saradisk - 168 - 401 · forum

Ovoui

Joined January 2013

Ovoui 2016-02-07T19:26:40+00:00

Taeyang wrote:
Hi Taeyang!

Ovoui's Insane
00:00:073 (1) - add finish? there is already a finish here
00:00:073 (1,2,3) - use same DS 00:02:473 (1,2,3) - like here fixed
00:08:473 (7) - NC? just use one downbeat NC term done
00:17:173 - remove didn't used greenline done
00:27:673 (1,2,3) - avoid jump stream pattern because that's EX pattern too hard that's not a stream, it's a triplet. I don't think i'ts too hard because i make a lot of pattern with the same spacing before this moment.
00:37:273 (3) - NC 00:27:673 (1) - like here

good luck~!

ty ~

Neoskylove wrote:
Hi Neoskylove

[ovoui's insane]
00:05:398 (2,4) - stack error i think you failed your copy/paste
00:26:473 (1,2) - this reverse slider is hard to read. http://puu.sh/mWrvQ/8b7778a88e.jpg this is recommand. it's not hard at all to read imo! It follows well the song imo and the ar9 make it easy to read
00:36:073 (1,2) - ^
00:45:673 (1,2) - ^
00:55:273 (1,2) - ^
01:01:873 (8,1) - This overlap looks bad. fixed
01:13:423 (7) - stack error? fixed

Thanks for the mod!

CrypticMech wrote:
Hi CrypticMech

[Ovoui's Insane]
00:03:223 (4,5,6,1) - Having to change direction (6>1) like that from a straight line jump just plays really awkwardly. why not, but can you give me a suggestion ? i really don't know what to do

thank you o/

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Bonsai

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Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-02-07T20:34:02+00:00

Ahoy, from m4m'ing

General

01:07:273 - I'm pretty sure this is only 100BPM from here on, dunno whether or not it needs to be correct for rank but I just wanted to point it out ^^
Maybe raise the offset by +2ms, I sounds a bit too early in the outro and I was noticably late when playing with HalfTime too

Easy

This mapset needs at least 1 Easy/Normal diff. jk, SV is stronk ^^
tbh I think the AR might be too low considering the BPM and stacks like 00:11:173 (3,1) and 01:03:673 (2,1) - You can potentially see 4/1 ahead which is a bit too much / too dense I think
00:11:173 (3,4) - This might be kinda weird to play, adding to the stack it might confuse the beginners too
01:01:573 (3,2) - Heil stacking!
01:07:273 - Maybe lower the SV from here on, to represent that the BPM is halfed here? This isn't forbidden in Easy y'know

Normal

00:25:723 (2,3,4,1) - Using stacked and spaced 1/1s right after another might be too confusing, dunno, you didn't use it anywhere else either so I'd recommend changing that one too - I don't see any particular reason to stack (4,1) anyways, I'd rather stack (3,4) and unstack those, might be a bit easier to read too maybe
00:49:573 (5,6) - I feel like the note that (5) ends on is already a part of the vocal pattern of (6), so mapping it like this feels kinda weird to me
Again suggesting to lower SV at 01:07:273
All these 3/2-sliders in the outro may feel nice but that rhythm is not given in the song at all, there is no strong note at 01:07:723 - 01:10:123 - 01:12:523 - 01:14:923 to justify those, and tbh extending them to 2/1 feels more appropriate anyways imo since this is the outro, and half-BPM so it should be calmer to play

Hard

00:02:473 (1,2) and 00:07:273 (1,2) - The 3/4-gap feels very unnatural to play when it's after a tail, and especially since 00:00:073 (1) and 00:04:873 (1) have been mapped as 1/1 it's unexpected too as they are exactly the same, so I'd recommend changing those to 1/1 too, or map something on that empty white tick too
00:05:923 (4,5,6) - I don't really see what those are mapped too, there's isn't anything that is off-beat or syncopated, and you didn't map anything like this anywhere else in the whole diff (except the outro where the offbeat-sliders are supported by the vocals)
00:13:273 (5,7) - Uuuh I don't think perfectly stacking them 1/1s is good, and you didn't even perfectly stack 3/2s like 00:16:123 (2,4) so I don't see why you did it here. Also, 00:26:773 (2,4) are 3/2 too, so keep it consistent please! I don't know how sliders behave exactly now with the fae-out, so 00:34:273 (3,5) and 00:51:073 (3,5) might count as more than 3/2
00:29:098 (2) - All sliders like this one have a way stronger sound on their tail than on their head, so those play really bad / unnatural, plus 1/4-rhythms haven't been introduced yet (except triplets ofc) so yeah. Even I had trouble playing this bc it's so weird lol, pleeaase change all of those
01:10:273 (3,4,5) - Ah, seems like you don't have stacking viewed in the editor, that would explain the random perfect stacks - Here, the stack shifts the first circle exactly in the direction of the slider, causing them to overlap which isn't very pleasing, please fix that - Same with 01:12:973 (3,4,5) -, and 01:15:673 (5,6,7) could use some more space too
01:12:373 (1) - Why the NC?
Seems kinda weird / imbalanced that there's only a single clickable triplet in the whole diff, at 00:09:523 (3,4,1) -, I'd say either remove that one or put more of them into the map, it's just imbalanced for no apparent reason

Insane

00:57:073 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Whoa lol, the Hard had only a single clickable triplet (and that might be deleted since it's imbalanced), and then in the next diff a stream of 9? Definitely seems to much, and the starrating drops by 0,09* too if you delete that one, soo yeah, pls nerf that one
00:15:673 (1,2,3) - Even without slider-leniency, those are basically spaced the same as 00:16:873 (1,2,3,4) -, adding slider-leniency to it they are spaced way too low for which I see no reason o: A consequence of that is 00:16:273 (3,1) not stacking lol
00:16:873 (1,2,3,4) - Why are those actually spaced way more than 00:26:473 (1,2,3,4) or 00:45:673 (1,2,3,4) or 00:55:273 (1,2,3,4) etc. anyways?
00:18:373 (3) - I think you could map this as a double in an Insane, feels way better to play
00:21:373 (5,6,1,2,3) - I kinda miss a differentiation between those two combos, at (5,6) the vocals are kinda special and the background beats are completely paused, but then it just flows nicely into the next combo which doesn't feel appropriate at all - Stacking (5,6) would fit very well imo, but yeah, just do anything you want as long as it differentiates between those combos better
00:38:923 (3) - Just like in Normal, all of these 3/4-sliders are just invented rhythm, not provided by the song, and feel very weird when they first occur
00:45:073 (5,6,7) - Pretty high spacing, also compared to 00:40:273 (4,5,6) -, and 00:45:373 (7,1) looks kinda cramped in comparision to that

Ovoui's Insane

00:03:823 (2,3,4) - Uuuh adding that circle in-between makes this incredibly stupid to play and read - The player expects to click the downbeat at 00:04:273 since that is a very important note, additionally those are extremely high spaced, even higher than for example 00:02:473 (1,2,3) or 00:04:873 (1,2,3) for some reason - All in all that is just extremely unexpected, weird and hard to play, pleeaase re-do all those patterns, they are the most difficult things in the whole diff
00:40:573 (7) - Absolutely everything halts at 00:40:648 so making this a slider doesn't fit at all (theoretically making it 1/4 would fit since the sound of the drum-kick is that long but that would be stupid too lol)
00:40:798 (8) - That doesn't seem right at all, there is no actual note here, the vocals have a barely audible change of pitch but that doesn't happen on that tick at all, and it doesn't fit to the break that the background beats have at all
01:11:023 (7,8) - That spacing is way too big lol, I mean that's almost the same as a 1/1-gap
01:15:823 (7,8) - This is really bad to play but I can't really explain why : \

Enozho's Extra

00:22:423 (5) - I don't see the reason for this one to be off-beat, the vocals have a very strong note on the tail but very weak on the head - That applies to a lot of sliders until the Kiai ( 00:24:823 (5) - 00:29:623 (5) - 00:32:023 (5) - 00:34:423 (5) -), they all play very weird as nothing has that rhythm, the vocals have a 3/2-3/2-2/2-rhythm Also, 00:19:723 (4,5) is the only time where you didn't map it like that, so yeah, at least make it consistent either way, but I highly advise to change those offbeat-sliders, they make nice patterns and all but the patterns don't fit to the song bc of the rhythm
00:37:573 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Maybe differentiate a bit between the first four notes and the rest? Right now there isn't even the direction change there, and the notes that start on (5) are so strong they definitively deserve to be differentiated!
00:38:773 (3,4) - All spacings like this one seem a bit too low bc of slider-leniency, the next note isn't emphasized at all, I'd raise them all : \ This section seems cramped anyways since there is so much overlapping although they are far away in the timeline, raising the spacing would help that too

Torpedo

00:37:573 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Same as in Extra, differentiate at (5) please
00:55:273 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - I don't see the system of at which notes you make the turns, at (6) it's a very weak beat being the turning point, at (11) the turning point is a strong beat and (16) is weak again - Both ways of when-to-turn are good, but they shouldn't be mixed up, that's pretty confusing! (I see in the editor that it's a triangle but that's not that noticable in-game anyways, just unnecessarily confusing, I'd say make the second turn on (10) or (12), that way it's consistent with (16) being a turning point instead of (1) )
00:57:073 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Again I'd suggest differentiating at (5) as that is an extremely prominent beat there
Nothing more to say, on Half-Time it played very nicely (can't play it nomod, I'm weak ;_;), good job!

Good luck!

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Ovoui

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Ovoui 2016-02-07T22:29:00+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
Ovoui's Insane
00:03:823 (2,3,4) - Uuuh adding that circle in-between makes this incredibly stupid to play and read - The player expects to click the downbeat at 00:04:273 since that is a very important note, additionally those are extremely high spaced, even higher than for example 00:02:473 (1,2,3) or 00:04:873 (1,2,3) for some reason - All in all that is just extremely unexpected, weird and hard to play, pleeaase re-do all those patterns, they are the most difficult things in the whole diff it's ok, it's ar9, it's easy to read + this diff is almost a 5* diff so it's for people who have some reading skills
00:40:573 (7) - Absolutely everything halts at 00:40:648 so making this a slider doesn't fit at all (theoretically making it 1/4 would fit since the sound of the drum-kick is that long but that would be stupid too lol) fixed
00:40:798 (8) - That doesn't seem right at all, there is no actual note here, the vocals have a barely audible change of pitch but that doesn't happen on that tick at all, and it doesn't fit to the break that the background beats have at all fixed
01:11:023 (7,8) - That spacing is way too big lol, I mean that's almost the same as a 1/1-gap i think a jump here fits well
01:15:823 (7,8) - This is really bad to play but I can't really explain why : \ it's ok imo

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Cryptic

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Cryptic 2016-02-07T22:57:44+00:00

Ovoui wrote:
CrypticMech wrote:
Hi CrypticMech

[Ovoui's Insane]
00:03:223 (4,5,6,1) - Having to change direction (6>1) like that from a straight line jump just plays really awkwardly. why not, but can you give me a suggestion ? i really don't know what to do
thank you o/

Maybe something like this. (I'm using 2.0 DS, 00:03:523 (6) - is on the repeat of 00:02:473 (1) - and 00:03:673 (1) - is on the beginning of 00:04:423 (4) - . Hope this helps.

Nozhomi

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Topic Starter

Nozhomi 2016-02-09T01:58:18+00:00

CrypticMech wrote:
Tired and from #modreq

[Insane]
00:03:373 (6) - Blanket the 5 better. - Was not blanket on purpose.
00:14:923 (3) - Reposition the 3 to better make a triangle with 2 and 4. - Fix
[Enozho's Extra]
00:33:073 (1,2,3,4,5) - Inconsistent DS - Fix
[Torpedo]
00:08:773 (2,3,4,5,6) - Conceptually, I get the difference in spacing, but in execution it looks kind of shotty. Perhaps make the transition a bit more gradual near the end? - Fix
00:09:373 (7,8,9,10,1) - ^ - Fix
Sorry I didn't find more, it looks pretty close to ready for me ;;

Bonsai wrote:
Ahoy, from m4m'ing

General
01:07:273 - I'm pretty sure this is only 100BPM from here on, dunno whether or not it needs to be correct for rank but I just wanted to point it out ^^ - Probably, but not necessairy at all, and now there is a SV down on this part everywhere on my diffs so it's k.
Maybe raise the offset by +2ms, I sounds a bit too early in the outro and I was noticably late when playing with HalfTime too - Fix
Easy
This mapset needs at least 1 Easy/Normal diff. jk, SV is stronk ^^ - Won't touch it tho, still thinking it's fine, and really don't want to redo all of it when it works.
tbh I think the AR might be too low considering the BPM and stacks like 00:11:173 (3,1) and 01:03:673 (2,1) - You can potentially see 4/1 ahead which is a bit too much / too dense I think - AR3.5
00:11:173 (3,4) - This might be kinda weird to play, adding to the stack it might confuse the beginners too - Combo color is enough to read it easiely.
01:01:573 (3,2) - Heil stacking! - Fix
01:07:273 - Maybe lower the SV from here on, to represent that the BPM is halfed here? This isn't forbidden in Easy y'know - Fix and redo it.
Normal
00:25:723 (2,3,4,1) - Using stacked and spaced 1/1s right after another might be too confusing, dunno, you didn't use it anywhere else either so I'd recommend changing that one too - I don't see any particular reason to stack (4,1) anyways, I'd rather stack (3,4) and unstack those, might be a bit easier to read too maybe - Fix

00:49:573 (5,6) - I feel like the note that (5) ends on is already a part of the vocal pattern of (6), so mapping it like this feels kinda weird to me - Vocal yes, but reverse is definitly on a stronger and different part of it.
Again suggesting to lower SV at 01:07:273 - Fix and redo.
All these 3/2-sliders in the outro may feel nice but that rhythm is not given in the song at all, there is no strong note at 01:07:723 - 01:10:123 - 01:12:523 - 01:14:923 to justify those, and tbh extending them to 2/1 feels more appropriate anyways imo since this is the outro, and half-BPM so it should be calmer to play - Fix but was a little sad to use same rhythm than Easy for them.
Insane
00:57:073 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Whoa lol, the Hard had only a single clickable triplet (and that might be deleted since it's imbalanced), and then in the next diff a stream of 9? Definitely seems to much, and the starrating drops by 0,09* too if you delete that one, soo yeah, pls nerf that one - Okok fixed ;w;
00:15:673 (1,2,3) - Even without slider-leniency, those are basically spaced the same as 00:16:873 (1,2,3,4) -, adding slider-leniency to it they are spaced way too low for which I see no reason o: A consequence of that is 00:16:273 (3,1) not stacking lol - Fix
00:16:873 (1,2,3,4) - Why are those actually spaced way more than 00:26:473 (1,2,3,4) or 00:45:673 (1,2,3,4) or 00:55:273 (1,2,3,4) etc. anyways? - Simply because they're here head to head when other are on the side.
00:18:373 (3) - I think you could map this as a double in an Insane, feels way better to play - Never ! This is too hard and don't like it.
00:21:373 (5,6,1,2,3) - I kinda miss a differentiation between those two combos, at (5,6) the vocals are kinda special and the background beats are completely paused, but then it just flows nicely into the next combo which doesn't feel appropriate at all - Stacking (5,6) would fit very well imo, but yeah, just do anything you want as long as it differentiates between those combos better - Fix pattern ;w;
00:38:923 (3) - Just like in Normal, all of these 3/4-sliders are just invented rhythm, not provided by the song, and feel very weird when they first occur - An other would be too hard, and works with music imo.
00:45:073 (5,6,7) - Pretty high spacing, also compared to 00:40:273 (4,5,6) -, and 00:45:373 (7,1) looks kinda cramped in comparision to that - That's k, just spaced a little from reverse.
Enozho's Extra
00:22:423 (5) - I don't see the reason for this one to be off-beat, the vocals have a very strong note on the tail but very weak on the head - That applies to a lot of sliders until the Kiai ( 00:24:823 (5) - 00:29:623 (5) - 00:32:023 (5) - 00:34:423 (5) -), they all play very weird as nothing has that rhythm, the vocals have a 3/2-3/2-2/2-rhythm Also, 00:19:723 (4,5) is the only time where you didn't map it like that, so yeah, at least make it consistent either way, but I highly advise to change those offbeat-sliders, they make nice patterns and all but the patterns don't fit to the song bc of the rhythm - Sry I'll let this like that, because it works with vocals, and won't kill pattern either :c
00:37:573 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Maybe differentiate a bit between the first four notes and the rest? Right now there isn't even the direction change there, and the notes that start on (5) are so strong they definitively deserve to be differentiated! - I hate that lol.
00:38:773 (3,4) - All spacings like this one seem a bit too low bc of slider-leniency, the next note isn't emphasized at all, I'd raise them all : \ This section seems cramped anyways since there is so much overlapping although they are far away in the timeline, raising the spacing would help that too - Enon's part so will see with him.
Torpedo
00:37:573 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Same as in Extra, differentiate at (5) please - Same as Extra.
00:55:273 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - I don't see the system of at which notes you make the turns, at (6) it's a very weak beat being the turning point, at (11) the turning point is a strong beat and (16) is weak again - Both ways of when-to-turn are good, but they shouldn't be mixed up, that's pretty confusing! (I see in the editor that it's a triangle but that's not that noticable in-game anyways, just unnecessarily confusing, I'd say make the second turn on (10) or (12), that way it's consistent with (16) being a turning point instead of (1) ) - Want to keep this perfect triangle.
00:57:073 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Again I'd suggest differentiating at (5) as that is an extremely prominent beat there - Same as Extra.
Nothing more to say, on Half-Time it played very nicely (can't play it nomod, I'm weak ;_;), good job! - Thx ><
Good luck!

Edit: My 100th kudosu, wheeeeeeeeeeeeee! AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Thx guys :3
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~~EDIT : Aia is remapping 1st half of her diff due to self quality expectation. Don't mod this diff until it's done thx !~~ OK GOOD NOW !

Ovoui

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Ovoui 2016-02-10T16:09:09+00:00

CrypticMech wrote:
Maybe something like this. (I'm using 2.0 DS, 00:03:523 (6) - is on the repeat of 00:02:473 (1) - and 00:03:673 (1) - is on the beginning of 00:04:423 (4) - . Hope this helps. nice idea i made kinda the same pattern but i use 1.5 spacing

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Okoratu

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Okoratu 2016-02-10T18:41:53+00:00

blablabla we irc'd

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2016-02-10T19:37:29+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
blablabla we irc'd

le irc avec Oko

2016-02-10 18:12 Okoratu: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/803418 saradisk - 168 - 401 [Torpedo]]
2016-02-10 18:12 Okoratu: do i need like
2016-02-10 18:12 Okoratu: gorilla hands to accu this or what
2016-02-10 18:12 Nozhomi: Rumia- did a 96% if I remember
2016-02-10 18:13 Nozhomi: still have screen of the differents tries
2016-02-10 18:13 Okoratu: i don't like your hitnormal
2016-02-10 18:13 Okoratu: like for most thingsi t just seems unfitting
2016-02-10 18:14 Okoratu: and that you layer things like 00:37:575 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - into the same stream
2016-02-10 18:14 Okoratu: like
2016-02-10 18:15 Okoratu: 00:37:575 (1,2,3,4,5) - have drums 00:37:950 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - have melody
2016-02-10 18:15 Nozhomi: I don't have anything elso who could fit hitnormal :/
2016-02-10 18:15 Okoratu: 2 completely different things mashed together into one chain of circles
2016-02-10 18:16 Okoratu: 00:56:775 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - is same thing but slightly different
2016-02-10 18:17 Nozhomi: it that a real problem ? For me it's just following 1/4 and I have when streams are separated and I don't the idea to increase spacing
2016-02-10 18:18 Okoratu: you didn't even get what i was trying to say
2016-02-10 18:18 Okoratu: can you not do continuous 1/4 by combining drums and melody into huge chains of 1/4 :x
2016-02-10 18:19 Nozhomi: so you want me to do kick sliders or 2 differents streams ?
2016-02-10 18:21 Okoratu: example woudl be something like http://puu.sh/n2Vzy/816279717f.jpg
2016-02-10 18:22 Nozhomi: o
2016-02-10 18:22 Nozhomi: I see
2016-02-10 18:22 Okoratu: gives a small rest and separates 2 different kinds of stream
2016-02-10 18:24 Okoratu: some of your triplets have their stacks broken btw
2016-02-10 18:24 Nozhomi: like ?
2016-02-10 18:24 Okoratu: 00:00:525 (3,4,5) -
2016-02-10 18:24 Okoratu: 00:02:175 (8,9,1) -
2016-02-10 18:25 Okoratu: 00:08:400 (9,1) -
2016-02-10 18:26 Nozhomi: I like how triplet broken themselves
2016-02-10 18:26 Nozhomi: orz
2016-02-10 18:26 Okoratu: 00:15:675 (1,7,1) - this looks a bit dumb ingame, how about moving 00:18:675 (7,1,2,3,4,1) - by 4x 4y to have 00:18:375 (3,4,5,6,7) - as a straight line
2016-02-10 18:26 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/n2VRZ/18a1d5998b.jpg -> http://puu.sh/n2VSO/01945a5015.jpg
2016-02-10 18:27 Okoratu: i'd recommend doing the same kind of 1/4 short sliders instead of doublets in the kiai
2016-02-10 18:28 Nozhomi: you mean 00:41:325 (4,5) - ?
2016-02-10 18:28 Okoratu: like 00:31:725 (5,6) - is far easier to comprehend than playing doublets doublet doublet triplet triplet circle 5plet doublet doublet
2016-02-10 18:29 Okoratu: and if you simplify doublets you can do bigger spaced streams for 00:42:675 (1,2,3) - which would be cool
2016-02-10 18:29 Nozhomi: so why I put doublets in kiai :
2016-02-10 18:30 Okoratu: idk i think they play like ass
2016-02-10 18:30 Nozhomi: simply because I put 1/4 sliders before. It's the same rhythm but harder because it's the highest diff of the set
2016-02-10 18:30 Nozhomi: I can try but think it will just be zzz
2016-02-10 18:30 Okoratu: like if that was taiko i'd see doublets all over the place but
2016-02-10 18:30 Okoratu: i really think spamming doublets and triplets with only circles in quick succession will make ppl hate you lol
2016-02-10 18:31 Nozhomi: well they already hate me lol
2016-02-10 18:31 Nozhomi: will do some test for this tho
2016-02-10 18:32 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/n2Wdo/e4e263c48c.jpg
2016-02-10 18:32 Okoratu: ew
2016-02-10 18:33 Okoratu: you seemed to care a lot about how your triplets stack so
2016-02-10 18:33 Okoratu: 01:00:975 (8,5,6,7) -
2016-02-10 18:33 Okoratu: 01:06:675 (3,6,7,1) -
2016-02-10 18:36 Nozhomi: sry I'm still trying with 00:18:975 (1,2,3,4,1) - lol
2016-02-10 18:37 Nozhomi: because k it solve it for 00:18:375 (3,4,5,6,7) - but destroy 2nd one
2016-02-10 18:41 Okoratu: do you still want taikos XD
2016-02-10 18:42 Nozhomi: no
2016-02-10 18:42 Nozhomi: lel
2016-02-10 18:42 Okoratu: sad
2016-02-10 18:42 Nozhomi: you wanted to do taiko really ? cmon
2016-02-10 18:42 Nozhomi: it's really late lol
2016-02-10 18:43 Okoratu: i just found an intuitive way to map this song
2016-02-10 18:43 Okoratu: :d:d
2016-02-10 18:45 Nozhomi: :c
2016-02-10 18:45 Nozhomi: well fixed these stupid stacks
2016-02-10 18:52 Okoratu: wtf are the 1/8 in extra
2016-02-10 18:53 Nozhomi: 00:38:475 - from this point, it's Enon part
2016-02-10 18:53 Nozhomi: don't blame me
2016-02-10 18:53 Okoratu: kill enon's 1/8
2016-02-10 18:53 Okoratu: and 01:11:625 (1) -
2016-02-10 18:54 Okoratu: 00:08:775 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - same as what i talked about in torpedo
2016-02-10 18:54 Okoratu: 00:19:275 (1,2,3,5) - looks a bit dumb if your skin is half-transparent
2016-02-10 18:55 Okoratu: 00:30:375 (4,5) - i don't think a jump this big is warranted by the song
2016-02-10 18:57 Okoratu: why does she say "bathing is nice"
2016-02-10 18:57 Okoratu: the whole time
2016-02-10 18:59 Nozhomi: how I could know ??? XD
2016-02-10 18:59 Nozhomi: I didn't play the game lol
2016-02-10 18:59 Nozhomi: it's some of her quotes
2016-02-10 19:01 Okoratu: tell aia to not mix different length repeat sliders
2016-02-10 19:02 Okoratu: like she has http://puu.sh/n2Y53/24678ea5d9.jpg
2016-02-10 19:02 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/n2Y6A/fe1435eb96.jpg
2016-02-10 19:02 Okoratu: noone who just comes from a normal will be able to comprehend how long to hold each
2016-02-10 19:02 Nozhomi: k
2016-02-10 19:03 Okoratu: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/841828 Last Note. feat.mirin - Fake out [Seikatu's Hyper]]
2016-02-10 19:03 Okoratu: had the same issue
2016-02-10 19:03 Nozhomi: oh
2016-02-10 19:03 Okoratu: and we just made all repeat sliders the same length
2016-02-10 19:03 Okoratu: so whenever you see a repeat slider there it'll be the same thing and that actually made the diff wayy more intuitive
2016-02-10 19:04 Okoratu: and doublecheck her comboing with her
2016-02-10 19:05 Nozhomi: okay~
2016-02-10 19:05 Okoratu: can you do less spacing for 00:16:875 (1,2,3,4,1) - in insane
2016-02-10 19:05 Okoratu: that way it's more obvious that these are 1/4
2016-02-10 19:06 Okoratu: because other sliders look similar in terms of spacing but are 1/2 from each other
2016-02-10 19:06 Okoratu: 00:57:075 (1,2) - pls
2016-02-10 19:06 Okoratu: pls
2016-02-10 19:06 Okoratu: pl s
2016-02-10 19:06 Nozhomi: pls 2s
2016-02-10 19:07 Nozhomi: for 00:16:875 (1) - 
2016-02-10 19:07 Nozhomi: my problem is
2016-02-10 19:07 Nozhomi: do I have to kill stacks for the sake of spacing or do you have an idea in mind ?
2016-02-10 19:10 Okoratu: somethin like http://puu.sh/n2YyJ/d880bf5c6f.jpg
2016-02-10 19:10 Nozhomi: uh
2016-02-10 19:10 Nozhomi: rip aesthetic
2016-02-10 19:11 Nozhomi: also where the fk start 00:16:875 (1) - ?
2016-02-10 19:11 Nozhomi: did you stack it with 00:16:725 (5) - ?
2016-02-10 19:12 Okoratu: i didn't move it from where it is now
2016-02-10 19:13 Nozhomi: o_o
2016-02-10 19:16 Nozhomi: so I guess
2016-02-10 19:16 Okoratu: use AR 6 in normal, really lol.
2016-02-10 19:16 Nozhomi: I have to rearange this 00:18:075 (1,2,3,4) - 
2016-02-10 19:17 Okoratu: having to read like 6 objects at a time is not something a normal player can do easily
2016-02-10 19:19 Okoratu: easy
2016-02-10 19:19 Okoratu: 01:15:975 (2,3) -
2016-02-10 19:19 Okoratu: wtat hte fuck happened
2016-02-10 19:19 Okoratu: 00:10:875 (2,3,4,1) - seems super forced
2016-02-10 19:20 Nozhomi: k lol spacing rip
2016-02-10 19:20 Okoratu: can you avoid 1/2 repeat sliders, you have like 3 of them in the whole diff
2016-02-10 19:20 Okoratu: and short sliders aren't thaat intuitive for news since they don't really know how many times these repeat or how these sliders work exactly
2016-02-10 19:21 Nozhomi: 00:11:475 (4) - If I ctrl+g it's feel less forced ?
2016-02-10 19:21 Okoratu: yes
2016-02-10 19:21 Nozhomi: k
2016-02-10 19:22 Nozhomi: for repeat sliders...one repeat is not like okay in theory ?
2016-02-10 19:22 Okoratu: the problem i observed with these is that
2016-02-10 19:22 Okoratu: people don't know how long to hold them
2016-02-10 19:22 Okoratu: when they start playing
2016-02-10 19:23 Nozhomi: so
2016-02-10 19:23 Nozhomi: 00:52:275 (3) - these kind have to rip too ?
2016-02-10 19:23 Nozhomi: I mean
2016-02-10 19:23 Nozhomi: yeah
2016-02-10 19:24 Okoratu: uh
2016-02-10 19:24 Nozhomi: there is 2 of them
2016-02-10 19:24 Okoratu: if the slider is long enough they can follow through
2016-02-10 19:24 Nozhomi: yeah k
2016-02-10 19:24 Okoratu: rest of the diff is cool
2016-02-10 19:27 Nozhomi: k

@Enon

@Aia

Also I have to :

Try 1/4 sliders instead of doublets on Torpedo
Double check NC with Aia on Hard.

Thx dude

Enon

2,690 posts

Joined November 2012

Enon 2016-02-10T19:50:42+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
Ahoy, from m4m'ing

Enozho's Extra
00:38:773 (3,4) - All spacings like this one seem a bit too low bc of slider-leniency, the next note isn't emphasized at all, I'd raise them all : \ This section seems cramped anyways since there is so much overlapping although they are far away in the timeline, raising the spacing would help that too ✔ Increased distance between 3, 4
Good luck!

Edit: My 100th kudosu, wheeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Nozhomi wrote:
@Enon

✐ I don't understand why I have to fix the 1/8 objects on my diff.
there are distinct 1/8 sounds at that part. so, I mapped those sounds.

What's wrong?

Thank you for modding, guys

I changed my part a bit

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Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2016-02-10T19:53:16+00:00

you map sounds that torpedo doesn't and the sv makes these misreadable as 1/4, also 1/8 sliders are wayy easier to break on and noz's part has the same sounds as circles only

it's your decision in the end, those are the reasons why i'd personally like them gone

Enon

2,690 posts

Joined November 2012

Enon 2016-02-10T20:23:52+00:00

ok done

rip 1/8

osu file format v14

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80,36,64275,2,0,B|196:56|196:56|264:24,1,180,0|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
332,72,64725,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,72,64875,6,0,L|236:120,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
332,156,65175,2,0,L|412:115,1,90,0|2,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
456,36,65475,2,0,P|500:88|496:140,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
510,259,65775,2,0,P|476:230|463:188,1,90,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,344,66075,6,0,L|391:362,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
325,298,66375,2,0,L|413:279,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,212,66675,2,0,B|272:228|272:228|180:152,1,180,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,96,67275,6,0,P|152:148|144:192,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,224,67725,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,224,67875,2,0,P|112:276|120:320,1,90,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,352,68325,1,8,0:0:0:0:
136,352,68475,2,0,L|192:344,1,45,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,356,68775,2,0,L|280:348,1,45,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,360,69075,2,0,P|304:320|336:268,1,90,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
356,248,69525,1,0,0:0:0:0:
356,248,69675,6,0,B|384:264|384:264|384:328,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,368,70125,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,368,70275,2,0,L|448:296,1,90,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
476,268,70725,1,8,0:0:0:0:
476,268,70875,2,0,P|460:228|464:180,1,90,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,140,71325,1,0,0:0:0:0:
500,100,71475,1,0,3:0:0:0:
420,68,71625,6,0,L|392:64,5,22.5
420,68,72075,6,0,L|326:81,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,88,72525,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,88,72675,2,0,L|381:101,1,90,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
420,108,73125,1,8,0:0:0:0:
420,108,73275,2,0,P|428:136|420:164,1,45,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
412,196,73575,2,0,P|404:224|412:252,1,45,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
428,280,73875,1,0,3:0:0:0:
428,280,74025,2,0,L|480:288,2,45,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
356,336,74475,6,0,P|364:288|352:240,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,208,74925,1,0,0:0:0:0:
316,172,75075,2,0,P|307:128|315:84,1,90,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
332,44,75525,1,8,0:0:0:0:
292,64,75675,2,0,P|264:72|240:68,1,45
208,52,75975,2,0,P|216:80|212:104,1,45,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
196,136,76275,2,0,P|224:128|248:132,1,45,0|2,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
283,118,76575,2,0,P|281:153|293:186,1,67.5,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2016-02-11T13:50:35+00:00

Updated Ovoui and Collab diffs~

Enon

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Enon 2016-02-11T16:47:27+00:00

Is it time to get bubble? XD

Ovoui

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Joined January 2013

Ovoui 2016-02-11T17:35:10+00:00

Exa

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Exa 2016-02-11T21:45:00+00:00

Hello, here I am again!

Aia's Hard:

00:01:275 (1,2) - This...
00:06:075 (1) - Is inconsistent with this! The first rhythm that you've used seems to work much better.
00:20:475 (3,4) - And this...
00:22:875 (6,7,8) - Is inconsistent with this. I get that this part is pretty monotone, but you've already provided a nice variety of rhythms that follow the song well. Now the least you can do is be consistent throughout this part.
00:29:475 (4) - How about doing something like this instead? Changing the horizontal direction while you advance upwards seems like a better way to "spice things up" than keeping an almost linear path. Of course you should select and move the patterns afterwards accordingly.
00:30:075 (7) - NC here...
00:32:475 (6) - And here. Up until now you kept your combos rather small, please continue to do that so there are no HP regain spikes.
00:34:875 (1,2,3,4) - Justifying the change of combos from before. Look at this one.
// Read but don't apply yet //
00:40:275 (8,9) - All of this should be a 1/4 reverse slider as is...
00:42:675 (8,9) - This one. There's even 1/4 bass beats in that which you skip atm.
00:45:075 (8,9) - And for the sake of consistency, again, change this accordingly.
00:49:875 (3,4) - I notice that you stay consistent throughout the kiais on that part. Which made me think twice if whether or not my suggestions to change the patterns before were right. Since you stay consistent, it's objectively ok; therfore it turns into a subjective matter. Try out the rhythms I suggested and if you don't like them, don't use them. But if you do use them, change the ones in the whole of the second kiai afterwards.
// Now you shall apply //
00:59:475 (8) - I would really like to see this as 2 1/2 sliders, one starting at this one's head and the other one at it's tail. Since it's clearly two separate sounds. Heck, there's even a strong enough beat on the red tick which you currently skip as it's in the body of the slider!
01:00:375 (2) - Be consistent! This should be 2 notes. (Or the notes before should be a 1/2 slider, both seem fine).
01:08:775 (6,7) - Either unstack those...
01:11:175 (7,8) - Or stack these ones. Stay kinetically consistent as well since you are given the option to.
01:13:575 (6,7) - After seeing that, I suggest that you better unstack the ones on my previous suggestion.
01:16:125 (8) - I also would rather see that become 2 1/2 sliders since there are two separate sounds contained within this one. One of them completely stops in the sliderbody if this slider, so it's unclear what it actually follows.

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2016-02-12T00:02:36+00:00

Enon wrote:
Is it time to get bubble? XD

Still want some more mods on both Extra tbh from pro modders (don't even know how to catch one lol).

And I have too see things on Hard with Aia too.

Enon

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Enon 2016-02-12T09:14:10+00:00

c:

Gloria Guard

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Gloria Guard 2016-02-14T07:12:42+00:00

Hello I just try this map modding for M4M :3

[General]

■ Ovoui's Insane the timing point is 00:19:123. You are a change timing move 00:19:125

[Easy]

■ 00:16:875 (1) - The spinner is too short. Ithink, this should be changed spinner and this point add long 1/1 slider here
example 00:26:475 (1) here.
■ 00:36:075 (1) - ^ Same
■ 00:45:675 (1) - The slider is overscreen. You a little move this slider
■ 00:55:275 (1) - You already know this spinner
■ 01:07:275 (1) - You check this slider spcing. you need change this spacing is wrong

[Normal]

■ 00:16:875 (1) - This is spinner end move to 00:18:675 ?
■ 00:36:075 (1) - ^ The same spinner issue
■ 00:40:275 (4,5,6) - I think, this slider rhythm a little strange. I felt a little confused this sliders rhythm,
remove 00:39:975 (5) repeat and (6) note, next 00:40:275 this point add 1/4 slider and repeat here.

SPOILER

■ 01:07:275 (1) - Easy same the spacing issue here.

[Aia's Hard]

■ 00:01:725 (3) - I don't think the add 1/8 slider rhythm here, it's not. also I can't heard 1/8 rhythms.
I think, this section add 1/4 slider and repeat
■ 00:07:075 (1) - Why you this slider end to 00:00:300 here? I don't think it. I recommend this slider rhythm to drum
■ 00:09:375 (1) - Remove NC. You don't consistency NCs
■ 00:09:675 (2) - Add NC
■ 00:11:475 (3,4,5) - I think, this rhythm to follow electric(?) sound here. I just recommend this part add 1/2 sliders

SPOILER

■ 00:16:125 (3,4,5) - ^ Same
■ 00:54:975 (4) - Ctrl+G?
■ 00:58:875 (6,7,8) - You are ignore a lot of rhythm and Here are other beats are emphasized.
I recommend change this rhythms. You can try this

SPOILER

■ 01:01:425 (6,7,8) - ^
■ 01:03:675 (6,7,8) - The same this part rhythm issue

Your fix this diff NCs issue

SPOILER

00:19:875 (1) Remove NC.
00:20:475 (3) Add NC
00:22:875 (6) ^
00:23:475 (1) Remove NC
00:24:075 (3) Add NC
00:30:075 (7) ^
00:32:475 (6) ^
00:39:675 (6) ^
00:42:075 (6) ^
00:44:475 (6) ^
00:51:675 (6) ^
00:58:875 (6) ^
01:01:275 (5) ^

[Insane]

■ 00:14:025 (1) - Please consistency new combo. remove NC please
■ 00:18:975 (5) - ^
■ 00:28:575 (1) - ^
■ 00:32:475 (6) - Add New combo
■ 00:33:075 (1) - Remove New combo
■ 00:42:675 (1) - ^
■ 00:47:775 (1) - ^
■ 00:57:075 (1) - ^
■ 01:08:475 (6) - Add new combo here
■ 01:10:875 (6) - ^
■ 01:13:275 (6) - ^
■ 01:15:675 (6) - ^

Ovoui's Insane and Extra it's fine imo Good Luck

Ovoui

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Ovoui 2016-02-17T00:33:16+00:00

Thanks for the mod o/

Noz tu peux fixer pour moi ? Merci jtm

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2016-02-18T19:13:00+00:00

Gloria Guard wrote:
Hello I just try this map modding for M4M :3

[General]

■ Ovoui's Insane the timing point is 00:19:123. You are a change timing move 00:19:125 - Fix

[Easy]

■ 00:16:875 (1) - The spinner is too short. Ithink, this should be changed spinner and this point add long 1/1 slider here
example 00:26:475 (1) here. - The minimum score is ok, and recovery time too. Should be k.
■ 00:36:075 (1) - ^ Same - ^
■ 00:45:675 (1) - The slider is overscreen. You a little move this slider - Fix
■ 00:55:275 (1) - You already know this spinner
■ 01:07:275 (1) - You check this slider spcing. you need change this spacing is wrong - It's due to SV change so that's k.

[Normal]

■ 00:16:875 (1) - This is spinner end move to 00:18:675 ? - No for recovery time.
■ 00:36:075 (1) - ^ The same spinner issue - ^
■ 00:40:275 (4,5,6) - I think, this slider rhythm a little strange. I felt a little confused this sliders rhythm,
remove 00:39:975 (5) repeat and (6) note, next 00:40:275 this point add 1/4 slider and repeat here. - Just changed circle for a 1/2 slider.
SPOILER
■ 01:07:275 (1) - Easy same the spacing issue here. - Same as Easy.

[Insane]

■ 00:14:025 (1) - Please consistency new combo. remove NC please
■ 00:18:975 (5) - ^
■ 00:28:575 (1) - ^
■ 00:32:475 (6) - Add New combo
■ 00:33:075 (1) - Remove New combo
■ 00:42:675 (1) - ^
■ 00:47:775 (1) - ^
■ 00:57:075 (1) - ^
■ 01:08:475 (6) - Add new combo here
■ 01:10:875 (6) - ^
■ 01:13:275 (6) - ^
■ 01:15:675 (6) - ^

- I fixed the unconsistent NC only~

Ovoui's Insane and Extra it's fine imo Good Luck

Thx for mod~

Zectro

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Zectro 2016-02-29T11:28:11+00:00

Hellooo M4M

[Enozho's Extra]

A visual thing is 00:23:475 (4,5,6,7,8) - can be curved better around 00:23:175 (3) -
00:24:825 (5) - 's sliderend is confusing because it ends on an important sound
00:30:225 (2,3,4,5) - This rythm would fit better imo: http://puu.sh/npAOX/2dab90e12e.jpg
00:43:125 (6) - to x240y219 works way better imo
This diff is pretty messy in general because all the hitobjects are extremely close together. Maybe you want to clean it up, that's up to you though

[Ovoui's Insane]

00:17:325 (2) - Should end at 00:17:475 -
00:18:450 (3) - There is a very important sound on this sliders' sliderend, which makes it very confusing.
00:18:825 (4,5,6,7) - Imo this rythm would work better http://puu.sh/npB9c/9ee6b387bc.jpg
You ignore a lot of sounds by placing sliders over them, like 00:37:275 (1) - . This does not work too well. I recommend you change this!

[Insane]
I feel like, instead of what you are currently doing, you should focus more on the melody in this diff, since the melody is incredibly loud but you still decide to focus on the drums.

Following the melody can be done by for example moving 00:02:775 (3) - to 00:02:700 - and deleting 00:02:625 (2) - . If you focus more on patterns like this and make it fit in the map it will turn out way better.

[Torpedo]

00:16:875 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - Stream shape/positioning/spacing is not visually appealing at all imo.
00:17:475 (9) - you can probably nc this if you want to
Uh I've noticed few of NC inconsistencies here, so let me try to help you:
NCs
00:22:725 (8) - NC
00:32:325 (8) - NC
I thought there were gonna be more but w/e
00:31:425 (2,3,4,5) - Uhh this does neither look good nor flow well
00:37:950 - skipping a sound here by putting a slider over it; confusing
01:06:075 (1,2,3) - You should probably NC these for clarity
01:11:625 - Skipping sound, and no, the slider shape does not make up for it because it's not even synced properly
Try to work on your stream shapes a bit more in this diff. Most of them are already good to go but a few longer ones like 00:16:875 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - have some parts that can be curved better etc, like 00:17:700 (12,13,14,15,16) - 00:16:875 (1,2,3) - 3

00:26:475 (1,2,3,4,5) - can be curved better

00:36:825 (11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - Can really have more consistent spacing, aswell as better curving

00:38:100 (6) - why is this behind the slider? D:

00:57:075 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - can also be curved better
00:58:125 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - ^

Good luck!

Ovoui

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Ovoui 2016-03-01T12:22:55+00:00

Zectro wrote:
Hellooo M4M

hello

[Ovoui's Insane]
00:17:325 (2) - Should end at 00:17:475 - no
00:18:450 (3) - There is a very important sound on this sliders' sliderend, which makes it very confusing. i will consider it, but it's ok how it is because i do not want to make a gap between 00:18:450 - 00:18:675 - to show the difference between those two moment : 00:18:450 - 00:18:675 ; 00:18:675 - 00:18:825
00:18:825 (4,5,6,7) - Imo this rythm would work better http://puu.sh/npB9c/9ee6b387bc.jpg no because i mapped on the vocal during the whole song
You ignore a lot of sounds by placing sliders over them, like 00:37:275 (1) - . This does not work too well. I recommend you change this! i'm allowed to undermap some stuff in insane^^

Good luck!

thanks for the mod !

Ozato Fumika

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Ozato Fumika 2016-03-03T13:56:23+00:00

double shioi

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2016-03-03T15:25:59+00:00

Zectro wrote:
Hellooo M4M

[Enozho's Extra]
A visual thing is 00:23:475 (4,5,6,7,8) - can be curved better around 00:23:175 (3) - - Done around (1) due to stacked notes.
00:24:825 (5) - 's sliderend is confusing because it ends on an important sound - Fixed
00:30:225 (2,3,4,5) - This rythm would fit better imo: http://puu.sh/npAOX/2dab90e12e.jpg - No because triplet fit on vocal.
00:43:125 (6) - to x240y219 works way better imo - Stacking them would break the dynamic of this part.
This diff is pretty messy in general because all the hitobjects are extremely close together. Maybe you want to clean it up, that's up to you though - Don't really thing that's messy ^^'
[Insane]
I feel like, instead of what you are currently doing, you should focus more on the melody in this diff, since the melody is incredibly loud but you still decide to focus on the drums.

Following the melody can be done by for example moving 00:02:775 (3) - to 00:02:700 - and deleting 00:02:625 (2) - . If you focus more on patterns like this and make it fit in the map it will turn out way better. - I prefer keep stuff like this, simply because focusing rhythm drums here is on purpose to have a low Insane, to fil the gap with Hard and Ovoui's Insane. Doing rhythm like you mention would be way too hard in the end, and that's not what I'm looking for.

[Torpedo]
00:16:875 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - Stream shape/positioning/spacing is not visually appealing at all imo. - Don't see any problem here.
00:17:475 (9) - you can probably nc this if you want to - K
Uh I've noticed few of NC inconsistencies here, so let me try to help you: - They are on purpose because of close NC soon after.
NCs
00:22:725 (8) - NC
00:32:325 (8) - NC
I thought there were gonna be more but w/e
00:31:425 (2,3,4,5) - Uhh this does neither look good nor flow well - Wtf happend here :/ fixed.
00:37:950 - skipping a sound here by putting a slider over it; confusing - Was on purpose to emphasis the sound in the middle.
01:06:075 (1,2,3) - You should probably NC these for clarity - Ok fair.
01:11:625 - Skipping sound, and no, the slider shape does not make up for it because it's not even synced properly - Follow vocal here that's good.
Try to work on your stream shapes a bit more in this diff. Most of them are already good to go but a few longer ones like 00:16:875 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - have some parts that can be curved better etc, like 00:17:700 (12,13,14,15,16) - 00:16:875 (1,2,3) - 3

00:26:475 (1,2,3,4,5) - can be curved better

00:36:825 (11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - Can really have more consistent spacing, aswell as better curving

00:38:100 (6) - why is this behind the slider? D:

00:57:075 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - can also be curved better
00:58:125 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - ^ - Fixed some of them.
Good luck!

Thx~

Enon

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Enon 2016-03-03T17:43:01+00:00

Zectro wrote:
Hellooo M4M

[Enozho's Extra]
00:43:125 (6) - to x240y219 works way better imo ✘ It would make this map more messy than now
This diff is pretty messy in general because all the hitobjects are extremely close together. Maybe you want to clean it up, that's up to you though ✘ I could be known my mapping skill is not good enough to satisfy for you(or more). However, Did you consider that if that was more far than now on this map? That'd clean than now, Really? I don't think like that?
Good luck!

thank you for modding!

Moeka wrote:
double shioi

;;;;;;;;;;;

Last edited by Enon 2016-03-04T07:20:11+00:00, edited 5 times in total.

Enon

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Enon 2016-03-03T17:45:47+00:00

double posting

Aia

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Aia 2016-03-08T00:08:54+00:00

Exa wrote:
Hello, here I am again!

Aia's Hard:

00:01:275 (1,2) - This...
00:06:075 (1) - Is inconsistent with this! The first rhythm that you've used seems to work much better.
00:20:475 (3,4) - And this...
00:22:875 (6,7,8) - Is inconsistent with this. I get that this part is pretty monotone, but you've already provided a nice variety of rhythms that follow the song well. Now the least you can do is be consistent throughout this part.
00:29:475 (4) - How about doing something like this instead? Changing the horizontal direction while you advance upwards seems like a better way to "spice things up" than keeping an almost linear path. Of course you should select and move the patterns afterwards accordingly.
00:30:075 (7) - NC here...
00:32:475 (6) - And here. Up until now you kept your combos rather small, please continue to do that so there are no HP regain spikes.
00:34:875 (1,2,3,4) - Justifying the change of combos from before. Look at this one.
// Read but don't apply yet //
00:40:275 (8,9) - All of this should be a 1/4 reverse slider as is...
00:42:675 (8,9) - This one. There's even 1/4 bass beats in that which you skip atm.
00:45:075 (8,9) - And for the sake of consistency, again, change this accordingly.
00:49:875 (3,4) - I notice that you stay consistent throughout the kiais on that part. Which made me think twice if whether or not my suggestions to change the patterns before were right. Since you stay consistent, it's objectively ok; therfore it turns into a subjective matter. Try out the rhythms I suggested and if you don't like them, don't use them. But if you do use them, change the ones in the whole of the second kiai afterwards.
// Now you shall apply //
00:59:475 (8) - I would really like to see this as 2 1/2 sliders, one starting at this one's head and the other one at it's tail. Since it's clearly two separate sounds. Heck, there's even a strong enough beat on the red tick which you currently skip as it's in the body of the slider!
01:00:375 (2) - Be consistent! This should be 2 notes. (Or the notes before should be a 1/2 slider, both seem fine).
01:08:775 (6,7) - Either unstack those...
01:11:175 (7,8) - Or stack these ones. Stay kinetically consistent as well since you are given the option to.
01:13:575 (6,7) - After seeing that, I suggest that you better unstack the ones on my previous suggestion.
01:16:125 (8) - I also would rather see that become 2 1/2 sliders since there are two separate sounds contained within this one. One of them completely stops in the sliderbody if this slider, so it's unclear what it actually follows.

Too much writing if I start answering every single one separately, basically I don't agree with most things here since I've mapped everything the way I want it to be, everything follows something.

Fixed some of the inconsistencies though.

Gloria Guard wrote:
[Aia's Hard]

■ 00:01:725 (3) - I don't think the add 1/8 slider rhythm here, it's not. also I can't heard 1/8 rhythms.
I think, this section add 1/4 slider and repeat
■ 00:07:075 (1) - Why you this slider end to 00:00:300 here? I don't think it. I recommend this slider rhythm to drum
■ 00:09:375 (1) - Remove NC. You don't consistency NCs
■ 00:09:675 (2) - Add NC
■ 00:11:475 (3,4,5) - I think, this rhythm to follow electric(?) sound here. I just recommend this part add 1/2 sliders
SPOILER
■ 00:16:125 (3,4,5) - ^ Same
■ 00:54:975 (4) - Ctrl+G?
■ 00:58:875 (6,7,8) - You are ignore a lot of rhythm and Here are other beats are emphasized.
I recommend change this rhythms. You can try this
SPOILER
■ 01:01:425 (6,7,8) - ^
■ 01:03:675 (6,7,8) - The same this part rhythm issue

Your fix this diff NCs issue

SPOILER
00:19:875 (1) Remove NC.
00:20:475 (3) Add NC
00:22:875 (6) ^
00:23:475 (1) Remove NC
00:24:075 (3) Add NC
00:30:075 (7) ^
00:32:475 (6) ^
00:39:675 (6) ^
00:42:075 (6) ^
00:44:475 (6) ^
00:51:675 (6) ^
00:58:875 (6) ^
01:01:275 (5) ^

Basically don't agree with any of the "rhythm issues" you pointed out, I think the rhythm is just fine.

Nozhomi fixed NC issues.

Sorry for taking so long to answer D:

update

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 19123
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 8
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.7

[Metadata]
Title:168 - 401
TitleUnicode:168 - 401
Artist:saradisk
ArtistUnicode:saradisk
Creator:Nozhomi
Version:Aia's Hard
Source:è‰¦éšŠã“ã‚Œãã—ã‚‡ã‚“ -è‰¦ã“ã‚Œ-
Tags:kancolle kantai collection shioi Aia Ovoui Enon
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Nozhomi

Global Moderator

4,568 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

Nozhomi 2016-03-08T14:05:46+00:00

Aia diff updated.

If you think Aia didn't answer older mods than Exa recheck, it's because Aia did a remap so mod could not apply to the new version.

Stjpa

886 posts

Joined July 2013

Stjpa 2016-03-16T20:11:20+00:00

not a bn and not a pro modder but wanna give a mod anyway

[General]
Maybe rename Easy to Normal and Normal to Advanced? The Easy diff looks quite hard so it wouldn't be such a bad idea. (and sorry if somebody already suggested it, too lazy to read the other mods lol)

[Easy]
• 00:11:175 (3,4,1) - Isn't something like this unrankable in an Easy / Normal diffs? I mean (1) is visible really really early, a few seconds before you even click (3).
• 01:03:675 (2,1) - ^
• 01:07:275 (1,1) - Overlap is barely visible but fixing it isn't such a big thing though.

[Normal]
• 00:09:375 (5) - Feels better on the previous red tick imo. Kinda weird to map the second syllable of the word or whatever it is, first one is stronger anyway here.

[Aia's Hard]
• Might wanna check DS consistency? I see that you used a system here, but sometimes they are like more than 0,1x off, if I'm not mistaken. :v
• 00:50:775 (2,3) - 01:05:325 (3,4) - 01:12:075 (1,2) - So you pretty much mapped with (more or less, if the point above is right) constant DS but here you decided to emphasize a random sound for no reason. I might be wrong though, didn't read the previous mods.
• 01:07:275 - This part is just slighty less intense than the previous one but you decrease quite much. This also causes some weird overlaps like 01:10:275 (3,5) - 01:12:975 (4,6) -

[Insane]
• 00:02:925 (4,5,6) - Maybe a stronger "zigzag" flow? Music allows it so why not.
• 00:47:475 (3) - Why not at least a 1/2 slider here for the syllable?

[Ovoui's Insane]
• 01:09:075 - 01:13:875 - Wouldn't ignore these sounds, you can easily just add them atm. You mixed melody mapping with vocal mapping, and those 2 are a part of the melody so eh... D:

[Torpedo]
• 00:09:375 (7,8,9,10,1) - I know that it's symmetrical mapping right here but the spacing here just makes no sense at all. I keep missing here because the spacing is not supposed to be like this. :v

Nozhomi

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Topic Starter

Nozhomi 2016-03-17T15:31:01+00:00

Stjpa wrote:
not a bn and not a pro modder but wanna give a mod anyway

[General]
Maybe rename Easy to Normal and Normal to Advanced? The Easy diff looks quite hard so it wouldn't be such a bad idea. (and sorry if somebody already suggested it, too lazy to read the other mods lol) - Ok seems fair enough. Up OD and AR a little on purpose for the new diffname.

[Easy]
• 00:11:175 (3,4,1) - Isn't something like this unrankable in an Easy / Normal diffs? I mean (1) is visible really really early, a few seconds before you even click (3).
• 01:03:675 (2,1) - ^ - Both are ok, because the combo color helps to read the pattern.
• 01:07:275 (1,1) - Overlap is barely visible but fixing it isn't such a big thing though. - Fix

[Normal]
• 00:09:375 (5) - Feels better on the previous red tick imo. Kinda weird to map the second syllable of the word or whatever it is, first one is stronger anyway here. - It's worst, and drums are much stronger imo.

[Insane]
• 00:02:925 (4,5,6) - Maybe a stronger "zigzag" flow? Music allows it so why not. - Because a 1/4 reverse is way enough for a 'now' Insane.
• 00:47:475 (3) - Why not at least a 1/2 slider here for the syllable? - Same, it's just for the pattern and works.

[Torpedo]
• 00:09:375 (7,8,9,10,1) - I know that it's symmetrical mapping right here but the spacing here just makes no sense at all. I keep missing here because the spacing is not supposed to be like this. :v - Ok did a consistant DS for it.

Thx for the mod~

Aia

181 posts

Joined October 2013

Aia 2016-03-17T16:12:57+00:00

[Aia's Hard]
• Might wanna check DS consistency? I see that you used a system here, but sometimes they are like more than 0,1x off, if I'm not mistaken. :v
• 00:50:775 (2,3) - 01:05:325 (3,4) - 01:12:075 (1,2) - So you pretty much mapped with (more or less, if the point above is right) constant DS but here you decided to emphasize a random sound for no reason. I might be wrong though, didn't read the previous mods.
• 01:07:275 - This part is just slighty less intense than the previous one but you decrease quite much. This also causes some weird overlaps like 01:10:275 (3,5) - 01:12:975 (4,6) -

Fixed everything.

update

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Ovoui

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Ovoui 2016-03-17T16:14:21+00:00

Stjpa wrote:
[Ovoui's Insane]
• 01:09:075 - 01:13:875 - Wouldn't ignore these sounds, you can easily just add them atm. You mixed melody mapping with vocal mapping, and those 2 are a part of the melody so eh... D:

I don't feel that those two 1/1 gap are weird when i play the diff + when i try to put object 01:09:075 - 01:13:875 it's ankward to play

thanks for the mod btw

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2016-03-17T16:24:12+00:00

Updated~

Avishay

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Avishay 2016-03-17T18:03:50+00:00

BOSKIRI BOBOBO

[General]

01:16:275 (3) - (or the last slider in any diff for that matter) I strongly recommend ending that slider on the white tick at 01:16:575, since the vocals don't really end, they just get cut by the sound file, which makes it really odd, ending it on 01:16:575 plays great with the music itself and gives space for the vocals right afterwards.

[Normal]

00:44:475 (2) - Spacing needs to be consistent here, if you manage to get perfect alignment with 00:43:275 (1) - that'd be great.
01:15:975 (2) - Less crucial, but even spacing would be nicer. In addition, placing the circle in the right side of the sliders would be a better transition rather than current placement, something like this - http://puu.sh/nJVeT/71c4227537.jpg

[Advanced]

00:06:075 (3,4) - Perfect alignment would be nice.
Overall this diff is cool but it feels a bit too dense compared to the previous diff, but I guess it can't be avoided with that kind of song.

[Aia's Hard]

00:59:025 (2,3) - Felt awkward to play, yeah the instrument on the blue tick is stronger than the red tick, but it feels too long and 00:59:475 (3) - is too weak to pick up the previous rhythm, a solution could be imitating the rhythm from before http://puu.sh/nJXvg/4cd5bbfbcd.jpg Oh, this pattern repeats and appears again two times, and this comment applies to those as well, so if you decide to change anything here, please do for the others, as I checked those and my concerns could be applied to those as well.
01:06:525 (2) - Pretty random and doesn't go well with the song at all, there's nothing on the head of the slider, and there's a clear change of instruments in the middle of it, try this pattern instead - http://puu.sh/nJXLg/5e6f550c5a.jpg (deleting 4 here works too)
01:11:175 (6,7) - In comparasion to 01:08:775 (6,7) - (which gets supported by the vocals), this pattern does not get a clear support from neither the vocals nor instruments.
01:13:575 (6,7) - This is supported by the vocals, but I feel like mapping the next white tick is necessary to keep hold of the vocals, otherwise it's awkward.

[Insane]

00:03:825 (2,3) - Nothing suggests those sliders (actually something does, but that's really minor and the other instruments overtake it easily, anyway..), 5 repeats is not intuitive at all and it does not really fit the song, try this instead http://puu.sh/nJYdu/3d18a6cb4f.jpg
00:13:575 (3,5) - The blue ticks right after those sliders start are overmapped and this does not compliment this diff too much.. try this instead http://puu.sh/nJYqx/76abc76d04.jpg
00:18:375 (3,4) - This is definitely misleading, sightreading it felt like the beatgap was 1/4, the mapped objects are definitely strong, but audible 1/4 still exist inbetween those, so if you want to keep this pattern I'd suggest increasing the spacing so it won't be interpreted as 1/4.
00:22:725 (6) - Only sliderend as downbeat in this section, and honestly it doesn't play that well, I'd change the pattern here.

[Ovoui's Insane]

00:03:825 (2,3) - Same like at the Insane.
00:22:575 (7,8,1) - Yeah well uhm that's a bit too much fior an Insane, I am completely fine with 00:20:175 (7,8,1) - since the movement is well done, however here the movement has some really sharp turns and it's more hard than necessary. 00:24:975 (7,8,1) - 00:26:175 (7,8,1) - are just fine too.
00:27:375 (2) - http://puu.sh/nJZfR/1d0e4617a3.jpg Would be less confusing since there are no reverses on the second slider and it goes really well with the song! I suggest stacking the circles on the next slider.
00:35:775 (7,8,1) - Same like before, movement is poor. Furthermore, this looks really really tight overall, overlaps with too much stuff and doesn't look nice at all.
00:36:975 (2) - Like before as well.
00:37:275 (1) - Unnecessarily too long, compared to the last same slider, it should be 1/4 shorter and it does work better indeed.
00:44:175 (7,8,1) - Kinda okay, but I'd move it to something like this - http://puu.sh/nJZww/2ebd4afafb.jpg to make it more intuitive.
00:45:375 (7,8,1,2) - Like before blah blah.
00:54:975 (7,8,1,2) - Same (movement in the first objects here is really overkill)
00:56:475 (1,2,3) - What are you following here? It feels really odd to play.
00:59:025 (7,8) - 01:01:425 (7) - 01:03:825 (7) - etcetc - A triplet in the end would play much better.

[Enozho's Extra]

00:03:825 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Extra diff could use something much more interesting here, give attention to the stronger drums.
00:21:975 (3,4,5) - Sudden 1/2 only rhythm seem really inappropriate here, especially with the sliderend of 5, which should be pressable imo.
01:11:475 (7,1) - As 1 is overmapping anyway, starting the slider on 7 would be much nicer (and this way it sounds much better as a 2 beat stream rather than 1.5)
Really cool kiai, I love it.

[Torpedo]

00:09:675 (1,4,5,6) - Either stack those or avoid the weird overlap.
00:19:725 (3,4) - Talking generally about this pattern (sliders only, circles doubles were really fun), I can't say I enjoyed it, it just feel really odd with such a fast paced song, especially when they could have bigger spacing to support them.
00:55:275 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - Is that Monstrata hiding there?

Okoratu

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Okoratu 2016-03-17T18:23:55+00:00

I like how motivated new bns are

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2016-03-17T19:07:16+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
I like how motivated new bns are

I like you /me runs

Avishay wrote:
BOSKIRI BOBOBO - What is this lol XD

[General]
01:16:275 (3) - (or the last slider in any diff for that matter) I strongly recommend ending that slider on the white tick at 01:16:575, since the vocals don't really end, they just get cut by the sound file, which makes it really odd, ending it on 01:16:575 plays great with the music itself and gives space for the vocals right afterwards. - Ok fair and sounds k.
[Normal]
00:44:475 (2) - Spacing needs to be consistent here, if you manage to get perfect alignment with 00:43:275 (1) - that'd be great. - Wooooooooow wtf. Fixed.
01:15:975 (2) - Less crucial, but even spacing would be nicer. In addition, placing the circle in the right side of the sliders would be a better transition rather than current placement, something like this - http://puu.sh/nJVeT/71c4227537.jpg - So I did smth different because your slider was k before the general fix.
[Advanced]
00:06:075 (3,4) - Perfect alignment would be nice. - Well I don't really how to align them more than that.
Overall this diff is cool but it feels a bit too dense compared to the previous diff, but I guess it can't be avoided with that kind of song. - Yeah I tried to makes it simple as possible, but now it's Advanced, I think it fit quite well on the spread.
[Insane]
00:03:825 (2,3) - Nothing suggests those sliders (actually something does, but that's really minor and the other instruments overtake it easily, anyway..), 5 repeats is not intuitive at all and it does not really fit the song, try this instead http://puu.sh/nJYdu/3d18a6cb4f.jpg - Take your idea and adapted to mine :>
00:13:575 (3,5) - The blue ticks right after those sliders start are overmapped and this does not compliment this diff too much.. try this instead http://puu.sh/nJYqx/76abc76d04.jpg - Ok nice.
00:18:375 (3,4) - This is definitely misleading, sightreading it felt like the beatgap was 1/4, the mapped objects are definitely strong, but audible 1/4 still exist inbetween those, so if you want to keep this pattern I'd suggest increasing the spacing so it won't be interpreted as 1/4. - Yep should be better now.
00:22:725 (6) - Only sliderend as downbeat in this section, and honestly it doesn't play that well, I'd change the pattern here. - Agree, fixed.
[Enozho's Extra]
00:03:825 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Extra diff could use something much more interesting here, give attention to the stronger drums. - Tried something more interesting.
00:21:975 (3,4,5) - Sudden 1/2 only rhythm seem really inappropriate here, especially with the sliderend of 5, which should be pressable imo. - Yeah ok redo the pattern.
[Torpedo]
00:09:675 (1,4,5,6) - Either stack those or avoid the weird overlap. - Look what happend if I use stacking option http://puu.sh/nKnUp/79f99ed3d8.jpg .
00:19:725 (3,4) - Talking generally about this pattern (sliders only, circles doubles were really fun), I can't say I enjoyed it, it just feel really odd with such a fast paced song, especially when they could have bigger spacing to support them. - Well I think they're ok. The diff is already enough hard to have more added on it like spaced them. Should be ok no ?
00:55:275 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - Is that Monstrata hiding there? - LOL I wonder but no sadly I don't think so ^^'

Thx a lot ♥ Waiting for GDs~

Avishay wrote:
lazy prick

Ayyyyyyyyyyy #shotfired !!!

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Avishay

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Avishay 2016-03-17T22:41:06+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
I like how motivated new bns are

lazy prick

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Battle 2016-03-18T00:58:38+00:00

dam

Ovoui

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Ovoui 2016-03-18T17:54:11+00:00

Avishay wrote:
BOSKIRI BOBOBO

[Ovoui's Insane]
00:03:825 (2,3) - Same like at the Insane. I do not agree with you, you can cleary hear some 1/4 sounds and a pitch change
00:22:575 (7,8,1) - Yeah well uhm that's a bit too much fior an Insane, I am completely fine with 00:20:175 (7,8,1) - since the movement is well done, however here the movement has some really sharp turns and it's more hard than necessary. 00:24:975 (7,8,1) - 00:26:175 (7,8,1) - are just fine too. It's a triangle so it should be ok
00:27:375 (2) - http://puu.sh/nJZfR/1d0e4617a3.jpg Would be less confusing since there are no reverses on the second slider and it goes really well with the song! I suggest stacking the circles on the next slider. It's not really confused because it follows the music + it's consistent, moreover it's really easy to play thanks to the ar9imo
00:35:775 (7,8,1) - Same like before, movement is poor. Furthermore, this looks really really tight overall, overlaps with too much stuff and doesn't look nice at all. Why it does not lokk nice ?
00:36:975 (2) - Like before as well.
00:37:275 (1) - Unnecessarily too long, compared to the last same slider, it should be 1/4 shorter and it does work better indeed. The slider is folowing a held sound + there's a sound here 00:37:800 - so it's ok i think
00:44:175 (7,8,1) - Kinda okay, but I'd move it to something like this - http://puu.sh/nJZww/2ebd4afafb.jpg to make it more intuitive. it'll break the stack with 00:44:175 (7,4) -
00:45:375 (7,8,1,2) - Like before blah blah. i don't see any problem here, Triangles are ok, isn't them ?
00:54:975 (7,8,1,2) - Same (movement in the first objects here is really overkill)
00:56:475 (1,2,3) - What are you following here? It feels really odd to play. Fixed the rhythm
00:59:025 (7,8) - 01:01:425 (7) - 01:03:825 (7) - etcetc - A triplet in the end would play much better. i wanted to only map the vocal here

thanks for the mod, sorry the amount of red :c
It's not like i do not want to change anything, you did not give me explanations enough to convince me

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Rumia- 2016-03-19T12:06:30+00:00

[General]
offset should be 82

[Torpedo]
this diff has a lot of stacks , i suggest to use stack leniency 5 , would totally make your stacks looks more tidy
00:17:475 (1) - remove nc to keep consistency with 00:27:075 (9) - , 00:36:675 (9) - ,00:46:275 (9) - ,00:55:875 (9) - .
00:23:482 (1,2,3,4,5) - why are these 1.2x , and 00:33:082 (1,2,3,4,5) - are 1.0x? make them similar ds
00:31:732 (5) - suggest you move this near to 00:32:182 (7) - , the beat is strong , require more spacing from prev object , maybe you can place them like this http://puu.sh/nM2mR.jpg would look symmetry and plays better
00:22:132 (5,6) - and 00:34:132 (5,6) - this gap is misleading , plz add more spacing ,it looks like 1/2 .. 00:19:732 (3,4) - spacing like this should be fine
00:42:682 (1,2) - suggestion , psychological matter , it makes it easier to read

SPOILER

00:56:625 (2,3,4,5) - according to the song it should be a continuous stream until 00:57:675 - suggest to change it to some kick slider would fit the part even better
00:57:082 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - untidy circular stream pattern , can do better
01:16:425 (9) - i think you picked the wrong instrument , 01:16:425 - the sound that starts here should end at 01:16:575 - instead , the cute fart sound ( lol , starts at 01:16:275 -

hand buffer

[Enozho]
00:04:200 - imo it makes no sense to ignore , suggest to split this into 2 1/4 sliders would fit the song more
00:03:975 (4) - same as abov
00:29:100 (2) - you catched this , so why not 00:29:550 - here too , can just stack on 5
00:31:950 - same as above
00:34:350 - ^
00:42:600 (3) - imo better just delete this , give a bit room + gives better transition , like you did at 00:52:125 (2,3) - is nice
00:47:175 (3,4,5,6,7) - move this more to the left side ,so distance between 00:47:475 (7,1) - is not confused

cool speedups

[Ovoui]
00:01:875 (3,4) - cool pattern but i feel like the beat is better to map it like this instead , just a suggestion though , also at 00:06:675 (3,4) - too

SPOILER

00:03:825 (2) - maybe try this rhythm?

SPOILER

00:13:425 (2) - ^ , but maybe instead of 2 circle , can use 1/4 slider too
00:24:975 (7,8,1) - keep the ds consistent
00:26:475 (1) - hmm this rhythm is particularly wrong it should be like

SPOILER

cool patterns , just some beat choices bugs me a little xD

[Insane]
00:20:175 (5,4) - stack them ?

nothing to suggest , pretty solid to me

[Aia's]
00:03:975 (3,4,5) - make them look equal spacing
01:06:525 (2) - this should be on white tick just like 00:59:475 (3) - , suggest you to add a circle on the current red tick instead

gl~
i managed not to lazy \o/

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