:47:539 (1) - Remove new combo
00:51:188 (4) - Move 1/4 earlier and lengthen by 1/4
00:52:891 (1) - Remove new combo
00:53:701 (1) - ^
00:58:080 (1) - ^
00:59:377 (1) - ^
01:00:188 (12) - Add new combo
01:00:836 (14) - Shorten by 1/4
01:04:161 (1) - Remove new combo
01:07:485 (1) - ^
Zetsubou Sensei
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Zetsubou Sensei

Mashley wrote:

Offset should be 1,815. I think the difficulty names should all be shifted up.
The current combo colours look awkward against the backgrounds. Pick some more fitting ones.
Fixed.

Easy
Such a low res background here... could you use a higher quality one please?
01:08:296 - Stick some notes here, or a break? It's weird to have this empty space.
Fixed.

Normal
00:33:918 - Break here, like on easy
01:08:620 - Empty space again :
Fixed.

Hard
00:01:161 (1) - Add another reverse
00:30:674 (1) - Remove new combo
00:32:296 (1) - ^
00:36:999 (1) - ^
00:37:647 (3) - Add new combo
00:38:134 (1) - Remove new combo
00:39:431 (1) - ^
00:47:539 (1) - Remove new combo
00:51:188 (4) - Move 1/4 earlier and lengthen by 1/4
00:52:891 (1) - Remove new combo
00:53:701 (1) - ^
00:58:080 (1) - ^
00:59:377 (1) - ^
01:00:188 (12) - Add new combo
01:00:836 (14) - Shorten by 1/4
01:04:161 (1) - Remove new combo
01:07:485 (1) - ^
Fixed.


Thanks.
0_o
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0_o
Easy
00:15:274 (2,3) - Stacked notes like this are pretty tricky for newbies since the hitcircle of the bottom one is obscured. I would recommend unstacking them.
00:16:733 (1) - Remove new combo
01:08:463 (1) - Recovering after spinners is one of the trickiest techniques to get down for new players. Personally I think it plays fine to remove this and make this into a little break.
01:25:490 (1,1,2,3) - Same as above. Although personally, I would map the spot where you have the spinner now, and have a spinner from 01:27:436 - 01:28:733 to finish the map. Makes a better ending imo.

Normal
00:02:139 (2,3) - Perhaps make these a vertical flip of each other? Also I would move 3 over to the right and up a little bit to line it up with 2 and to avoid the ugly overlap.
01:09:923 (1) - Hmm, this sounds better ending 1/2 later, but that would make it too long.. maybe make this into a 1/1 length repeat slider?
01:25:652 - Same advice as Easy

Hard
00:34:896 (1) - Extend by 1/2
00:48:517 (1,2,3) - Spacing ;_;
01:09:274 - Why the empty space?

^_^
*
Zetsubou Sensei
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Zetsubou Sensei

0_o wrote:

Easy
00:15:274 (2,3) - Stacked notes like this are pretty tricky for newbies since the hitcircle of the bottom one is obscured. I would recommend unstacking them.
00:16:733 (1) - Remove new combo
01:08:463 (1) - Recovering after spinners is one of the trickiest techniques to get down for new players. Personally I think it plays fine to remove this and make this into a little break.
01:25:490 (1,1,2,3) - Same as above. Although personally, I would map the spot where you have the spinner now, and have a spinner from 01:27:436 - 01:28:733 to finish the map. Makes a better ending imo.
Fixed.

Normal
00:02:139 (2,3) - Perhaps make these a vertical flip of each other? Also I would move 3 over to the right and up a little bit to line it up with 2 and to avoid the ugly overlap.
01:09:923 (1) - Hmm, this sounds better ending 1/2 later, but that would make it too long.. maybe make this into a 1/1 length repeat slider?
01:25:652 - Same advice as Easy
Fixed.

Hard
00:34:896 (1) - Extend by 1/2
00:48:517 (1,2,3) - Spacing ;_;
01:09:274 - Why the empty space?>_< Dammit I knew I was missing something there!
Fixed.

^_^
*
Thanks~
Teara
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Teara
Like I said in IRC, your sliders will make or break it.

Lower slider tick on all diffs~ doesn't fit the music IMO

~

Good job, and good luck.

Have a star
Zetsubou Sensei
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Zetsubou Sensei
Thanks Kaneko-chan

Made some major improvements.
IceBeam
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IceBeam
[Easy]
01:10:896 (1) - I suggest you to start Kiai from here.

[Normal]
00:11:058 (3) - 1 grid right?
00:33:112 (3) - End it at 00:33:436.

[Hard]
00:27:598 (6) - Something wrong with it.How about using these notes:(00:27:598,00:28:085,00:28:571)

Oh,and one more thing: Think of reducing hitsound volume a bit.
EvianBubble
339 posts
Joined October 2009
EvianBubble
*cough* Kudosu! are nice *cough*

Anyways, seems way better than when I first modded, so ...

+1 star :)
Zetsubou Sensei
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Zetsubou Sensei

SadKangaroo wrote:

[Easy]
01:10:896 (1) - I suggest you to start Kiai from here. Its fine where it starts now.

[Normal]
00:11:058 (3) - 1 grid right?
00:33:112 (3) - End it at 00:33:436.
Fixed.

[Hard]
00:27:598 (6) - Something wrong with it.How about using these notes:(00:27:598,00:28:085,00:28:571)
Fixed.

Oh,and one more thing: Think of reducing hitsound volume a bit.
Thanks~
NatsumeRin
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NatsumeRin
Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

[General]
caption-111365-20090417091600.jpg is not used, remove it and re full-submit plz.
offset: -5
i didn't check the video since internet is slow... you should make sure it's fine.
maps that posted to your queue can't count for mod4mod next time.

[Easy]
00:16:733 (5) - make the end tick 1 grid left is better imo.
00:32:301 (4) - nazi. 1 grid up.
00:50:139 (2,3) - change to a slider or stack them...? don't like the shape.
00:57:274 (2) - strongly suggest you to remove this.
01:00:031 (5) - start 1/2 later (still end there.)
01:06:355 (1) - 01:10:896 (1) break in kiai is stupid.
01:27:436 (1) - end 1/2 earlier.

[Normal]
00:53:544 (1) - remove new combo
01:07:977 (4,1) - remove the break between these two notes. too short.
01:27:436 (1) - end 1/2 earlier.

[Hard]
nearly the same setting with Normal...emm.... Overall+1, HP+1, at least. same slider velocity and same distance spacing is not what i like, but it's too much to ask you to remap or blablabla.
you should ask for a combo mod since i think you're overusing it (Normal has sth too..). if you're not sure about where to start a new combo, add one every 2 long white lines is a not bad idea.
00:35:869 (1) - nazi. 1 grid left.
01:24:193 (2,3,4,5) - just get bored of these squares at last. there's many ways to place notes.

not much things to point out that's some thing seriously wrong, it's rankable, but, yeah, but distance snapping is not everything... try more ways to place notes and add hitsounds...?
Zetsubou Sensei
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Zetsubou Sensei
[General]
caption-111365-20090417091600.jpg is not used, remove it and re full-submit plz.
offset: -5
Fixed.

[Easy]
00:16:733 (5) - make the end tick 1 grid left is better imo.
00:50:139 (2,3) - change to a slider or stack them...? don't like the shape.
00:57:274 (2) - strongly suggest you to remove this.
01:00:031 (5) - start 1/2 later (still end there.)
01:06:355 (1) - 01:10:896 (1) break in kiai is stupid.
01:27:436 (1) - end 1/2 earlier.
Fixed.

[Normal]
00:53:544 (1) - remove new combo
01:07:977 (4,1) - remove the break between these two notes. too short.
01:27:436 (1) - end 1/2 earlier.
Fixed.

[Hard]
nearly the same setting with Normal...emm.... Overall+1, HP+1, at least. same slider velocity and same distance spacing is not what i like, but it's too much to ask you to remap or blablabla.
you should ask for a combo mod since i think you're overusing it (Normal has sth too..). if you're not sure about where to start a new combo, add one every 2 long white lines is a not bad idea.
00:35:869 (1) - nazi. 1 grid left.
Fixed.


Thanks~
Garven
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Garven
As per your request:

[General]
Remove audio from video.
[large][AnimePaper]scans_Buso-Renkin_Kleszczman_101672 and [large][AnimePaper]wallpapers_Buso-Renkin_robotpro(1_33)__THISRES__101932 are really low quality. Bad artefacting.. try to find some higher quality images.
MP3 quality is really low too - sounds like it had the volume artificially boosted way too much.
I dunno about rock being in tags.

[Easy]
00:16:729 (5) - Hrm, maybe smooth/even this out a bit? Looks odd compared to the pattern you set up underneath it.
You do a lot of tougher rhythms as single beats for an easy. Maybe try to use sliders more to establish that rhythms before you use them as single beats?

[Normal]
Wow, pretty fast slider speed on a Normal - especially compared to the easy slider speed (.8 vs 1.4?)
00:43:652 (2) - Why is this ending on a blue tick?
Other than the crazy slider speed, not bad.

[Hard]
Odd, same slider speed as Normal?
00:18:679 (1) - Another one ending on a blue tick? Sounds odd.
00:23:869 (1) - ^
00:50:301 (3) - ^
01:10:571 - I was kind of expecting a note Here.

A decent map set - just need to find a better mp3. :/
Zetsubou Sensei
295 posts
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Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei

Garven wrote:

As per your request:

[Normal]
Wow, pretty fast slider speed on a Normal - especially compared to the easy slider speed (.8 vs 1.4?)
00:43:652 (2) - Why is this ending on a blue tick?
Other than the crazy slider speed, not bad.
I remapped this diff...lowered the slider velocity.

[Hard]
00:18:679 (1) - Another one ending on a blue tick? Sounds odd.
00:23:869 (1) - ^
00:50:301 (3) - ^
01:10:571 - I was kind of expecting a note Here.
Fixed.
Thanks~
Lissette
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Lissette
All difficulties have different offsets, should be all the same, use the one you're using in normal diff. for all diffs ^^

Hard
00:54:355 (8,9,10) - space them evenly, is just a lil thing, but kinda confuse me, because 9 is in a blue tick ><
01:14:626 (6) - repeat until 01:15:761 because feels a bit empty there
01:19:977 (7) - repeat until 01:20:950 ^
01:27:436 (1,1) - how about this instead....
3 sliders, sounds better, imo

Star! :)
Zetsubou Sensei
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Zetsubou Sensei

Lissette wrote:

All difficulties have different offsets, should be all the same, use the one you're using in normal diff. for all diffs ^^
Fixed. >.< I knew something felt off xD

Hard
00:54:355 (8,9,10) - space them evenly, is just a lil thing, but kinda confuse me, because 9 is in a blue tick ><
01:14:626 (6) - repeat until 01:15:761 because feels a bit empty there
01:19:977 (7) - repeat until 01:20:950 ^
01:27:436 (1,1) - how about this instead....Changed it a bit.
Fixed.
Star! :)
Thanks~
Lizbeth
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Lizbeth
Hard
00:05:863 (6) - end on next white tick
00:44:619 (6) - same

Normal
00:05:864 (2) - end on next white tick
00:20:458 (1) - end on previous white tick here: 00:20:945
00:21:269 (2) - end on next white tick
00:27:593 (4) - end this at: 00:28:728
00:57:674 (2) - move to previous white tick

Easy
Well I think is kind of hard for an Easy.. Maybe you should have follow the music, not the vocals in this diff
You could increase circle size too.
Zetsubou Sensei
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Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei
Thanks....Im fixing my computer right now and cant access osu atm...so updates my be held off.
Derekku
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Derekku
Please don't give kudos unless the post is helpful (in response to people on the first page saying they found no problems yet you gave kudos =x).

[General]
*Unnecessary .osb in the folder.
*If you could remove the audio from the video, that would free up some space.
*Buso_Renkin_Wallpaper is a bit strange... (looks like three images pasted together...)
*Source can be romanized as either Buso or Busou, so... I can see why everyone is arguing. :p
*Remove countdown from each difficulty (since it doesn't appear anyway).
*Remove "rock" from tags in two of the difficulties (rock will be set as genre upon ranking).
*I suggest starting the kiai a white tick earlier at 01:10:566 and ending at 01:27:107.
*Expected kiai from 00:47:215 to 01:07:972 instead of the other spot, actually..
*Volume is WAY too loud on all sections of all difficulties. I could barely hear the hitsounds while listening/testing, and that's just unrankable. Please use 100% volume for everything in this song.
*Try offset 1,820 and resnap on all difficulties.
*Audio quality is questionable. Even with hitsound volume at 100%, the mp3 is still overpowering and meh.

[Easy]
*No yellow combo color?
00:15:270 (2,3) - try to avoid lots of offbeat notes (red/blue ticks) by themselves (at least early on) in easier diffs. Try making this a slider instead of just single beats. :p
00:24:351 (1,2) - ^ a slider, again
00:29:540 (1,2) - ^ although this time it's a bit more expected
00:38:459 (2,3) - stack these
00:55:486 (2,3) - slider
00:58:729 (1,2) - stack
01:02:783 (2,3,4) - make this a repeating slider or a single note and slider
01:04:081 (1,2,3) - ^
01:21:919 (2,3) - stack
01:23:216 (2,3) - ^

[Normal]
00:07:323 (1) - very strange slider shape... (try making this linear and see if that looks any better)
00:08:620 (2) - ^
00:16:728 (1,2,3,4) - A bit too hard for a Normal. Either put these in a straight line or stack them.
00:20:458 (1) - shorten to the white tick
00:21:269 (2) - extend to the white tick
00:27:593 (4) - either shorten or extend
01:25:972 (2) - making this linear instead of bezier would make the slider look less bumpy, but the slider ticks still make it look a bit ugly..

[Hard]
00:33:122 (7) - this sounds VERY awkward ending on the white tick. Either shorten to the previous red tick or extend to the next red tick.
00:44:392 (5) - I actually think this sounds better on the red tick (fix spacing as well afterwards)
00:44:635 (6) - extend to the white tick (also try making this linear and see if that looks any better)
01:00:852 (4) - extend to the red tick
01:14:635 (6) - add one more repeat (sounds a bit better)
01:19:987 (7) - ^

Not bad for one of your first maps, but try not to follow the lyrics 100% when mapping. This leaves for empty/awkward spaces if you just give a "literal" representation of the song. :p Good luck!
Azu_old
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Azu_old
Darn, you took about 1.3 of what I was going say. :(
Like Derekku said. Check some of the placements of beats. It does sound off in a few places as he described. That said,changing the offset would help.
Zetsubou Sensei
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Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei
I will try to fix it ASAP...but i need to get a new graphics card for osu...so please hold on until then.
:cry:
Thanks~
Zetsubou Sensei
295 posts
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Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei

Derekku wrote:

Please don't give kudos unless the post is helpful (in response to people on the first page saying they found no problems yet you gave kudos =x).

[General]
*Unnecessary .osb in the folder.
*Remove countdown from each difficulty (since it doesn't appear anyway).
*Remove "rock" from tags in two of the difficulties (rock will be set as genre upon ranking).
*I suggest starting the kiai a white tick earlier at 01:10:566 and ending at 01:27:107.
*Volume is WAY too loud on all sections of all difficulties. I could barely hear the hitsounds while listening/testing, and that's just unrankable. Please use 100% volume for everything in this song.
*Try offset 1,820 and resnap on all difficulties.
Fixed.

[Easy]
*No yellow combo color?
00:38:459 (2,3) - stack these
00:55:486 (2,3) - slider
00:58:729 (1,2) - stack
01:02:783 (2,3,4) - make this a repeating slider or a single note and slider
01:04:081 (1,2,3) - ^
01:21:919 (2,3) - stack
01:23:216 (2,3) - ^
Fixed.

[Normal]
00:07:323 (1) - very strange slider shape... (try making this linear and see if that looks any better)
00:08:620 (2) - ^
00:16:728 (1,2,3,4) - A bit too hard for a Normal. Either put these in a straight line or stack them.
00:20:458 (1) - shorten to the white tick
00:21:269 (2) - extend to the white tick
00:27:593 (4) - either shorten or extend
01:25:972 (2) - making this linear instead of bezier would make the slider look less bumpy, but the slider ticks still make it look a bit ugly..
Fixed.

[Hard]
00:33:122 (7) - this sounds VERY awkward ending on the white tick. Either shorten to the previous red tick or extend to the next red tick.
00:44:392 (5) - I actually think this sounds better on the red tick (fix spacing as well afterwards)
00:44:635 (6) - extend to the white tick (also try making this linear and see if that looks any better)
01:00:852 (4) - extend to the red tick
01:14:635 (6) - add one more repeat (sounds a bit better)
01:19:987 (7) - ^
Fixed.
Thanks~
Krisom
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Krisom
Easy-
This kind of easy diffs, that follow stictry the lyrics are really mean. They DO are easy, but if you know the song, as if you dont, many news can get confused with the 1/2 notes. My suggestion: Remap to the beats

Normal-
00:02:144 (2,3) - Make the start and the end of each slider be at the same height? like this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/22072
(code:)
SPOILER
176,192,2144,2,0,B|208:80|320:88|352:192,1,250
176,272,3441,2,0,B|208:384|320:376|352:272,1,250
00:17:711 (x) - add a note?
00:18:036 (x) - ^?
00:18:360 (x) - ^?
(do something similar for each weird gap, and DO it for this break at 00:33:928 - and map it!)
01:10:576 (x) - ADD A NOTE HERE! This is the Kiai Time fountain! you want EMPHASIS here!!!

Hard-
00:17:549 (x) - Add a note?
00:17:711 (x) - ^?
00:17:874 (x) - ^?
00:18:198 (x) - ^?
00:18:360 (x) - ^?
00:18:522 (x) - ^?
The pattern I just mentioned above should help you fill those weird gaps, it follows the gutar nicely.
00:28:576 (x) - Note?
00:28:738 - ^?
00:28:901 - Slider from this place up to 00:29:225 ? (it follows the gutar)
00:34:090 - Slider from this place up to either 00:34:414 or 00:34:576.
...aaand you should know how to fill the akward gaps now.
01:10:575 (4) - THIS one should be the new combo, Kiai fountain, emphasis, you know the deal.


YOU! You lack hitsounds. I just hear finishes everywhere and some whistles. Add some claps following this pattern:

This goes with the drums

If you're not sure about the hitsound pattern I suggested you, or if youre not sure about how to place them, PM me for a rechek (I'll only come to recheck hitsounds, though, so dont do it expecting another mod)

Star
Zetsubou Sensei
295 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei

Krisom wrote:

Normal-
00:02:144 (2,3) - Make the start and the end of each slider be at the same height? like this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/22072
(code:)
SPOILER
176,192,2144,2,0,B|208:80|320:88|352:192,1,250
176,272,3441,2,0,B|208:384|320:376|352:272,1,250
00:17:711 (x) - add a note?
00:18:036 (x) - ^?
00:18:360 (x) - ^?
(do something similar for each weird gap, and DO it for this break at 00:33:928 - and map it!)
01:10:576 (x) - ADD A NOTE HERE! This is the Kiai Time fountain! you want EMPHASIS here!!!
Fixed.

Hard-
00:17:549 (x) - Add a note?
00:17:711 (x) - ^?
00:17:874 (x) - ^?
00:18:198 (x) - ^?
00:18:360 (x) - ^?
00:18:522 (x) - ^?
The pattern I just mentioned above should help you fill those weird gaps, it follows the gutar nicely.
00:28:576 (x) - Note?
00:28:738 - ^?
00:28:901 - Slider from this place up to 00:29:225 ? (it follows the gutar)
00:34:090 - Slider from this place up to either 00:34:414 or 00:34:576.
...aaand you should know how to fill the akward gaps now.
01:10:575 (4) - THIS one should be the new combo, Kiai fountain, emphasis, you know the deal.
Fixd.

Star
Thanks~
ZLOdeuka-
1,442 posts
Joined June 2009
ZLOdeuka-
[Easy]

the very first two sliders, make them the same

01:06:684 - spiner better to start here , and finish in the same.

[Normal]

00:13:982 - Add to the slider one more return

00:16:090 aligning the slider to the middle of the two previous Circle

00:44:630 - spiner better to start here, and finish in the same

[Hard]

00:01:171(1) - Finish slider sound finish

In general, I like ~STAR
Zetsubou Sensei
295 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei

ZLOdeuka wrote:

[Easy]

the very first two sliders, make them the same>0< what happend here! It was at first!...Fixed.

01:06:684 - spiner better to start here , and finish in the same.Hmm...Alright.


[Normal]

00:16:090 aligning the slider to the middle of the two previous Circle Fixed.

00:44:630 - spiner better to start here, and finish in the sameFixed.

[Hard]

00:01:171(1) - Finish slider sound finishOk, sure.

In general, I like ~STAR
Thanks~
Bikko
151 posts
Joined January 2010
Bikko
My english is not good. I'm sorry about this but my contury is not english-speaking world. keep in mind please.


Poof! Summoned!

RED : IMPORTANT
ORANGE : I RECOMMEND IT STRONGLY
BLUE : SUGGESTION, PERSONAL DISCONTENT
GREEN : NAZI
PURPLE : JOKE, DO NOT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY


[General]
- Your all kiai timing sections are not snapped. set them again.
- Your preview points are not snapped. set them again.
- Your BG images are terrible. see their quality gap. especially, Buso_Renkin_Wallpaper.jpg file is looks like MSPAINT work. see caption-727637-20100723180722.jpg file. 512 x 384 is not good. change them.
- WTH is in your tags? 'rock'....? also, It is only in [Hard]...? oh, dude. All diff's artist, tags things are must be matched. It can be unrankable issue. make them all same. And, IMO, 'rock' is just... well... lol. Can't you find any more words what has relationship with this song? how about 'jam project'? oh, anyway, you can put 'rock' in your tags. because this map's genre will be 'Anime'.
- Artist 'Fukuyama Yoshiki' is correct, but there is another ranked map. http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5287 This one has 'Yoshiki Fukuyama' in artist. It's veeey old map, but anyway, I prefer sorted map list.


[Easy]
00:05:064 (4) - you need more smooth curve, and I want this one can makes smooth curve with 00:05:874 (5).
00:07:334 (1) - 1 grid down.
00:08:631 (2) - 2 grid left. Do not position note on out of board. especially, easy and normal diff. sometimes another game elements possibly cover it. (scoreboard, HP BG things). It is not good to noobs.
00:09:928 (3,4) - If you follow my suggstion, you should check these ones' distance as well.
00:10:253 (4) - I don't like its 90 degrees 'No curves'. use 'smooth curves' slider.
00:16:739 (5) - slider end point and start point. make them exact align. You can turn off grid snap. Don't afraid working without girdsnap. 1 gird is just 8x8. sometimes you need to do pixel level nazi works for more looks good.
00:19:172 (1,2,3,4) - 1 grid down.
00:23:874 (6) - 2 grid left, 2 grid up.
00:25:010 (3) - move slider end point slightly without grid snap. for perfect align with 00:26:145 (1). yeah, silly nazi work. You can ignore this kind of pixel level nazi work if you can't make it in short time.
00:26:956 (3) - more smoothly!
00:32:307 (4) - Distorted a little bit. move it left 1 grid.
00:49:820 (3,4,5) - without grid snap, move it down slightly. align.
00:54:361 (1,2) - You need pixel level nazi for this. This one is not perfect symmetry. also it is very easy to notice when play the map.
00:57:118 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - Can you see this?
SPOILER
01:00:198 (5) - move slider end point slightly without grid snap. for perfect align
01:04:090 (1,2) - move to left 1 grid.
01:12:198 (2) - Why didn't use copy paste? delete this. c&p previous (1). Use Flip horizonttaly and Reverse selection function. and position it. You can make it perfect align in just 5 seconds.
01:13:496 (3,4,5) - If you agree previous suggestion, 1 gird down, 1 grid left.
01:16:091 (1,2) - more smoothly!
01:24:199 (2) - straight line.

Don't follow all Nazi modding. Do it where if you agree. Nazi modding is silliest modding as well. Nazi mod's mean, "Oh, I can not found any crtical flaw so I focus on silly things to improve it.". Anyway you need to do something to improve the map till BAT arrived. If you can not find any major issues in your notes, This is time to be a paranoeac.


[Normal]
00:02:144 (2,3) - not perfect symmetry
00:27:603 (4) - ^
00:52:414 (2,3) - ^
00:55:495 (3) - more smoothly
00:56:306 (4) - can you make it stack with 00:57:603 (2) ?
01:14:630 (5) - end at 01:15:603, red tick.
01:16:090 (1,2,3) - move to right 1 grid.
01:19:982 (4) - end at 01:20:792, refer [Easy]'s slider at same timing.
01:24:198 (2,3) - move down 1 grid.
01:25:495 (1,2) - move down 1 grid if you follow previous NAZI.

not so bad.


[Hard]
- well, This not not a problem of 'there is an error or not'. I can't approved of this concept. you need to refer another famous 170 ~ 190 BPM maps' [H] or [I]. In this BPM, most of people want to RUN into the map. because, It is fast beat. You use quite close and constant distance in whole map, also your positioning is... quite bad. almost circle pattern's curve is 90 degrees angle. looks like chessboard. It makes your map narrow and stuffy. use more farther distance snap. put more various pattern in your map. don't afraid about difficulty so much. This is a hardest diff of your mapset. This one's actual difficulty should be [Hard+] or [Insane-].

You are the mapper, and this is your map. You have charge. I can not arguing about this with you. but If you want really want make a loved map, think about it carefully.

My real modding legend is 'You can keep your beats and sounds, but Repositioning all notes.'. I suggest 1.7 Slider Velocity and 1.0x distance snap. you can use 1.5~2.0 disntance snap when you want to make jumps. of course, I prepared an usual modding report If you want to keep everything of your map.

- Set Tick rate 2. I'm not sure about this.

00:07:332 (1,2,3,4,5) - Makes like this. and this make it align with 00:05:873 (6)'s end point.
SPOILER
00:23:063 (3) - make it stack with 00:22:901 (2)
00:25:008 (3,4,5,6) - You can make these jumps. 00:30:197 (3,4,5,6) This one has same rhythm as well.
01:02:467 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^ if you follow my suggestion about jumps, Don't forgot make it in intuition. If you need, you can use new combo for easy to read.
01:07:008 (2,3) - ^
01:07:494 (4,5) - ^
01:11:548 (4,5) - ^
01:16:737 (4,5) - ^
01:18:035 (4,5) - ^
01:21:927 (4,5) - ^
01:23:224 (4,5) - ^ These things all on same chorus. Also, This point has quite accent to me. Forever! Forever! (Well, IMO, Till the ends of the earth!! is more good translate.) To the ends of the earth!! isn'it? Make them highlighted. This is kiai time, and almost end part of the song. You need little difficult pattern for fun.
01:25:981 (3) - This slider's end point should be at 01:27:279 red tick. This one is start with vocal, then, make this end with vocal. you should modify your Kiai time for this if you follow this suggestion. yeah, That's it.
01:28:737 (2) - Is it jump? 1~2's distance and 2~3's distance are not matched. I couldn't find any valid reason for this. If it is not intentional, fix it.


Pretty looks good..... Chessboard map XD. Take my star, and good luck!



Zetsubou Sensei
295 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei

Bikko wrote:



[b][General]
- Your all kiai timing sections are not snapped. set them again.
- Your preview points are not snapped. set them again.
- Your BG images are terrible. see their quality gap. especially, Buso_Renkin_Wallpaper.jpg file is looks like MSPAINT work. see caption-727637-20100723180722.jpg file. 512 x 384 is not good. change them....wtf? It was a 800x600 at first!...changed...
- WTH is in your tags? 'rock'....? also, It is only in [Hard]...? oh, dude. All diff's artist, tags things are must be matched. It can be unrankable issue. make them all same. And, IMO, 'rock' is just... well... lol. Can't you find any more words what has relationship with this song? how about 'jam project'? oh, anyway, you can put 'rock' in your tags. because this map's genre will be 'Anime'.[/color] Thought i fixed that...
- Artist 'Fukuyama Yoshiki' is correct, but there is another ranked map. http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5287 This one has 'Yoshiki Fukuyama' in artist. It's veeey old map, but anyway, I prefer sorted map list.Names can be either way...As long as the artist name is full who cares....


[Hard]
- well, This not not a problem of 'there is an error or not'. I can't approved of this concept. you need to refer another famous 170 ~ 190 BPM maps' [H] or [I]. In this BPM, most of people want to RUN into the map. because, It is fast beat. You use quite close and constant distance in whole map, also your positioning is... quite bad. almost circle pattern's curve is 90 degrees angle. looks like chessboard. It makes your map narrow and stuffy. use more farther distance snap. put more various pattern in your map. don't afraid about difficulty so much. This is a hardest diff of your mapset. This one's actual difficulty should be [Hard+] or [Insane-].

You are the mapper, and this is your map. You have charge. I can not arguing about this with you. but If you want really want make a loved map, think about it carefully.



[Take my star, and good luck!
Thanks....(not much help for my maps...cept the general part >.>) But thanks for your time anyway
Bikko
151 posts
Joined January 2010
Bikko
After Service

01:28:737 (2) -
SPOILER

Did you forget it? huh? That is cleary spacing error! Distance snap can not work on that part because of your slider's end point will be at out of board!

I don't care about Kudosu thing much. but if you aiming ranked, DO NOT DOZE.


Zetsubou Sensei
295 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei
^ thanks for re-telling me (i was kinda in a rush... >.> had to go out)

Fixed it.
GladiOol
4,475 posts
Joined August 2008
GladiOol
[General]
  1. Offset 1817
  2. You have no TAGs! Add some!
[Hard]
  1. Maybe add in a spinner somewhere ?
  2. Overall Difficulty +1
  3. Drain Rate +1
01:28:087 (1) - Remove New Combo.
01:30:033 (4) - Remove Finish Hitsound and Extend by 1/4.


[Normal]

01:27:441 (1) - Extend by 3/4 and Remove Finish Hitsound.


[Easy]

01:27:441 (1) - Extend by 3/4 and Remove Finish Hitsound.


Starred~
kino77
909 posts
Joined March 2009
kino77
Hiiiii~

[Normal]
00:13:982 (1) - Add 1 repeat?
00:17:387 - Add note here?
00:21:928 (3) - Add 1 repeat?

Nice map~star it~
Zetsubou Sensei
295 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei

GladiOol wrote:

[General]
  1. Offset 1817
  2. You have no TAGs! Add some!
Fixed.

[Hard]
  1. Maybe add in a spinner somewhere ?
  2. Overall Difficulty +1
  3. Drain Rate +1
01:28:087 (1) - Remove New Combo.
01:30:033 (4) - Remove Finish Hitsound and Extend by 1/4.
Fixed.


[Normal]

01:27:441 (1) - Extend by 3/4 and Remove Finish Hitsound.
Fixed.

[Easy]

01:27:441 (1) - Extend by 3/4 and Remove Finish Hitsound.
Fixed.


Starred~
Zetsubou Sensei
295 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei

kino77 wrote:

Hiiiii~

[Normal]
00:13:982 (1) - Add 1 repeat?
00:17:387 - Add note here?
00:21:928 (3) - Add 1 repeat?
Fixed.

Nice map~star it~
~Thanks
La Cataline
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1,025 posts
Joined March 2010
La Cataline
hi~
sorry for the delay,
here's my mod

[overall]
  1. your bg sizes differ, SubakusWallpaper.jpg is 800x600 and others are 1024x768
[easy]
  • 00:04:735(3) 1 grid up?
    01:27:438(1) this lacks finish, besides I would have ended it at a white tick, 01:30:033
[normal]
yep, this looks better than [easy]
  • 00:22:898(1-4) 1 grid left?
    01:27:438(1) the same suggestion as in [easy]
[hard]
  • 00:54:357(8) new combo?
    00:55:006(1) no new combo?
*
Zetsubou Sensei
295 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei
Thanks for your help...Fixed up a little.
Mafiamaster
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Joined July 2008
Mafiamaster
Why is stack leniency 1 tick higher on [Hard] while the others are default!
Zetsubou Sensei
295 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei

Mafiamaster wrote:

Why is stack leniency 1 tick higher on [Hard] while the others are default!
0.0 Fixed.

~Thanks
deepsea
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855 posts
Joined April 2008
deepsea
Normal

00:16:73(1) ~ (5) Notes place like this is hmm not really beautiful.<_<
Zetsubou Sensei
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Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei

deepsea wrote:

Normal

00:16:73(1) ~ (5) Notes place like this is hmm not really beautiful.<_<
Fixed.

~Thanks
DJPop
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3,549 posts
Here since the beginning
DJPop
~Easy~
01:27:438 (1) - end on 01:30:276

~Normal~
00:02:141 (2,3) - not look so symmetry...
01:27:438 (1) - end on 01:30:276

~Hard~
01:10:573 (1) - remove new combo
01:28:087 (2) - move a bit left
01:28:735 (3,4) - move left 1 grid (Lv3)


+Star
Zetsubou Sensei
295 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei

DJPop wrote:

+Star
Thanks I fixed up some stuff...And Finally BACK ON!!!
Haneii
1,203 posts
Joined November 2009
Haneii
~General~
2 second lead in is too long :(
Remove “anime” from tags since BAT will add that when they rank it.
Preview point here: 01:10:573 (although this is just my own preference, there’s nothing wrong with the current one :P )

~Easy~
00:19:168 (1) – shorten this note and make it end at 00:19:654
00:19:979 – add a note here
00:27:600 (4) - shorten and end at 00:28:411

Normal and Hard look good to me ^_^

~Twinkle twinkle little star~
Zetsubou Sensei
295 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei

Haneii wrote:

~General~
2 second lead in is too long :( Put it to 1 second...It did see a bit long

~Easy~
00:19:168 (1) – shorten this note and make it end at 00:19:654 Its fine where it is.
00:19:979 – add a note here No.
00:27:600 (4) - shorten and end at 00:28:411 No...But i did rearrange it to something alot better (that i should've noticed)

Normal and Hard look good to me ^_^

~Twinkle twinkle little star~
Thanks for your mod =D
vivere
752 posts
Joined April 2009
vivere
Hii Zetsubou

[Easy]:

00:19:168- spacing (1 grid)
00:27:600- This slider end here: 00:28:898
00:38:465 (2,3)- This is not very difficult to be Easy? o.O...recommend changing these circles by slider
00:50:141 (4,5)- ^
00:58:735 (1,2)- ^
01:21:925 (2,3)- ^
01:23:222 (2,3)- ^
-------------------------
The other difficulties are well... +Star

PS: Thanks for your modding ^^'
Zetsubou Sensei
295 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Zetsubou Sensei

vivere wrote:

Hii Zetsubou

[Easy]:

00:19:168- spacing (1 grid)
00:27:600- This slider end here: 00:28:898
00:38:465 (2,3)- This is not very difficult to be Easy? o.O...recommend changing these circles by slider
00:50:141 (4,5)- ^
00:58:735 (1,2)- ^
01:21:925 (2,3)- ^
01:23:222 (2,3)- ^
^ All these are fine...No Changes were required..

-------------------------
The other difficulties are well... +Star
PS: Thanks for your modding ^^'

Thanks for your mod.
Kite
osu! Alumni
1,372 posts
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Kite
looks all fine~
star~
Beuchi
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2,288 posts
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Beuchi
Hi!~

Remember these are just suggestions you can always ignore :P

~All Diffs~
- It would be better if you delete the audio of the video...

~Easy~
- I don't really like those fast 1/2 notes like 00:38:465 (2,3), it makes the map harder than it should be, imo the beat changes are enough.

00:15:276 (2,3,4,5) - Uh... Call me a pervert but... wow, I lol'd xD
00:27:600 (4) - This slider sounds a lot better imo if you finish it 1/1 later (00:28:898).
01:00:196 (5) - Finish the slider 1/2 later? (01:01:979).

~Normal~
- Feels more like a Hard, specially on the end of the chorus and end of the song, so many 1/2 streams D:

00:05:871 (2) - Finish this slider 1/2 later? (00:07:006)
00:27:600 (4) - Finish this slider 1/2 later? (00:28:898)

~Hard~
- Holy crap that AR, I would decrease it, it doesn't fit at all imo, if not, at least decrease Overall Difficulty 1-2 ticks? Or just... rename to Insane? :U

00:05:871 (6) - The endpoint sounds kinda weird, it doesn't fall on any strong beat, I'd end it on 00:06:681, but it still feels a bit empty imo, maybe you can make 2 sliders or something else? :3
00:12:033 (3) - Replace this with a spinner? It sounds better imo oxo (and finish it at 00:13:492)
00:44:465 (5) - Move back to the blue tick.
01:09:925 (5) - Flip this slider horizontally to make the reverse arrow totally visible.
01:14:627 (6) - I don't think these repeated sliders fit the song >:
01:19:979 (7) - ^

Looks nice, maybe too much linear formations (I'm a symmetry lovah, y'know), but it does look well so I'm not complaining about it :3
Good Luck!! :)
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