repr1se wrote:

RoseusJaeger wrote:

This thread has gone to hell and back, but it's fun to read. So far, rep1se seems to be the one with most sanity and rational sense.

I'm not flattered

I wasn't trying to.

RoseusJaeger wrote:

I wasn't trying to.

bb come back

But I meant it as "I expected this to be a rational discussion so it isn't a surprise." Sorry for the misunderstanding.

repr1se wrote:

RoseusJaeger wrote:

I wasn't trying to.

bb come back

But I meant it as "I expected this to be a rational discussion so it isn't a surprise." Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Alright, that sounds better

Couldn't care less.

Connecticut · 28 delegates
40% reporting · Trump won and has 16 delegates
Delaware · 16 delegates
Trump won and has 16 delegates
Maryland · 38 delegates
3% reporting · Trump won and has 26 delegates
Pennsylvania · 17 delegates
Trump won and has 17 delegates
Rhode Island · 19 delegates
56% reporting · Trump won and has 7 delegates

Khelly wrote:

Connecticut · 28 delegates
40% reporting · Trump won and has 16 delegates
Delaware · 16 delegates
Trump won and has 16 delegates
Maryland · 38 delegates
3% reporting · Trump won and has 26 delegates
Pennsylvania · 17 delegates
Trump won and has 17 delegates
Rhode Island · 19 delegates
56% reporting · Trump won and has 7 delegates

IKR IM SO MAD TRUMP WON AHGGGHGGHGHGHGHGHGHHHGGHHGGHHGH

So what do you mean ikr? I'm glad trump won.

Rhode Island · 19 delegates
91% reporting · Trump won and has 9 delegates, Kasich has 2

Ted Cruz is so shit even kasich is getting delegates over him

Clinton vs Trump 2016

Mahogany wrote:

In my history class we have fun drawing parallels between Trump and Hitler

They are both great men. :^)

I actually like Bernie's idea of taxing purchased shares because it would create enough revenue for the policies he has promised for such as free education and government provided health care (which I don't think even matter now, since his chances of winning are dim). However, his federal 15$ minimum wage idea was completely bonkers and I'm happy he stopped bringing it up because minimum wage should be calculated per city's population and revenue.

Trump is definitely my plan B because he actually happens to have a sensible tax plan whereas Cruz wants it to be a fixed rate even though he loves talking for the true Can-- American blue collar people, the kind of people who need a tax reform the most (Cruz is not even American so I don't even know why the fuck he's still running). At the same time though, Trump's tax plan kind of goes out of the window if you consider the cost of the infamous wall (Mexico is not going to pay for it, it's just another stupid bait like the $15 dollar minimum wage), let alone the cost of checking literally every illegal immigrant's background and then letting them back in once they're "clear" or whatever. I want the immigration system to be tightened as much as the next guy, but I would also like a plan that won't cost the taxpayers another stack of billions. It would be amazing if that money, instead, could be used to create a universal care system like any other civilized country. For fuck's sake if Moldova can do it with the amount of money they have, then so can we.

And for all the fear mongering, I believe that if you're a legal, law-abiding immigrant, you shouldn't be afraid of Trump. Simple as that, really.


Also if you have a vagina for the love of god please don't vote for Clinton just because she also happens to have one.

Khelly wrote:

Rhode Island · 19 delegates
91% reporting · Trump won and has 9 delegates, Kasich has 2

Ted Cruz is so shit even kasich is getting delegates over him

he is so shit people are still voting for rubio, man

xxdeathx wrote:

Clinton vs Trump 2016

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

People need to realize that Bill Clinton won't come back or be involved at all if Hillary is elected. Most of her voters have voted for Clinton during his campaign and they're expecting her to be like her husband (though he clearly stated he doesn't wish to be married to her and who the fuck can blame him). People are so fucking dumb. Bill is gone. Bill is fucking gone (cries).

Dulcet wrote:

I actually like Bernie's idea of taxing purchased shares because it would create enough revenue for the policies he has promised for such as free education and government provided health care (which I don't think even matter now, since his chances of winning are dim). However, his federal 15$ minimum wage idea was completely bonkers and I'm happy he stopped bringing it up because minimum wage should be calculated per city's population and revenue.

That's sensible, but we can agree that the minimum wage should be a livable wage, no? Of course, minimum wage shouldn't be able to afford luxuries but I believe it should be enough to sustain food, rent and bills.

Trump is definitely my plan B because he actually happens to have a sensible tax plan whereas Cruz wants it to be a fixed rate even though he loves talking for the true Can-- American blue collar people, the kind of people who need a tax reform the most (Cruz is not even American so I don't even know why the fuck he's still running). At the same time though, Trump's tax plan kind of goes out of the window if you consider the cost of the infamous wall (Mexico is not going to pay for it, it's just another stupid bait like the $15 dollar minimum wage), let alone the cost of checking literally every illegal immigrant's background and then letting them back in once they're "clear" or whatever. I want the immigration system to be tightened as much as the next guy, but I would also like a plan that won't cost the taxpayers another stack of billions. It would be amazing if that money, instead, could be used to create a universal care system like any other civilized country. For fuck's sake if Moldova can do it with the amount of money they have, then so can we.

Cruz is the epitome of modern fundamentalist evangelical, and no one takes him seriously because everything out of his mouth came from a 1700 year old book.
And yes... the wall is stupid.

And for all the fear mongering, I believe that if you're a legal, law-abiding immigrant, you shouldn't be afraid of Trump. Simple as that, really.

I don't think the issue is with immigration, but rather that Trump is alienating people related to immigrants. My parents are Asian immigrants and they feel the same.

Also if you have a vagina for the love of god please don't vote for Clinton just because she also happens to have one.

Hillary don't care about no women.

People need to realize that Bill Clinton won't come back or be involved at all if Hillary is elected. Most of her voters have voted for Clinton during his campaign and they're expecting her to be like her husband (though he clearly stated he doesn't wish to be married to her and who the fuck can blame him). People are so fucking dumb. Bill is gone. Bill is fucking gone (cries).

+1. Bill, as the First Man, would be pacing the White House waiting for the end of the 4 year term just to get out.

repr1se wrote:

Dulcet wrote:

I actually like Bernie's idea of taxing purchased shares because it would create enough revenue for the policies he has promised for such as free education and government provided health care (which I don't think even matter now, since his chances of winning are dim). However, his federal 15$ minimum wage idea was completely bonkers and I'm happy he stopped bringing it up because minimum wage should be calculated per city's population and revenue.

That's sensible, but we can agree that the minimum wage should be a livable wage, no? Of course, minimum wage shouldn't be able to afford luxuries but I believe it should be enough to sustain food, rent and bills.

"Live-able" paychecks differ from each state. For example, if you like in Missisisppi where the state minimum wage is $7.25 it's because things and rent are REALLY cheap. If all the sudden it gets raised to $15, not only will it dramatically raise cost of living, but there just won't be enough money to FEDERALLY pay $15 dollars an hour per each individual. It's just too much money, and that's why I believe minimum wage should really depend on how affordable it is to live in your location. I believe people should have enough money for shelter and food, but I don't believe that our citizens should just rely the minimum wage alone.

repr1se wrote:

Bill, as the First Man, would be pacing the White House waiting for the end of the 4 year term just to get out.

Hillary is clearly holding him hostage for political fame. Every time he looks at the camera I try to count the amount of eye blinks just to see if there's a pattern and a code behind it

repr1se wrote:

Going to leave this here.
>If you want to share something link to studies directly.
A liberal news site is better than nothing at all.

No, biased information is worse than no information. You don't see me linking stuff from Stormfront, do you? Link to objective facts, not sites that will try to manipulate information to suit their agenda. Like the information that I already debunked.

Immigrants are problematic because they vote left, and you vote right.
Just going to leave it at that.

You missed the point. If your favoured political system one where one side can just import voters, then that probably isn't a very good system.

You also ignored all of the points I presented about why Muslim immigrants are detrimental.

The thing with liberalism is that it assumes the government will use people's money solely for the good of the community. That doesn't happen.

ftfy

People don't pay for roads and fire services out of a desire to help the community. They do because they want those services. Do people value having these things? Do you? Then you would pay for them if you weren't forced to. Simple as that. And if you didn't, that's your choice, it's going to affect no one but you.

Edit: What you probably have in mind is people paying one large fund that provides these services for everyone. It wouldn't work like that. It would be private contracts, a bit like insurance works. For roads you would just pay road tolls.

Kansas had a governor that believed this theory, so much so that he cut taxes immensely. He said it would create jobs among other things. Not giving the government money doesn't work, as the data show. The Kansas City Star, a newspaper in that very state, agrees. Link: http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-c ... 54187.html
Image for the important bit:

Cutting taxes is not the same as creating an anarcho-capitilistic society. You don't leave the traditional medium of funding all of the public services in place and then just not use it, things don't work like that.

Not having a government means there's no one to protect the rights of anyone. If there were to be a private police force, the one that owns it can say "Hey, I don't like my neighbors, so when they dial the emergency number ignore them." If they paid for private firefighters, the person/group that owns it can say "I don't like you, so the FD won't come when you need help." That's why, even though a public service is ineffective, is still more effective than a private service.

No they wouldn't. If a security provider refused to issue services, their reputation would suffer greatly and people would switch to their rivals. Private companies have every incentive to offer the best services possible. Public government services don't, because they have no competition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIsFkTJNBlw

Yes, the government is prone to corruption, but simultaneously big money is prone to corruption. The only difference between the two is that the government, once found, is held accountable while big money isn't.

How is the government accountable to corruption while businesses aren't? The American political system is blatantly corrupt. What can you do about it?

Governments are an inherently flawed system. Because power corrupts. Leftists act like it's the fault of the businesses rather than the government. Well tell me, how many people have private businesses killed in the last century? Businesses do not have an armies or police. But when you have a system set up how it is, you create the opportunity for corruption because businesses can bribe politicians, which in turn give favours to the businesses. Yo will never eliminate this form of corruption unless you eliminate the entity that has a monopoly on force.

I'ld like to elaborate on the subject of anarchist societies a bit more, but I'll admit that I don't know much of the technical details myself yet. I have some books on the subject that I ordered, which I just need to collect.

I think people who pander to illegal immigrants are alienating legal immigrants by devaluing the process those people went through to legitimately come intonthe country.

Also Ted Cruz looks like he's perpetually going to cry or he is going to take a big shit. Is that just me who sees this?

TRIGGER WARNING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpVwBzFAkw

Another reason why democracy is shit female suffrage

Khelly wrote:

Also Ted Cruz looks like he's perpetually going to cry or he is going to take a big shit. Is that just me who sees this?

Khelly wrote:

I think people who pander to illegal immigrants are alienating legal immigrants by devaluing the process those people went through to legitimately come intonthe country.

as an legal immigrant with a green card, I can tell you that it's 100% true

quality huffpost article
very nice

Khelly wrote:

I think people who pander to illegal immigrants are alienating legal immigrants by devaluing the process those people went through to legitimately come intonthe country.

also this

1.You opened the wrong can of worms and 2.I also wish to move outta the us for a while to see what the rest of the world is like

I'd move if I had money to

Why does everyone want to move to Canada and not Mexico?

Khelly wrote:

Why does everyone want to move to Canada and not Mexico?

That's not very easy to answer.

Because Mexico is a shithole, perhaps?

Khelly wrote:

Why does everyone want to move to Canada and not Mexico?

Canada is more like the US i guess

Khelly wrote:

Why does everyone want to move to Canada and not Mexico?

because mexico has tons of crime, a weak infrastructure, and no job market

Khelly wrote:

Why does everyone want to move to Canada and not Mexico?

maybe because they have to learn a new language?

I don't know what's so hard about this question.

Khelly wrote:

Why does everyone want to move to Canada and not Mexico?

because canada is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NICE



and because its so close, it doesnt take that long to get there

like, from where I am, it is just a 4 hour drive and boom im in ontario

delete this post

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B1rd wrote:

No, biased information is worse than no information. You don't see me linking stuff from Stormfront, do you? Link to objective facts, not sites that will try to manipulate information to suit their agenda. Like the information that I already debunked.

Data don't lie. AFAIK I summoned data rather than the opinion section.

Also "liberal" claims are generally more true than conservative ones. According to Politifact.com (an independent project launched by the Tampa Bay Times that won the Pulitzer Prize for National Reporting (i.e., can't argue with this shit))...

THE STUPID LIBERALS



THE GUY TELLING IT LIKE IT IS


I'm not going to argue with the rest because it's opinion.

Politifact is biased against conservatives.

repr1se wrote:

kek

who the fuck bumped this thread

A roshan thread got to page 11 without being locked, amazing

yeah but its the worst thread ot had this year so

FuZ wrote:

who the fuck bumped this thread

FuZ wrote:

yeah but its the worst thread ot had this year so

I have an idea: if you don't like it, don't go into it and stop bitching about it.

what if i want to

FuZ wrote:

what if i want to

Expect backlash

Kisses wrote:

A roshan thread got to page 11 without being locked, amazing

I'm surprised too, but the thing that is more confusing to me

is when this thread is gonna die

When Donald Trump wins the presidency in 2017.

btw this thread sucks

FuZ wrote:

btw this thread sucks

duh

Khelly wrote:

the truth is biased against conservatives.

Really in America we get the fantastic choice of a) liars and crooks and b) full on retarded chimpanzees

It's amazing how democracy was started in America and done better virtually everywhere else

Philosofikal wrote:

Khelly wrote:

the truth is biased against conservatives.

Really in America we get the fantastic choice of a) liars and crooks and b) full on retarded chimpanzees

It's amazing how democracy was started in America and done better virtually everywhere else

i wanna go to canada

I wanna go to Japan, just because. Take a vacation from the strife here

then you realize japaneses hate foreigner

FuZ wrote:

then you realize japaneses hate foreigner

only the weebs though

Oh wait.

Aomi wrote:

FuZ wrote:

then you realize japaneses hate foreigner

only the weebs though

Oh wait.

I wouldn't say I'm a weeb, I genuinely love Japanese culture other than anime and manga.

I hate Japanese culture. Learn Japanese so you can learn to hate it

I am learning it and what I've learned is that I enjoy it more than i thought. There may be flaws, but it isn't too bad

Japanese is shit language.

Khelly wrote:

Japanese is shit language.

How so? What in your opinion makes it shit?

It's a backwards, unintuitive, lengthy, full of vacuous phrases and expressions language.

p/5072697

Example of shit phrase saying する事ができる instead of　出来る. Or replace 出来るwith any other verb in potential form.

Also in dictionaries how every definition ends with something like また、そのさま or　そのようだ

I could also try to find some really shitty sentences that mean nothing but are entire lines long that the Japanese seem to be fond of.

I guess in that sense that makes sense. But English is basically a mash-up of a bunch of languages, so personally I hate my own native tongue. I live with it though. Every language has it's flaws.

And thus I hate Japanese.

Khelly wrote:

And thus I hate Japanese.

I guess, good for you?

You asked.

Khelly wrote:

You asked.

And i was giving you my response.

It seems like every post you make is an attempt to be hostile but fails. Or at least on the threads I've seen you on.

That's just, like, my personality mate.

khelly likes to be an edgy motherfucker

FuZ wrote:

khelly likes to be an edgy motherfucker

People like this are cancer to society, imo

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[22/04/2016 22:55:50] Cieran Deery: i think you are too uncaring about your bros
[22/04/2016 22:56:10] #1 VS3025 fan: I think I am incapable of caring too much
[22/04/2016 22:56:57] Cieran Deery: you're a bad human being
[22/04/2016 22:57:00] #1 VS3025 fan: Yes

me too thanks

Khelly wrote:

That's just, like, my personality mate.

i like your personality

Aomi wrote:

Khelly wrote:

That's just, like, my personality mate.

i like your personality

Khelly's personality is like marmite

this thread is no longer shit

voting for dtrump
To make America great again

Kisses wrote:

Khelly's personality is like marmite

ACtually I'm a pork faggot.

Hika wrote:

voting for dtrump
To make America great again

*cringes*

Hika wrote:

voting for dtrump
To make America great again

america was never great. Just look at all the americans in the thread

Kisses wrote:

america was never great

be my bride

FuZ wrote:

be my bride

I dont see myself wearing a wedding dress, sorry

But I see myself in one. Fuz is my fiancee.

i will force you

FuZ wrote:

i will force you

no you wont, I lift

I'm 165 cm I'm tall enough to be a good bride

derailed threads ftw

how can you have an anime avatar and lift, this is not compatible. don't lie to me love

FuZ wrote:

how can you have an anime avatar and lift, this is not compatible. don't lie to me love

you got me bro

jfc where has this thread gone

roshan117 wrote:

jfc where has this thread gone

The abyss

roshan117 wrote:

jfc where has this thread gone

you're to blame

repr1se wrote:

Data don't lie. AFAIK I summoned data rather than the opinion section.

I'm not going to argue with the rest because it's opinion.

So you're just gonna ignore everything I wrote for some reason? If you say that I'll just assume that I 'won' the debate.

Data is misleading, it's very easy to manipulate numbers to look like they suit your argument. Like I already pointed out how I just tweak a few things then suddenly the numbers show the opposite.

And you're not proving anything by giving examples from your biased left wing site. You can't arbitrarily assign different level of 'truths' to certain statements then pass if off as facts. And even if it completely accurate, it doesn't prove anything. I know Donald Trump used a lot of hyperbole and exaggerations in his speeches, he creates a persona like that to gain popularity and media attention.

i see it as a comedy tbh

B1rd wrote:

If you say that I'll just assume that I 'won' the debate.

> winning debates

The goal of a debate isn't to "win" in terms of having your opponent to not say anything, the goal of a debate is to turn neutrals to your side m8

the goal of a debate is to tell shit until your opponent give up because of ur autism

I hate politics. If it comes down between Hillary and Trump, I'd vote Trump. Not a Trump supporter though and not actually going to vote for any of these pieces of shit tbh

Mahogany wrote:

B1rd wrote:

If you say that I'll just assume that I 'won' the debate.

> winning debates

The goal of a debate isn't to "win" in terms of having your opponent to not say anything, the goal of a debate is to turn neutrals to your side m8

I know, but if he's just gonna say that he's not gonna reply to my text block that took me like an hour to formulate because of some silly reason like 'it's just your opinion'...

Oh, this is interesting

To be honest, I never really liked the american government due to its bullshit that it's spewing in the past few years. Personally, I think I can compare it to cats are often valued by humans for companionship and for their ability to hunt vermin. There are more than 70 cat breeds; different associations proclaim different numbers according to their standards.

Cats are similar in anatomy to the other felids, with a strong, flexible body, quick reflexes, sharp retractable claws, and teeth adapted to killing small prey. Cat senses fit a crepuscular and predatory ecological niche. Cats can hear sounds too faint or too high in frequency for human ears, such as those made by mice and other small animals. They can see in near darkness. Like most other mammals, cats have poorer color vision and a better sense of smell than humans. Cats, despite being solitary hunters, are a social species and cat communication includes the use of a variety of vocalizations (mewing, purring, trilling, hissing, growling, and grunting), as well as cat pheromones and types of cat-specific body language.

Cats have a high breeding rate. Under controlled breeding, they can be bred and shown as registered pedigree pets, a hobby known as cat fancy. Failure to control the breeding of pet cats by neutering and the abandonment of former household pets has resulted in large numbers of feral cats worldwide, requiring population control. This has contributed, along with habitat destruction and other factors, to the extinction of many bird species. Cats have been known to extirpate a bird species within specific regions and may have contributed to the extinction of isolated island populations. Cats are thought to be primarily, though not solely, responsible for the extinction of 33 species of birds, and the presence of feral and free ranging cats makes some locations unsuitable for attempted species reintroduction in otherwise suitable locations.

IDONTGIVEAFUCKVOTEBERNIE

I like cats

Aomi wrote:

I like cats

I like you

/me Aomi

get it?

Kisses wrote:

Aomi wrote:

I like cats

I like you

/me Aomi

get it?

haaha that's cute

yo man back the fuck up

i'm actually just joking :^)

Kisses wrote:

Aomi wrote:

I like cats

I like you

/me Aomi

get it?

let's kisses

AutoMedic wrote:

Oh, this is interesting

To be honest, I never really liked the american government due to its bullshit that it's spewing in the past few years. Personally, I think I can compare it to cats are often valued by humans for companionship and for their ability to hunt vermin. There are more than 70 cat breeds; different associations proclaim different numbers according to their standards.

Cats are similar in anatomy to the other felids, with a strong, flexible body, quick reflexes, sharp retractable claws, and teeth adapted to killing small prey. Cat senses fit a crepuscular and predatory ecological niche. Cats can hear sounds too faint or too high in frequency for human ears, such as those made by mice and other small animals. They can see in near darkness. Like most other mammals, cats have poorer color vision and a better sense of smell than humans. Cats, despite being solitary hunters, are a social species and cat communication includes the use of a variety of vocalizations (mewing, purring, trilling, hissing, growling, and grunting), as well as cat pheromones and types of cat-specific body language.

Cats have a high breeding rate. Under controlled breeding, they can be bred and shown as registered pedigree pets, a hobby known as cat fancy. Failure to control the breeding of pet cats by neutering and the abandonment of former household pets has resulted in large numbers of feral cats worldwide, requiring population control. This has contributed, along with habitat destruction and other factors, to the extinction of many bird species. Cats have been known to extirpate a bird species within specific regions and may have contributed to the extinction of isolated island populations. Cats are thought to be primarily, though not solely, responsible for the extinction of 33 species of birds, and the presence of feral and free ranging cats makes some locations unsuitable for attempted species reintroduction in otherwise suitable locations.

IDONTGIVEAFUCKVOTEBERNIE

This is why I dislike cats. It should be legal to kill freeroaming/feral cats that do not have a tag, and the owners of the tagged cats that are off of their property should be fined.

the question is who gives a fuck about birds
they do nothing for us
literally nothing

if you put a gun to my head and told me i had to either wring a cat or a bird by the neck i pick the bird every time
ill go through 10 birds before i touch the cat

birds are very important

birds make awful pets, ive had one

as someone who loves peace & quiet, the entertaining interactions you can have with a bird are not worth the random and often incessant noises that seem to be optimized by their very nature to pierce through your ears like a hot knife every time whenever you try to sleep or do something else

is hamster a good pet?

birds can do skateboard


birds can do cooking


what can your dog do other than licking his own balls