1. Oni (3.89 stars, 1307 notes)

1. 00:00:000 (0) - In general, try not to overuse certain patterns, like dk k d. Mixing it up with some kd d d or dk d k depending on the song would help alot. I'll only mention a few specific instances in the mod itself for this reason.
   
   
2. 00:29:947 (86) - Remove and swap 00:29:831 and 00:30:062
   
   
3. 00:40:908 (139) - Change to d
   
   
4. 00:42:524 (145ish) - I would rework this section a bit so you can map to the piano riff that happens here, for SR's sake.
   
   
5. 01:16:793 (41) - ctrl+g with next note
   
   
6. 01:17:831 (47) - ^
   
   
7. 01:18:755 (50) - Change to d
   
   
8. 01:42:408 (0) - is it just me or is there a sound effect like uncle fucking pecos from tom and jerry breaking his guitar string here? Metadata issue clearly, the artist is CHiCO with Honeyworks feat. Uncle Pecos.
   
   
9. 01:50:370 (199) - I would start with 4 ks because the sound from the drumset jumps down to one of the lowest drums on the fifth hit.
   
   
10. 01:51:524 (208) - Rework these first 2 beats to match the vocals better (k dk k d d k or something)
    
    
11. 02:52:447 (131) - Far too monocolor of a stream, maybe split it into a triple then a stream based off the drumset? Just spitballin' since its kinda boring as-is. Rest of the 2 kiais here are great.
    
    
12. 03:03:524 (153) - d
    
    
13. 03:47:831 (270) - d
    
    
14. 04:22:908 (1) - Make sure not to overuse dk ddk here
    
    
15. 04:35:831 (76) - map the drum solo damnit
    
    
16. 04:48:755 (139) - K
    
    
17. 05:07:101 (227) - wow holy shit this song ends abruptly.

IntelliTroodon wrote:

ayy lmao first

Mod from queue

Oni:

1. 00:00:000 (0) - In general, try not to overuse certain patterns, like dk k d. Mixing it up with some kd d d or dk d k depending on the song would help alot. I'll only mention a few specific instances in the mod itself for this reason. I personally just stick to what sounds best and don't try to go for variety, but I'll see what I can do.
   
   
2. 00:29:947 (86) - Remove and swap 00:29:831 and 00:30:062 Done, also changed the stream pattern there a bit.
   
   
3. 00:40:908 (139) - Change to d I try to always have a k to match the drum beat on beats 2 and 4 (1st and 3rd small tick), since it's present in almost ever 4/4 song. Changing to d doesn't match this style.
   
   
4. 00:42:524 (145ish) - I would rework this section a bit so you can map to the piano riff that happens here, for SR's sake. Sure, although the SR didn't change xD
   
   
5. 01:16:793 (41) - ctrl+g with next note Done, also Ctrl + G'd on 01:09:408 (9,10) for consistency.
   
   
6. 01:17:831 (47) - ^ This one should be fine because of the k matching the drum beat form that I try to follow. Also matches the piano.
   
   
7. 01:18:755 (50) - Change to d
   
   
8. 01:42:408 (0) - is it just me or is there a sound effect like uncle fucking pecos from tom and jerry breaking his guitar string here? Metadata issue clearly, the artist is CHiCO with Honeyworks feat. Uncle Pecos. Uncle Pecos is HoneyWorks confirmed. I guess this'll be unrankable if I don't change it
   
   
9. 01:50:370 (199) - I would start with 4 ks because the sound from the drumset jumps down to one of the lowest drums on the fifth hit. Sure.
   
   
10. 01:51:524 (208) - Rework these first 2 beats to match the vocals better (k dk k d d k or something) I intentionally composed the current rhythm since I thought the instrumentals sounded much different and more focused on imo. No change.
    
    
11. 02:52:447 (131) - Far too monocolor of a stream, maybe split it into a triple then a stream based off the drumset? Just spitballin' since its kinda boring as-is. Rest of the 2 kiais here are great. Changed, but it's still kinda boring. Well, I'll see how it does.
    
    
12. 03:03:524 (153) - d Done, I think I was thinking of doing this before I requested the mod but totally forgot to do it lol
    
    
13. 03:47:831 (270) - d Done, also changed the hit before to k.
    
    
14. 04:22:908 (1) - Make sure not to overuse dk ddk here I'll see what I can do again. I'll try Ctrl + Ging some of the dks.
    
    
15. 04:35:831 (76) - map the drum solo damnit I really wish I could x.x But I really like the finishers
    
    
16. 04:48:755 (139) - K Done.
    
    
17. 05:07:101 (227) - wow holy shit this song ends abruptly. Yep.

kewl map dude

IControl wrote:

iControl's mod

Oni

00:19:101 - add k it goes with the pattern you did earlier and I hear it in the drum beat
I considered doing this when I first mapped it. I decided not to because I'd use the 2 hit 1/4 pattern too often, resulting in a loss of specialness (specialty?) in the ones that have a really loud sounding drum beat like at 00:15:870 (22,23). Will do this if there are frequent suggestions regarding this.
00:22:793 (54,55) - change to kK? not sure if its allowed but sounds nicer I wish I could do that but that's an unrankable pattern.
00:24:639 - k for consistency Same as before.
00:25:678 - ddI think the other notes you had were kinda boring compared to the triples patterns you had going on Yeah, thought the same. Added.
00:26:485 - k I'll consider this. I don't want to do this mainly because I've had a d here for the section.
00:29:601 (88,89) - ctrl g I think you meant to map k to the piano? the piano starts at the red tic
Changed by making 00:29:601 (85) k instead.
00:30:062 (91) - d the drums sound much lower for a k Done.
00:32:716 - dI think you were mapping to the lyrics which usually ends up being kinda awkward in taiko imo. Plus you have a cool double pattern going on That is a totally valid argument. It's just me that really doesn't like mapping with the double pattern if there's no distinct vocal or instrumental to match it.
00:36:639 - dTriple pattern consistency Done.
00:36:755 (125) - ddrums sound to low here Wanted to match to the vocals here.
00:42:293 (150) - move to 00:42:062 - There was no sound there lol There TECHNICALLY is a sound. I'll change it
00:53:601 - d The map needs more pressure here plus it sounds awkward mapping to the lyrics again
00:55:101 - k more pressure again , not as boring I want to deny the previous two because it'd be a continual kdkdkdkdkdk rhythm which is kinda pushing it on repetition.
01:14:485 (32,33) - ctrl g Drum notes sound lower This would work too, but I wanted to match the k to the vocals.
01:26:370 (85) - kConstancy from the previous triple Done.
01:50:716 (202,203) - cltr g Not as boring i don't like mono tone streams that much I'll try it, see what others say.
02:01:331 - d constancy Same thing as before, no change.
02:33:870 (37,38) - cltr g constancy ^
02:47:601 (106,107) - cltr g The first note sounds lower than the second Done.
02:52:908 (134) - k One i don't like mono tone streams, Two I think theres a sound difference right here I tried this, but I didn't really like the sound of it.
03:38:255 - add kdd I feel like something should go there but i'm not sure what to do with the finisher
Meh, I'll leave it for now.
04:08:139 - change audio to 40% If your going to map to something very low you should make notes sound low as well 60% is quiet enough. Changing it to 40% will be too small a difference from the Audio Volume at 30% at the whispering part.
04:33:294 (56) - d Drums sound lower here
Will keep in mind. I tried it, but it sounded a bit weird imo.
04:33:639 (59) - remove 04:33:870 (59) - remove There are no sounds there. I think you were getting to dk kd happy lol
Idk, I felt by doing this made this section feel really empty. Will keep in mind.
04:34:562 (63) - k Kinda diffuclt to explain this but if you change the playback rate to 50% you can hear theres a diffrence between 04:34:562 (65) - and 04:35:024 (69) - k Should be there to establish that difference. sorry not that good at explain things lol Sure, why not
04:35:486 (73) - k Kai time should have more kats, also sounds better imo
I'll keep this in mind, but no change for now.
04:43:563 (111) - k 04:44:024 (114) - k 04:44:370 (116) - k mapping to the piano here
Did for the second one.
04:59:831 (188) - if possible finisher Can't do that rip :/

Good luck

IControl wrote:

50% audio change at that section? still feel like it should be lower

Elfie wrote:

Hi, from my queue
maps seems to be very clear and pleasant to play so i guess there won't be many suggestions

Oni

1. have you thought about making the second diff? No need to, since it's over 5 minutes
2. 00:29:139 - 00:29:370 - there is a place for 1/6, you may use it somehow Oooh ok. Will change if it gets suggested to be removed.
3. 00:29:601 - d bcuz of lower tone of drum
4. 00:29:831 - k ^ also drum
   ^ example of this part I made small modifications to this rhythm, but for the most part is changed. Still not sure how good it sounds (it's fine), but idk if it's better than the other one.
5. 00:49:447 (189,192,195) - k if you want to emphasise the bell Yeah, the bell's unimportant here imo.
6. 00:51:755 - k (cuz i hear a cymbal) I'd like to keep this as a d to contrast the drum sound on the next hit. The cymbal isn't loud enough for that I think.
7. k
8. 01:27:524 - 01:28:101 - look http://puu.sh/mkOzW/a5c9c9bc89.jpg, kats are in wrong place for me - i put them to the highest drum tone and piano at the same time I think it's fine the way it is now. I only wanted to match the piano here and the piano is only going up in pitch so technically I could put the k's anywhere Will take this into consideration tho.
9. 01:28:793 - k also I personally don't like this :/
10. 01:50:370 - 01:51:293 - i hear something like this, check if this fits for you That works
11. 02:05:485 - ,02:05:947 - you may fill these gaps with d You can really hear the kkd rhythm here so I'd like to keep them separated.
12. 02:39:178 - k Sure.
13. 02:39:408 - this may be deleted so 02:39:524 - this note may be a finisher This has consistency issues, but I'll try it.
14. 02:39:293 - and this d cuz it's low Ok.
15. 02:40:793 - 02:40:908 - here you may put dk(no finisher) according to drums Again, consistency isses, but I'll do it.
16. 02:47:485 - ,02:47:947 - here you may also fill gaps Changed the rhythm here.
17. 02:52:908 - this should be k, this is hearably higher than the previous one Suggested in the previous mod, done.
18. 02:54:293 - i think you should increase SV a little because it's disturbing the reading a bit (or just move to 02:56:139 - ) it's up to you I thought so too, but I wasn't sure. Will see what others say.
19. 03:38:255 - you may add a note here (guitar) I like it without the hit.
20. 03:50:716 - k Sure.
21. 04:34:216 - 04:35:831 - check if u like it Idk. I'll keep it in mind.
22. 05:04:216 - k also There'll be consistency issues. No change.

I hope it's helpful

[R] wrote:

okay from my queue

[General]

01:21:524 - | 02:40:908 - | 04:37:216 - | i dont know how to explain my reason but why not continuing kiai time ? or if you like that structure try move the green line to 01:20:139 - its better Yeah, I do like that structure I originally thought to end the kiai time at the point you suggested, but after mapping it, I realized that it looked more visually appealing to me to have the kiai end with the piano gliss.

kiai time to long 1/3 (aimod) imo delete in this section 01:36:755 - | 04:52:447 - Deleted the first one. The second one not removed for the abrupt effect at the end.

[Oni]
00:22:562 - k I think this is fine as is.
00:36:755 - d Ok.

00:37:216 (124,125,126,127) - 124 part have ksound in previous sec , imo change structure to k kkd Partially changed.

00:41:601 - delete ? you folowing vocal here I'll be keeping this, but I'll consider the suggestion. I have a hit here because you can hear a fairly loud drum sound.

00:51:293 - k sound better Sure.
00:52:101 - add d I don't hear a good sound here, and the kkd should be isolated for good emphasis.

00:57:755 (223,224) - make ddd I don't like the idea of adding a hit where there isn't a good sound.
00:59:370 (231,232,233,234) - make kdddk or kdddd Made a modified rhythm.

01:14:024 - add note ? Saved that for the third kiai.
01:38:370 - delete ? emphasize Done.
01:43:678 (168,169,170,171) - make kddkd I'll consider this. I've thought about it before, but I'm still not too sure.

01:50:024 (197,198,199,200,201,202,203,204,205,206,207) - imo this part is overlap, maybe you can following the piano It's very easy overlap, no need to change imo. Will change if pointed out again.

01:51:524 - you following drum this part but suddenly 01:53:831 - change to vocal, solution is 01:51:985 (210,211) - dont let this empty I really like the instrumentals here and it has a different kind of sound from the rest of the song. To distinguish this, I purposely have it like this. No change.

02:05:947 - add note ? I'd like to keep the kkd kkd for the emphasis on those separated sounds.

03:47:716 - delete , overlap Whut =_= I'll fix the overlap a bit at the end of the second kiai tho.

04:16:216 - k variant
04:16:562 - ^
04:18:178 - ^
04:18:408 - ^ Idk about this, but it's a possibility. Will consider that.


Okay just that
Good Luck ~

EdamaMe411 wrote:

にゅーやんさあああああああん！！>ω<

Mod依頼されてきたのですが、自分がmodしてもあまりいいことは言えません!そこら辺は許してね!! いいえいいえ、そんなことないと思います。自分のmod に自信を持って!

じゃあ行くよ!

Oni

00:29:139 (81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88) - ここの音ピアノの音取ですよね？なのに最後の2音がkkになってて音が上がってしまってる。実際の音はどんどん音が低くなってるのでdで終えたほうがいいと思う。配置の見直しを!　おｋ。でも、ドラムとピアノを同時に合わせると思って、最後から二番目の k は変更なしです。

00:32:601 - d追加。ここで無理に2連にしなくてもいいですね。偶数のノーツっていうのは、ほんとにリズム変える程度で使えばいいと思うので、ここは普通に3連打でいいと思います
00:39:985 - ^と同じ!　やっぱり？そうしよかなと悩んでました。二つともd を追加しました。

00:37:447 (126,127) - 削除‼　ここはボーカルのところに合わせたほうが短いノーツラインにまとめられるし、序盤から難しくならないようにできるのでお勧めです!　おｋ。

00:41:831 (148,149) - Ctrl+G、、00:42:062 (146) - のピアノを表現したいから（たとえ低くてもピアノの音取をしているんだと相手に意識させるため）ううん、いいアイデアなんだけどちょっとドラムの音取もしたいので。一応やってみます。

01:08:601 - d追加。せっかくのkiaiタイムなのにちょっと物足りないと感じました。もう少し詰めてもいいかも
01:08:370 - d追加。^に納得してくれたのなら!
01:10:216 - 01:10:447 - d、、^きっとよくなると思います！
01:12:293 - 01:12:062 - d^
01:15:755 - 01:15:985 - d^ 確かに Edamameさんの言う通りです。他の気合タイムと似すぎちゃうのでそうするのはなしと決めましたがもしの場合にこのことは心に留めておきます。

01:20:139 (69) - d。ピアノも低くなってるし、次のボーカルの音程ともマッチするから 　やってみます。
01:46:678 (190) - ここ確かにピアノが強くたたかれてるからそこで止めたんですが、太鼓として叩く分にはそこで切ると流れが悪くなってしまいます。01:46:908 - 01:47:255 - に音を入れてあげてつないであげましょう!　おｋ。

01:53:370 (224,225) - DD。。。01:51:524 (217) - ここがKになってるので一貫性持たせるためにも 　これチョーいいアイデアです。

02:09:293 (304) - k？　02:08:831 (300,301,302,303) - この4音と音が違うからっていう理由 一番強調したいところが02:09:524 なのでここは d のままにしておきます。

02:17:139 (342,343) - 削除‼‼‼ノーツライン長すぎる‼‼Inner Oniなら許されるかもだけどこれはOni なので！Approvalといってもそこら辺はしっかり切っていこうｗ
02:16:562 - k追加。　　^賛成してくれたなら二つともやりました。それか名前を Inner Oni にかえたりとかいけるんじゃね？w

02:26:601 (1) - ここからのkiaiタイム、もう少し詰めてもいいと思うよ　どうすればいいのか悩んでます :/ あまりノートを入れる場所はないと思います。

02:45:062 (93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111) - ここすごい好き!Very Good よっしゃ！

03:38:139 (214,215) - ここ！！d　kになってるけど、ピアノの音拾えばもっといいと思う！だから1/4でddddkでいい感じになるハズ!　ごめん、そんなに好きじゃない


03:38:947 (219) - 削除。して03:39:062 (220) - d‼‼‼理由は03:39:293 (221,222,223) - ここを目立たせたいから‼‼この意見はおすすめ!　 Ctrl + G しました。

03:45:870 (258) - 削除。ピアノの入りを優先させてあげてね! おｋ。
03:47:716 (271) - ^　＾

04:06:293 (1) - dにして04:06:293 (1) - kにしてみるのは？1/8だけど、入れても違和感ないと思った!　ま、できるんだがスピナーの後だとリズムに反応するのはちょっと難しいかな？ 1/6 に見えるし。

05:02:601 - ノーツ追加。上に書いた（どこかにｗ）のと同じ理由!　チョットだけ追加しました。

良い譜面だと思います。頑張って‼
>ω</☆

いつもありがとうございます。Star もありがとう。いっぱい頼んで悪いな。いつでもEdamameさんのリクエストを受け付けますので言って下さい　

1. bitrate 128, but still fine to hear.. XD
2. http://puu.sh/mJMVZ.png 1.3999999666214 change to 1.4

1. 00:21:755 - is high pitch (differ with note before), you want change this to kat?
2. 00:22:562 - I think is High pitch, you should change this to kat for good emphasize.. if not is heard fade imo
3. 00:29:139 - kddk 1/6 more smooth if heard (EDITT: is fine :U but up to u, just focus on my blue dem word wwww. is important things)
4. 01:28:793 - you must change this to kat for consistent hitsound with 01:28:908 (102,103) - this pitch, same flow right?
5. 01:33:408 - you may add this kat for consistent follow piano pitch and 01:33:524 - change this don for better emphasize, and this fit to be pattern
6. 01:42:986 (164,169) - same with before
7. 01:50:370 (201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209) - its fine, i know why u make this for better emphasize with drum right? 01:50:831 (204,205,206,207,208) - but if you want emphasize piano, you can just change to kdkddkddk if you like it
8. 02:05:601 (273,274,275,276,277,278) - if you slow playback this, it can be dkkdkkd, but if you want follow vocal, just make dkk kkd. its fit with vocal to be variety, 02:05:947 - cuz this heard fade, so up to you
9. 02:10:216 (301,302,303,304,305,306) - to better contrast, change to dkk dkk, cuz for 02:12:062 (308,309,310) - better variety and 02:11:831 (307,308) - for emphasize bass
10. 02:33:063 (32,33,34,35,36,37,38) - its blocked important pitch, better to change from here 02:33:062 - k dkkdk k, and 02:33:985 - want this to be finisher cuz have cymbal?
11. 02:39:985 - change to kat finisher? 02:39:524 (70,71,72) - D K D its fit with drum and vocal imo
12. 02:40:908 - kat for drum? and vocal its still fine imo if you change kat
13. 02:55:678 - 02:55:908 - BHAAGKHHAAA~
14. 03:37:678 - change don? to over if kk, dk its look good if heard from low-high pitch
15. 03:39:870 - add kat and 03:40:331 - delete this? its good emphasize imo for patterning
16. 03:43:562 - same above, but here is don for variety
17. 03:44:831 - kat for piano and drum? contrast is good imo
18. 03:48:755 - don? for contrast
19. 04:07:216 - dd and d? for consistent your place note, 03:37:678 (212,213,214) - like in here if you want
20. and consider on 8th kiai, some mod have same parts in my previous mod, but idk XD
21. 05:04:216 - kat for drum? and this consistent with 05:04:908 - this pitch, both piano and drum imo
22. 05:06:755 - change don? 05:06:870 (228,229) - this for emphasize this notes

Nepuri wrote:

Oni

00:22:793 (53,54) - maybe kd because of the drums you mentioned? I'd like to keep this so I don't get repetitive with my patterns. I also have the end as a k for the piano.
00:32:370 (100,101,102) - ddk to fit the drums My intentions behind this rhythm was that I wanted to capture the vocals, but not fully omit the drums. dkk didn't sound good, so I had it as dkd.
00:34:678 (110,111,112,113,114) - typical dnb sound, try dkdkd or leave it at ddddd, sounds fine tooKept.
00:41:831 (146) - k for drum? I actually changed this because of a previous mod, and his reasoning behind it was pretty good imo, and I liked it. However, it is definitely a possibility.
01:52:447 (212) - k because of that sound there i cant describe because i suck I'd like to keep this for the emphasis on the difference in instrumentals.
04:22:101 (1) - remove and maybe put a slider? Short spinners dont play very well! I personally like this, but I could decide to do this.

Sorry for short mod, im new at modding That's ok. It's great that you're contributing to the mapping community.

its almost all copypaste anyways, sooooo... tru lol

Surono wrote:

Hi! I am here for M4M

>General

1. bitrate 128, but still fine to hear.. XD Uh, this is from the CD that I bought so it better be good quality :/
2. http://puu.sh/mJMVZ.png 1.3999999666214 change to 1.4

LOL why is it like that. Fixed.

>Oni

1. 00:21:755 - is high pitch (differ with note before), you want change this to kat? This is inconsistent with the other parts where they have the exact same pitch, such as at 00:19:216.
2. 00:22:562 - I think is High pitch, you should change this to kat for good emphasize.. if not is heard fade imo I think I'll try it.
3. 00:29:139 - kddk 1/6 more smooth if heard (EDITT: is fine :U but up to u, just focus on my blue dem word wwww. is important things) Yeah, I'd like to keep this.
4. 01:28:793 - you must change this to kat for consistent hitsound with 01:28:908 (102,103) - this pitch, same flow right? Yep, done.
5. 01:33:408 - you may add this kat for consistent follow piano pitch and 01:33:524 - change this don for better emphasize, and this fit to be pattern I'm not matching to the piano here, so I'd like to keep it consistent.
6. 01:42:986 (164,169) - same with before Done for this one, since the drum sound is different.
7. 01:50:370 (201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209) - its fine, i know why u make this for better emphasize with drum right? 01:50:831 (204,205,206,207,208) - but if you want emphasize piano, you can just change to kdkddkddk if you like it Yeah, for the reason you mentioned, I'd like to keep this.
8. 02:05:601 (273,274,275,276,277,278) - if you slow playback this, it can be dkkdkkd, but if you want follow vocal, just make dkk kkd. its fit with vocal to be variety, 02:05:947 - cuz this heard fade, so up to you Changed to dkk kkd.
9. 02:10:216 (301,302,303,304,305,306) - to better contrast, change to dkk dkk, cuz for 02:12:062 (308,309,310) - better variety and 02:11:831 (307,308) - for emphasize bass This seems very complex for what it actually is, and the similarity is fine imo. No change.
10. 02:33:063 (32,33,34,35,36,37,38) - its blocked important pitch, better to change from here 02:33:062 - k dkkdk k, and 02:33:985 - want this to be finisher cuz have cymbal? Modified the rhythm which should work better than the current one.
11. 02:39:985 - change to kat finisher? 02:39:524 (70,71,72) - D K D its fit with drum and vocal imo I'd like to stick to one colour here, since I wanted to emphasize the distinct drum beat. Also, the K should be at 02:40:447 (73) to me if I were to do this.
12. 02:40:908 - kat for drum? and vocal its still fine imo if you change kat Definitely works, but idk. Will consider.
13. 02:55:678 - 02:55:908 - BHAAGKHHAAA~ B-B-BAAAAKKKKKKAAAAAA
14. 03:37:678 - change don? to over if kk, dk its look good if heard from low-high pitch Tried it, but I liked kk better.
15. 03:39:870 - add kat and 03:40:331 - delete this? its good emphasize imo for patterning Mmmm... idk. I don't really understand how it's good for emphasis of the pattern :/
16. 03:43:562 - same above, but here is don for variety ^
17. 03:44:831 - kat for piano and drum? contrast is good imo Yep, changed.
18. 03:48:755 - don? for contrast I thought the piano and the drum should be matched more than emphasis.
19. 04:07:216 - dd and d? for consistent your place note, 03:37:678 (212,213,214) - like in here if you want You've got a point, but I just felt like this shouldn't be here. If anybody else mentions it, I'll do it.
20. and consider on 8th kiai, some mod have same parts in my previous mod, but idk XD kk.
21. 05:04:216 - kat for drum? and this consistent with 05:04:908 - this pitch, both piano and drum imo Yep.
22. 05:06:755 - change don? 05:06:870 (228,229) - this for emphasize this notes I think it's fine.

well, looks simple map, simple patterns *cuz would overmap if mapped all pitch ww* and good emphasize too.. and I see some extended pattern or idk haha, give stars for Nice map!
GLuck!

Chromoxx wrote:

hey there, here's the IRC + discord voice mod and normal mod for the 2nd half

IRC (might seem inconclusive, since we discussed the specifics over discord)

2016-01-29 18:48 Chromoxx: 00:29:139 (81,82,83,84) -
2016-01-29 18:50 Chromoxx: 01:07:216 -
2016-01-29 18:51 Chromoxx: 01:08:601 - add d
2016-01-29 18:52 newyams99: 01:08:831 (7,8) -
2016-01-29 18:52 newyams99: ddk
2016-01-29 18:52 Chromoxx: 01:10:447 -
2016-01-29 18:53 Chromoxx: source: 世界はiに満ちている
2016-01-29 18:53 newyams99: i = あい
2016-01-29 18:53 newyams99: あい = love
2016-01-29 18:55 Chromoxx: 01:34:216 (129,130,131,132,133) -
2016-01-29 18:55 Chromoxx: 01:34:331 (130,131) - ctrl G
2016-01-29 18:57 Chromoxx: 01:42:986 (163) -
2016-01-29 18:59 Chromoxx: 01:51:062 (206) - change k
2016-01-29 19:01 Chromoxx: 02:27:639 -
2016-01-29 19:09 Chromoxx: 03:09:062 -
2016-01-29 19:09 Chromoxx: 03:14:139 (167,168) -
2016-01-29 19:11 newyams99: 03:17:831 (173) -
2016-01-29 19:11 Chromoxx: 03:21:524 (179,180) -
2016-01-29 19:11 Chromoxx: d k
2016-01-29 19:12 Chromoxx: 03:39:755 (222,223) -
2016-01-29 19:13 Chromoxx: 03:43:447 (242) -

continued mod D:

03:39:755 (222,242,265) - move one blue tick to the right, would work a lot better imo... i noticed this while playing also
03:50:370 (284,285,286,287) - again, i'm not too sure about this mixstream in the context of the maps general difficulty, but that's up to you As mentioned, I didn't really like this, sorry
04:08:139 - starting from here i would suggest maybe differentiating between the doubles to make it a bit less monotone, i'd suggest making every 2nd pair of doubles kd dk d or something like that, i mean it's probably fine as it is but maybe take that into consideration Sure.
04:23:716 - i'd suggest adding a d on places like this in the final kiai, imo making a quad here isn't going too overboard and would also differentiate well between the other kiais, (if you do this you can also make the doublet pairs in the seccond kiai)... i won't list the other places for the quads cos i can trust you to know what i mean lol ^^ Sure.
04:29:948 (40) - i'd delete this note tbh, i don't really see it serving any particular purpose and it takes the emphasis away from the white tick D: I wanted to match to the guitar here. Also, it kinda breaks the flow imo.
04:33:639 (62) - same here, except this one is more important, cos it takes away the emphasis from the vocal on the note before ^
04:36:755 (81,82,83) - i'd switch the colors on these notes to emphasize the very high pitched vocal on 81 You've got a point, but I'd like to keep this for consistency with the other kiais, and I didn't really like how this sounded when I listened to it.
one last thing: i'm not too sure about these parts being kiai (03:38:601 - and 04:52:447 - ) since they are basically just instrumental parts, i can see why you would make them kiai but it's inconsistent with the other kiai parts, which suffice by themselves imo

nice map, you did very well mapping such a slow and awkward to map song imo
gl with ranking, i'll shoot you a star

1. 副詞の頭文字を小文字にしてください。
   Title: Sekai wa Koi ni Ochiteiru
   
   
2. BG座標を30~40下げてください。

1. 主にKiaiパートで、単調さやボーカルへの偏りが非常に目立ちます。(01:07:216 (1,2,3,4) - , )
   ボーカルだけでなくドラムの音もフォローしてみてください。バランスの偏りだけでなく、単調さも拭うことに繋がります。また、密度も他のパートと比べかなり低めなので、ノート数自体も増やした方が良いかもしれません。他のパートは概ね大丈夫です。
   
   
2. 00:29:139 (81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88) - 曲調に対してかなり難易度が高いです。簡易化を検討してください。例: kkkd - dkk - d-
3. 00:30:524 (91,92,93,94) - ボーカルを拾うとこのような配置になるのもわかるのですが、Taikoは打楽器なので同じ打楽器のドラムの音がボーカルよりは多少相性がいいと思います。ドラム合わせのパターンも試してみてください。00:37:908 (127,128,129,130) - なども同様
4. 00:57:062 (220,221,222,223,224,225,226) - 少しkdkdkが長すぎると思います。
   
   
5. 01:27:524 (95,96,97,98,99,100) - 6連打が少し突然すぎると感じました。ドラムの音を大切にしてx-x-xxのような配置でも良いと思います。
6. 01:33:524 (130,131) - ドラム合わせでtripletを置いても良いと思います。
7. 02:38:370 (62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70) - 正直なところこの配色はあまり音に合っていないように感じました。d-kkkkdkd, ddkkkkdkd, kkdkkkdkd, 等、もう少し音を大切にした配置を考えてみてください。

tasuke912 wrote:

Hi.
日本語で書きますがもしわからないところがあったらPMとかで呼んでください 全然大丈夫です

[ General]

1. 副詞の頭文字を小文字にしてください。
   Title: Sekai wa Koi ni Ochiteiru
2. BG座標を30~40下げてください。

上記の全てを直しました。
[ Oni]

1. 主にKiaiパートで、単調さやボーカルへの偏りが非常に目立ちます。(01:07:216 (1,2,3,4) - , )　
   ボーカルだけでなくドラムの音もフォローしてみてください。バランスの偏りだけでなく、単調さも拭うことに繋がります。また、密度も他のパートと比べかなり低めなので、ノート数自体も増やした方が良いかもしれません。他のパートは概ね大丈夫です。このことに気づいてました。元々はどうしてもボーカルの音取をしたかったので、今よりも気合タイムが簡単でした。「簡単すぎんな、これ」と考えて、できるだけボーカルの音取を失わずにインストを拾って気合タイムを修正したのですが。これ以上どう難しくできるのかを悩んでいるので、この件については tasuke さんや他の人達に尋ねてみます。
   
   
2. 00:29:139 (81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88) - 曲調に対してかなり難易度が高いです。簡易化を検討してください。例: kkkd - dkk - d-　1/6 を削除して、1/4 に簡易化しました。
3. 00:30:524 (91,92,93,94) - ボーカルを拾うとこのような配置になるのもわかるのですが、Taikoは打楽器なので同じ打楽器のドラムの音がボーカルよりは多少相性がいいと思います。ドラム合わせのパターンも試してみてください。00:37:908 (127,128,129,130) - なども同様　
   試して全然違和感を感じませんでした。ですがこうすると、ここから気合タイムまでが主に1/2 リズム、簡単なtriplet や五連の 1/4 リズムばかりの部分なってしまうので、少しつまらなくなるのではないでしょうか？今のようなボーカルの音取がたまにあれば、新鮮なリズムを作れて良いと思いました。
4. 00:57:062 (220,221,222,223,224,225,226) - 少しkdkdkが長すぎると思います。変更してみました。
5. 01:27:524 (95,96,97,98,99,100) - 6連打が少し突然すぎると感じました。ドラムの音を大切にしてx-x-xxのような配置でも良いと思います。d k dk に変更しました。
6. 01:33:524 (130,131) - ドラム合わせでtripletを置いても良いと思います。良いでしょう。
7. 02:38:370 (62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70) - 正直なところこの配色はあまり音に合っていないように感じました。d-kkkkdkd, ddkkkkdkd, kkdkkkdkd, 等、もう少し音を大切にした配置を考えてみてください。

　02:38:475 (63) は無必要でしたので削除しました。これで一番良いと思いますが、1/4 リズムの後部の提案は考慮しておきます。他の modder がこれに触れたら、変更する可能性がより高くなるでしょう。
後半は基本的に上記参照なのでタイムスタンプは省略しました。了解。
kiaiパート以外は基本的にgoodですが、今のところまだRankedするには不十分に見えるので、より多くのmoddersを集めて改善を試みてください。そうします。
Good luck!

huepike wrote:

こんにちは！ PMからです。日本語でOKとのことで日本語で書きますが、もし分からなければ聞いて下さい。

Oni

・02:52:668 (132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143) - この間に速度変化は必要ないと思いました。速度変化はあくまで”初見プレイでも対応できる範囲”にとどめておくのが普通だと思います。この場合初見でも対応できる範囲ではあると思いますが少し見づらいかな？できるだけ見やすくしましたがやっぱりそうですね。気合タイムが終わってから速度変更を挿入しました。
・02:54:052 - change to k こうすると 01:34:668 (138,139) や 04:50:360 (155,156) と一貫してないです。それと 02:54:052 (142,143) でのドラム音も同じように聞こえたので変更なしです。

・03:27:052 (187) - delete, 03:27:052 (187) - change to k. 小さな指摘です。変えなくても間違いでは無いと思うので、変えるかは任せます。小節毎の四拍目に配置してる03:25:206 (183), 03:28:898 (192), 03:32:591 (202) などのサークルがこの部分の組み立てとなっています 03:27:052 (187) もこの組み立ての一部なので変更なしです。

・04:00:629 (332) - delete. ストリームの終わりにヴォーカルの始まりが来るのはどうかと思いました。04:02:591 (343) - ここが普通の単発なのでなおさらです。削除の上、04:00:745 (332) に finish を追加しました。

・04:08:129 ~ 04:18:745 - なんですが、個人的に最後のkiai timeの前の盛り下がる場所？だと認識しているので、1/4を、特に偶数を置くのは雰囲気を壊している気がします。なるべくスカスカに（1/2主体）にしてはどうでしょうか。今のままでもこの部分は気合タイムより簡単なので大丈夫だと思いました。インストの音取をしたかったので 1/4 はそのままにしておきたいです。

・04:21:052 (1,2,3) - change to big notes. 歌詞の「好きです」を強調させるためにも是非bigにしましょう。両手で叩くというだけでかなり印象が出るはずです。なるほど。僕は囁きを強調するために finish 無しのサークルを配置しました。でも finish を付けると告白宣言みたいな感じでイイですね^^
でも、04:21:975 (3) だけに finish を追加しました。こうすると囁きの静かさを強調しながら、宣言のインパクトが最後に得ることができると思いました。

・04:52:437 - ここから先はx1.2もいるかな・・・と思いました。直前と同じくkiai timeなんですが、重要であるヴォーカルがここで終わっているので後奏といえます。曲調で見るとまだ盛り上がる所ではあるんですがx1.0の方が良いかなと個人的に思いました。1.2x にする必要は特に無いですね。1.0x に変更しました。

以上です。ハニーワークス良いですよね！僕も好きです！ハニーワークスサイコー
期待を込めて★投げときます！！GOOD LUCK

Raiden wrote:

did some quick check with the mapper

will come back later

SPOILER

23:42 Raiden: yoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo
23:42 newyams99: yoyoyoyoyo
23:44 Raiden: how is
23:44 Raiden: stuff
23:44 Raiden: ¿¿?¡
23:45 newyams99: pretty good
23:45 newyams99: just finishing up a mod
23:45 newyams99: actually could I ask for your input
23:45 Raiden: not pretty much in the mood to play but oh well
23:47 newyams99: so does that mean I can ask for your input :P
23:47 Raiden: sure
23:47 *newyams99 is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/861612 CHiCO with HoneyWorks - Sekai wa Koi ni Ochiteiru]
23:47 newyams99: so tasuke modded this
23:47 Raiden: one day
23:48 Raiden: you'll stop mapping anime
23:48 Raiden: and map real songs
23:48 Raiden: like
23:48 newyams99: yes
23:48 newyams99: one day
23:48 newyams99: yes
23:48 *Raiden is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/905790 DragonForce - Cry for Eternity]
23:48 Raiden: which btw I might need you in the end
23:48 newyams99: yes
23:48 Raiden: Gezo might never mod again
23:48 Raiden: ;_;
23:48 newyams99: yes
23:48 newyams99: o
23:48 newyams99: okie
23:48 newyams99: ;w;
23:48 Raiden: the dl is stuck at 4,3%
23:48 Raiden: 4,4%
23:48 Raiden: hooray
23:48 newyams99: rip
23:48 Raiden: 4,6% omg
23:48 Raiden: optic fiber 10/10
23:49 newyams99: the progress is real
23:49 newyams99: xD
23:49 newyams99: basically tasuke said the kiai was too ez
23:49 newyams99: and I was aware of that
23:50 newyams99: but I didn't know how to make it more difficult without losing a difficulty curve within the diff
23:50 newyams99: so I was wondering if you had any ideas
23:50 newyams99: other than making the other parts easier
23:50 Raiden: o
23:51 Raiden: ok
23:51 Raiden: server looks like being saturated
23:51 Raiden: i knew it was not my internet
23:51 newyams99: ah
23:53 Raiden: "15 kb/s"
23:53 Raiden: optic fiber 420/69
23:54 newyams99: noice optic fiber
23:57 Raiden: IT'S HAPPENING
23:57 *Raiden is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/861612 CHiCO with HoneyWorks - Sekai wa Koi ni Ochiteiru]
23:57 newyams99: sdfokajspfdnasjpofindasjpofnadsj
23:57 newyams99: amazing
23:57 *Raiden is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/861612 CHiCO with HoneyWorks - Sekai wa Koi ni Ochiteiru [Oni]] <Taiko> +DoubleTime
23:58 Raiden: i aint playing this shit without dt
23:58 Raiden: nice pp map
23:58 newyams99: I agree!
23:58 newyams99: actually it isn't
23:58 newyams99: cuz there's a stupid 1/6 part that I put in
23:58 Raiden: o
23:58 Raiden: nuked then
23:58 newyams99: qq
23:58 Raiden: >missing beatmap
23:59 newyams99: lel I tried some stuff with making the map harder
23:59 Raiden: wow
23:59 Raiden: what an ass
23:59 Raiden: let me gain my pp ok
23:59 newyams99: np
23:59 *Raiden is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/861612 CHiCO with HoneyWorks - Sekai wa Koi ni Ochiteiru [Oni]] <Taiko> +DoubleTime
23:59 newyams99: just gotta remove that 1/6 part and good to go
00:00 Raiden: !
00:00 Raiden: ok can i play
00:00 Raiden: or am i supposed to wait
00:00 newyams99: oh
00:00 newyams99: just play
00:04 newyams99: trying to experiment with making the kiai harder
00:04 Raiden: yeah indeed
00:04 Raiden: the kiai feels anticlimatic
00:04 Raiden: also some of the endings are bogus
00:04 Raiden: the hitsound volume reduction should be placed 1/4th before the next note, not right at the end of the kiai
00:05 Raiden: because the last note of the kiai has said reduced volume
00:05 Raiden: and it feels weird lol
00:05 newyams99: oh yea
00:05 newyams99: I'll change that
00:05 Raiden: and there was 1 sv change I found odd too
00:05 Raiden: iirc
00:05 newyams99: which one :P
00:05 Raiden: somewhere at the middle i think
00:05 Raiden: has to do with a visually unappealing barline
00:05 newyams99: just before the really quiet part?
00:06 Raiden: tasuke is influencing me too much on this
00:06 newyams99: oh yea
00:06 Raiden: dam
00:07 Raiden: and some patterns I found odd too
00:07 newyams99: oh found the SV thing
00:07 newyams99: 02:56:129 (151) -
00:07 Raiden: because i'm too bad to play them so i'll try to convince you to change them
00:07 Raiden: to earn my pp
00:07 newyams99: xp
00:07 Raiden: yeah this one02:56:129 - 
00:07 newyams99: well tell me anyways since any help is great
00:07 Raiden: lmaoo
00:07 Raiden: just put the same sv as 02:57:975 - 
00:08 Raiden: no need to do 2 different ones
00:08 newyams99: yea
00:09 Raiden: 03:53:360 - 
00:09 Raiden: that has 60% volume
00:09 Raiden: 04:50:591 - this note 40% volume
00:10 newyams99: oh and the audio volume at places at the end of the kiais are intentional
00:10 Raiden: hm
00:11 newyams99: I suppose I could change them
00:11 Raiden: well in some way it does make sense
00:11 Raiden: because said note represents a softer vocal
00:11 Raiden: but idk
00:11 newyams99: yea that was my intention
00:11 Raiden: may throw off some people for such a sudden change
00:12 Raiden: maybe instead of 40% put 50 or 55%
00:12 newyams99: yea a compromise sounds good
00:12 Raiden: the map overall is pretty solid
00:12 Raiden: just the kiais need a bit of spice up imo
00:12 Raiden: like tasuke said
00:12 newyams99: yep
00:12 Raiden: just overmap the fuck out of it 
00:12 Raiden: tbh
00:13 Raiden: 1/2 + 1/4
00:13 Raiden: while following drums and vocals
00:13 newyams99: sounds good xd
00:13 Raiden: (or vocals only)
00:13 newyams99: solve my struggle
00:13 Raiden: lol
00:13 newyams99: I've been fuken thinking about how to change it for over a week now
00:13 Raiden: do it raiden style
00:13 Raiden: in my dragonforce maps there's just d k ddk d k ddk
00:13 Raiden: but i fuck around it
00:14 newyams99: xD
00:14 Raiden: and i end up with shit like d k ddkkd k ddk dkkkdk d kdddkkd
00:14 Raiden: and it's still correct!
00:14 Raiden: I haven't altered the structure
00:14 Raiden: at all
00:14 newyams99: kewl :D
00:14 Raiden: you'll see
00:14 Raiden: in CfE
00:14 Raiden: if you get to look at it
00:14 newyams99: I think I'll have time next week since it's spring break
00:14 Raiden: need to reply to mintong's mod tho
00:15 Raiden: wow that'd make me real happy
00:15 Raiden: let me know when you played around with this kiai and tasuke's given you #1
00:16 newyams99: kk
00:16 newyams99: well tasuke said to gather more modders so
00:16 newyams99: the bubble might not be immediate
00:16 newyams99: and post your irc
00:16 Raiden: o