"small" irc mod thing
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2015-12-01 21:05 Reclaimer: ayy my maps finished
2015-12-01 21:06 Reclaimer: wanna mod ? :D
2015-12-01 21:07 Lasse: I can irc if you want, got nothing better to right now anyways
2015-12-01 21:07 Reclaimer: sure
2015-12-01 21:07 Reclaimer: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/830624 supercell feat. sana - Sayonara Memories [Painfully Grateful]]
2015-12-01 21:08 Reclaimer: scrapped the beginnin bc of the weird timing
2015-12-01 21:10 Lasse: 00:16:541 (1) - spinner on a guitar strum isnt really fitting imo
2015-12-01 21:11 Lasse: it just feels so weird cause the spinner is on nothing besides the start
2015-12-01 21:11 Reclaimer: so do you think it should be a slider
2015-12-01 21:11 Lasse: probably a note on 00:16:080 (1) - + slider on 00:16:541 (2) -
2015-12-01 21:11 Reclaimer: or just nothng
2015-12-01 21:11 Lasse: or just start the map at 00:18:222 (1) -
2015-12-01 21:11 Lasse: ye
2015-12-01 21:12 Lasse: 00:18:222 (1) - 100% volume?
2015-12-01 21:12 Lasse: the thing is so calm
2015-12-01 21:13 Reclaimer: i havent touched hit sounds at all yet
2015-12-01 21:13 Reclaimer: so dont worry about that
2015-12-01 21:13 Reclaimer: i'll adjust all the volumes and such later
2015-12-01 21:13 Lasse: idk about timing but it might be a bit off
2015-12-01 21:13 Lasse: 00:22:159 (4) -
2015-12-01 21:14 Lasse: the hit seems to be more around 00:22:136
2015-12-01 21:16 Reclaimer: alright
2015-12-01 21:16 Reclaimer: i added a red line there
2015-12-01 21:16 Lasse: but after it seems fine for me, probably check with someone who is better at timing than me :v
2015-12-01 21:17 Reclaimer: that whole little bit was off slightly
2015-12-01 21:17 Reclaimer: i added a red line so its fixed
2015-12-01 21:18 Lasse: i get you want to map guitars with those 00:30:775 (2) - but there are really strong drum hits on the white ticks :/
2015-12-01 21:18 Lasse: maybe end the sliders on white instead
2015-12-01 21:19 Lasse: cause right now it feels weird since players will most likely expect sth clickable or anything there
2015-12-01 21:20 Reclaimer: i think its fine
2015-12-01 21:20 Reclaimer: its clearly established that the sliders are mapped to the guitar from the start
2015-12-01 21:20 Reclaimer: players will understand that on the first few notes
2015-12-01 21:21 Reclaimer: and the guitar is much stronger than the bass drum at this point
2015-12-01 21:22 Lasse: inb4 https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/4568620 :v its fine for me but people might dislike lol
2015-12-01 21:22 Lasse: also here you should gradually increase spacing since the music is building up 00:33:213 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
2015-12-01 21:22 Lasse: oh wait it increases already
2015-12-01 21:23 Lasse: but 00:33:775 (4,5) - needs more
2015-12-01 21:23 Lasse: to fit better
2015-12-01 21:24 Reclaimer: alright
2015-12-01 21:24 Reclaimer: adjusted it a bit
2015-12-01 21:24 Reclaimer: 00:33:775 (4) - moved this to x:8 y:156
2015-12-01 21:24 Lasse: 00:33:025 (6) - this 1/12 slider.. it seems fine with the noise but it just plays so weird cause it's really unexpected to have sth like that
2015-12-01 21:25 Reclaimer: havent had anyone complain so far
2015-12-01 21:25 Reclaimer: i'll keep it unless more people mention it
2015-12-01 21:27 Lasse: 00:34:525 (8) - probably nc this, goes better with the music and the combo goes on for too long else
2015-12-01 21:28 Lasse: 00:46:646 (1) - as strong or even stronger than 00:46:458 (8) - but spaced less :/
2015-12-01 21:28 Lasse: 00:47:396 (4) - ^
2015-12-01 21:29 Reclaimer: 00:46:646 (1) - moved to x396 y204
2015-12-01 21:29 Lasse: 00:48:146 (1) - lower sv might be really neat on this
2015-12-01 21:29 Lasse: like 0.75x or sth
2015-12-01 21:30 Reclaimer: alright fixed that one bit you mentioned
2015-12-01 21:30 Reclaimer: gonna try .85 on the sv
2015-12-01 21:31 Reclaimer: dont want it to be too slow
2015-12-01 21:31 Lasse: 00:50:811 - that sound is clickable all the time but not here
2015-12-01 21:31 Lasse: 0.75x is fine, 0.85x would be way too hard to really notice imo
2015-12-01 21:31 Reclaimer: true
2015-12-01 21:32 Reclaimer: alright
2015-12-01 21:33 Lasse: 00:58:706 (1,2,3,4,5) - below 1x ds. it feels a bit weird to move slower than sliders here
2015-12-01 21:33 Reclaimer: fixed
2015-12-01 21:34 Lasse: dont have to stack that one note on 00:58:330 (7) - anyways. not noticeable at all during gameplay
2015-12-01 21:34 Reclaimer: you saying to make it 1x ds?
2015-12-01 21:34 Lasse: better keep the ddistance consistent
2015-12-01 21:34 Lasse: would be better
2015-12-01 21:35 Lasse: 01:13:693 (1,2) - might look a bit too much like the 1/4 before spacing wise for my taste
2015-12-01 21:38 Reclaimer: alright fixed the ds on that bit
2015-12-01 21:38 Lasse: 01:28:696 (1,2,3) - why spacing decrease? It's clearly building up
2015-12-01 21:38 Reclaimer: and i think that bit is fine
2015-12-01 21:38 Reclaimer: oops
2015-12-01 21:38 Reclaimer: i'll fix that lol
2015-12-01 21:40 Lasse: 1/2 to 1/4 transition is bad to read here 01:35:434 (5,6,7,8) -
2015-12-01 21:40 Lasse: also 01:36:184 (1,2) - slider -> circle would be better with the rhythm
2015-12-01 21:41 Lasse: right now you have a slider that doesnt seem to start on anything
2015-12-01 21:41 Lasse: or at least
2015-12-01 21:41 Lasse: less adible than white tick
2015-12-01 21:41 Lasse: http://lasse.s-ul.eu/5XXLnBkg
2015-12-01 21:42 Lasse: *audible
2015-12-01 21:43 Reclaimer: o
2015-12-01 21:43 Reclaimer: thats what you mean lolt
2015-12-01 21:43 Lasse: 01:41:554 (1) - snapped from the wrong side of the red line
2015-12-01 21:44 Lasse: also this note seems to be a bit before the sound 01:40:660 (1) -
2015-12-01 21:45 Reclaimer: what do you mean about 01:41:860 (2) -
2015-12-01 21:45 Lasse: probably should be snapped to the red tick after it
2015-12-01 21:46 Reclaimer: its fine
2015-12-01 21:46 Lasse: 01:41:860 (2) - feels too early as well :/
2015-12-01 21:46 Reclaimer: 01:41:860 -
2015-12-01 21:46 Lasse: or rather late
2015-12-01 21:46 Reclaimer: clearly audible sond
2015-12-01 21:46 Reclaimer: the bpm goes up to 171
2015-12-01 21:46 Reclaimer: so its weird
2015-12-01 21:46 Reclaimer: nothing i can do about it
2015-12-01 21:47 Reclaimer: 01:40:660 (1) - this note is also fine
2015-12-01 21:47 Lasse: 01:41:860 (2) - still at 25% it seems that the sliderhits dont perfectly match the sounds
2015-12-01 21:48 Reclaimer: 01:35:621 (6) - here do you think a triple is appropriate?
2015-12-01 21:48 Lasse: might be fine, there is sth audible after all
2015-12-01 21:49 Lasse: 01:44:834 (9,10) - space out a bit more or make 9 a 1/2 slider
2015-12-01 21:51 Reclaimer: 01:41:860 (2) - here added a redline and made the bpm 181
2015-12-01 21:51 Reclaimer: seems to have fixed the issue
2015-12-01 21:52 Reclaimer: alright
2015-12-01 21:52 Lasse: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/sCkXljG.jpg 01:52:149 (6,7) -
2015-12-01 21:52 Reclaimer: fixed 01:45:022 (10) -
2015-12-01 21:52 Lasse: 01:52:149 (6,7) -
2015-12-01 21:52 Lasse: 6/7 would be better to continue the pattern
2015-12-01 21:52 Lasse: would fit better there
2015-12-01 21:54 Lasse: since the music doesnt change at all
2015-12-01 21:55 Lasse: 01:54:212 (1) - /// 01:54:025 (8) - 8 is much "weaker" but spaced way higher, might be better to change a bit
2015-12-01 21:56 Lasse: 01:55:713 (1) - better straight or sth. current shape implies a movement down/right afterwards but the player is actually supposed to use slider leniency to hit 2 at a different spot
2015-12-01 21:57 Lasse: maybe adjust 7 then too to match => https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/AzW0cRV.jpg
2015-12-01 21:57 Lasse: 01:57:213 (1,2) - is better as it makes way nicer angle
2015-12-01 21:58 Reclaimer: alright
2015-12-01 21:59 Reclaimer: sorr havent been replying
2015-12-01 21:59 Reclaimer: was just fixing all the stuff
2015-12-01 21:59 Lasse: 01:58:714 (1,3,5) - make the distance between them the same, would look much cleaner. => put 3 more to the center between 1-5 or move 5 towards them
2015-12-01 22:00 Lasse: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/WyzdtHF.jpg doesnt affect distance or anything, just looks cleaner
2015-12-01 22:00 Reclaimer: fixed
2015-12-01 22:01 Lasse: 02:03:215 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - nc spam should make this better to read and look nicer. goes well with the intensity anyways
2015-12-01 22:02 Lasse: stream would be better if it curved at 02:05:466 (8) - instead since that beat is stronger
2015-12-01 22:02 Lasse: + nc 02:05:466 (8) -
2015-12-01 22:02 Reclaimer: on each note or every 3
2015-12-01 22:02 Lasse: all 3
2015-12-01 22:02 Lasse: so each one of the x-stack things has its own combo
2015-12-01 22:03 Lasse: all notes would make it way harder to read
2015-12-01 22:03 Lasse: 02:03:778 (4,7) - those nc
2015-12-01 22:03 Lasse: and no nc on 02:04:716 (1) - probably, put it on the start of the stream instead
2015-12-01 22:03 Reclaimer: http://puu.sh/lFOmx/b40af6a754.jpg
2015-12-01 22:03 Reclaimer: like this?
2015-12-01 22:04 Lasse: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/rINjSIL.jpg
2015-12-01 22:08 Lasse: also maybe nc stream like this https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/3bk9BnO.jpg and make a rounder shape
2015-12-01 22:10 Lasse: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/pMjCb7w.jpg shape like this might look nice here for the stream
2015-12-01 22:10 Reclaimer: think i'm keeping the current shape
2015-12-01 22:11 Lasse: 02:09:216 (1) - silence the end of the spinner /10% vol
2015-12-01 22:11 Reclaimer: fixed
2015-12-01 22:12 Lasse: 02:12:189 (1) - following. well played andrea :v
2015-12-01 22:12 Lasse: it's fine though
2015-12-01 22:12 Reclaimer: lol
2015-12-01 22:12 Lasse: 02:18:226 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - nc thingy like before
2015-12-01 22:13 Lasse: 02:28:629 (7,1,2,3,4) - curves in way that makes it a bit awkward to play since it kinda resets the momentum etc. at 1-2
2015-12-01 22:15 Lasse: maybe more like https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/ixXVvso.jpg
2015-12-01 22:16 Reclaimer: alright
2015-12-01 22:16 Lasse: 02:42:573 (1) - following, maybe nc like this? https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/rtvsd6p.jpg way better to read
2015-12-01 22:18 Reclaimer: eh i think its fine how it is
2015-12-01 22:18 Reclaimer: the nc spam would seem random
2015-12-01 22:18 Reclaimer: in terms of the music
2015-12-01 22:19 Lasse: 03:24:194 (1) - should definitely not be spaced less than the 1/4 before, just use the same or eventually higher
2015-12-01 22:19 Lasse: oh it happens cause autostack with 3
2015-12-01 22:20 Reclaimer: yeah
2015-12-01 22:20 Lasse: just put 3 in line with the stream then
2015-12-01 22:20 Lasse: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/CKHoTLm.jpg
2015-12-01 22:20 Lasse: and 5 too
2015-12-01 22:20 Lasse: and it would look neat
2015-12-01 22:21 Reclaimer: flows better too
2015-12-01 22:23 Lasse: 03:27:194 (1,2,3) - feels so random with angles and placemtn. how about using 120° for 2 and3? like https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/mhekrQA.jpg
2015-12-01 22:24 Lasse: 03:39:194 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - here nc stuff would actually fit with the music and really aid readability
2015-12-01 22:25 Reclaimer: yeah
2015-12-01 22:25 Lasse: 03:40:881 (2) - nc somewhere in the stream would hurt either
2015-12-01 22:25 Reclaimer: i fixed the sliders
2015-12-01 22:25 Lasse: wouldnt*
2015-12-01 22:26 Reclaimer: stream is 15 notes tho
2015-12-01 22:26 Reclaimer: it'd be split 7/8
2015-12-01 22:26 Reclaimer: i guess its fine
2015-12-01 22:27 Reclaimer: 03:41:631 (1) - nc here
2015-12-01 22:27 Reclaimer: bc 03:40:881 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is all 1 shape
2015-12-01 22:27 Reclaimer: then 03:41:631 (1) - this breaks the shape
2015-12-01 22:27 Lasse: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/7NA4Tn9.jpg like that for this part maybe
2015-12-01 22:27 Lasse: nc on 03:40:694 - is not needed sine it belongs to 03:40:506 (2) - musically
2015-12-01 22:28 Reclaimer: http://puu.sh/lFQaV/6abff3853b.jpg
2015-12-01 22:28 Lasse: 03:42:194 (16) - this needs nc just based of music etc
2015-12-01 22:29 Reclaimer: putting nc 03:41:631 (1) - here bf it breaks the circle shape 1-8 make
2015-12-01 22:29 Reclaimer: bc*
2015-12-01 22:30 Lasse: seems fine that way
2015-12-01 22:30 Lasse: 03:45:006 (7,1) - stack would make transition to way lower sv better
2015-12-01 22:31 Lasse: 03:46:511 (4,1) - spacing increase here for same effect
2015-12-01 22:31 Reclaimer: kk mfixed
2015-12-01 22:32 Lasse: 04:06:223 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - nc thing again
2015-12-01 22:33 Lasse: music clearly implies nc every 3 notes
2015-12-01 22:33 Lasse: just as the patterns you mapped do
2015-12-01 22:33 Reclaimer: ye
2015-12-01 22:35 Lasse: 04:23:367 (8,9) - this should be like 04:22:992 (4,5) - with spacing/angle
2015-12-01 22:35 Reclaimer: that reall fks the flow up tho
2015-12-01 22:36 Lasse: also nc on 5 and 9 since the guitars change, just for the same reason you did the spacing stuff
2015-12-01 22:36 Reclaimer: okie
2015-12-01 22:37 Reclaimer: 04:25:335 (1) - added a nc here
2015-12-01 22:37 Reclaimer: and here 04:32:826 (1) -
2015-12-01 22:39 Lasse: you could probnably make that pattern better to play with some changes while keeping the same distances, to not be so lienar and stuff
2015-12-01 22:40 Lasse: maybe 30° or sth https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/F61Mulg.jpg
2015-12-01 22:40 Reclaimer: that doesnt look very playable lol
2015-12-01 22:41 Lasse: follow it lol
2015-12-01 22:42 Reclaimer: that angle is pretty harsh
2015-12-01 22:42 Lasse: it https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/kgDg3lb.jpg
2015-12-01 22:42 Lasse: talking about hard angles, make 04:24:866 (7,1,2,3,4) - a pentagon, would make the flow better imo
2015-12-01 22:44 Lasse: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/D5Td9sd.jpg
2015-12-01 22:45 Reclaimer: i think its fine how it is
2015-12-01 22:46 Reclaimer: http://puu.sh/lFRwE/552b5aefb9.jpg
2015-12-01 22:46 Lasse: seems fine
2015-12-01 22:46 Lasse: but slider could be offscreen a bit in 4:3
2015-12-01 22:47 Reclaimer: hey i have to go for a bit so just keep pointing stuff out here in the chat and i'll see to it when i get back
2015-12-01 22:47 Reclaimer: i adjusted the slider a bit
2015-12-01 22:48 Lasse: 04:32:451 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - shape doesnt go well here imo
2015-12-01 22:48 Lasse: sure
2015-12-01 22:48 Reclaimer: alright be back in a bit
2015-12-01 22:48 Lasse: kk, ill just leave some suggestions here
2015-12-01 22:49 Lasse: 04:54:039 (6) - pls dont overlap like that
2015-12-01 22:49 Lasse: 04:54:227 (1) - if you really feel that a spinenr belongs here, at least start on the blue tick and put a note here
2015-12-01 22:50 Lasse: 05:01:909 (2,3) - this overlap looks bad
2015-12-01 22:51 Lasse: 05:16:526 (6,1,2) - move 6 a bit for better transition into stream https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/8BgvCcG.jpg
2015-12-01 22:51 Lasse: 05:18:187 (1,1) - really slight overlaps look bad most the time, like here
2015-12-01 22:52 Lasse: 05:21:205 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - nc thing again
2015-12-01 22:53 Lasse: 05:45:237 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - know already
2015-12-01 22:53 Lasse: 05:49:729 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -