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Ph0X
Fuck to all you fags who fed Activision (:
qlum

Ph0X wrote:

Fuck to all you fags who fed Activision (:
Blizzard hasn't been corrupted by them that much judging from Starcraft II, besides I'm a pirate.
Yes I know you are trying to troll
Xanek
someone buy the game :<
MegaManEXE
I bought the game o.o

I forgot my 3 digit identifier thing though

7-1 in plat right now, should be 8-0 but I was retarded and ran my dudes down a ramp into tanks instead of dropping onto them. Oh well.

Haven't played the campaign, probably not going to.
Mystearica
...

Really. Still had plenty time to finish that game huh? Cute.

This game isn't SC anymore, anyone agree?
Xanek
What makes you say that?
Topic Starter
Ph0X

qlum wrote:

Ph0X wrote:

Fuck to all you fags who fed Activision (:
Blizzard hasn't been corrupted by them that much judging from Starcraft II, besides I'm a pirate.
Yes I know you are trying to troll
No I'm not trolling.
Yes Blizzard has been corrupted (RealID was so close to pass)
And judging from SC2? What are you smoking?

They completely destroyed SC2, and the only good thing it has comes from the community, not from Blizzard.
There was this article about Valve saying that you should see games as services, and tbh, this service is not worth any more than 40$.
People paying for the Collector's Edition make me rage the most though
Xanek
How was it completely destroyed?

And people pay for games because it interests them, so I dont think it really matters if the price is that high for it, unless it was utter crap.
Two_old
Activision is satan and, by extension, Blizzard. I'm not opposed to getting things I want from satan, though.
Topic Starter
Ph0X

Xanek wrote:

How was it completely destroyed?

And people pay for games because it interests them, so I dont think it really matters if the price is that high for it, unless it was utter crap.
No, they pay for it because they've been brainwashed and they are fan boys?
Why did so many people buy mw2? Same reasons. People are retarded.
They get fucked in the ass and they love it.
Pokebis
Ignore Ph0X, he just hates anything popular.
I'm not particularly fond of the $60 price tag, though.
Xanek
most console games start out at $60

also you didn't answer on how it was completely destroyed
Shohei Ohtani

bmin11 wrote:

CDFA wrote:

So I played Starcraft 2 Beta with 3 experienced players without ever playing a Starcraft game before.

I was good until they started attacking me.
That shouldn't be happening. I heard that the new Battle Net matches the player with similar winning rates :?
Replying 3 months late to say that I was with 3 friends at netfragz, playing Left 4 Dead 2, and they were like "OMG BRIAN PLAY STARCRAFT II"

Also I've lost my brother to the game.
Topic Starter
Ph0X

Xanek wrote:

most console games start out at $60
also you didn't answer on how it was completely destroyed
No more lan
no more cross-regional play
60$ again for dlc
can't play with people who have dlc
can't pick server
can't host any map you want
no more /f chatting
no more chat rooms
over priced
you pay 60$ and all you get is terran campaign
you can't play anything if bnet is down or if you don't have internet
and I can keep on going


This is the same problem as with mw2, even though they removed shitload of important stuff (dedicated servers, modding, etc), people still sucked activisions dick and loved the game, not realizing that they're paying more for less.

Of course, you can say that the game is still worth 60$, but imo, it isn't.
The game + the community content might be worth that much, but I refuse to feed money to activision for something the community is building. If you believe in something, you have to stick to it and not pussy out right when the game comes out.

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Gabi
You can't really blame them for removing LAN, or 50% (random number) of the copies wouldn't have been sold. Sure this pisses alot of people off, but as you said there are tons of fanboys that will buy the game anyway.

But i do agree with you
Topic Starter
Ph0X
Anti-Piracy measures should NEVER EVER come in the way of the PAYING customer.
That's my opinion, and I know quite a lot of developers who have the same reasoning,
and every single one of them has the respect of his customers, and doesn't have any piracy issues.
Takuma

CDFA wrote:

Also I've lost my brother to the game.
My brother made me start playing with the trial thing he had. I hate it right now cause I never win, and I've only been playing against A.I.'s! Right now I'm using Protoss, though. It always seems like I'm going at too slow a pace because they always come rape my base early in the game.
Randy96

Ph0X wrote:

Xanek wrote:

most console games start out at $60
also you didn't answer on how it was completely destroyed
No more lan - true
over priced - true
you pay 60$ and all you get is terran campaign - true
you can't play anything if bnet is down or if you don't have internet - you only need it to install the game, not to play it
and I can keep on going
going beyond that, void rays are imba
mosluv

Takuma wrote:

My brother made me start playing with the trial thing he had. I hate it right now cause I never win, and I've only been playing against A.I.'s! Right now I'm using Protoss, though. It always seems like I'm going at too slow a pace because they always come rape my base early in the game.
Are you still on the trial? If not, what's your Name.### on there?! I need someone to play with o:!
MegaManEXE

Ph0X wrote:

Xanek wrote:

most console games start out at $60
also you didn't answer on how it was completely destroyed
No more lan Yeah it sucks but anti-piracy + the new battle.net system explains this, the two problems with no lan are that households have to buy 2 or 3 copies to play with each other and there's no lan for tournaments (though I heard rumors of a "tournament pack" for tournament organizers that would have lan, not sure if those are true or not but since Blizzard teamed up with GOM now in Korea, maybe it will happen since they seem interested in promoting esports). I thought I was going to miss lan because I'm a big DotA player on WC3 and I wanted a listchecker-type of program for SC2, but the way b.net is set up you don't really need a third party program like that (not saying I like their system but it makes listchecker largely useless). Honestly, the only situations people are going to play lan is because of: a. piracy + hamachi, b. tournament (which I mentioned), c. cyber cafe d. rare occasion that two brothers in the same house want to play or something like that, or the even rarer occasion that the whole damn family wants to play. Don't people just bring their computers to LAN parties anyways? So that's not even a valid point since everyone would have their own copies of SC2 anyways. I'd like it if that "Spawn" feature from SC1 came back so you could install it on a friend's computer and have them play with you but oh well.
no more cross-regional play Going to be addressed in the future
60$ again for dlc What? The expansions? Nobody complained about Brood War when that came out, and that offered less content than these expansions are going to have, plus they're not even confirmed to be $60.
can't play with people who have dlc You couldn't do that in SC1+BW or WC3+TFT, I don't see the validity here.
can't pick server I honestly don't have a huge problem with lag playing on the b.net servers, other than the first few days of the game being released. It's not listchecker-esque or iccup launcher type of zero lag, but it's really not that bad, and in SC2 you don't need picture-perfect timing, apm, and accuracy to be good at the game, so if there is some sort of small delay it's negligible. Even the pros have admitted that the game takes less overall effort than Brood War.
can't host any map you want Thought I heard something about them changing the way custom maps work in the future, but I can't quite recall
no more /f chatting Sucks but hopefully they'll address it in a patch when they overhaul the chat system
no more chat rooms Future patch along with clan support
over priced Opinion, I have no problem paying $60 for a game I'll play for hundreds/thousands of hours, rather than paying $60 for a game like FF13 for the 360 that I'll play for 40-50 hours and never play again.
you pay 60$ and all you get is terran campaign I don' t care about campaign at all but I can see how people would complain about this, however everyone I know who's played the campaign has said it is fantastic, even if they are Zerg/Toss players primarily.
you can't play anything if bnet is down or if you don't have internet Not really that big of a deal
and I can keep on going
Sounds like most of the stuff you're complaining about is stuff 90% of the community has been complaining about for over a year now , while the rest is up for debate/minor things that people have come to terms with by now. Coincidentally the stuff that everyone's been complaining about (chat rooms, cross-realm play, custom map system) are all things Blizzard has said they'll address via patches after release.

And if you're going to argue that Blizzard should have fixed all this shit before the game came out, there's no way, they thought it was a good idea and the feedback they got from beta and the community proved otherwise. You can't completely rehaul a game this massive that's been in production for god knows how many years, which is why myself (and others) are fine with the game as it is now and can look forward to it getting "fixed" in the future.

inb4igetcalledablizzardfanboy
Xanek

MegaManEXE wrote:

Ph0X wrote:

SPOILER
No more lan Yeah it sucks but anti-piracy + the new battle.net system explains this, the two problems with no lan are that households have to buy 2 or 3 copies to play with each other and there's no lan for tournaments (though I heard rumors of a "tournament pack" for tournament organizers that would have lan, not sure if those are true or not but since Blizzard teamed up with GOM now in Korea, maybe it will happen since they seem interested in promoting esports). I thought I was going to miss lan because I'm a big DotA player on WC3 and I wanted a listchecker-type of program for SC2, but the way b.net is set up you don't really need a third party program like that (not saying I like their system but it makes listchecker largely useless). Honestly, the only situations people are going to play lan is because of: a. piracy + hamachi, b. tournament (which I mentioned), c. cyber cafe d. rare occasion that two brothers in the same house want to play or something like that, or the even rarer occasion that the whole damn family wants to play. Don't people just bring their computers to LAN parties anyways? So that's not even a valid point since everyone would have their own copies of SC2 anyways. I'd like it if that "Spawn" feature from SC1 came back so you could install it on a friend's computer and have them play with you but oh well.
no more cross-regional play Going to be addressed in the future
60$ again for dlc What? The expansions? Nobody complained about Brood War when that came out, and that offered less content than these expansions are going to have, plus they're not even confirmed to be $60.
can't play with people who have dlc You couldn't do that in SC1+BW or WC3+TFT, I don't see the validity here.
can't pick server I honestly don't have a huge problem with lag playing on the b.net servers, other than the first few days of the game being released. It's not listchecker-esque or iccup launcher type of zero lag, but it's really not that bad, and in SC2 you don't need picture-perfect timing, apm, and accuracy to be good at the game, so if there is some sort of small delay it's negligible. Even the pros have admitted that the game takes less overall effort than Brood War.
can't host any map you want Thought I heard something about them changing the way custom maps work in the future, but I can't quite recall
no more /f chatting Sucks but hopefully they'll address it in a patch when they overhaul the chat system
no more chat rooms Future patch along with clan support
over priced Opinion, I have no problem paying $60 for a game I'll play for hundreds/thousands of hours, rather than paying $60 for a game like FF13 for the 360 that I'll play for 40-50 hours and never play again.
you pay 60$ and all you get is terran campaign I don' t care about campaign at all but I can see how people would complain about this, however everyone I know who's played the campaign has said it is fantastic, even if they are Zerg/Toss players primarily.
you can't play anything if bnet is down or if you don't have internet Not really that big of a deal
and I can keep on going

Sounds like most of the stuff you're complaining about is stuff 90% of the community has been complaining about for over a year now , while the rest is up for debate/minor things that people have come to terms with by now. Coincidentally the stuff that everyone's been complaining about (chat rooms, cross-realm play, custom map system) are all things Blizzard has said they'll address via patches after release.

And if you're going to argue that Blizzard should have fixed all this shit before the game came out, there's no way, they thought it was a good idea and the feedback they got from beta and the community proved otherwise. You can't completely rehaul a game this massive that's been in production for god knows how many years, which is why myself (and others) are fine with the game as it is now and can look forward to it getting "fixed" in the future.

inb4igetcalledablizzardfanboy
^this
dvorak_old
I'm enjoying, but just want to say for blizzard. Custom map and chat system....?

60$ ? really cheap. I will play this game at least 60h / month, so 1h = 1$ , and it will be divided by .
Topic Starter
Ph0X
@MegaManEXE: That IS my point. People have been complaining about these stuff forever, but Blizzard didn't not listen to them at all, and to me, that's like them disrespecting their customers, and I refuse to pay such a company.

Pretty much to half my stuff, you either said that "it sucks but that'st he way it is" or "it's planned in the future". Things like Chat or /f or cross-realm take no effort to implement. And don't forget how big Blizzard is. You know how much money they make? there's over 10million WoW players paying 15$ per month. Do the calculations. Problem is, 99% of that is going into Kotick's pocket, instead of going into their next game and providing a QUALITY SERVICE to you fanboys.

Just adding something on the server picking issues. How do you address stuff like "dota -arem" or other server name information?
Of course, in the beta there was also the problem of new versions of maps having hard time making it up the popularity chart, not sure if that got fixed. But overall, it gives power to popular maps and leaves the less known people gayed on the bottom. It's pretty much hierarchy of a society, but in a game.

Last thing. Like you said, no one gives a shit about the campaign, the games still not balanced according to some people, and there's all this stuff that "will hopefully be added in the future". So for a second, just forget about all the custom maps, and just imagine the BASE game that you get, with all those missing features, and try imagining how much THAT is worth. Because THAT's what blizzard gave you, and to me, it's worth less than 40 or even 30.
Randy96
Wait 10 years for Starcraft 2 Battlechest.
Topic Starter
Ph0X

Randy96 wrote:

Wait 10 years for Starcraft 2 Battlechest.
Or couple months until multiplayer gets cracked, and updated with full server support, so I can laugh at all you people who got fucked in the ass paying 60$ and not even getting lan-support, just to get rid of pirates, and all that for nothing.

And then, I'll just point to Valve, sit back and look at all the fanboys raging.
qlum

Ph0X wrote:

Randy96 wrote:

Wait 10 years for Starcraft 2 Battlechest.
Or couple months until multiplayer gets cracked, and updated with full server support, so I can laugh at all you people who got fucked in the ass paying 60$ and not even getting lan-support, just to get rid of pirates, and all that for nothing.

And then, I'll just point to Valve, sit back and look at all the fanboys raging.
like I do with mw2 but the thing I don't understand is that people play it so hardcore while its really a casual game
Takuma
@Nexy I only have 6 minutes left, lmfao. I asked my brother to buy it for me though.
mosluv
Kinda retarded name is pandabun?! When you get it, tell me or add me Nexy.899 o:!
Randy96
to anyone who cares, my IGN is Randy
you might catch me playing nexus wars or sotis

just beware that I've obtained the nickname of Lagfest Randy
Takuma

Nexy wrote:

Kinda retarded name is pandabun?! When you get it, tell me or add me Nexy.899 o:!
penis
also i got the game ^__^
Nharox
Hey guys, guys! I have an idea, let's talk about the game and ignore Ph0x. Too late. I mean seriously, why do you bitch about the game so bad?

60$ again for dlc. Source? Expansions are usually cheaper.
can't play with people who have dlc. Oh wow, this is something completely new.
can't pick server. I don't see the problem here. You can choose the map you want to play and team up with buddies.
can't host any map you want. You can.
overpriced. Isn't that normal in the US? To be honest Starcraft 2 was cheap for only 37€ if you ask me.
you pay 60$ and all you get is terran campaign. And the MP part + challenges + achievements. It's just as long as the three campaigns from SC1 combined with nice variety.
you can't play anything if bnet is down or if you don't have internet. Might happen but the servers seems to be stable.

You should get your facts right first before judging about something. The only thing I agree with are the chat rooms and cross-regional play but they said that they are going to add it. And no, I'm not a Blizzard fanboy.

Anyway, I love the game so far. I'm currently 1vs1 silver, 2vs2 gold and 3vs3 silver. Still playing around with different tactics with my main race Protoss. Btw. Void Ray Rush is mean. :( Anybody from EU here who plays?
Takuma
ATTENTION: Nexy is a bitch.
Gabi

Nharox wrote:

Hey guys, guys! I have an idea, let's talk about the game and ignore Ph0x. Too late. I mean seriously, why do you bitch about the game so bad?

*argue facts argue*
lol xD

this isn't gonna end
Topic Starter
Ph0X

Nharox wrote:

Hey guys, guys! I have an idea, let's talk about the game and ignore Ph0x. Too late. I mean seriously, why do you bitch about the game so bad?
Hey, I never forced anyone to argue with me, and I didn't start arguing either. I just pointed out that you people were feeding a company that doesn't deserve your money (in my opinion), and people asked me for my thoughts, and I just provided them. If they don't want to continue arguing, then stop replying to my posts (which they did), and I won't reply! (which I was doing)
Xanek
actually you did start arguing...
Topic Starter
Ph0X

Ph0X wrote:

I just pointed out that you people were feeding a company, and people asked me for my thoughts

Ph0X wrote:

Fuck to all you fags who fed Activision (:

Xanek wrote:

What makes you say that?
Sorry, I realize that this could've easily been pointed to any other post, but at that time, I didn't realize this, whatever.
Nharox

Gabi wrote:

lol xD

this isn't gonna end
I wanted to strike that part. Wops. :?

Oh well, how do I know if a company deserves the money? Most people don't care (like me) as long as they deliver a good product. And yes, you DID start arguing. don't deny it. :P
Shinde

pandabun wrote:

ATTENTION: Nexy is a sexy bitch.
Fixed.

I need to buy SC2 still. *lazy* Want to go back to getting owned in 2vs2 Plats with Nexy. 8) I'm so cheap though I hate buying games for $60. I'm also mildly disappointed with Blizzard.

I'm looking forward to checking out the Single Player, but I'll be buying it for the ladder plus user content. SC2 ruined my SC1 macro though. :(
Xanek

Shinde wrote:

SC2 ruined my SC1 macro though. :(
^this
Topic Starter
Ph0X

Nharox wrote:

as long as they deliver a good product
Which they didn't
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