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[GUIDE] How to improve in osu!mania

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timi96
some inverted notes beatmaps? (lift or LN walls) i didn't find any
Safaklc_old
Thanks bro this is awesome ;)
Jinjin

timi96 wrote:

some inverted notes beatmaps? (lift or LN walls) i didn't find any
They don't appear often in the lower difficulty maps, however inversions and LN walls are key components in higher difficulty o2jam style or ln style maps.

Here are some examples:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/132824 (Lv.34 7K)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/130543 (Lv.42)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/206756 (All diffs)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/252179 (Lv.71 & Lv.83)
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/653533
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/543414 (Lv.34)
ovnz

timi96 wrote:

some inverted notes beatmaps? (lift or LN walls) i didn't find any
You can invert any map using this script, and there's an inverted LN mod coming soon™.
Un0fficial
Im fairly new to Osu!mania, but i can play some patterns. I was wondering if anyone here could help me figure out the skill level i would be classed at? Sometimes I feel like a novice, and other times i feel like a beginner.
toastly
(I am by no means an expert so if I say something completely dumb or wrong please don't hold it against me. Also my star estimates are personal estimates from experience)

Un0fficial, the whole Beginner-Novice-Advanced-ET classification isn't 4 concrete stages, it's an entire spectrum. Beginners can play anywhere from 1 to low 3 stars, Novices can extend from 3 to high 4 or even 5 stars, Advanced is 4-6 stars and ET is anything else. I looked at your profile (sorry) and my guess is you're bridging Beginner/Novice. You're playing 1-2 star beatmaps, but highly excelling at them as far as accuracy goes.

You may feel that you're switching between them due to a bad performance, which happens to most of us. Also, keep in mind different maps can have completely different patterns, some you're well acquainted with and some you've never seen before. It's important to pracitce those you haven't seen before, it helps you become a much better player, much quicker.

If you're looking to cement your status as a Novice, begin to practice some harder maps, going from 2-2.5 stars. They'll be harder and you're likely to get B's and C's when you first play them, perhaps even fail, but continue playing them and you'll see improvement. Keep track of the star count you excell at, pass at, and fail at, as star counts are a very solid guideline to go off of.

Sorry for writing a lot, probably a bit more than you were looking for. Remember, keep a positive attitude, and PRACTICE. Good luck!
PyaKura
yeah basically don't stick to stuff you're comfy playing. Most of the stuff I play I get low to mid B's and that's an everyday thing you get accustomed too, until that day you get an A and eventually S and you go "wow no shit I can't believe I was down there a few weeks/months ago"
Lolapops
As a new player myself this guide is very helpful. Given that i havn't read 17 pages of comments i thought i'd share my experience today.

Today i was given the advice that if i wanted to improve my game faster. I should stop playing autoconverts.
When i stopped playing autoconverts and only played !Mania maps for the fews hours i played today i can truely say that the advice was worth pure gold.

Personally i find the !Mania maps way more fun aswell as the patterns aren't boring compared to a lot of the autoconverts.

I'm not saying we should completely lay off the autoconverts. Maybe just have a more casual approach to the autoconverts and a more serious approach to the !Mania maps.

Please do correct me if i'm wrong! (I'm new afterall)

Cheers!
Ukaei
This was hard to read. English not your first language or something?

Thanks for the guide!
Un0fficial
So, i have appeared to hit a wall. I can pass some very high two star maps, but when ever it has those fast patterns that have two notes at once, i lode it. Like when it goes like, middle left, two keys on the left, outside right, both outside keys. That completely throws me off. Is this completely normal, and is there a way to practice it effectively?
Un0fficial
So, i have appeared to hit a wall. I can pass some very high two star maps, but when ever it has those fast patterns that have two notes at once, i lode it. Like when it goes like, middle left, two keys on the left, outside right, both outside keys. That completely throws me off. Is this completely normal, and is there a way to practice it effectively? Also, how do i get the track in the middle of the screen? What file in the .ini do i change?
TrinitehFoarse
My problem is, HOW DO I GET THE DARN IIDX MAPS?!?!?! THEY'RE TOO HARD!
Tristan97

TrinitehFoarse wrote:

My problem is, HOW DO I GET THE DARN IIDX MAPS?!?!?! THEY'RE TOO HARD!
You'll have to play a lot more than 19 autoconverts to be be successful at IIDX maps.

Play mania specific beatmaps, play easier 7 key difficulties, play lots of them and work your way up.
Redon
TrinitehFoarse

Tristan97 wrote:

TrinitehFoarse wrote:

My problem is, HOW DO I GET THE DARN IIDX MAPS?!?!?! THEY'RE TOO HARD!
You'll have to play a lot more than 19 autoconverts to be be successful at IIDX maps.

Play mania specific beatmaps, play easier 7 key difficulties, play lots of them and work your way up.
My finger indepence doesn't allow me to. (sorry for saying it out of the blue)

Redon wrote:

Un0fficial wrote:

So, i have appeared to hit a wall. I can pass some very high two star maps, but when ever it has those fast patterns that have two notes at once, i lode it. Like when it goes like, middle left, two keys on the left, outside right, both outside keys. That completely throws me off. Is this completely normal, and is there a way to practice it effectively?

play more
play different maps that have slower/simpler versions of the patterns you're struggling with
also play 7K

Also, how do i get the track in the middle of the screen? What file in the .ini do i change?
In the skin.ini file, under [Mania], the value for ColumnStart tells the game how big the gap between the left edge of the window and the first column should be.
https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Skin.ini
Yooh - Legend has some okay patterns on the easiest diff.

Tristan97 wrote:

TrinitehFoarse wrote:

My problem is, HOW DO I GET THE DARN IIDX MAPS?!?!?! THEY'RE TOO HARD!
You'll have to play a lot more than 19 autoconverts to be be successful at IIDX maps.

Play mania specific beatmaps, play easier 7 key difficulties, play lots of them and work your way up.
Can you give me a easy 7K map?
dennischan
How to pass streams?

I'm really bad at streams and my friend gave me the https://osu.ppy.sh/s/147745 Candy Galy map.
The 4k HD is really brutal with almost unreadable 1/4 notes, but it's only 3.00 stars and only HD.
My friend told me to play a lot of those, but I cant even pass the HD.

I can play those chord thingies at about star rating 3.5-3.7, but I get destroyed by the 1/4 short notes.

What should I do to improve streams~~

EDIT: I play both 4k and 7k
edisk

dennischan wrote:

How to pass streams?

I can play those chord thingies at about star rating 3.5-3.7, but I get destroyed by the 1/4 short notes.

What should I do to improve streams~~

EDIT: I play both 4k and 7k
Play more. If you get destroyed by streams from a certain star rating, play streams with slightly lower star ratings till you are able to hit most of them.
Fortunape
''Time to move on to the real rhythm games cause you're a big boy now ;)'' Which real rhythm games?
- Revi -

Fortunape wrote:

''Time to move on to the real rhythm games cause you're a big boy now ;)'' Which real rhythm games?
Learn to play real drums.

btw This guide is great.
Jinjin

Fortunape wrote:

''Time to move on to the real rhythm games cause you're a big boy now ;)'' Which real rhythm games?
It's a sarcastic remark by him because osu mania doesn't offer a lot of high difficulty charts. He's considering osu!mania to be a 'baby's rhythm game', so to say. The 'real rhythm games' that he's referring to would be vsrgs like o2jam and lr2.
gintoki147
Is there an active 7/8k platform besides LR2?
O2Jam is fun, but its client is way too outdated and crappy.
Todestrieb
LR2 is still active, the BOFU is happening right now, It's more than thousands new songs. But yeah, there isn't any other game except some in dev. http://manbow.nothing.sh/event/event.cgi?action=List_def&event=104
PyaKura
He didn't say it is inactive though.

o2jam might be old school and crappy client-wise but as long as it is fun, who cares?

Let's see, I know agka's developing raindrop but afaik it's still pretty unfinished. Works though. You might wanna check out Malody, but I wouldn't really recommend it...
gintoki147
Do you have any o2jam server to recommend?
I tried to play o2jamv3, but I didn't like it at all. D:

@Edit
Actually, forget it. I like it now. lol
Bobbias
http://vsrg.club has a server
EtienneXC
Stepmania
Shoegazer

EtienneXC wrote:

Stepmania
We should really make that 4K improvement guide soon.
Bobbias

Shoegazer wrote:

EtienneXC wrote:

Stepmania
We should really make that 4K improvement guide soon.
Yes you should.
EtienneXC

Shoegazer wrote:

EtienneXC wrote:

Stepmania
We should really make that 4K improvement guide soon.
Maybe on Ssturday, we can get something going with that.
Shimomura
i have a new problem now.I'm having a hard time improving from 4* beatmap to 5* beatmap.Any tips?
ARCskieZ
Not a 4k player, but I improved to the next difficulty via analyzing what is my most common problem in harder maps/maps in the difficulty I play atm. and try to get better at what gives me a hard time.
For example: layered LN's are a huge problem for me, so I played only maps with these patterns in them to get better at them.
Another tip would be: play harder maps on halftime and try to get high acc. and try to learn new or hard patterns.
If you play them map on normal speed later you'll have an easier time to play these patterns.
Last tip: play old maps and try to get higher acc. and combo.
I saw alot of your scores are A's. Try to get S ranks and maybe 97%acc plus.
It seems you're not ready to progress in harder difficulty when your baseskill on an easier difficulty is lacking.
Hope that helps somewhat.
Cheers
Shimomura

ARCskieZ wrote:

Not a 4k player, but I improved to the next difficulty via analyzing what is my most common problem in harder maps/maps in the difficulty I play atm. and try to get better at what gives me a hard time.
For example: layered LN's are a huge problem for me, so I played only maps with these patterns in them to get better at them.
Another tip would be: play harder maps on halftime and try to get high acc. and try to learn new or hard patterns.
If you play them map on normal speed later you'll have an easier time to play these patterns.
Last tip: play old maps and try to get higher acc. and combo.
I saw alot of your scores are A's. Try to get S ranks and maybe 97%acc plus.
It seems you're not ready to progress in harder difficulty when your baseskill on an easier difficulty is lacking.
Hope that helps somewhat.
Cheers
i see, well i do rushing too much to play harder song so i didn't really pay much attention on my accuracy.I will try to improve it first while i play harder maps on halftime.Thx btw
zhrio
Is it a good idea to bind keys to DFJKL in 5k, for example, or should i keep the default layout with space in it?
Bobbias
It's entirely up to you. In 5k that kind of layout doesn't have much disadvantage over a spacebar based layout. However, if you plan on learning 7k later, it might be a good idea to stick with the spacebar. It's certainly possible to be good at 7k using something like sdfghjk, but that layout requires a pinkie on one of your hands, and pinkies are much weaker than your other fingers, which puts you at a disadvantage.

In any case, it's totally up to you. There's no 'right' way to play mania.
Begoul
Hello , as it is recommended I try to keep my eyes on the midle of the screen . But they go down all the time especially when there are LN , stairs or a hight density for me . How could I train that ?
Thanks
Todestrieb
You should just keep playing, with time you will do this a lot less. It's normal when you start. ;)
Bobbias

Begoul wrote:

Hello , as it is recommended I try to keep my eyes on the midle of the screen . But they go down all the time especially when there are LN , stairs or a hight density for me . How could I train that ?
Thanks

I personally found that playing with hidden helped me stop doing that. But while I could keep my eyes in place with hidden, the habit of looking lower would still come back a bit when playing without it.
PyaKura

Todestrieb wrote:

You should just keep playing, with time you will do this a lot less. It's normal when you start. ;)
Begoul : Basically this. It is still too soon to draw any conclusions on your current playstyle since you have been playing for a few days at most. The way you read notes (and how you position yourself to play, hands and body, and a lot more) is most likely to improve as you keep playing. You can perhaps fiddle with the scrolling speed, and if you haven't done it yet, remember to use "Fixed BPM" scrolling speed and not the BPM-scaling one in the options (Just type "BPM" in the Options, you'll get what you are looking for.)
Begoul
Thank you all for the rapid answer . I use "Fixed BPM" only since 3 days I discover it , atm I set it to 17 but I will try to increase this value step by step .
Thanks
fug
Oh god I've been playing for a year and only just realised I'm not meant to follow the notes down. Played today focusing on fixing my eyes in the middle and destroyed a lot of my old scores due to being able to keep up with patterns better 8-)
L0ts0b0ts
I understand that you want to help people with this post, but my problem is that i dont know all of the keys to press. So if you could help me than that would be great! :D
L0ts0b0ts
Oh I just played E-Pro by Beck, and i didnt realize it shows the keys to press... lol :) i have a recording of it and heres the link to it on YouTube.
(its not done editing yet so it will be posted as an edit. right now its 6:15 AM and when its done ill say the time again.)
L0ts0b0ts
Ok the video is done at 6:30 AM so heres the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOAgvgGy6X8
bilzi21
>:(
[nano]Shiroe
i don't understand how can i read burst better, i got an A on space time 7k and 4k but. i just got lucky that time lol.
ChrisGrinder
Thanks ! helped me alot
CelerenTheWolf
I've been at osu!mania for a while and I've hit a major wall due to the speed and I just cannot read fast enough, I usually do 1- 2.3 stars at 21 scroll speed but I can't do any more. One map that shows the gap is "time to air" on KK's 4K hyper difficulty. It's such a jump from previous speeds so I can't read it and I have tried every speed from 9 (too close together to read) up to 19 (much too fast for the difficulty).
The fastest I can go is Water Horizon on 4k basic. Any tips for improving on speed and anything that can bridge this huge gap in speed?
PyaKura
I am not exactly sure what you are asking for.

Do you mean that the song is simply too fast for you and the gap between notes is too narrow that even at a speed you're comfy with you cannot hit them? If so you should just play more and build up speed.

Or do you mean that you can't seem to find the right speed for you on this specific map? You're probably not using fixed scrolling speed. Go into the options, search for "bpm" and (un)tick the only setting that appears.
CelerenTheWolf
What I meant is the speed difference between <2.5 to 2.5+ is just such a big leap and I can't find any middle ground at all. I already set my scroll speed and it's currently 21 for 4k and 17 for 7k.
PyaKura
Star rating is not an accurate representation of actual difficulty, and has got nothing to do with the speed of a song. The best advice I could give you is trying to find slower songs that are still outside of your comfort zone, and try to climb up from there.
Aqo
play slower scroll speed, seriously. you won't learn new patterns from high scroll speed and 21/17 is waaaay too fast for the level of charts you're playing.

try playing 7k with 10 scroll speed for a while. you'll see a lot of improvement after a week of playing.
Jinjin

Aqo wrote:

play slower scroll speed, seriously. you won't learn new patterns from high scroll speed and 21/17 is waaaay too fast for the level of charts you're playing.

try playing 7k with 10 scroll speed for a while. you'll see a lot of improvement after a week of playing.
I agree that slower scroll speeds help with getting used to the patterns at a low level, but scroll speed 10 sounds awfully slow to me. Maybe 15? (considering that this is a fixed scale of course)
CelegaS
i'm a noob and i read/play better at speed 25 than 20 :/
M0STW4NT3D
is this thread still active?? i want ask question :)
Bobbias
Yes, it's still active. The problem is that most people who want to ask questions that should be in this thread never read the thread and post new threads in the forum instead. It's much better if you ask here rather than make a new thread.
M0STW4NT3D
ok my question is:


is that normal if you play a map in one day you get S and the next day you get B (it happens to me most)?? ._.
Wh1teh

M0STW4NT3D wrote:

ok my question is:


is that normal if you play a map in one day you get S and the next day you get B (it happens to me most)?? ._.
Yes, you have to get warmed up properly and that's not possible every day if you for example don't sleep well the night before or have bad eating habits, or stress from work etc.
M0STW4NT3D
wow thx for the response :)

if i play hard map everyday(out of my safe zone) is that help me improve??
PyaKura
This is how most players proceed to improve, yes. By playing maps that are a bit too hard for you regularly will most likely help you improve.
M0STW4NT3D
do you guys have any tips faster improvement on reading notes i'm stuck at 5* diff and can't proceed more ._.??
Bobbias
Try to figure out EXACTLY what is causing the problem and find a solution. For example, sometimes all you need to do is increase your scroll rate and patterns that were hard to read become easier. But sometimes that's not the solution, because the problem was not that the notes were just too close together. This solution is much harder to do, and it's hard to find anyone who can help you figure it out, but it's BY FAR the most effective way to improve.

While you're trying to figure out the exact problem, you can also try things like:
Practice maps that are a little bit too hard for you.
Try using a slower scroll rate (on songs that are not too hard) to try to get better at reading more dense patterns.
etc.

There is no trick that can suddenly make you much better at rhythm games. The most effective way to improve is just to keep playing.
Etsu
omg it looks interesting

I have a lot to learn...
Samuel97
I really need help with Sliders. Started playing for 3 days now and I havent got a single 300 (max) or reg 300 slider. I thought maybe I gotta press a other button and the same time or something but nope. Im not sure if increasing the speed would do it (possibly).
Tips?
Wh1teh

Samuel97 wrote:

I really need help with Sliders. Started playing for 3 days now and I havent got a single 300 (max) or reg 300 slider. I thought maybe I gotta press a other button and the same time or something but nope. Im not sure if increasing the speed would do it (possibly).
Tips?
Play songs that have longnotes that end at the same time with another note and practice lifting your finger right as you tap down another on the same hand.
Garecy
I found that this post really helped me to improve in mania. I also made some friends along the way who are the same rank :3
minibethangel
This guide is so true i'm actually a 4K player I want to practice other keys but its getting hard... I so much improve in 4k but suck in other keys... I dont know if I follow this guide I will be good, bcoz I already started playing without reading this for almost a year now. But I think this guide will be good for people who starting mania but for someone who starts playing already it will be hard :))
DaNsoN soN
nice , :)
CXgaruda
What if i don't want to play other keymodes , what if i only want to play 4k ? :x
Wh1teh

CXgaruda wrote:

What if i don't want to play other keymodes , what if i only want to play 4k ? :x
Just enjoy game.
Yuudachi-kun
4k is the only good key amyways
gintoki147
4k scrubs
M0STW4NT3D
still bad at jumpstream & jumptrill :(
do you guys have any good map about that pattern??
(5.5*+)
mysweetpiano_old
Thanks. I my peak was 2.00 star maps when I first started, and I could only get a B on those max. Only been a few days and I'm at 3.00 stars B-ranks. Slowly but surely, I will get better. Gotta keep a positive mindset.
troke

mysweetpiano wrote:

Thanks. I my peak was 2.00 star maps when I first started, and I could only get a B on those max. Only been a few days and I'm at 3.00 stars B-ranks. Slowly but surely, I will get better. Gotta keep a positive mindset.
nice keep trying :)
gintoki147
How do you guys deal with changes to much slower scroll speeds?
I can't understand shit so I always end up smashing everything in hope of hitting the keys. :C
It's specially awful when the speed changes, but the density doesn't.

Also, if I play songs of my skill level with, say, 19 scrolling speed instead of 24, my accuracy drops from 95% to 80%. It's kinda frustrating. :|
Yuudachi-kun
I edit the map to have no SV changes.
gintoki147
my hero
Bobbias

gintoki147 wrote:

How do you guys deal with changes to much slower scroll speeds?
I can't understand shit so I always end up smashing everything in hope of hitting the keys. :C
It's specially awful when the speed changes, but the density doesn't.

Also, if I play songs of my skill level with, say, 19 scrolling speed instead of 24, my accuracy drops from 95% to 80%. It's kinda frustrating. :|
Handling slowdowns is a difficult skill to learn. I know in o2jam players would often practice at slow speeds until they were able to play well at both low and high speeds. Since I play with flashlight, slowdowns are one of the few things that can completely ruin a map for me (in terms of playability). For example, I can't pass ExPew's Wintersun or Entozer's Oni Kanojo because of the slowdowns. I try not to let it bother me much. I sometimes play maps with slowdowns on nofail just so I can enjoy the map though.
M0STW4NT3D
i guess the best training method for slowdown is to play with slow speed :)
mysweetpiano_old

mysweetpiano wrote:

Thanks. I my peak was 2.00 star maps when I first started, and I could only get a B on those max. Only been a few days and I'm at 3.00 stars B-ranks. Slowly but surely, I will get better. Gotta keep a positive mindset.
Nearly two weeks ago I made this comment and wow, in just two weeks I improved a lot. I'm hitting patterns I never thought I could hit. It's so satisfying. There are days when you just can't seem to hit anything, and THATS OKAY! Don't force yourself because better days will come. The most improtant thing is to keep playing and get used to the notes, even if no immediate improvements show! Have fun!
M0STW4NT3D

mysweetpiano wrote:

mysweetpiano wrote:

Thanks. I my peak was 2.00 star maps when I first started, and I could only get a B on those max. Only been a few days and I'm at 3.00 stars B-ranks. Slowly but surely, I will get better. Gotta keep a positive mindset.
Nearly two weeks ago I made this comment and wow, in just two weeks I improved a lot. I'm hitting patterns I never thought I could hit. It's so satisfying. There are days when you just can't seem to hit anything, and THATS OKAY! Don't force yourself because better days will come. The most improtant thing is to keep playing and get used to the notes, even if no immediate improvements show! Have fun!


Yeah you just need to play everyday :)
Bobbias

mysweetpiano wrote:

mysweetpiano wrote:

Thanks. I my peak was 2.00 star maps when I first started, and I could only get a B on those max. Only been a few days and I'm at 3.00 stars B-ranks. Slowly but surely, I will get better. Gotta keep a positive mindset.
Nearly two weeks ago I made this comment and wow, in just two weeks I improved a lot. I'm hitting patterns I never thought I could hit. It's so satisfying. There are days when you just can't seem to hit anything, and THATS OKAY! Don't force yourself because better days will come. The most improtant thing is to keep playing and get used to the notes, even if no immediate improvements show! Have fun!
That's great! And that's a great way to look at things too. It's ok to recognize when you're having a bad day, but don't let it bother you. Even playing on bad days helps you improve.
DaJoeyElMacho
What if the only problem is I can't match my hands with the beatmap speed?
Bobbias
Your skills won't improve at the same speed, so it's common to run into problems where your speed is holding you back. When that happens, you should try to find maps that are just a little bit too fast to play properly and practice on those.
DaJoeyElMacho

Bobbias wrote:

Your skills won't improve at the same speed, so it's common to rub into problems where your speed is holding you back. When that happens, you should try to find maps that are just a little bit too fast to play properly and practice on those.
Ahh sometimes I just randomly find beatmap and I even don't know its speed xD
Bobbias
Well when you can identify what is holding you back, the next step is to find maps that you can use to practice the skill you have trouble with. It's fine to play random maps, but it won't help you improve as fast as practicing on maps specifically to improve that skill will.
M0STW4NT3D

Bobbias wrote:

Well when you can identify what is holding you back, the next step is to find maps that you can use to practice the skill you have trouble with. It's fine to play random maps, but it won't help you improve as fast as practicing on maps specifically to improve that skill will.
so you need to play the same map over and over again right??
DaJoeyElMacho

Bobbias wrote:

Well when you can identify what is holding you back, the next step is to find maps that you can use to practice the skill you have trouble with. It's fine to play random maps, but it won't help you improve as fast as practicing on maps specifically to improve that skill will.
Okay. I already repeat some beatmap and at the same time it's inspire me to get better at osu!mania, like beatmap Imprinting 4k
Bobbias
No, you shouldn't replay the same map over and over. Playing it a few times is ok, but if you keep playing a map over and over, you will improve your scores on ONLY that map. Even though it looks like you're getting better, you won't see nearly as much improvement on other maps.

The idea is to find as many different maps that all have the kind of patterns you need to practice.
DaJoeyElMacho

Bobbias wrote:

No, you shouldn't replay the same map over and over. Playing it a few times is ok, but if you keep playing a map over and over, you will improve your scores on ONLY that map. Even though it looks like you're getting better, you won't see nearly as much improvement on other maps.

The idea is to find as many different maps that all have the kind of patterns you need to practice.
So you mean repeating same beatmap over and over isn't helping much?
Yuudachi-kun
I repeat the same 150 beatmaps over and over again
Bobbias
Repeating a beatmap causes you to memorize the patterns in that beatmap. When you memorize the patterns, you are no longer learning how to read patterns better when you play that map. You can still get some improvement from playing it, but the improvement will not be as fast as if you didn't replay the same song a lot.

Personally, One of my areas of strength is sightreading beatmaps. When I play a beatmap, chances are I won't play the same one again for a few weeks at least, sometimes I don't replay it for a few months. There are maps I play more often than that, but even then I usually play my favorite maps less than once a week on average.
M0STW4NT3D
well if you play same map over and over again i think use random will help to improve :)
Yuudachi-kun
All random seems to do is reverse the notes?
Bobbias
Random swaps the columns around. So every note on a column will switch to a different column with random. So a pattern like 1234 might become 2134 next time you play it with random.
vinnicci
While i'm fine with speeding up, I tend to avoid beatmaps that slows down scroll speed, is it okay if I skip them? Is there an abundance of them in later levels?
Bobbias
No. Slowdowns are not that common at higher skill levels, but they are still more common than they are at low skill levels. I personally can't play maps with slowdowns at all, because I play with flashlight and have always been really bad at them even before I started using that mod. It does mean there are a few maps I can't play without nofail, but it doesn't bother me too much. If I really enjoy a map, I will sometimes make an edited copy with the slowdown removed.
DJ Profetti
there are always sv slow down pattern in the map above 7 star. actually, very common.especially in o2jam style.
ReTLoM
for slowdowns i usually play the song a few times listen closely to the music, and than i play slow parts "just" by listening to the music feel the rhythm and play what i see cant really describe but it helps me allot to know the song
Yume_no_Yuusha
Thanks for the guide.

I'm really a noob before I see your guide. and now.. I can messed up
with 3~4* in mania. I'm looking to play with you someday.
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