How dare you catcall me! You worthless pig! Misogyny!Khelly wrote:
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but seriously who are you
How dare you catcall me! You worthless pig! Misogyny!Khelly wrote:
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repr1se wrote:
Statistically speaking, I should be more afraid of a Christian hate crime than of any Syrian/Muslim. It may be different in Europe, but that's how it is in the US. Christian terrorism dominates this country. .
I have never heard of terrorism done by Christians in the name of Christianity in the past few years. Can you give me an example?repr1se wrote:
Statistically speaking, I should be more afraid of a Christian hate crime than of any Syrian/Muslim. It may be different in Europe, but that's how it is in the US. Christian terrorism dominates this country.Navizel wrote:
And Obama wants to bring rapi- Syrian refugees. What's happening in Europe should be enough reason to not do that. Unfortunately, that's what mapleland's PM did. Also, the far left and its sjw bullshit. I mean, far right is bad too but the counterpart is worse.
The big question is: Should we allow people in and risk our own safety, or keep them out and risk their safety? While absolutes are (obviously) impossible I do believe it's okay to bring in refugees, though the screening process should be much heavier.
There's another issue as well: How will their culture adapt to ours? Islam, as the dominant religion (and its associated culture) is in its most violent phase in a while. They're trying to enforce rules of their culture onto us, in some geographic areas. In Europe there have been rape cases by refugees. There's a massive difference in culture and I believe that, in general, culture of Western civilizations is more humane and should be the ones refugees adapt to, not vice versa.
I identify as a far leftist. I'm not a SJW. I'm in full support of social ISSUES (e.g. Black Lives Matter, equal opportunity, etc), but I fully oppose social JUSTICE (misandric feminism, minority superiority, etc). Because social justice is nonsense and is not based on the facts.
The same is true for far rightists. They may be in support of far right policies but oppose racism and misogyny (i.e. the right wing counterpart of social justice). Again, these issues are not policies and are not based on the facts.
most of them are anti-abortion related. i'll give threeNavizel wrote:
I have never heard of terrorism done by Christians in the name of Christianity in the past few years. Can you give me an example?
September 4, 2015: A Planned Parenthood clinic in Pullman, Washington was intentionally set on fire. No injuries were reported due to the time of day, but the FBI was involved because of a history of domestic terrorism against the clinic.
October 22, 2015: A Planned Parenthood clinic in Claremont, New Hampshire was vandalized by a juvenile intruder. Damaged in the attack were computers, furniture, plumbing fixtures, office equipment, medical equipment, phone lines, windows, and walls. The flooding that resulted from the vandalism also damaged an adjacent business.
November 29, 2015: A shooting at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs, Colorado, left three dead and several injured, and a suspect was apprehended. The suspect had previously acted against other clinics, and referred to himself as a "warrior for the babies" at his hearing. Neighbors and former neighbors described the suspect as "reclusive", and police from several states where the suspect resided described a history of run-ins dating from at least 1997. As of December 2015, the trial of the suspect is on going.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-wei ... 85138.htmlB1rd wrote:
On the topic of problematic (not related to terrorism)...B1rd wrote:
None of your examples prove that it was done because of Christianity, and even if it was it's still just anecdotal evidence.
Yes, Christian are much of a bigger problem than Muslims aren't they.
The overall data are shown in the excerpt I posted above, there are specific examples as well. The most common one I cite is this:Navizel wrote:
I have never heard of terrorism done by Christians in the name of Christianity in the past few years. Can you give me an example?
Nah. They don't deserve the free things they'd get. I look like a hypocrite here since I'm an immigrant but I work so I'm not the only one that benefits here.
BLM is a hate group though. And I don't think black lives matter to black people considering how black on black cases are higher than white to black. Equal opportunity does exist. If you think people are not getting hired because of their skin color then you're stupid. Equal number of male and female in the workplace is also asinine.
I disagree. The government is the reason society hasn't crumbled, in my opinion. Government regulates a lot of things that businesses wouldn't.B1rd wrote:
Anarchism is great. It's the edgy leftists anarcho-kiddies who give anarchism a bad name. All we need is private companies to replace the services the government provides and our society will greatly benefit.
idk man it's probably more uneducated if a person is ignorant enough to think all filipinos are idiotsFuZ wrote:
pinoys shouldnt be able to speak about politics for living in such uneducated country
The overall data are shown in the excerpt I posted above, there are specific examples as well. The most common one I cite is this:Ok, got me there. Islam terrorism is still more large scale though. I don't agree with how the guy did it but abortion is abhorrent.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/02/us/ro ... oting.html
And here's the important bit:
That's true. Refugees do get free things, but how they contribute back to society (if they do at all) is up to them.lol what
Blacks do commit more crime per capita than whites (you have to do the math, but the data are here)So you admit that Blacks commit more crimes but you complain that there are more blacks in jail? Although I agree that justice should be fair not only between whites and non whites but also between men and women.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-wei ... 85138.htmlI'm not clicking on your stupid leftist news sites. If you want to share something link to studies directly.
The important part is here, key words are "non-Muslim extremists":
Christians have differing political opinions don't make them a problem. I think immigrants are 'problematic', because they tend to vote left, for more wellfare, a more authoritarian government, et cetera. The real problem isn't the demographics, it's the democracy itself. Tyranny of the majority, and all that.repr1se wrote:
On the topic of problematic (not related to terrorism)...
I'm a former Christian. I went on missions trips to Cameroon (Africa) and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. I was a pianist on a worship team and attended a weekly Bible study, as well as three church services every week. Now I'm an atheist.
Speaking from the inferior American race, yes, Christians are a bigger problem than Muslims. Christian politicians are trying to block civil rights for minorities because it violates their own religion. Christian politicians want businesses to be able to discriminate against minorities because they don't want anyone outside of their group to interact with them. Christian politicians want Creationism (which none have observed, and none have proven) taught in schools instead of natural selection. Just to name a few civil issues.
Christians are majority assholes. I can write more about that but it's irrelevant to the thread.
I disagree. The government is the reason society hasn't crumbled, in my opinion. Government regulates a lot of things that businesses wouldn't.Goes to show a leftist's understanding of the econemy. Government don't pay for roads, taxpayers do. Taxpayers are people. Now what if, people could pay for the roads they use directly, rather than being forced to give their money to the government and having the government use the money however it wishes?
You go the the supermarket and pick up some meat and vegetables. How do you know it's safe? The government regulates it.
You get some water. How do you know it's safe? The government regulates it.
Your friend's house catches fire. Why does the fire department come? The government created it.
Crime? Government created the police force.
Roads? Government funded.
etc.
No.FuZ wrote:
can someone move this shit thread to GD
No.Zain Sugieres wrote:
#CanadaAnnexUSA2016
who would want reddit as their leaderZain Sugieres wrote:
#CanadaAnnexUSA2016
plsZain Sugieres wrote:
#CanadaAnnexUSA2016
Not forcing you to, I image the most important paragraphs. If I missed that one, my bad.Navizel wrote:
I ain't clicking that huffpo link niqqa
lol whatOnly makes sense, refugees are technically immigrants. They take from us, they give back.
So you admit that Blacks commit more crimes but you complain that there are more blacks in jail? Although I agree that justice should be fair not only between whites and non whites but also between men and women.I'm not complaining that there are more blacks in jail: I'm complaining that blacks have a much higher chance of detainment/imprisonment than whites for the same crime.
From this I can probably dismiss whatever else you write.B1rd wrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-wei ... 85138.htmlI'm not clicking on your stupid leftist news sites. If you want to share something link to studies directly.
The important part is here, key words are "non-Muslim extremists":
So lets have a look at the information in the text .jpg...Going to leave this here.
'Since Sep11'
So you're discounting the largest terrorist attack on American soil for what reason? If you include the deaths from that, the number would dwarf any of the deaths from non Muslims. And it's non-Muslim terrorist, not Christian terrorists. So, let's include 9/11, Muslim kills vs Christian kills, and the Muslim number is multiple times higher. And you're also ignoring the fact that in America, there are hundreds or thousands of times more Christians than Muslim. So if we look at the statistics per capita, the killing are skewed in the Muslim side to an extreme degree.
And that's not even counting all of the terror attacks in Europe, where the terrorists are focusing their efforts. It is a first hand example of the decline of Western societies when they let in large numbers of 'refugees' and Muslims. For example, rape and crime statistics skyrocket after immigrants. And then there's the financial burden of giving welfare to so many people who are unwilling or unable to integrate into the economy (and the society itself, for that matter). And a thousand more reasons why refugees are nothing but detrimental to a country. I think I'm quite lucky to be able to live where I am now in a largely homogenous white society that doesn't have these problems. But the way things are going, that might not last long either.
Christians have differing political opinions don't make them a problem. I think immigrants are 'problematic', because they tend to vote left, for more wellfare, a more authoritarian government, et cetera. The real problem isn't the demographics, it's the democracy itself. Tyranny of the majority, and all that.Immigrants are problematic because they vote left, and you vote right.
Minorities don't get any extra civil rights because they already have equal rights to everyone else. Businesses should be allowed to discriminate against whomever they please, it's their business.
Goes to show a leftist's understanding of the econemy. Government don't pay for roads, taxpayers do. Taxpayers are people. Now what if, people could pay for the roads they use directly, rather than being forced to give their money to the government and having the government use the money however it wishes?They wouldn't. They wouldn't pay for roads, they wouldn't pay for a private police force, fire department, etc.
What if people pay for private police forces and firefighter?
The government is inherently inefficient compared to the free market. It is also prone to corruption. And mass murder. If you lift up a stone in a river, water takes its place. Private companies can provide all the services of a government, and do it better. There is no reason why businesses wouldn't provide the services that a government does.
Current American politics is a joke, therefore, keep it in Off Topic.FuZ wrote:
can someone move this shit thread to GD
I'm not flatteredRoseusJaeger wrote:
This thread has gone to hell and back, but it's fun to read. So far, rep1se seems to be the one with most sanity and rational sense.
I hope Trump winsroshan117 wrote:
AYYY TODAY ARE THE PRIMARIES IN MY STATE
LETS HOPE TRUMP DOESNT WIN MY STATE YEAAAA?
bb come backRoseusJaeger wrote:
I wasn't trying to.
IKR IM SO MAD TRUMP WON AHGGGHGGHGHGHGHGHGHHHGGHHGGHHGHKhelly wrote:
Connecticut · 28 delegates
40% reporting · Trump won and has 16 delegates
Delaware · 16 delegates
Trump won and has 16 delegates
Maryland · 38 delegates
3% reporting · Trump won and has 26 delegates
Pennsylvania · 17 delegates
Trump won and has 17 delegates
Rhode Island · 19 delegates
56% reporting · Trump won and has 7 delegates
They are both great men. :^)Mahogany wrote:
In my history class we have fun drawing parallels between Trump and Hitler
he is so shit people are still voting for rubio, manKhelly wrote:
Rhode Island · 19 delegates
91% reporting · Trump won and has 9 delegates, Kasich has 2
Ted Cruz is so shit even kasich is getting delegates over him
TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMPxxdeathx wrote:
Clinton vs Trump 2016
That's sensible, but we can agree that the minimum wage should be a livable wage, no? Of course, minimum wage shouldn't be able to afford luxuries but I believe it should be enough to sustain food, rent and bills.Dulcet wrote:
I actually like Bernie's idea of taxing purchased shares because it would create enough revenue for the policies he has promised for such as free education and government provided health care (which I don't think even matter now, since his chances of winning are dim). However, his federal 15$ minimum wage idea was completely bonkers and I'm happy he stopped bringing it up because minimum wage should be calculated per city's population and revenue.
Trump is definitely my plan B because he actually happens to have a sensible tax plan whereas Cruz wants it to be a fixed rate even though he loves talking for the true Can-- American blue collar people, the kind of people who need a tax reform the most (Cruz is not even American so I don't even know why the fuck he's still running). At the same time though, Trump's tax plan kind of goes out of the window if you consider the cost of the infamous wall (Mexico is not going to pay for it, it's just another stupid bait like the $15 dollar minimum wage), let alone the cost of checking literally every illegal immigrant's background and then letting them back in once they're "clear" or whatever. I want the immigration system to be tightened as much as the next guy, but I would also like a plan that won't cost the taxpayers another stack of billions. It would be amazing if that money, instead, could be used to create a universal care system like any other civilized country. For fuck's sake if Moldova can do it with the amount of money they have, then so can we.Cruz is the epitome of modern fundamentalist evangelical, and no one takes him seriously because everything out of his mouth came from a 1700 year old book.
And for all the fear mongering, I believe that if you're a legal, law-abiding immigrant, you shouldn't be afraid of Trump. Simple as that, really.I don't think the issue is with immigration, but rather that Trump is alienating people related to immigrants. My parents are Asian immigrants and they feel the same.
Also if you have a vagina for the love of god please don't vote for Clinton just because she also happens to have one.Hillary don't care about no women.
People need to realize that Bill Clinton won't come back or be involved at all if Hillary is elected. Most of her voters have voted for Clinton during his campaign and they're expecting her to be like her husband (though he clearly stated he doesn't wish to be married to her and who the fuck can blame him). People are so fucking dumb. Bill is gone. Bill is fucking gone (cries).+1. Bill, as the First Man, would be pacing the White House waiting for the end of the 4 year term just to get out.
"Live-able" paychecks differ from each state. For example, if you like in Missisisppi where the state minimum wage is $7.25 it's because things and rent are REALLY cheap. If all the sudden it gets raised to $15, not only will it dramatically raise cost of living, but there just won't be enough money to FEDERALLY pay $15 dollars an hour per each individual. It's just too much money, and that's why I believe minimum wage should really depend on how affordable it is to live in your location. I believe people should have enough money for shelter and food, but I don't believe that our citizens should just rely the minimum wage alone.repr1se wrote:
That's sensible, but we can agree that the minimum wage should be a livable wage, no? Of course, minimum wage shouldn't be able to afford luxuries but I believe it should be enough to sustain food, rent and bills.Dulcet wrote:
I actually like Bernie's idea of taxing purchased shares because it would create enough revenue for the policies he has promised for such as free education and government provided health care (which I don't think even matter now, since his chances of winning are dim). However, his federal 15$ minimum wage idea was completely bonkers and I'm happy he stopped bringing it up because minimum wage should be calculated per city's population and revenue.
Hillary is clearly holding him hostage for political fame. Every time he looks at the camera I try to count the amount of eye blinks just to see if there's a pattern and a code behind itrepr1se wrote:
Bill, as the First Man, would be pacing the White House waiting for the end of the 4 year term just to get out.
No, biased information is worse than no information. You don't see me linking stuff from Stormfront, do you? Link to objective facts, not sites that will try to manipulate information to suit their agenda. Like the information that I already debunked.repr1se wrote:
Going to leave this here.
>If you want to share something link to studies directly.
A liberal news site is better than nothing at all.
Immigrants are problematic because they vote left, and you vote right.You missed the point. If your favoured political system one where one side can just import voters, then that probably isn't a very good system.
Just going to leave it at that.
The thing with liberalism is that it assumes the government will use people's money solely for the good of the community. That doesn't happen.ftfy
Kansas had a governor that believed this theory, so much so that he cut taxes immensely. He said it would create jobs among other things. Not giving the government money doesn't work, as the data show. The Kansas City Star, a newspaper in that very state, agrees. Link: http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-c ... 54187.htmlCutting taxes is not the same as creating an anarcho-capitilistic society. You don't leave the traditional medium of funding all of the public services in place and then just not use it, things don't work like that.
Image for the important bit:
Not having a government means there's no one to protect the rights of anyone. If there were to be a private police force, the one that owns it can say "Hey, I don't like my neighbors, so when they dial the emergency number ignore them." If they paid for private firefighters, the person/group that owns it can say "I don't like you, so the FD won't come when you need help." That's why, even though a public service is ineffective, is still more effective than a private service.No they wouldn't. If a security provider refused to issue services, their reputation would suffer greatly and people would switch to their rivals. Private companies have every incentive to offer the best services possible. Public government services don't, because they have no competition.
Yes, the government is prone to corruption, but simultaneously big money is prone to corruption. The only difference between the two is that the government, once found, is held accountable while big money isn't.How is the government accountable to corruption while businesses aren't? The American political system is blatantly corrupt. What can you do about it?
Khelly wrote:
Also Ted Cruz looks like he's perpetually going to cry or he is going to take a big shit. Is that just me who sees this?
as an legal immigrant with a green card, I can tell you that it's 100% trueKhelly wrote:
I think people who pander to illegal immigrants are alienating legal immigrants by devaluing the process those people went through to legitimately come intonthe country.
also thisKhelly wrote:
I think people who pander to illegal immigrants are alienating legal immigrants by devaluing the process those people went through to legitimately come intonthe country.
Canada is more like the US i guessKhelly wrote:
Why does everyone want to move to Canada and not Mexico?
maybe because they have to learn a new language?Khelly wrote:
Why does everyone want to move to Canada and not Mexico?
because canada is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NICEKhelly wrote:
Why does everyone want to move to Canada and not Mexico?
Data don't lie. AFAIK I summoned data rather than the opinion section.B1rd wrote:
No, biased information is worse than no information. You don't see me linking stuff from Stormfront, do you? Link to objective facts, not sites that will try to manipulate information to suit their agenda. Like the information that I already debunked.
kekrepr1se wrote:
FuZ wrote:
who the fuck bumped this thread
I have an idea: if you don't like it, don't go into it and stop bitching about it.FuZ wrote:
yeah but its the worst thread ot had this year so
I'm surprised too, but the thing that is more confusing to meKisses wrote:
A roshan thread got to page 11 without being locked, amazing
Really in America we get the fantastic choice of a) liars and crooks and b) full on retarded chimpanzeesKhelly wrote:
the truth is biased against conservatives.
i wanna go to canadaPhilosofikal wrote:
Really in America we get the fantastic choice of a) liars and crooks and b) full on retarded chimpanzeesKhelly wrote:
the truth is biased against conservatives.
It's amazing how democracy was started in America and done better virtually everywhere else
only the weebs thoughFuZ wrote:
then you realize japaneses hate foreigner
i like your personalityKhelly wrote:
That's just, like, my personality mate.
Khelly's personality is like marmiteAomi wrote:
i like your personalityKhelly wrote:
That's just, like, my personality mate.
ACtually I'm a pork faggot.Kisses wrote:
Khelly's personality is like marmite
america was never great. Just look at all the americans in the threadHika wrote:
voting for dtrump
To make America great again
I dont see myself wearing a wedding dress, sorryFuZ wrote:
be my bride
no you wont, I liftFuZ wrote:
i will force you