CookieKivi wrote:

When can we mod this.

I suspect an ETA of between 8 to 10 days!

Would it be ok if I do a guest diff for Your Worst Nightmare? sounds like a fun song map

Arphimigon wrote:

I'm planning to map the entire marathon by myself

Also for some reason I cut YWN... better add the rest back soon.
But yeah I really don't want GDs as pretty much every GD I've ever gotten completely goes against my ways of mapping in some way or another.

arph ur popular famous ok i dont know anymore gg

diraimur wrote:

arph ur popular famous ok i dont know anymore gg

ur friendly neighbourhood spiderman arphimigod

I never like thinking of Sans in this route as it's pretty much all your/my fault. Cri.

You see a mod
It fills you with DISAPPOINTMENT when you read it

HITSOUNDING. I know its in the description but I wanted to say it again. Also, everything is too loud in general imo
No Kiai? Those might be nice or smth

00:07:738 - DS?
01:09:746 - This section is kinda uncreative and slow and boring
02:08:163 - SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Burst. Im not burst expert, but this is in fact a burst that is really fast and imo I dont feel it flows well with the song. Same goes for othere SCREEE bursts
02:16:863 - Strange direction here. Is this supposed to be a curve?
02:34:263 - Slider curveture
03:44:111 - Ohgod ok ds?
05:39:650 - feels a bit intense but what do I know?
05:40:866 - ^ for this star and other stars
05:41:271 - I am no mapper, but this is just slider 2fast sanicfast what the hell please remove this! Looks WAY too gimmicky and gimmicks seem a bit wierd 5 minutes into a 16 minute marathon. Especially slider breaking funtimes
05:46:136 - The intensity
08:39:726 - I know the song slowed down but this is a bit much imo with the ar
09:23:290 - Doko would be proud
09:36:705 - This looks like an easy note you would completely disregard without missing on it once already
10:55:494 - Ow my ears ow ow why 1/16 all of a sudden?
11:19:360 - This whole song is a very strong difficulty reduction despite intensity of song and the importance of this song in the game plot. I dont know how to make this harder, but I think it should be
11:48:710 - 12:05:230 - 13 seconds of boring IMO. and in a boring song
13:55:247 - sorry but I think this slider can look better
14:16:734 - IF you take out EVERYTHING before this, you still end up with 6.55 out of 6.66* just from this megalovania. That honestly tells me that most of the stars is here with these 240bpm jumps. I think that is a major issue. Buff everything else or nerf this.

IDEA FOR SB
So like, in the storyboard, you have make the Frisk that the song most accurately represents in mood in the background like up a bit and make everything else dim a bit. Like the first song you have the red one light up and the others dim a bit, in the break they all go to the same lightedness, then in the next song at 01:48:909 you can have the green one (or the blue one if you want to be canon) and so on and so forth. The colors can be used more than once.

Alternitively, you can make the Frisks light up to indicate the difficulty of the section (because they widely vary) in the same way as the light up in mood of song scenario. I think it is an amazing idea imo.

Mod end

Hpocks wrote:

You see a mod
It fills you with DISAPPOINTMENT when you read it

HITSOUNDING. I know mate, about it being loud, I also know.
No Kiai? I don't want to add kiai really, it'd highlight important pars sure but it'd be weird over multiple maps.

00:07:738 - DS? Don't want them touching and slight distance imo is good for start note pressure however i reduced a bit
01:09:746 - This section is kinda uncreative and slow and boring not much I can do about it, the song at that point doesnt need flashy creative stuff or fast stuff
02:08:163 - SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Burst. Im not burst expert, but this is in fact a burst that is really fast and imo I dont feel it flows well with the song. Same goes for othere SCREEE bursts Having a hold there would have NO pressure either! Those parts are a key point to how the map plays, if not the MOST important.
02:16:863 - Strange direction here. Is this supposed to be a curve? It is, but it IS a bit wide, reducing!
02:34:263 - Slider curveture I like the look of this and having a larger curve wouldn't represent any sound so I'll leave this.
03:44:111 - Ohgod ok ds? its the same as 03:43:589 (6,7) - but with a slider jump instead, i think it highlights the intensity more as there is pressuring lead sounds AND the drum
05:39:650 - feels a bit intense but what do I know? I'm nerfing this part completely, I keep dying on these and FCing a lot of the "meant to be harder" parts too
05:40:866 - ^ for this star and other stars the stars are purposefully jumpy and challenging because of the variance of pitches and to be a better transition instead of flow movement (snappy is easier to move out of) so I'd rather keep the stars.
05:41:271 - I am no mapper, but this is just slider 2fast sanicfast what the hell please remove this! Looks WAY too gimmicky and gimmicks seem a bit wierd 5 minutes into a 16 minute marathon. Especially slider breaking funtimes
I need to explain this for future modders: The maps in these represent the characters/fights of which they come from a lot as well as the songs themselves, I decided to make this part all about being flashy and dramatic, hence the fast sliders and NC spam, as it suits Mettatons style. I believe the song should be mapped with this in mind.
05:46:136 - The intensity ^
08:39:726 - I know the song slowed down but this is a bit much imo with the ar 0.9 to 0.7 is like 75% speed, thats a normal reduction to me, I'll see what others think
09:23:290 - Doko would be proud lol
09:36:705 - This looks like an easy note you would completely disregard without missing on it once already I agree, I just cant find a good alternative. I'll think of something!
10:55:494 - Ow my ears ow ow why 1/16 all of a sudden? LOL OK 1/8 sorry about your ears!
11:19:360 - This whole song is a very strong difficulty reduction despite intensity of song and the importance of this song in the game plot. I dont know how to make this harder, but I think it should be I disagree, I think the song represents freedom, and being grateful. I think it should be a peaceful experience. Also, ASGORE is much easier!
11:48:710 - 12:05:230 - 13 seconds of boring IMO. and in a boring song It's many peoples favourite and one of the most important songs so I cant just cut this, also I like the slowdown of this and the punchiness of the sounds. Makes it stick out more.
13:55:247 - sorry but I think this slider can look better I agree! Sadly I can't make good ones. I'll keep this suggestion in mind and play with shapes for this, but I can't change it right now cus I suck.
14:16:734 - IF you take out EVERYTHING before this, you still end up with 6.55 out of 6.66* just from this megalovania. That honestly tells me that most of the stars is here with these 240bpm jumps. I think that is a major issue. Buff everything else or nerf this.
If you remove Megalovania and have everything else before it, you have 6.24SR. Your Best Nightmare is around 6.1, Spider Dance is 5.9 and Death By Glamour is 5.77, I think these SRs fit the songs perfectly. If we are going by themes from the game/characters, Megalovania should indeed be the hardest difficulty in the song as well and by a long shot.

IDEA FOR SB
So like, in the storyboard, you have make the Frisk that the song most accurately represents in mood in the background like up a bit and make everything else dim a bit. Like the first song you have the red one light up and the others dim a bit, in the break they all go to the same lightedness, then in the next song at 01:48:909 you can have the green one (or the blue one if you want to be canon) and so on and so forth. The colors can be used more than once.
Actually, most bosses have a particular trait/colour to them. Like how Mettaton is yellow (Justice) as it relates to the shooting mechanism which you only use on him, and Muffet has purple for patience which is only in her fight. Mood is okay, but lighting up which colour goes with the boss would be much cooler.

Great first check, thanks!

ok, what are those sliders in death by glamour!?
i couldn't follow them on an 800x600 screen....
pls nerf

also, you said you wanted it, so here's a slider


just delete the one you have, and append this to the hitobjects in your .osu file (anywhere that isn't intercepting something else)
160,328,835247,2,0,B|88:320|72:244|140:160|140:160|232:224|284:136|336:256|336:256|372:292|408:264,1,525

SuperMinun wrote:

ok, what are those sliders in death by glamour!?

just delete the one you have, and append this to the hitobjects in your .osu file (anywhere that isn't intercepting something else)
160,328,835247,2,0,B|88:320|72:244|140:160|140:160|232:224|284:136|336:256|336:256|372:292|408:264,1,525

thanks for the slider! also dw im nerfing death by glamour to around 2.5 or 3x SV soon

I'm going to be dropping play-based mods on each of these where I find I'm troubled by something, and a test play if you like, but I can't really do 220+ so the last map would look bad if I play it.... Anyway here's some stuff that disturbs me on the Papyrus theme

1. The SV throughout the map, it just feels off, like, it just feels sluggish throughout the entire thing, I'm not sure if this is just me being weird though
2. The high OD and AR hurt this part of the map, and many others aswell, I'd say you should keep the AR but lower the OD to like 9 to atleast make it so that casual scrubs like myself can A the (entire) map: :>
3. The 1/8 streams, I know they fit the song, but they don't fit the intensity of this part of the map... I'm sure you were expecting someone to comment on this sooner or later, I mean come on, it's basically 300 bpm out of nowhere...

That's it for this song...

Brimroth wrote:

1. The SV throughout the map, it just feels off, like, it just feels sluggish throughout the entire thing, I'm not sure if this is just me being weird though
I don't actually mind going through the map and increasing the SV actually as long as the "snappy" theme is still there
2. The high OD and AR hurt this part of the map, and many others aswell, I'd say you should keep the AR but lower the OD to like 9 to atleast make it so that casual scrubs like myself can A the (entire) map: :>
meh 9.5 is overkill I shouldve made it 9 earlier on anyway
3. The 1/8 streams, I know they fit the song, but they don't fit the intensity of this part of the map... I'm sure you were expecting someone to comment on this sooner or later, I mean come on, it's basically 300 bpm out of nowhere...
ya but then theres no fun! also idk i think it fits papyrus's shouty and overdone nature

bop

quick note; those streams in your worst nightmare are kinda REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
in that they move so fast you can't SS them without some sort of program to up your dpi higher than windows settings

SuperMinun wrote:

quick note; those streams in your worst nightmare are kinda REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
in that they move so fast you can't SS them without some sort of program to up your dpi higher than windows settings

Sorry but this must be due to your hardware, I cant nerf this part because of that. I know a few people who can hit all the parts in this.

Arphimigon wrote:

SuperMinun wrote:

quick note; those streams in your worst nightmare are kinda REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
in that they move so fast you can't SS them without some sort of program to up your dpi higher than windows settings

Sorry but this must be due to your hardware, I cant nerf this part because of that. I know a few people who can hit all the parts in this. Interesting. I'll grab a new mouse next time I'm at the store.

Also, can you somewhat nerf spider dance (less 1/2 circle spam)
the sliders can stay. just remove like every 3rd circle or something

I mapped it to the music as much as possible, that means sadly there is gonna be a lot of 1/2 spam.
Yeeee I'm not nice to new players in my maps, but I'm pretty strict in my sense of rhythms.

PS: The comment "nerf because I can't play" pretty much annoys all mappers, good or bad, new or old.

dem, 3 pages and 2 mods... I wanted to post "3 pages, 0 mods lolololol" D:

Technically only one was a proper mod and the other was just some opinionsssss

Alright, time to shank the Mettaton theme a bit:

05:01:947 (1,2,3,1) - This pattern breaks in my brain for some reason, I'd move 3 down a bit to make it flow better, since this is the first part with any real spacing, players should be given time to get used to the spacing and all that.
05:42:893 (1,1,1,1) - Overlapping hurts, if you intend on keeping this thing, atleast rotate the last 2 around a bit
06:09:447 (4,5) - This might just be me not being able to read anything, but the slider should totally rotate in the other direction.

Really fun to play in general though.

Beta-Flowey:
09:29:284 (7,8,9,10,1) - This stream turns different than the others, different enough to be noticed when played.
10:04:257 (2,3,4) - Get these 1/8s out of here, I mean come on, this isn't Papyrus theme where it fits his trolly nature, this is the theme of fellow souls you're trying to save, they wouldn't be dicks enough to put a surprise 1/8 triple in here, they'd leave it to be something easy and playable, like a 1/4 slidertriple...
10:09:310 (2,3,4) - ^

Beta-flowey feels so good to play too. Really nice work here. Will post mods on the rest as I feel like it...

Brimroth wrote:

Mettaton theme:
05:01:947 (1,2,3,1) - This pattern breaks in my brain for some reason, I'd move 3 down a bit to make it flow better, since this is the first part with any real spacing, players should be given time to get used to the spacing and all that. eh i made it a little easier on the snapping and spacing
05:42:893 (1,1,1,1) - Overlapping hurts, if you intend on keeping this thing, atleast rotate the last 2 around a bit changed a bunch of blegh in this part of the map
06:09:447 (4,5) - This might just be me not being able to read anything, but the slider should totally rotate in the other direction. made it easier to hit but that direction was intentional

Beta-Flowey:
09:29:284 (7,8,9,10,1) - This stream turns different than the others, different enough to be noticed when played. its like that on purpose cus mah patterns xd but srsly i dont think it hurts too much play-wise, it just looks different
10:04:257 (2,3,4) - Get these 1/8s out of here, I mean come on, this isn't Papyrus theme where it fits his trolly nature, this is the theme of fellow souls you're trying to save, they wouldn't be dicks enough to put a surprise 1/8 triple in here, they'd leave it to be something easy and playable, like a 1/4 slidertriple... no, this about flowey, and flowey wants to kill you over and over in any way possible
10:09:310 (2,3,4) - ^ ^

Rip cant kds

OK I think there shouldn't be many more mp3 edits, also the map ends on a nicely done 420mil so memes

Double Posting for self-mod

git gud nubs
Amazing and beautiful map, so much fun to play, worth the 16mins of my life. If this goes to graveyard I'll find Arphi irl and stab him until ranked

replay (02-05-2016 mm-dd-yyyy): http://puu.sh/mXa0e/a4b6d70c1a.osr

HighTec wrote:

If this goes to graveyard I'll find Arphi irl and stab him until ranked

sry mate i wont be able to get enough ppl to mod 16 min map AND get BNs to rank it
its simply too long and hard for a 1 ranked mapper to try
unless you know BNs that'd rank this ofc, then its for grave eventually

UNTIL THE LETS MEME

I'm going to mod like a song per day or week or idk since I'm lazy modder, don't kds the future ones (obv)
so here is the first one

00:19:390 (1) - remove nc since u removed on 00:20:896 (6) -
00:22:403 (1) - remove dis nc too for consistency
00:25:415 (1) - ^
00:26:921 (1) - ^
00:24:662 (1) - imo 2 circles but idk i succ
00:55:038 (1) - why is dis nc'd while 00:56:545 (2) - and 01:13:114 (2) - and 01:14:620 (2) - arent
01:00:813 (6) - why isnt dis nc'd while 00:56:419 (1) - and 01:12:863 (1) - and 01:14:495 (1) - are
01:40:980 (4) - ctrl+right
01:47:507 (1) - ctrl+right, ctrl+down
01:47:884 (2) - ctrl+rightx2, ctrl+downx2

k im done here /me flies

diraimur wrote:

00:19:390 (1) - remove nc since u removed on 00:20:896 (6) - pattern emphasis! patterns! besides my HP is lowered to account for stupid NCing
00:22:403 (1) - remove dis nc too for consistency idk i guess this feels more legit to me ok
00:25:415 (1) - ^ ok
00:26:921 (1) - ^ nope this is meant to be there
00:24:662 (1) - imo 2 circles but idk i succ too confusing to sightread imo idk
00:55:038 (1) - why is dis nc'd while 00:56:545 (2) - and 01:13:114 (2) - and 01:14:620 (2) - arent
01:00:813 (6) - why isnt dis nc'd while 00:56:419 (1) - and 01:12:863 (1) - and 01:14:495 (1) - are idk
01:40:980 (4) - ctrl+right i dont see why but i did smth else that should do whatever u wanted me to do there anyway
01:47:507 (1) - ctrl+right, ctrl+down did smth along those lines
01:47:884 (2) - ctrl+rightx2, ctrl+downx2 ok dad

filthy kds farmer (^:

welp. tired af. but i want to mod that.
~
00:07:842 (3,4) - Change it. People wil have problems to read dis since this is really unpredicted n' stuff. Maybe like this. not exactly like this. but something like this ok
00:18:637 (1,2,3,4,5) - just wanted to say that i love that patterns
http://puu.sh/n0MZf.png 65% pls
The patterns at spider dance are hard to read, but do you know what? i like it. and it fits spider dance purrfect.
btw, do you want some tea?

03:53:606 Its so empty.

04:56:578 (4,5,6,7,8) - Do the streams there really fit? Idk.. they were there so.. unexpected. maybe make sum other patterns. mind this for every stream until here 05:02:051

05:40:970- I can't mod sumthin like that.. welp.
.. i hope this helped. sorry that i didn't modded more.

CookieKivi wrote:

welp. tired af. but i want to mod that.
~
00:07:842 (3,4) - Change it. People wil have problems to read dis since this is really unpredicted n' stuff. Maybe like this. not exactly like this. but something like this ok aaaah i dont know, 3 IS more emphasised than 4 imo and it feels weirder putting them closer, i'll need more time to think of what i want to do here
00:18:637 (1,2,3,4,5) - just wanted to say that i love that patterns
http://puu.sh/n0MZf.png 65% pls oops
The patterns at spider dance are hard to read, but do you know what? i like it. and it fits spider dance purrfect. lol thats the first person who has had trouble readin the patterns there xd
btw, do you want some tea?

03:53:606 Its so empty. purposeful

04:56:578 (4,5,6,7,8) - Do the streams there really fit? Idk.. they were there so.. unexpected. maybe make sum other patterns. mind this for every stream until here 05:02:051 again like the first point, i'm not really sure what i wanna do here. At the beginning of every song I allow the player to get used to the metronome in order to understand what speed theyll be playing at though, so for now imma keep dis

05:40:970- I can't mod sumthin like that.. welp. LOL and this is the nerfed ver

bop

m4m (obv not grinding kd too xddd)

just picking random things that I find
01:57:867 (6,1) - little too far apart for a 1/4 jump
02:00:267 (2,3) - ^
02:08:267 (3,4,5,6,7) - rotate this a bit more towards 02:08:667 (8) - , improves flow a little
02:26:267 (5,6,7) - let this spread a little more (its only 150bpm and easier to read this way), same goes for 02:39:067 (5,6,7) -
02:34:267 (5,6,7,8) - jumps suit the situation better imo
02:42:667 (6) - maybe there is a better option for this? (maybe bend it a little like 02:43:067 (1) - )
02:47:467 (4) - NC?

03:44:215 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - the close spacing makes it very misleading, jumps may happen here :^)
04:16:041 (5) - NC?
04:24:389 (5) - ^

05:02:051 (1,2,3) - little too incosistent spacing
05:04:889 (4,5) - too much of a good thing (1/4 jump)
05:46:240 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - maybe decrease spacing just a little, this is a bit too extreme, same for 05:59:213 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -
06:19:483 (5) - idk is this rankable?

09:27:809 (5) - this slider is heading the wrong way :v
09:52:440 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - wouldnt it be better to go jump vertically first?
10:27:809 (1) - not really creative anymore with the triples, they dont all have to be triangles right
10:32:072 (3,5,7) - and 10:37:125 (3,5,7) - incosistent spacing?
maybe make the ending of the flowey theme a little jumpier

the rest is too perfect for me to complain about, other than saying that the end of megalovania is undermapped :>

HighTec wrote:

01:57:867 (6,1) - little too far apart for a 1/4 jump
02:00:267 (2,3) - ^ I like both of these but i'll change cus ya
02:08:267 (3,4,5,6,7) - rotate this a bit more towards 02:08:667 (8) - , improves flow a little I disagree with the rotation but the curve is too large rn imma change thatnvrmnd changess
02:26:267 (5,6,7) - let this spread a little more (its only 150bpm and easier to read this way), same goes for 02:39:067 (5,6,7) - nooooooo i dont think the spreading of them fit here imo idk why it just doesnt feel right
02:34:267 (5,6,7,8) - jumps suit the situation better imo but thats 1/8 wat can i do xd
02:42:667 (6) - maybe there is a better option for this? (maybe bend it a little like 02:43:067 (1) - ) curve adds emphasis to high pitchd sound
02:47:467 (4) - NC? why not

03:44:215 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - the close spacing makes it very misleading, jumps may happen here :^) its near impossible to misread this due to the 1/4 sliders, if there are short sliders its almost guaranteed you are gonna read them as 1/4 taps especially if many come up at once
04:16:041 (5) - NC? doesnt follow the NCing scheme
04:24:389 (5) - ^ ^

05:02:051 (1,2,3) - little too incosistent spacing purposeful for the sake of adding a buildup to the next, more powerful section and to introduce the spaced 1/4s that'll come up later in an easier case
05:04:889 (4,5) - too much of a good thing (1/4 jump) leniency abu- ok ill think of smth
05:46:240 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - maybe decrease spacing just a little, this is a bit too extreme, same for 05:59:213 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - NEVER! WE NEED SPACING! ok 90%
06:19:483 (5) - idk is this rankable? prob not, its completely readable though. gotta change

09:27:809 (5) - this slider is heading the wrong way :v no its not
09:52:440 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - wouldnt it be better to go jump vertically first? they are vertical!
10:27:809 (1) - not really creative anymore with the triples, they dont all have to be triangles right dis isnt even about creativity, its about overdone spacing and repetitivity, like flowey!
10:32:072 (3,5,7) - and 10:37:125 (3,5,7) - incosistent spacing? nop they are the same
maybe make the ending of the flowey theme a little jumpier lol but its literally jump spam

thnx
i'll likely need to look over some of the rejected points again, idk if im rejecting them for good reasons or not

idk if you already know it but the new rules have been changed, you don't need to make another diff anymore

p/4893560 (check lastest post)

I noticed, just havent updatd

Will you be adding Battle Against A True Hero?

DiscoTheBudgie wrote:

Will you be adding Battle Against A True Hero?

I tried mapping that, and spear of justice, but both were unmappable and boring to play. So no, this will have to do without.

Arphimigon wrote:

DiscoTheBudgie wrote:

Will you be adding Battle Against A True Hero?

I tried mapping that, and spear of justice, but both were unmappable and boring to play. So no, this will have to do without.


Oh,ok.

knowing that one day you will finish modding this map
it fills your pants with determination









WOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH good luck!
time taken: 2 hours

Anxient wrote:

knowing that one day you will finish modding this map
it fills your pants with determination

heartbreak
prove to me you are strong enough to survive.

00:13:867 (5) - flip this slider (ctrl h) and move it to 470:105. plays more smoothly that way. also looks less shit ;D http://puu.sh/na0fX/fa7a9fd87a.jpg sure, good idea
00:20:645 (5,6) - since all the transitions between the singletaps go up, why not do the same with this instead of going perfectly horizontal http://puu.sh/na0fy/0bb5fc9dde.jpg had to redo the pattern a little to get it to work with my symettry, but works now
00:34:453 (3) - ctrl g this, for emphasis plays like shit imo, i'll space it more instead
00:34:704 (4,5) - ctrl g these two as well http://puu.sh/na0lx/76d9a17712.jpg plays alot better imho :l meh i changed the patter to fit nicer but WHOA NO THAT DOES NOT PLAY BETTER WHOA
00:40:980 (5,2) - avoidable overlap. ctrl h slider (5) and put it back in that stack. it should fix it. http://puu.sh/na0s7/ed6c7bf1e4.jpg, http://puu.sh/na0sJ/3efc15b366.jpg how do ppl even notice these things
00:51:775 (1) - consider moving it here 390:322, coz this note represents a low pitch note. also the hitcircle not following the direction of the previous slider gives more emphasis! ;D http://puu.sh/na0yw/ab035ba0e7.jpg unnecessary, actually its the opposite of what i wanted. this sound is VERY weak, no drums or important instruments, so i made it easy to hit on purpose with low spacing. if anything, i just reduced it :^)
00:59:055 (5,6) - ctrl g this so that 00:59:306 (1) - gets the emphasis it deserves http://puu.sh/na0FG/e7d92f0c78.jpg whoa that removes consistency from ALL other cases of this, also that sudden spacing isnt needed as the slider doesnt start on a very strong sound, all the notes in this song are meant to flow simply to each other
01:01:189 - i recomemnd you to make this 01:01:064 (1) - slider 1/2 and a hitcircle so that the beat you ignored with a slidertrack gets represented properly. http://puu.sh/na0LC/e8c0a125fd.jpg, http://puu.sh/na0M3/a151c88ac9.jpg doesnt follow the obvious instrument, which is.. what i map to ;-; i feel it removes the simplicity of the map and song, and adding sounds to things that arent in the obvious reduces the sad atmosphere since it'll be more hectic
01:05:582 (2) - flip this note with ctrl h magic and fix blanket. it helps align the slider track to the next note better. more intuitive = neater = everyone happier http://puu.sh/na0PK/896131302b.jpg ssure, even though there wasnt a blanket beforehand
01:13:114 (2) - same as the 1/2 mod. same as the 1/2 mod
01:19:390 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - stack better WOW OK HOW DO PEOPLE NOTICE THESE THINGS WAT 2 PIXELS FROM SO FAR AWAY
01:24:913 (1) - place in 21:81 coz it needs more emphasis than THAT. http://puu.sh/na0W1/bf48b2a7f3.jpg no, it needs EVEN LESS (see the old comment where i reduced spacing when u told me to increase)
01:28:302 (2) - you missed a good opportunity to ctrl g this. it has the emphasis. and the flow. please. idk about this, i wanted a little variety and this doesnt really seem out of place, ctrl-ging seems like its gonna emphasise too much
01:28:679 (3) - place this in 415:336, for emphasis 413*and that 01:27:926 (1,3) - sexy blanket yAYAhttp://puu.sh/na0Zx/c8236300f9.jpg
01:47:507 (1,2) - stack properlyit keeps reverting the fk

bonetrousle
you're blue now. thats my attack!

01:57:867 (6) - why no silence slider end Im gonna silence them all
01:59:067 (3,4,5,6) - try remaking this jump to be like this, rn it feels uncomfortable to play imo http://puu.sh/na1mH/792140f245.jpg mine abuses sexy pitches and snappiness like mr spaghetti himself, i think it fits much better
02:04:167 - i think the 300bpm triple is too sudden. use a slider instead. NYEH HEH HEH
02:08:267 (3,4,5,6,7) - 300bpm 5hit stream. wtf man use sliders. it also looks really out of place since the entire song part is easy :L thats the quirk of the map tho, im really keen on keepin the 1/8
02:14:667 (2,1) - stack pls fookin ell bruh ok
02:16:967 (6,7) - same here its stacked here on my end
02:21:067 (2,3,4,5,6) - aaaaaaaaaand here.depends im thinking about this, but i dont wana change it and basically kill the theme of the map
02:23:067 (5) - this flowbreak doesnt make sense. its uncomfortable to play even tho the part links. ctrl g+h this please. it makes perfect sense BECAUSE it links, i'm abusing common screen-zoning play here, this is amzinghttp://puu.sh/na1yi/f77571831a.jpg. do what is necessary so that the next note doesnt play like shit. also i wanna note that urs in testplay feels weirder to me idk why asdf shit
ok since this is a recurring problem, i recommend you to change all 1/8 streams, triples into sliders coz imo, they dont represent bonetrousle very well. recurring PROBLEM my ass dis is only burst and its the only reason this is worth playin', also its PAPYRUS and papyrus is trolly and shit (or at least tries to be) so i wana keep them 1/8s
02:30:067 - map this beat lol invisible sound where ALL instruments stop and the background noise fades? ;-;
02:34:367 (7) - shorten slider to red tick. that feels plain weird, i dont know how to fix the gap at 02:34:567 - without overmappin invisible beats then
02:47:467 (1) - just make this into a hitcircle. nothing in the song indicates a use for 1/8 sliders. you know EXACTLY why this is here, also as a note it feels lammmmme for that end sound yknow what i mean?

spider dance
don't look so blue, my deary~ ...i think purple is a better look on you! ahuhuhu~

02:57:519 (2) - ctrl g this for more smooth flow. i mean, why not right? plays better too. spider dance is all about the snaps, fits the music better
02:58:432 (2) - place this in 339:295 so that the distance between 3 slider end and 4 is about the same http://puu.sh/na1Ux/0a62eaebb1.jpg sure why not
03:05:215 (4,5,6) - make this gradually spaced out to indicate incoming intensity o god this could end up so bad idk what to do ok i did ssmth
03:06:258 (4) - make this more spaced out so that 03:06:389 (5) - gets the emphasis it deserves moved both 03:05:867 (2,4) -
03:07:171 (4,5,6) - ey boss make perfect triangle thats meant to be a triangle? no its meant to be a harsher snap than that sry
03:20:215 (1) - ctrl g WAY TOO MUCH EMPHASIS SORRY i cant do that, this is more of a transition period with the next few sliders
03:20:737 (2) - 03:21:258 (3) - do the same as the above assuming you applied it.
03:31:693 (1) - ctrl g for flow break. seems like a good idea. emphasis? check. song beat change? check. ctrl-ging was way too anti-flow if you know what i mean, but i made it more pressuring
03:38:476 (3) - cltr g. feels more natural to me. no ctrl-g is natural to me, i'll see if anyone else thinks the same
03:39:389 - theres a beat here. use it lol. feels empty without it. after all those taps, i think a small break in spam tapping is good, also if there IS any beat (which i dont hear on 100%) its not audible to the ear as an obvious sound, and thats all i map to
03:43:171 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - THAT DIFFSPIKE LMAO LOL WHAT ELSE COULD I DO
03:45:258 (1) - ctrl g this coz the cursor would instantly move here instead of your current position. no it wouldnt ;-;
03:45:519 (2) - assuming you applied the above mod, move this note over to 03:46:824 (5) - sliderend. for emphasis. http://puu.sh/na2gx/7a89724676.jpg
03:54:128 - at least map this note.done!
03:54:650 (1,2,3) - man use more ds lol. intensity change is so underwhelming. heres what i did. http://puu.sh/na2nR/f9931faed7.jpg that looks bad, and the overlap seems unneccesary, i prefer what i have now. also lack of drums = low spacing
04:13:171 (6) - ctrl g man. feels more natural, which is kinda important imo in a double bpm map you arent following the curves here are ya? thatd feel terrible in play!
04:13:432 (1) - ctrl g this as well
04:13:693 (2,3) - relocate these notes so they look like this if you applied the above 2 mods http://puu.sh/na2st/769cfd0f15.jpg

death by glamour
i'll make your last living moments... ABSOLUTELY beautiful!

05:04:483 (3) - place it in here. plays tons better: 138;178 http://puu.sh/na2Gt/1805afde26.jpg doesnt seem better, they are both equally as good, mine just means less leniency is abuse
05:13:302 (4,5) - make this spaced out like this 05:11:680 (5,6) - for consistency 05:03:571 (4,5) - but its not consistent then
05:36:915 (3,4,5,6) - feels forced? idk ;l agree, will change
05:38:740 (6,6) - stack these to 05:37:523 (7) - done!
05:42:996 (1,1,1,1) - why NC spam? EMPHASIS, CAMERA, ACTION!
05:48:673 (1,1) - ^
05:49:483 (1,1,1,1) - ^
05:55:969 (1,1,1,1) - ^
06:02:456 (1,1,1,1) - ^
==i literally cannot mod this part. enjoy some intermission quotes==
05:41:375 - im the idol everyone craves!
05:47:862 - lets see how you are on the dance floor!
05:54:348 - faster darling!
06:00:835 - u forgot one here
==
06:05:700 - map this part. im forcing you. no
06:09:652 (5) - cltr g this. feels unnatural to play imo :l feels niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice here
06:17:355 (2) - cltr g for pendelum motion http://puu.sh/na35n/a4ff0de083.jpg even though thats completely weird, WHY NOT!?
06:20:902 (4,5,7) - avoidable overlap or intentional? 06:21:003 (5,7) - stacked now
06:46:240 (1,1) - come on man. you can do better than this. map the singletaps!NO PLS DONT DO THIS TO ME (hardly a strong end with those instruments, i dont wanna map to them) the current end is a good end to a fast paced killer

asgore
human arphimigon... it was nice to meet you. goodbye.

compared to mtt, this song lacks wow factor lol
07:12:847 (4) - ctrl g coz its still on the same song part. did smth
07:22:512 (1,2,1) - ctrl g all these. http://puu.sh/na3nb/72db3a727e.jpg i prefer them non ctrl-ged
07:43:670 (2,3) - fix blanket nice nazi
07:44:976 (7) - increase spacing http://puu.sh/na3rm/e6b64c0024.jpg okdad
08:08:746 (2) - ctrl g this coz youve been doing that sort of thing for the entire map now. http://puu.sh/na3ux/76767ea04d.jpg ya bit since its lines its a LOT harder to snap to, so nahhhh besides i changed the earlier ones which where like this
08:24:158 (1) - get rid of the normal finish hitsound SO MUCH AGREE used drum whistle
08:25:202 (1) - add it here instead meh
08:25:202 (1) - why dont you map the piano how do ppl even hear that kind of stuff
08:54:719 (2) - well that looks terrible. do this instead. http://puu.sh/na3AO/cb8927896d.jpgbreaks spacing idk id need to redo the entire section with more spacing otherwise and that'd succ
08:57:592 (5) - ctrl g coz its more natural and you dont need that flowbreak.what flowbreak? this flows perfectly well into each other...

your best nightmare
howdy! i'm flowey! flowey the flower!

hey surprise. i literally cant mod this song.

hopes and dreams
howdy! arphi, are you there? It's me, your best friend.

I'm remapping this entire map, but ur suggestions r s1ck

megalovania (undertale ver.)
its a beautiful day outside.
birds are singing,
flowers are blooming...
on days like these, kids like you....
S h o u l daaab eaaab u r n i n gaaai naaah e l l.

14:18:776 (1) - ctrl g for flow! its VERY important on high bpm maps. MEGALOVANIA NEEDS HARSH SNAPS! It's a theme in the map cus the song suits it perfectly
14:23:901 (1) - missing finish hitsound. i didnt map these to finishes since a different pattern, i'll either change them or all none but rn i'm keepoing... well meh fffs idk tbh imo
14:27:026 (2) - ctrl g. btw white tick on slider end. ng m8. snaps, perfectly suit, and im literally following ONE INSTRUMENT in this entire song, so this makes PERFECT sense rhythmically
14:29:026 (2) - ctrl g. see above
14:31:651 (5,6,7,8,1) - overmap. delete 14:31:713 (6,8) -
14:36:776 (1,2,3) - have the cursor move around more. this is super uncomfortable to play actually. try doing this this SV calls for actually playing the sliders to full, you'd realise that in-play more than in the editor that trying to abuse leniency is gonna kill ya herehttp://puu.sh/na4GR/d0172be2bf.jpg
14:39:901 (1) - same. finish hitsound pls bah see last note
14:47:901 (1) - ctrl g. feels more natural to play disagree
14:56:151 (2,3) - ctrl g these two. plays better imo http://puu.sh/na4Mx/d9bac0f874.jpg that has NO flow whatsoever though, i dont see your point here, my ver right now is snappy but isnt anti-flow
15:37:901 (1) - ctrl g lol. feels better to me :l did smth
16:24:901 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - just delete this part. you dont need it. okdad

donald trump
I just wanna say that although lots of the rejected things were good or helpful, they usually went against either the theme of the song, or against general ideas that have been repeated.
Also every time u said ctrl-g i pretty much found it to be worse gg bias

Dunno if the problem was on my end but the audio and the map are in different times; the map was like half beat late, some accident in latest update?

Update your mp3
aka delete the map and redownload

Arphimigon wrote:

Update your mp3
aka delete the map and redownload

ye works now

arphi is deaf.

Hula wrote:

arphi is deaf.

iktf