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EdamaMe411
はああ、JUDAさんとTKSさんのモッドなんて恐れ多くて、、、やってやろうじゃねえの!!!!

まず遅くなってしまったことにお詫び申し上げます

逝きます
Futsuu
00:48:756 (10) - いらなくてもいいと感じました。さほど音圧の変化も感じませんでしたし、スピンにもってくために詰めるにしてもFutsuuならその必要なく、dkdkdkでつないだほうがいいかなって思いました。

01:16:756 (11) - 1/2右。ここにはいるよりかは遅れで入れたほうがplay感はよかったです。
01:20:756 (11) - 01:24:756 (12) - とかも同様の意見ですので割愛。

01:28:756 - 入れるのもあり?まあ難しくなるので、お任せします。

01:43:881 (9) - この音が微妙です。内藤がしっくりくるという感じです :(

Muzu
00:37:131 (15,16,17,18,19) - 音程で考えるとdkddkって思いました
00:45:131 (17,18,19,20,21) - ^、、、逆手なので難しいですかね。

00:55:631 (9) - d  00:54:131 (7) - にdあるので、音程で合わすなら真ん中dのほうがいいです。最後の部分も同じっす
01:43:881 (14) - Futsuuと同じ理由で削除?

Oni
書いてみますけど、あってないようなもんです。

01:51:631 (13) - d。。。Muzuと同じ理由。
00:55:631 (13) - ^

01:33:256 (27) - 1/2左。01:33:756 - ノーツ追加。01:33:756 - ここに音は欲しいです。
01:41:256 (29) - 1/2左で01:41:756 - ^

TKSさんのいんな~おに
00:09:756 - ここはdでつなげたほうがいいと思います。スクラッチ音結構なってるし、そのあとのノーツも一泊置いてるので、つないでも大丈夫かと思われます。

00:15:756 (138) - k。。。。シンセの音に合わせてるっぽいんで素直に音程をとったほうがいいと思いました。00:15:631 (137,138,139) - kk d でもありかなとも思ったのですが、お任せします。

00:24:131 (188,189,190,191,192) - 00:28:131 (226,227,228,229,230) - ddkkk?普通に後続につずくリフレインパートっぽいんで、00:26:131 (207,208,209,210,211) - みたいなddkkkの繰り返しでもいいんじゃないでしょうか

00:35:131 (289) - k?指の運びがスムーズにいったのはkだったので、、、、主旋律も若干音上がってるっぽいし、、
00:39:131 (326) - ^

01:01:256 (17) - ここから始まるのを00:59:256 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - とおんなじリズムにしたほうがいい感じではないでしょうか?個人的な会見なので何とも言えませんが、こういうリズムは繰り返して使ってこそなんじゃないかな~て感じです(リズムとかで意図があるならすいません :o

いじょうです! ガンバて下さい! :)
Topic Starter
JUDYDANNY
"Hanjamon"
Hey Judy as requested, sorry for the wait

  • d=Don
    D=Big Don
    k=Katsu
    K=Big Katsu
[General]

  • All seems fine

    This amount of bookmarks ww
    :arrow: AS USUAL lol
[Kantan]

  • 01:31:631 (5) - how about change this to d? this part has more notes and players barely can rest so ddd is more simple and easier, also, i think this can emphatize better with the next kkk 01:33:131 (8,9,10) - :arrow: changed~
    01:39:631 (5) - if you changed ^ this note to d too :arrow: re-arranged the structure, maybe cleaned the more.
    01:43:631 - i was thinking to suggest you to change this note to d (kkd), but this will be the only kkd in the whole diff and can confuse players :arrow: same as above, re-arranged.
[Futsuu]

  • i don't know what i should suggest here ;w;
[Muzukashii]

  • The patterns of Muzu are fine imo but i want to suggest some adding of 1/4

    For example:
    Adding a k in 01:31:818 - and change 01:31:881 - to k (kkk)
    01:39:818 - same here, adding a k here and changing 01:39:756 - to k

    I know it's 240 bpm but are just two triplets kkk, and i think they can be good
    :arrow: keep lol
[Oni]

  • 00:15:818 (16) - what about change this note to k? (dkk), sounds good imo :arrow: keep~ , for plays of feelings and consistency.
    00:16:256 (19,20,21,22,23,24,25) - i remember this was DDDDDDD before ;w; :arrow: ;;ww;; for kind to plays orz
    01:36:631 - change this note to k? i think sounds good :arrow: fixed.
This is all, nice mapset, good luck!

"EdamaMe411"
はああ、JUDAさんとTKSさんのモッドなんて恐れ多くて、、、やってやろうじゃねえの!!!!

まず遅くなってしまったことにお詫び申し上げます

逝きます
[Futsuu]00:48:756 (10) - いらなくてもいいと感じました。さほど音圧の変化も感じませんでしたし、スピンにもってくために詰めるにしてもFutsuuならその必要なく、dkdkdkでつないだほうがいいかなって思いました。
:arrow: dkdkdkが続くのは手前のリズムと差異が作れないためkeepで

01:16:756 (11) - 1/2右。ここにはいるよりかは遅れで入れたほうがplay感はよかったです。
01:20:756 (11) - 01:24:756 (12) - とかも同様の意見ですので割愛。
:arrow: ボーカルじゃなくてシンセの跳ねる具合を裏拍使って表現したいのでnochangeで、play感的にも出遅れでリズムが詰まります

01:28:756 - 入れるのもあり?まあ難しくなるので、お任せします。
:arrow: 1/1続くのも確かに変なので前のリズムと一致させることにします
01:43:881 (9) - この音が微妙です。内藤がしっくりくるという感じです :(
:arrow: 少し変えました


[Muzu]00:37:131 (15,16,17,18,19) - 音程で考えるとdkddkって思いました
00:45:131 (17,18,19,20,21) - ^、、、逆手なので難しいですかね。
:arrow: 音程考えるならkdddkの方がいいかと dkddkだと2音目と3~4音目に対する違和感とリズム悪がかなり目立ってしまいとてもやりづらいと感じました、逆手云々なしで

00:55:631 (9) - d  00:54:131 (7) - にdあるので、音程で合わすなら真ん中dのほうがいいです。最後の部分も同じっす
:arrow: 多少誇張気味でも重低音の使用はなるべく避けたいです, (7)はもっとも沈み込むところなのでここだけ使用してます
01:43:881 (14) - Futsuuと同じ理由で削除?
:arrow: ドラムリズムのためno remove.

[Oni]書いてみますけど、あってないようなもんです。

01:51:631 (13) - d。。。Muzuと同じ理由。
00:55:631 (13) - ^
:arrow: Muzuと同じ理由

01:33:256 (27) - 1/2左。01:33:756 - ノーツ追加。01:33:756 - ここに音は欲しいです。 :arrow: 256はバスドラ有、移動先何もなしのためno change, 756は bpm240でゴリゴリ詰まってるのである程度のスパンで1/1のリズムで休憩を持たせたいです 756に詰めると休みがほとんどない;;;
01:41:256 (29) - 1/2左で01:41:756 - ^
:arrow: same.

いじょうです! ガンバて下さい! :)
Thanks for mod~~ :)
BNかQAT探すか...
TKS

EdamaMe411 wrote:

TKSさんのいんな~おに
00:09:756 - ここはdでつなげたほうがいいと思います。スクラッチ音結構なってるし、そのあとのノーツも一泊置いてるので、つないでも大丈夫かと思われます。 - 00:09:881 - を強調するための流れに全く合わないのでそのままにします。

00:15:756 (138) - k。。。。シンセの音に合わせてるっぽいんで素直に音程をとったほうがいいと思いました。00:15:631 (137,138,139) - kk d でもありかなとも思ったのですが、お任せします。 - 直前のパートで音程を取らずに通してたのですが、、ここだけ音程を取ることで前後との整合性が崩れるのでこのままにします。

00:24:131 (188,189,190,191,192) - 00:28:131 (226,227,228,229,230) - ddkkk?普通に後続につずくリフレインパートっぽいんで、00:26:131 (207,208,209,210,211) - みたいなddkkkの繰り返しでもいいんじゃないでしょうか - 普通に後続につずくリフレインパートの意味がよくわからなかったんですが、メロディがそもそも違いますし、リフレインでもないですし、ここで同じパターンを使うことに違和感を覚えました。

00:35:131 (289) - k?指の運びがスムーズにいったのはkだったので、、、、主旋律も若干音上がってるっぽいし、、
00:39:131 (326) - ^ - 他の方のmodで修正した箇所です。00:34:381 (283) - と比べても音程は落ち着いてますしパターンとしても面白みがなかったので d を置いてます。

01:01:256 (17) - ここから始まるのを00:59:256 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - とおんなじリズムにしたほうがいい感じではないでしょうか?個人的な会見なので何とも言えませんが、こういうリズムは繰り返して使ってこそなんじゃないかな~て感じです(リズムとかで意図があるならすいません :o- 個人的な見解(会見ではないですよ)にはなりますが、なぜ「こういうリズムは繰り返して使ってこそ」と感じられたのか、文章を読んでも具体性に欠けますし、それでいて私があたかも誤った選択(ノーツ配置)をしているかのような書き方なので、理解に苦しむとしか言いようがありません。「~て感じです」と言って終わらず「何故そう感じたのか」を書くのがmodであって、あなたの個人的な会見はただの感想文ですよ。

いじょうです! ガンバて下さい! :)
EdamaMe411

TKS wrote:

EdamaMe411 wrote:

TKSさんのいんな~おに
00:09:756 - ここはdでつなげたほうがいいと思います。スクラッチ音結構なってるし、そのあとのノーツも一泊置いてるので、つないでも大丈夫かと思われます。 - 00:09:881 - を強調するための流れに全く合わないのでそのままにします。

00:15:756 (138) - k。。。。シンセの音に合わせてるっぽいんで素直に音程をとったほうがいいと思いました。00:15:631 (137,138,139) - kk d でもありかなとも思ったのですが、お任せします。 - 直前のパートで音程を取らずに通してたのですが、、ここだけ音程を取ることで前後との整合性が崩れるのでこのままにします。

00:24:131 (188,189,190,191,192) - 00:28:131 (226,227,228,229,230) - ddkkk?普通に後続につずくリフレインパートっぽいんで、00:26:131 (207,208,209,210,211) - みたいなddkkkの繰り返しでもいいんじゃないでしょうか - 普通に後続につずくリフレインパートの意味がよくわからなかったんですが、メロディがそもそも違いますし、リフレインでもないですし、ここで同じパターンを使うことに違和感を覚えました。

00:35:131 (289) - k?指の運びがスムーズにいったのはkだったので、、、、主旋律も若干音上がってるっぽいし、、
00:39:131 (326) - ^ - 他の方のmodで修正した箇所です。00:34:381 (283) - と比べても音程は落ち着いてますしパターンとしても面白みがなかったので d を置いてます。

01:01:256 (17) - ここから始まるのを00:59:256 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - とおんなじリズムにしたほうがいい感じではないでしょうか?個人的な会見なので何とも言えませんが、こういうリズムは繰り返して使ってこそなんじゃないかな~て感じです(リズムとかで意図があるならすいません :o- 個人的な見解(会見ではないですよ)にはなりますが、なぜ「こういうリズムは繰り返して使ってこそ」と感じられたのか、文章を読んでも具体性に欠けますし、それでいて私があたかも誤った選択(ノーツ配置)をしているかのような書き方なので、理解に苦しむとしか言いようがありません。「~て感じです」と言って終わらず「何故そう感じたのか」を書くのがmodであって、あなたの個人的な会見はただの感想文ですよ。

いじょうです! ガンバて下さい! :)

感想はモッドではない、そこは申し訳なかったです。ただ軽く勘違いされてるよう感じなので言っておくと、べつにあなたが間違ってるから悪いなんて表現は使っていないと思います。想像力は豊かなので素晴らしいとは思うのですが、そう思ってしまわれたら流す方が得策なのではないでしょうか。あなたがノーツの配置に関して間違ってるという勘違いをなされ、イライラしたお返しに漢字の間違いで煽っているのなら、それもなかなか悲しいことです :cry:
Topic Starter
JUDYDANNY
grav > pending (Jan 19)
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Nardoxyribonucleic
Hi, here comes the M4M as requested.

  • [General]
  1. 00:56:256 - this timing point could just be removed from Kantan to Oni as it is not in use.
  2. Hmm, no audio bitrate value in the song mp3...?
  • [Kantan]
  1. 00:22:131 (1) - consider adding finish here for the prominent sound ?
  2. 00:26:131 (1) - 00:30:131 (1) - same as ^
  3. 01:42:381 (2) - delete and change 01:43:381 (5) - to d ? Currently the pattern is a bit rigid from 01:41:131 to 01:43:631 -
  • [Futsuu]
  1. 00:09:881 (9) - maybe remove finish ? I think it is quite overpowered for this level of difficulty.
  2. 00:13:631 (14,1) - you may swap these notes to d k to follow the pitch increase there.
  3. 00:22:131 (1) - same as Kantan
  4. 00:26:131 (1) - 00:30:131 (1) - same as ^
  5. 00:37:131 (10,11,12,13) - try d kkk ? This would provide a greater variety of patterns.
  6. 00:48:631 (9) - move to 00:48:506 - and change to k ? This would fit the music in a way better.
  7. 01:06:131 (19) - add finish here as you did in Kantan for consistency ?
  8. 01:11:131 (3) - k could accompany the high-pitched sound well.
  9. 01:33:631 (15,1) - same as 00:13:631 (14,1) -
  10. 01:41:631 (15,1) - ^
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:16:006 (11) - as the pitch becomes really high, k would work better imo.
  2. 00:22:131 (1) - same as Kantan
  3. 00:26:131 (1) - 00:30:131 (1) - ^
  4. 01:43:131 (8) - same as 00:16:006 (11) -
  • [Oni]
  1. 00:15:818 (16) - maybe move this note to 00:15:693 - and change to k for the background sound ?
  2. 00:22:131 (1) - same as Kantan
  3. 00:30:131 (1) - ^
  4. 00:50:631 - you may use 0.6x SV at this timing point to reduce overlap of notes.
  5. 01:10:631 (4) - changing this note to d would help emphasize the pitch increase at 01:10:881 (5) -
  6. 01:43:693 (16) - move to 01:43:943 - ? The flow would seem to be better and this could increase pattern variety as well.
  7. 01:45:256 - same as 00:50:631 -
  • [TK'S Inner Oni]
  1. 00:41:631 (350,351,352,353,354) - maybe you can change this to kkkkk simply. kdkdk seems to be a bit out of place imo.
  2. 01:10:256 (67) - move to 01:10:381 - and change to d to help focus on the background pitch at 01:10:506 - ?
  3. 01:10:881 (70) - you may add d here afterwards if you change ^ for coherence.
  4. 01:21:256 (167,168,169,170) and 01:37:256 (350,351,352,353) - although it is not recommended to use 1/6 notes over a 1/4 instrument, these ones surprisingly fit the music well. So you may still keep them.
  5. 01:49:881 (469) - as the music here is very similar to 00:53:881 - , you may use k as well for consistency.
You may call me back after that~ :D
Topic Starter
JUDYDANNY
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Topic Starter
JUDYDANNY
"Nardoxyribonucleic"
Hi, here comes the M4M as requested.

  • [General]
  1. 00:56:256 - this timing point could just be removed from Kantan to Oni as it is not in use. :arrow: Yep.
  2. Hmm, no audio bitrate value in the song mp3...? :arrow: I didnt notice that omg..... changed lol.
    • About New mp3
    1. Bitrate is 192kbps.
    2. offset +559ms.
    3. All of the hitsound volume raised about +5~10%.
  • [Kantan]
  1. 00:22:131 (1) - consider adding finish here for the prominent sound ? :arrow: keep , sounded still not noister yet and seems not the best for build up imo.
  2. 00:26:131 (1) - 00:30:131 (1) - same as ^ :arrow: same.
  3. 01:42:381 (2) - delete and change 01:43:381 (5) - to d ? Currently the pattern is a bit rigid from 01:41:131 to 01:43:631 - :arrow: Yep.
  • [Futsuu]
  1. 00:09:881 (9) - maybe remove finish ? I think it is quite overpowered for this level of difficulty. :arrow: fixed.
  2. 00:13:631 (14,1) - you may swap these notes to d k to follow the pitch increase there. :arrow: uum... keep the following backchorus.
  3. 00:22:131 (1) - same as Kantan :arrow: same.
  4. 00:26:131 (1) - 00:30:131 (1) - same as ^ :arrow: same.
  5. 00:37:131 (10,11,12,13) - try d kkk ? This would provide a greater variety of patterns. :arrow: sounds cool!
  6. 00:48:631 (9) - move to 00:48:506 - and change to k ? This would fit the music in a way better. :arrow: Sure.
  7. 01:06:131 (19) - add finish here as you did in Kantan for consistency ? :arrow: lol, fixed~
  8. 01:11:131 (3) - k could accompany the high-pitched sound well. :arrow: fixed.
  9. 01:33:631 (15,1) - same as 00:13:631 (14,1) - :arrow: same.
  10. 01:41:631 (15,1) - ^ :arrow: same.
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:16:006 (11) - as the pitch becomes really high, k would work better imo. :arrow: changed the finisher instead, I still keep to focus the drums mainly.
  2. 00:22:131 (1) - same as Kantan :arrow: same.
  3. 00:26:131 (1) - 00:30:131 (1) - ^ :arrow: same.
  4. 01:43:131 (8) - same as 00:16:006 (11) - :arrow: no change , the reason is same as 16:006.
  • [Oni]
  1. 00:15:818 (16) - maybe move this note to 00:15:693 - and change to k for the background sound ? :arrow: tried to change it.
  2. 00:22:131 (1) - same as Kantan :arrow: same.
  3. 00:30:131 (1) - ^ :arrow: same.
  4. 00:50:631 - you may use 0.6x SV at this timing point to reduce overlap of notes. :arrow: fixed.
  5. 01:10:631 (4) - changing this note to d would help emphasize the pitch increase at 01:10:881 (5) - :arrow: no change to focus the drums mainly. low-tone bass is still not appeared yet.
  6. 01:43:693 (16) - move to 01:43:943 - ? The flow would seem to be better and this could increase pattern variety as well. :arrow: changed the pattern some.
  7. 01:45:256 - same as 00:50:631 - :arrow: fixed.
You may call me back after that~ :D
Thanks for mod Nardo~~ヾ(๑>◡<)ノ"
TKS

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Hi, here comes the M4M as requested.

  • [TK'S Inner Oni]
  1. 00:41:631 (350,351,352,353,354) - maybe you can change this to kkkkk simply. kdkdk seems to be a bit out of place imo. - kdkdk fits better for the song.
  2. 01:10:256 (67) - move to 01:10:381 - and change to d to help focus on the background pitch at 01:10:506 - ? - im just following the hi-hat sound. your suggestion is still nice but it doesnt fit my flow.
  3. 01:10:881 (70) - you may add d here afterwards if you change ^ for coherence.
  4. 01:21:256 (167,168,169,170) and 01:37:256 (350,351,352,353) - although it is not recommended to use 1/6 notes over a 1/4 instrument, these ones surprisingly fit the music well. So you may still keep them. - so wanna keep.
  5. 01:49:881 (469) - as the music here is very similar to 00:53:881 - , you may use k as well for consistency. - this one is quite nice catch. fixed.
You may call me back after that~ :D
thanks for the mod!

.osu : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/263 ... Oni%5D.rar
多分まえとおなじくらいの音量のmp3 : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26397996/osu/OS.mp3
Raiden
hit me up when Nardo has bubbled~
Topic Starter
JUDYDANNY
Updated (¦3[___]
Nardoxyribonucleic
A quick recheck here. (no kd)

[General]

Preview point is unsnapped from Kantan to Oni. Please set it at 01:14:627 -

  • [Oni]
  1. 00:22:690 (1) - maybe you accidentally changed this to D ? You didn't do it at 00:30:690 (1) - , so this would be a bit inconsistent.
Topic Starter
JUDYDANNY

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

A quick recheck here. (no kd)

[General]

Preview point is unsnapped from Kantan to Oni. Please set it at 01:14:627 -
:arrow: omg-1ms.....fixed~.
  • [Oni]
  1. 00:22:690 (1) - maybe you accidentally changed this to D ? You didn't do it at 00:30:690 (1) - , so this would be a bit inconsistent.
    :arrow: Yes, mistake lol. fixed~
Nardoxyribonucleic
The set looks fine now in terms of breaks in lower difficulties, spread and pattern usage. Nice map.

Bubbled~
Nwolf
TKS forcing difficulty, huh
Raiden
la vida es una tómbola tom tom tom tom bola

[TKS]First time I mod a TKS map.
:!: Suggestion: fill the gaps on between the powerful beats 00:03:815 - 00:04:815 - etc.
:arrow: Explanation: pretty sure about what you mapped at the beginning, but I wonder if you would fill the gaps in between notes like 00:02:690 (16,17) - , they feel quite powerful and not mapping them looks like a big opportunity missed for me :(. If you decided to accept, do the same on all (00:06:815 - etc.)

:?: 00:15:627 - Add a don? K ddd K flows really good for me. Also, you would avoid the long 1/2 chain :)
:?: 00:16:815 (140,141,142,143,144,145,146) - Lacks kat sound? Maybe do 00:16:940 (141,142,144,145) - kats?

:?: 00:23:565 - Add kat? There is a faint instrument that plays on background and would help giving flow from 00:23:440 (177) - to the 1/6 dddk, as it would already have momentum from the hand movement, instead of being out of a sudden.
00:25:565 - ^
00:27:565 - ^
00:29:565 - ^ every 2 secs ww

:arrow: 00:30:690 - Maybe the 1/2 chain remains for too long, add 1/4 notes somewhere? Just suggesting :?:

Amazing flow for the next part~

:!: The background scratch goes up until 00:50:690 - , so it would be better to map those two notes (00:50:502 - and 00:50:565 - , and leave 1/2 gap for finisher)

:arrow: Kiai:
:?: 01:19:377 (138) - Change to a don? kddkk doesn't quite fit to me in the end, and the k_k at 01:19:440 (139,140) - would flow better if you changed to kdddk the previous pattern (IMO).
01:37:377 (344) - Same as first suggestion.

[Oni]
:!: 00:14:690 (1,4,7) - Forgot Finisher?

:?: 00:16:815 (19,20,21,22,23,24,25) - Same as TKS' suggestion, I think it lacks kat sounds.
00:22:690 (1) - Finisher for stanza begin?
:arrow: 00:46:690 (1) - All section lacks Finishers? O.O
01:12:690 (12,16,20) - ^
Nothing else.

[Muzukashii]
:!: 00:16:815 (12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - Similar as rest of diffs.
:?: 00:22:690 (1) - Finish for stanza begin
I think it doesn't hurt if you add kat 00:54:440 - , for better spread of note density with Futsuu (Oni has 1 more note, but Muzu has same as Muzukashii)
Same in 01:50:440 - ^
01:34:315 - Add kat? There is enough with 3/2 break (imo) for intense part like Kiai :)
01:42:315 - ^

[Futsuu]
:!: I think it's better if you follow claps, instead of bass drum (claps are most noticeable)
On section 00:58:690 - :arrow: Map the offbeat instead at 00:59:190 - , and like this on all stanzas (this is only IMO).

[Kantan]
:!: Same suggestion as in Futsuu on 00:58:690 - section, I think it would be better if you swapped rhythm to offbeat notes, because claps are more noticeable musically this time. (Suggestion)
That's all, call me back (¦3[___](¦3[___]
Nwolf
also reconsider 1/6
Topic Starter
JUDYDANNY

Raiden wrote:

[Oni]
:!: 00:14:690 (1,4,7) - Forgot Finisher?
:arrow: Not plays the best , similer as 00:05:690 (16,17,18,19,20) - .

:?: 00:16:815 (19,20,21,22,23,24,25) - Same as TKS' suggestion, I think it lacks kat sounds.
:arrow: Intentional for plays, players need the just simple following that sounds on BASS.

00:22:690 (1) - Finisher for stanza begin?
:arrow: Sounds not louder yet. Still calmer to me.

:arrow: 00:46:690 (1) - All section lacks Finishers? O.O
:arrow: Sounds not the noisiest and plays a bit hard with 240 BPM. keep for now.

01:12:690 (12,16,20) - ^  :arrow: Same.
Nothing else.

[Muzukashii]
:!: 00:16:815 (12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - Similar as rest of diffs. :arrow: No need to rest imo. Imcompleted to follow them, plays and (also as you known?) sounds not the best.Keep.
:?: 00:22:690 (1) - Finish for stanza begin :arrow: Same as other diffs.
I think it doesn't hurt if you add kat 00:54:440 - , for better spread of note density with Futsuu (Oni has 1 more note, but Muzu has same as Muzukashii)
Same in 01:50:440 - ^ :arrow: Sounded not the best to me,
@Futsuu and Muzukashii
From 00:48:690 - has 1/2 dense >>> From 00:51:690 - has 1/1 the highest dense.
@ Oni
1/4 dense>>> 1/2 dense.
Making a lower dense sounds better to expression the cool down on the calmest. Currently Spread is okay too.



01:34:315 - Add kat? There is enough with 3/2 break (imo) for intense part like Kiai :)
:arrow: It's a bit confusing to making the inverted rhythm to play
01:42:315 - ^
:arrow: Same.

[Futsuu]
:!: I think it's better if you follow claps, instead of bass drum (claps are most noticeable)
On section 00:58:690 - :arrow: Map the offbeat instead at 00:59:190 - , and like this on all stanzas (this is only IMO).
:arrow: uumm....00:15:065 - , 00:23:065 - , 00:31:190 - , 00:32:940 (6,7,8,9) - ....
I think bass following the most important if I put on d on the proper barlines.


[Kantan]
:!: Same suggestion as in Futsuu on 00:58:690 - section, I think it would be better if you swapped rhythm to offbeat notes, because claps are more noticeable musically this time. (Suggestion)
:arrow: Same as Futsuu.
That's all, call me back (¦3[___](¦3[___]
Thanks for mod.... but sorry no change :?
TKS

Raiden wrote:

la vida es una tómbola tom tom tom tom bola

[TKS]First time I mod a TKS map.
:!: Suggestion: fill the gaps on between the powerful beats 00:03:815 - 00:04:815 - etc.
:arrow: Explanation: pretty sure about what you mapped at the beginning, but I wonder if you would fill the gaps in between notes like 00:02:690 (16,17) - , they feel quite powerful and not mapping them looks like a big opportunity missed for me :(. If you decided to accept, do the same on all (00:06:815 - etc.) - its really meaningless. those gaps are working well for the flow from 00:08:690 -

:?: 00:15:627 - Add a don? K ddd K flows really good for me. Also, you would avoid the long 1/2 chain :) - no.
:?: 00:16:815 (140,141,142,143,144,145,146) - Lacks kat sound? Maybe do 00:16:940 (141,142,144,145) - kats? - why is that? kat sound would never work for the beats.

:?: 00:23:565 - Add kat? There is a faint instrument that plays on background and would help giving flow from 00:23:440 (177) - to the 1/6 dddk, as it would already have momentum from the hand movement, instead of being out of a sudden. - no.
00:25:565 - ^
00:27:565 - ^
00:29:565 - ^ every 2 secs ww

:arrow: 00:30:690 - Maybe the 1/2 chain remains for too long, add 1/4 notes somewhere? Just suggesting :?: - breaks the flow of map.

Amazing flow for the next part~

:!: The background scratch goes up until 00:50:690 - , so it would be better to map those two notes (00:50:502 - and 00:50:565 - , and leave 1/2 gap for finisher) - made empty intentionally to emphasize that finisher and changing flow.

:arrow: Kiai:
:?: 01:19:377 (138) - Change to a don? kddkk doesn't quite fit to me in the end, and the k_k at 01:19:440 (139,140) - would flow better if you changed to kdddk the previous pattern (IMO). - no.
01:37:377 (344) - Same as first suggestion.
That's all, call me back (¦3[___](¦3[___]
sorry but no changed. thank you for the mod raiden.
Nwolf
cause my 1-line posts get ignored (probably would've done that myself lel)

[TK'S Inner Oni]

I would like to hear explanations for why all your 1/6 are 1/6? None of the sounds is actually 1/6 and they also cause inconsistency in a quite consistent and solid map:

00:23:690 (178,179,180,181) - This sound goes until 00:24:065 - actually. It doesn't increase until here, but it last until here. Additionally you find this 00:31:690 - here and 00:32:940 - here. But those aren't 1/6. (Note this is the least disturbing 1/6 in the map because quite honestly in those two last spots it would have played awfully so it makes sense that it's not consistent).

01:17:190 (113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120) - 01:20:315 (150,151,152,153) - These are the other 1/6. These too are also just quarter notes that change their pitch but they are not even 1/4 (and yes the rest isn't neither). What happens in the kiai is, that spots like 01:19:940 - are not mapped as 1/6 though, for no reason. And actually /all/ voice samples should be mapped as 1/6 because nothing is different between them.

01:21:815 (167,168,169,170) - This 1/6 also should not exist as the song gives very clear 1/4 here, like in many other spots (01:16:315 - to name one xample). Same with 01:37:815 (350,351,352,353) - , that's clear 1/4, what is different about it from other 1/4 sounds in the song?


also more stuff below:

00:35:440 (287) - Could try kat on this to have the melody like 00:34:940 (283,284,286) - , I don't think the melody going down should change this to a don. Makes a clearer difference.
If applied, obviously change 00:37:440 (305) - 00:39:440 (324) - 00:41:440 (342) -
00:43:440 (363,364) - Same as above, but it's probably better to change these two notes instead of just the first one..

00:59:565 (6,7) - I think you could delete these notes so melody AND drums are emphasized better 00:59:440 (5,8) - here (01:01:565 - there is no note here either)
01:01:815 (17) - Also delete if done above
01:03:814 (28) - ^
01:10:815 (67,68,69) - Suddenly playing against melody ugh. 01:10:815 (67) - Flows pretty badly with the big note before and the hi-hat rhythm does not start here, so you could delete this. 01:11:440 - Maybe add a don here to follow the melody more?
01:38:190 (355,356,357,358,359,360,361) - You should REALLY consider toning this down a little bit because this is pretty calm compared to the rest of the kiai, yet it's a long 1/4! 01:38:252 (356,360,361) - I'd suggest to remove these three notes. You are pretty much forcing density here.

01:42:690 - Generally I find this stream okay, what disturbs me is that I think that there should be a few cuts (like 01:43:002 (415) - 01:43:502 (423) - 01:44:002 (431) - 01:44:502 (439) - ) so that the final part starting 01:44:690 - here gets more attention.


Otherwise nice map


Good luck
tasuke912
Hi.
少し気になったところとちょっとした提案だけ

[ General]
  1. 00:58:690 - Kantan~Oni: ここからのパートではキックなどの音が増え、曲全体の音量も上がっているのでhitsoundも多少上げた方が安全です。(55%~)
[ Kantan]
  1. 00:45:190 (5) - Remove. ここだけx---x-x-x---xxxのパターンから外れている上に配色も単色ではなくなっているので難易度面のギャップが目立ちます。
  2. 00:58:690 - 今のパターンでも音の拾い方は一貫しているので問題は無いのですが、静かなパートの割にリズムが取りにくいかなあ、という印象も少なからず。個人的には強拍のクラップを拾ってリズムの安定化を図りたいところ。
[ Futsuu]
  1. SV1.2. 1/2パターンの見た目密度がかなり高くて見づらいです。スクロール速度は上がりますが240程度のbpmなら1.2, 1.3でも許容範囲です。
  2. 00:58:690 - ここからのパートですがKantanとは違いこのdiffではクラップ音もフォローしているので(00:59:940 (3,4) - )、一貫性の為に00:59:065 (2) - の位置にあるノートをそれぞれ1/2右に移動+kに変更してみてください。音は変わりますが次のパートにある01:07:190 (20,25) - との統一感も多少上がります。
  3. 01:17:315 (11) - なんか音から外れている感じが,,, 1/2tick 右に移動?
  4. 01:25:315 (12) - ^
[ Muzukashii]
  1. SV1.3. Futsuu同様に1/2sがかなり詰まり気味で見づらいです。
  2. 00:30:315 (14) - キック音が無いのでkkkでも良い気がします。全体的に単色のtripletがかなり少ないし
  3. 00:47:315 (4,5,8,9) - 提案、主旋律合わせでdkにしてみてはどうでしょう。kd 4回繰り返すよりは面白味が出る気がします。
  4. 01:25:440 - ノートが無いのは仕様?1st kiai前半と同じように追加
  5. 01:44:565 (1) - 前の1/2ストリームがキック寄りなのでドゥルルルルルルの合わせてスピナー開始地点を1/2後ろに移動しても良いと思います。Oniと同じくスライダーでも良いかも
[ Oni]
  1. bpmも高めで譜面も上級者向きなのでOD6.0で良い気がします。
  2. 00:46:690 - dkkdkkdの方がよりキック音を目立たせられるような気がします。
  3. 01:16:315 (14,15,16,17,18) - kkk-k-d? 1st kiaiパートでddkに偏り気味なので。場所はここじゃなくても良いのでもう少しddk以外のtripletの割合を増やすことも考えてみてください。
[ Inner Oni]
  1. 今のOniのOD推奨値は6~7なので、BPM高い+かなり難しめのこの譜面には7.0を設定しても大丈夫です。
  2. 00:23:690 - 1/6の影響でここからのパートの密度が曲調に対してかなり高いです。1/6自体の問題は無いのですが、他のノート何個か間引いて密度のバランスを整えた方が良いかもしれません。
  3. 01:17:127 (112) - こっちは局所的に密度が上がっています。このノートを削除することで密度のバランスの調整が出来るほか、次の1/6を叩きやすくことにもつながります。1/6自体は上と同様に問題ありません
  4. 01:25:127 (202) - ^
nominatorは既に集まってますがもし必要があったら呼んでください
good luck~ :D
Topic Starter
JUDYDANNY

tasuke912 wrote:

Hi.
少し気になったところとちょっとした提案だけ

[ General]
  1. 00:58:690 - Kantan~Oni: ここからのパートではキックなどの音が増え、曲全体の音量も上がっているのでhitsoundも多少上げた方が安全です。(55%~)
    :arrow: fixed 55%.
[ Kantan]
  1. 00:45:190 (5) - Remove. ここだけx---x-x-x---xxxのパターンから外れている上に配色も単色ではなくなっているので難易度面のギャップが目立ちます。
    :arrow: fixed.
  2. 00:58:690 - 今のパターンでも音の拾い方は一貫しているので問題は無いのですが、静かなパートの割にリズムが取りにくいかなあ、という印象も少なからず。個人的には強拍のクラップを拾ってリズムの安定化を図りたいところ。
    :arrow: 単純にSRの問題... 1.51以上keepでこれ以上に綺麗な形思いつきません no change.
[ Futsuu]
  1. SV1.2. 1/2パターンの見た目密度がかなり高くて見づらいです。スクロール速度は上がりますが240程度のbpmなら1.2, 1.3でも許容範囲です。
    :arrow: 1.1https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4818669
    1.2https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4818662
    2/1の部分も多いから叩いたときに見える音がまだ後ろの方にいるので見た目の速度差がかなり出ちゃうと思います。keepで

  2. 00:58:690 - ここからのパートですがKantanとは違いこのdiffではクラップ音もフォローしているので(00:59:940 (3,4) - )、一貫性の為に00:59:065 (2) - の位置にあるノートをそれぞれ1/2右に移動+kに変更してみてください。音は変わりますが次のパートにある01:07:190 (20,25) - との統一感も多少上がります。
    :arrow: 00:23:190 - ここと同じでは...
  3. 01:17:315 (11) - なんか音から外れている感じが,,, 1/2tick 右に移動?
    :arrow: うーん... no change.
  4. 01:25:315 (12) - ^ :arrow: ^
[ Muzukashii]
  1. SV1.3. Futsuu同様に1/2sがかなり詰まり気味で見づらいです。 :arrow: Muzuはfixed.
  2. 00:30:315 (14) - キック音が無いのでkkkでも良い気がします。全体的に単色のtripletがかなり少ないし :arrow: ok
  3. 00:47:315 (4,5,8,9) - 提案、主旋律合わせでdkにしてみてはどうでしょう。kd 4回繰り返すよりは面白味が出る気がします。 :arrow: ok, I'll try them.
  4. 01:25:440 - ノートが無いのは仕様?1st kiai前半と同じように追加 :arrow:仕様です、たぶんどっかのミスです。fixed.
  5. 01:44:565 (1) - 前の1/2ストリームがキック寄りなのでドゥルルルルルルの合わせてスピナー開始地点を1/2後ろに移動しても良いと思います。Oniと同じくスライダーでも良いかも :arrow: 迷いましたが 変えてみます、手前のddkkddkをddkkdkdに変えました。
[ Oni]
  1. bpmも高めで譜面も上級者向きなのでOD6.0で良い気がします。 :arrow: keepで
  2. 00:46:690 - dkkdkkdの方がよりキック音を目立たせられるような気がします。 :arrow: changed.
  3. 01:16:315 (14,15,16,17,18) - kkk-k-d? 1st kiaiパートでddkに偏り気味なので。場所はここじゃなくても良いのでもう少しddk以外のtripletの割合を増やすことも考えてみてください。 :arrow: changed some. kkkではなくkkdに変えました。

    一応捕捉で
    全体的にddk寄りなのは意図的で、あえてそこをベースに組み込むという仕様でした。加えてddkddkの部分もdkkdkkの提案は同様に仕様でしたが、、、多少の変化を混ぜてもよさげなので悪目立ちしない程度にddk系を外して取り入れることにしました Thanks~.
nominatorは既に集まってますがもし必要があったら呼んでください
good luck~ :D
Thanks tasuke~ (¦3[___]
TKS

Nwolf wrote:

cause my 1-line posts get ignored (probably would've done that myself lel)

[TK'S Inner Oni]

I would like to hear explanations for why all your 1/6 are 1/6? None of the sounds is actually 1/6 and they also cause inconsistency in a quite consistent and solid map:

00:23:690 (178,179,180,181) - This sound goes until 00:24:065 - actually. It doesn't increase until here, but it last until here. Additionally you find this 00:31:690 - here and 00:32:940 - here. But those aren't 1/6. (Note this is the least disturbing 1/6 in the map because quite honestly in those two last spots it would have played awfully so it makes sense that it's not consistent). - when i extend 1/6 until 00:24:065 - it would be bad absolutely, also the flow has changed from 00:30:690 - so i never think its not consistent even though those arent 1/6 patterns.

01:17:190 (113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120) - 01:20:315 (150,151,152,153) - These are the other 1/6. These too are also just quarter notes that change their pitch but they are not even 1/4 (and yes the rest isn't neither). What happens in the kiai is, that spots like 01:19:940 - are not mapped as 1/6 though, for no reason. And actually /all/ voice samples should be mapped as 1/6 because nothing is different between them. - your suggestion seems subjective. the patterns are working well and keeping consistency of not bad level. not allowed to make a variation?

01:21:815 (167,168,169,170) - This 1/6 also should not exist as the song gives very clear 1/4 here, like in many other spots (01:16:315 - to name one xample). Same with 01:37:815 (350,351,352,353) - , that's clear 1/4, what is different about it from other 1/4 sounds in the song? - because it just plays better. an example of recent map : https://osu.ppy.sh/b/742085 this Inner Oni has almost similar patten in 00:56:735 - , the pattern seems perfectly legit.


also more stuff below:

00:35:440 (287) - Could try kat on this to have the melody like 00:34:940 (283,284,286) - , I don't think the melody going down should change this to a don. Makes a clearer difference. - clearly sounds lower than 00:35:065 (284) - . i think the melody going down should change this to a don. more think mapper's intention.
If applied, obviously change 00:37:440 (305) - 00:39:440 (324) - 00:41:440 (342) -
00:43:440 (363,364) - Same as above, but it's probably better to change these two notes instead of just the first one..

00:59:565 (6,7) - I think you could delete these notes so melody AND drums are emphasized better 00:59:440 (5,8) - here (01:01:565 - there is no note here either)
01:01:815 (17) - Also delete if done above
01:03:814 (28) - ^
01:10:815 (67,68,69) - Suddenly playing against melody ugh. 01:10:815 (67) - Flows pretty badly with the big note before and the hi-hat rhythm does not start here, so you could delete this. 01:11:440 - Maybe add a don here to follow the melody more?
01:38:190 (355,356,357,358,359,360,361) - You should REALLY consider toning this down a little bit because this is pretty calm compared to the rest of the kiai, yet it's a long 1/4! 01:38:252 (356,360,361) - I'd suggest to remove these three notes. You are pretty much forcing density here.

01:42:690 - Generally I find this stream okay, what disturbs me is that I think that there should be a few cuts (like 01:43:002 (415) - 01:43:502 (423) - 01:44:002 (431) - 01:44:502 (439) - ) so that the final part starting 01:44:690 - here gets more attention.


Otherwise nice map


Good luck
tired of typing.
fixed only 01:38:190 - . thanks.
TKS

tasuke912 wrote:

Hi.
少し気になったところとちょっとした提案だけ
[ Inner Oni]
  1. 今のOniのOD推奨値は6~7なので、BPM高い+かなり難しめのこの譜面には7.0を設定しても大丈夫です。
  2. 00:23:690 - 1/6の影響でここからのパートの密度が曲調に対してかなり高いです。1/6自体の問題は無いのですが、他のノート何個か間引いて密度のバランスを整えた方が良いかもしれません。 - それぞれの音の主張が激しいので迷いましたが5pletsを解消しました。
  3. 01:17:127 (112) - こっちは局所的に密度が上がっています。このノートを削除することで密度のバランスの調整が出来るほか、次の1/6を叩きやすくことにもつながります。1/6自体は上と同様に問題ありません - ゴリ押し巻が否めなかったので消して次のパートの1/6の色を少しかえました
  4. 01:25:127 (202) - ^
nominatorは既に集まってますがもし必要があったら呼んでください
good luck~ :D
ありがとうございました。
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/263 ... Oni%5D.rar
Topic Starter
JUDYDANNY
Updated~(¦3[___]
Raiden
Minimal suggestion:

Muzukashii: 00:14:065 (19) - can you move this to 00:14:315 - for better representation of melody?
00:54:440 - I think it wouldnt hurt to fill...? (IDK if I already suggested)
01:44:440 (14) - move to 01:44:565 - for melody?

Oni: 00:12:127 - maybe fill this gap and delete 00:12:752 (18) - for a break later? so you focus more on the voice "rrrra rrrra"
01:34:315 - fill gap with k for melody?
01:42:315 - ^

call me again
Topic Starter
JUDYDANNY

Raiden wrote:

Minimal suggestion:

Muzukashii: 00:14:065 (19) - can you move this to 00:14:315 - for better representation of melody?
:arrow: moved and 00:13:690 (17,18,19,20) - changed to d-k-dk
00:54:440 - I think it wouldnt hurt to fill...? (IDK if I already suggested)
:arrow: uumm....nope. The reason is already mentioned.
01:44:440 (14) - move to 01:44:565 - for melody?
:arrow: add 44:565 instead.

Oni: 00:12:127 - maybe fill this gap and delete 00:12:752 (18) - for a break later? so you focus more on the voice "rrrra rrrra"
:arrow: I think its better to keep now, for kind to follow the bass drums and synthesizer.
01:34:315 - fill gap with k for melody?
:arrow: I prefer to following drums part mainly.w.
01:42:315 - ^
:arrow: ^.

call me again
Raiden
Nominated.
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Raiden wrote:

Nominated.
when I come to this post,

It is Pending Beatmap, after 1 mins, Ranked/Approved....


nice mapset
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omededou!!
It ranked after i give the star lol
Groove Coaster's second ranked song diff hype!
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