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TicClick

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Joined February 2011

TicClick 2015-12-11T07:56:50+00:00

pieguyn wrote:
[TicClick's Harder]
00:49:250 (1) - touching hp bar. move to x304 y8? (don't forget to fix spacing after) -- doesn't https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4110985
01:14:514 (1,2) - tbh i read it as 1/2 when i played it lol. add note at 01:14:987 or increase distance? -- added a note
02:19:882 (5) - maybe position it more like this... ttps://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4110744 ? decreasing spacing on 02:19:724 (4,5) after jump from 02:19:566 (3) doesn't seem to fit ur usual flow imo. -- there, fixed

http://puu.sh/lRltv/9914ca5ad5.zip

pieguyn

2,020 posts

Joined May 2009

pieguyn 2015-12-11T08:09:48+00:00

am i the only one who doesn't play on widescreen? ._.//

TicClick

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4,416 posts

Joined February 2011

TicClick 2015-12-11T08:18:06+00:00

probably

Voxnola

729 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

Voxnola 2015-12-11T09:08:18+00:00

pieguyn mod

pieguyn wrote:
[Insane]
00:24:619 (7,8,1) - i'm wondering if this rhythm would fit better for pattern like this... http://puu.sh/lRf1V/ff0cdad328.jpg the rest of the pattern follow drums (i.e. 00:22:724 (1,2) ). so, i think it would feel really good to have a "stress" feeling at 00:24:777 to match the offbeat drum. or, u could try this rhythm... http://puu.sh/lRfa8/87a3353004.jpg if u wanna hit the downbeat. i just feel there should be smth at 00:24:777 and there isn't, might just be me I'm not sure I like the idea of the offbeat kick having more precedence than the clap in the intro. If I do this, I can't have all those sick 1/1 pauses
00:34:724 (6,7) - same as 00:24:619
00:40:408 (5) - NC for downbeat imo yes
00:43:724 (4,5) - make into slider? same idea as 00:24:619, i think a "stress" feeling would be really good here The jumps after the streaming are for that initial "Yep, this is dnb B)" feel.
00:52:882 (5) - remove note? for 2 reason: there isn't a cymbal here in the music, and imo making a different rhythm than "1/2 everywhere" would make this first part more interesting to play bc it's a softer part. i think a rest here would feel good building up to 00:53:040, maybe it's just me. I have to have my magic soft-finishes ;-; else map would be better off not existing, but I do have an excellent idea for this. Will try to implement a situation where the circle is removed tomorrow
00:54:935 (3,4) - same idea as 00:43:724
00:58:250 (1) - maybe, remove it and add note at 00:58:408 ? or, you could maybe use the same 3/4 rhythm from 00:53:040 (1,2) 00:47:987 (1,2) etc. here since i notice you use it every 4 measures, but it's not here. Yes, you are very correct, fixed.
01:28:092 (7,8) - i don't think this sharp jump fits "calm" flow in this part very well... mb consider another pattern? for example http://puu.sh/lRftR/3f68774238.jpg It's only a sharp jump if you play it like it's a sharp jump (ovals)
01:31:093 (2) - remove note? keep consistency with others & imo it plays more natural for slow part The consistency here lies with the end of this section. The halfway point has an extra circle.
01:35:356 (8) - mb try position like this? http://puu.sh/lRfDm/0135220eb6.jpg I'd lose a lot of horizontal motion going to that 1/1 pause
01:50:040 (8,9,10) - imo distance of this jump should be greater, to fit the energy from the song. not sure i understand reason for putting it close neither do I, but w/e fix
02:22:092 (3,4,5) - flow here is really off imo. o.o could fix by move 02:22:408 (4) to x272 y40, or a lot of other ways no this is awesome
02:28:961 (5,6) - i'm all for 1/4 jumps, but this one feels really random, doesn't seem match anything, and also inconsistent since u didn't use this kind of jump anywhere else in the map. any reason it's not just stack like the others? No, I have no idea what I was thinking. I guess it was for difficulty, The map gets gradually more difficult in the main sections. I nerfed, but I really like this for some reason >~>
02:32:198 (3,4,5,6) - what about pattern like this... http://puu.sh/lRgwF/a933f58420.jpg instead? imo it feels a lot more smooth than back-and-forth Back-and-forth is more ambiguous than you might think >~> The whole map's based on them
02:46:724 (9) - x272 y240? equidistant is better structure, imo oh my farking gawd, I could've sworn that's exactly what I did wtf

map seems mostly fine.

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brb crying /me is sensitive to that word #blameDamnae

Thank you so much for modding, pieguy(n)! I appreciate it ^^

(will update tomorrow with that experiment too)
UPDATED

Last edited by Voxnola 2015-12-11T20:13:03+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

-kevincela-

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-kevincela- 2015-12-11T19:59:29+00:00

pieguyn wrote:
[-kevincela-'s Hard]
02:13:250 (3,4) - i'd recommend remove this jump, it's the only place in this part of the map where u use a jump in this position. Actually the jump is used in 02:10:724 (3) - as well, and I think it is small enough almost not to get considered as a jump, so I'd prefer to leave this as is
02:29:514 (2) - touching hp barFixed

Thanks!

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Kyubey

osu! Alumni

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Joined December 2012

Kyubey 2015-12-11T21:15:17+00:00

[Easy]
01:00:303 (3,1) - i don't think it's a good example of overlapping in easies. it stacks with slider tail and beginners can be confused by that amout of circles in same place and click the wrong side of slider, better to unstack
01:22:724 (1,2) - 1/2 gap between sliders is ok, but between slider and note it can have pretty low hit window for a beginner, since they aren't that used to this game to catch a 1/2 note, i recommend to replace it with long slider
02:06:303 (1,2,3) - better to not make such a flow in easy difficulty since (3) will confuse 50% of beginners or even more while they move the cursor to (2)
02:23:987 (1,1,1) - do not make such a complicated and overlapping patterns in easies, it will definitely confuse the player, make it not overlapping
02:44:198 (1,1,1,1) - same goes here
[Normal]
00:31:566 (3,4) - visually spacing between them is even lower than 00:30:303 (1,2) - there. this slider is pretty short so approach circle does really show there to start clicking it and normal players are still beginners, and due to that i insist to change it to something without reverting flow. like this http://kyubey.s-ul.eu/btmRqN8u.png
00:37:882 (1,2) - same
00:40:487 (1,1) - gap between spinner and next object is way too low, make it 2/1 or bigger
00:52:724 (3,1) - make them less overlapping? (3) hides more than half of (1) body here. 01:10:408 (3,1) - this looks much better
01:23:356 - 01:43:566 - is it really necessary to map this part in minor diff? it has pretty quiet beats which don't sound appealing to click for beginners, sounds calm and can give some rest to player
01:52:408 (1,2,3,1) - don't mix the same stacks with different time gaps, it's very inconsistent and will definitely confuse players
02:00:777 (6,7,1) - and better to unstack it for consistency too
[-kevincela-'s Hard]
00:36:514 (1) - i think it will be better to finish some slider at this point since 1/3 note appears pretty unexpected and can be hard to click in time
01:10:408 (3) - it could end on 1/3 tick
01:19:724 - 01:23:198 - sounds like you forgot to hitsound this part, it sounds really empty
02:19:882 (3,1) - almost all your stacks were 1/1, and this looks confusing with different time gap. how about unstacking?
[TicCl!ck's Harder]
01:36:935 (4) - ну на 1/3 тике же заканчивается
[Insane]
Why not Lunatic?
02:28:724 (4,5,6) - you never made such a pattern in this difficulty, and it plays horrible, looks similarly, change it please

TicClick

Global Moderator

4,416 posts

Joined February 2011

TicClick 2015-12-11T22:24:09+00:00

спасибо, только там и не поправил (кажется) http://puu.sh/lS2OR/1fd387b80f.zip

Voxnola

729 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

Voxnola 2015-12-11T22:26:56+00:00

Kyubey mod

Kyubey wrote:
[Easy]
01:00:303 (3,1) - i don't think it's a good example of overlapping in easies. it stacks with slider tail and beginners can be confused by that amout of circles in same place and click the wrong side of slider, better to unstack fix
01:22:724 (1,2) - 1/2 gap between sliders is ok, but between slider and note it can have pretty low hit window for a beginner, since they aren't that used to this game to catch a 1/2 note, i recommend to replace it with long slider I feel like this is acceptable >~> It's consistent
02:06:303 (1,2,3) - better to not make such a flow in easy difficulty since (3) will confuse 50% of beginners or even more while they move the cursor to (2) fix
02:23:987 (1,1,1) - do not make such a complicated and overlapping patterns in easies, it will definitely confuse the player, make it not overlapping fix
02:44:198 (1,1,1,1) - same goes here fix
[Normal]
00:31:566 (3,4) - visually spacing between them is even lower than 00:30:303 (1,2) - there. this slider is pretty short so approach circle does really show there to start clicking it and normal players are still beginners, and due to that i insist to change it to something without reverting flow. like this http://kyubey.s-ul.eu/btmRqN8u.png fix
00:37:882 (1,2) - same I feel this one better matches the previous
00:40:487 (1,1) - gap between spinner and next object is way too low, make it 2/1 or bigger fix
00:52:724 (3,1) - make them less overlapping? (3) hides more than half of (1) body here. 01:10:408 (3,1) - this looks much better
01:23:356 - 01:43:566 - is it really necessary to map this part in minor diff? it has pretty quiet beats which don't sound appealing to click for beginners, sounds calm and can give some rest to player I deleted the first half like in easy diff. I hated it lol. Nice "ok to delete" suggestion aaaay
01:52:408 (1,2,3,1) - don't mix the same stacks with different time gaps, it's very inconsistent and will definitely confuse players fix
02:00:777 (6,7,1) - and better to unstack it for consistency too fix
[Insane]
Why not Lunatic? oh yeah this is touhou
02:28:724 (4,5,6) - you never made such a pattern in this difficulty, and it plays horrible, looks similarly, change it please ;-; fix

ty ty Kyubey ^^

UPDATED 4/5 (BSS IS A SHITTER)

Last edited by Voxnola 2015-12-13T18:27:12+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

-kevincela-

Elite Mapper

2,790 posts

Joined February 2010

-kevincela- 2015-12-13T13:38:41+00:00

Kyubey wrote:
[-kevincela-'s Hard]
00:36:514 (1) - i think it will be better to finish some slider at this point since 1/3 note appears pretty unexpected and can be hard to click in time I'd prefer to keep the beats separated here, though i moved away a little the slider from the note to make the 1/3 switch a bit more noticeable
01:10:408 (3) - it could end on 1/3 tick I think it would stay better as a 1/2, there's no need to make the hold longer imo :p
01:19:724 - 01:23:198 - sounds like you forgot to hitsound this part, it sounds really empty ye, i forgot that ticclick's difficulty here has a spinner, so it doesen't really have any hitsounds xP fixed
02:19:882 (3,1) - almost all your stacks were 1/1, and this looks confusing with different time gap. how about unstacking? ok

Thanks!

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Voxnola

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Voxnola 2015-12-13T21:31:49+00:00

Now all updated
bss working

Kyubey

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Kyubey 2015-12-14T17:16:18+00:00

Bubbled.

Voxnola

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Voxnola 2015-12-14T17:26:20+00:00

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Side

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Side 2015-12-14T19:21:55+00:00

<3

Good luck! :v

Voxnola

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Topic Starter

Voxnola 2015-12-14T19:24:26+00:00

Side wrote:
<3

Good luck! :v

ty for heart

Xilver15

Former osu! Champion: 2015

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Xilver15 2015-12-15T04:50:43+00:00

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Pho

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Pho 2015-12-15T22:22:08+00:00

oooooo

Yohanes

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Yohanes 2015-12-16T08:50:51+00:00

a wonderful time

Secretpipe

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Secretpipe 2015-12-19T11:59:03+00:00

dnb touhou aaa

Okoratu

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Okoratu 2015-12-19T12:23:29+00:00

may i check this or do you have someone else for that already lol

[Lunatic]
dude
- HP 5.5 is waaaaay too forgiving for this i'd suggest at least 6.5
according to current meta your od is kinda low but uh i guess that depends on style or something
- 01:30:619 (2,1) - 01:30:777 (3,2) - are you just a messy person because uh 01:29:987 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - on their own are a pretty clean pattern and then you just semi-overlap circles and that doesn't look thaat nice imo lol
- 01:46:961 (4) - 01:57:066 (4) - uhh this one seems wrong considering how you did 01:47:356 (7,8) - 01:47:987 (10,11) - i guess you know what i mean lol
- 02:03:777 (1) - increasing volume in increments on this one like on the spinner in the beginning could be cool since... it's about the same thing
- idk for things like 02:20:040 (6,7,8) - i was asking myself why exactly you chose to do that for the rest of the kiai but it's like nothing i would force people to change im just interested why you decided to change the way you stack some of the triplets and not how other work
- 02:12:461 (7,8) - idk this felt waay too linear coming after 02:11:671 (2,3,4,5,6) - so i'd suggest something like http://puu.sh/m1DQa/b71f0f38b0.jpg
and lastly tbh i don't think your 2 combospam flower patterns are necessary to combospam
it just distorts the way hp works for just that pattern a lot and since you only have 4 colors you even get repetitions within the stream, which i think doesn't look that nice either...

[harder]
01:19:566 (1) - tbh having this so far up and a spinner becoming visible can be really troubling when you don't know how long that spinner is , an arrangement that would allow taking a shortcut towards the middle of the screen would probably be appeciated by those
02:02:356 (1) - i don't understand this rhythm choice, like it plays alright and stuff but wouldn't mapping the downbeat with that drum and piano make more sense or ...?
some ppl might complain that AR is 8 but tbh i like that about this diff a lot and i don't think you're likely to increase it anyways

[hard]
00:35:987 (2,1) - lol you don't do any 1/4 stuff in this diff but then force an 1/3 doublet on the player when mapping the rest of these with sliderends??

[normal]
01:49:882 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 02:00:619 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - can you uhhh split those up somehow, these are really really long 1/2 sequences and somehow managing an 1/1 break somewhere in this it'd be pretty balanced with the other patterns in this

Voxnola

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Topic Starter

Voxnola 2015-12-21T21:07:34+00:00

Oko mod

Okoratu wrote:
may i check this or do you have someone else for that already lol

[Lunatic]
dude
HP 5.5 is waaaaay too forgiving for this i'd suggest at least 6.5 well ok, I went for 6, I'd rather have players forget that hp exists
according to current meta your od is kinda low but uh i guess that depends on style or something I keep od
01:30:619 (2,1) - 01:30:777 (3,2) - are you just a messy person because uh 01:29:987 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - on their own are a pretty clean pattern and then you just semi-overlap circles and that doesn't look thaat nice imo lol They were meant to be an "extension" of the previous circles. I'll just make them closer so it looks meta.
01:46:961 (4) - 01:57:066 (4) - uhh this one seems wrong considering how you did 01:47:356 (7,8) - 01:47:987 (10,11) - i guess you know what i mean lol They are snapped correctly, but there's red ticks where appropriate. The piano snaps to blue, and then purple because the song is drunk. Please listen at 25% because I do want your thoughts on the snapping here.
02:03:777 (1) - increasing volume in increments on this one like on the spinner in the beginning could be cool since... it's about the same thing okie
idk for things like 02:20:040 (6,7,8) - i was asking myself why exactly you chose to do that for the rest of the kiai but it's like nothing i would force people to change im just interested why you decided to change the way you stack some of the triplets and not how other work This is a good point though. I originally just did it for variation from the similar part before, though I wasn't consistent with it. More stacks are removed
02:12:461 (7,8) - idk this felt waay too linear coming after 02:11:671 (2,3,4,5,6) - so i'd suggest something like http://puu.sh/m1DQa/b71f0f38b0.jpg I really want to keep the transition from slider to slider smooth (having no sharp turns) The reason why the others work is because they're so close to the next slider. These transitions require a bit more momentum so they're spaced a bit more
and lastly tbh i don't think your 2 combospam flower patterns are necessary to combospam
it just distorts the way hp works for just that pattern a lot and since you only have 4 colors you even get repetitions within the stream, which i think doesn't look that nice either... It's a really cool effect when your hp bar shoots up behind the gradually increasing cymbal sounds. It is like "starting anew" after the midpoint of the sections. Also, this pattern is kind of a signature >w>

[normal]
01:49:882 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 02:00:619 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - can you uhhh split those up somehow, these are really really long 1/2 sequences and somehow managing an 1/1 break somewhere in this it'd be pretty balanced with the other patterns in this Added 1/1 break to the first one, The second has an extra 1/1 sliider before it, so I think it's more appropriate. I'm not sure if turning a 1/2 slider into a circle will do much except for remove a hitsound.

Thank you Oko for mod ^^

UPDATED 3/4

Last edited by Voxnola 2015-12-21T22:09:34+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

TicClick

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TicClick 2015-12-21T22:03:59+00:00

Okoratu

Okoratu wrote:
[harder]
01:19:566 (1) - tbh having this so far up and a spinner becoming visible can be really troubling when you don't know how long that spinner is , an arrangement that would allow taking a shortcut towards the middle of the screen would probably be appeciated by those -- should be better now
02:02:356 (1) - i don't understand this rhythm choice, like it plays alright and stuff but wouldn't mapping the downbeat with that drum and piano make more sense or ...? -- well, since I have 01:44:671 (1,2,3) and 01:54:777 (1,3)...
some ppl might complain that AR is 8 but tbh i like that about this diff a lot and i don't think you're likely to increase it anyways -- that's right

http://puu.sh/m42jw/6a078af40e.zip

Kinshara

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Kinshara 2015-12-21T22:54:33+00:00

行け

TicClick

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TicClick 2015-12-22T09:09:06+00:00

сахар масло

-kevincela-

Elite Mapper

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-kevincela- 2015-12-25T20:31:23+00:00

fixed, thanks

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420,344,162935,5,0,1:2:0:0:
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Okoratu

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Okoratu 2015-12-25T21:05:20+00:00

about the piano pattern im really unsure about what it does for me it doesn't snap to 1/4 at all so i'd prefer you doing a pattern similar to 01:47:987 (10,11) - for these to be honest

edit and HP could still be higher tbh, I don't want ppl to die and stuff but right now it just doesn't require that much skill to pass everything that's supposed to be a bit tricky

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Voxnola

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Voxnola 2015-12-25T21:08:45+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
about the piano pattern im really unsure about what it does for me it doesn't snap to 1/4 at all so i'd prefer you doing a pattern similar to 01:47:987 (10,11) - for these to be honest

oh yeah, you are correct mb >>

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Okoratu 2015-12-26T00:39:47+00:00

flangefemale.wav

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Voxnola 2015-12-26T00:41:11+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
flangefemale.wav

hue

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Natteke desu 2015-12-26T01:20:25+00:00

TicClick wrote:
сахар масло

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLJGQtdG4Ys

nicely done

make these collab parts for demetori song oko too plz

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Voxnola 2015-12-26T01:30:07+00:00

dw Elvis, I gotchu

LigerZero

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LigerZero 2015-12-26T07:52:53+00:00

Congrats your map Ranked......

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Yohanes 2015-12-26T13:36:13+00:00

Congratz~ <3

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Tari 2015-12-29T20:21:40+00:00

Hi Naitoshi.

Just a few things to note. The bolded ones are things you should consider changing.

[General]

spinnerspin.wav has a delay of over 5ms. Hitsounds need a delay under 5ms
Please consider cutting the mp3, some difficulties use less than the minimal 80% required.

[Easy]

01:00:619 (1,1,1,1) - Colorhax doesn't seem to make sense. People usually use it to make slider velocity changes more readable or to highlight a particular note or pattern. Any reason behind using it here?
01:20:829 (1,1,1,1,2) - ^
02:23:987 (1,1,1) - ^ Nice usages would be what you did at 02:25:882 (1) -
02:44:198 (1) - ^ Not going to mention all of them but you get what I mean.
02:01:250 (1) - The shape of this slightly bothers me. Could you make it overhead the previous slider?

[Normal]

00:47:198 (2,3) - Rhythms like this are strange as they don't follow the piano well, maybe rework to follow the piano sound? You could try this rhythm : http://puu.sh/mcO9F.jpg
00:57:303 (2,3) - ^
01:17:040 (1,2,3) - ^
01:00:619 (1,1,1) - Again with Colorhax.
01:23:356 (1) - Inconsistent comboing with other difficulties. This part has one but the same part in easy 01:23:356 (2) - doesn't.
02:46:724 (1) - ^
01:52:882 (2) - Move this note upward to be safe. It looks partially off-screen.

[Lunatic]

Could you increase the volume of the finishes? they are barely audible.
00:53:356 (2,3,4) - The symmetry looks really bad here, you should probably center these notes.
01:02:514 (1,1,1,1,1) - Colorhaxing here actually makes sense
01:08:829 (4,5,1) - Triplet usage here seems a bit overmapped. If you were to use it anywhere it would be mostly like at 01:10:250 (2) - where the piano allows for such sound. Maybe remove some notes?
01:18:935 (3,4,5) - ^
01:20:198 (3,4,5) - It would be better to convert 5 to a triplet because of the strong piano sound.
02:33:461 (3,4,5) - ^

Other difficulties are fine for me.

Please fix the general things up. Mapset is mostly good but it wouldn't hurt to get more mods.

Good Luck!

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Okoratu 2015-12-29T20:28:09+00:00

what? all difficulties are mapped until 84.1% of the song, the criteria is there to prevent unnecessarily big, unmapped parts at the end of the mp3.
spinnerspin is actually weakly fading in the whole time, you will hear a sound if you highlight the first 5ms and play them on their own so i didn't consider it as "unacceptably delayed".
And it's not even a hitsound, because a spinning sound isn't supposed to have an impact.

my 2 cents to what tari stated above

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Voxnola 2015-12-29T21:17:36+00:00

~~rip~~ wait huh? I'm sorry?

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Voxnola 2015-12-30T06:44:01+00:00

For your general

Tari wrote:
Hi Naitoshi.

Just a few things to note. The bolded ones are things you should consider changing.

[General]

Are these your grounds for dqing? Or something else?
spinnerspin.wav has a delay of over 5ms. Hitsounds need a delay under 5ms Check again

Please consider cutting the mp3, some difficulties use less than the minimal 80% required. I'm sorry? I've never heard of something getting dq'd for a break and outro time. Many maps should've been dq'd for it. There are zero things said about how break time adds to outro time. There are no conditions for breaks in that rule. There are only conditions for intro and conditions for outro. Technically, I'm using that 5% of the audio file for a break (key word "using"; that part of the audio is being USED as a break). I refuse to cut an mp3 for something as petty and irrelevant to quality as outro time all for a rank. That's like an "F YOU" to the artist and song regardless of if I took the time to map this or not.

Edit: [took out opinions that nobody needs to read]

Thank you for modding ^^

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Tari 2015-12-30T09:07:48+00:00

The hitsound delay suggestion (rule) is taken from from the ranking criteria. If you want to open a discussion of the rule, please create a thread in the ranking criteria subforum. Generally the rule was put in place for hitsounds to provide proper feedback for players. Spinner sounds do give feedback to the player that they are actually spinning something. Unless you have a special reason for keeping it, you need to change it (which I don't see you providing yet).
I will link the criteria and image of the rule for you :
RC Link : https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria
Image : http://puu.sh/mduem.png

Also the delay can be seen here : http://puu.sh/mdutU.png
Look at the Selection Start time.

About the mp3 usage I mentioned, its not something you must change. But why not change it? Reducing the map size will hurt your mapset? I don't think so. I can even help you reduce the mp3 file if you want.

Hope that clarifies everything.

Voxnola

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Voxnola 2015-12-30T09:44:31+00:00

almost. It should be reworded as "a delay is seen here" though.
A delay in a hitsound could be defined as the beginning of the hitsound having absolutely 0 sound for a period of time. I don't believe there is a delay because at no point in time does the hitsound not have sound in the beginning.
I do not want to open up a discussion for this rule because the hitsound isn't delayed at all
There happens to be sound at 0ms (loudened gradual sound) but this is no delay. I'm simply keeping a crescendo within a hitsound.
Now there WAS a significant delay with the original wav and modders caught this. And I cut it to a point after the first part where I HEARD sound, not when I first saw it in an editor (zoomed later). This is why the cut is like this.
This is how the file looks close up

Tari wrote:
Generally the rule was put in place for hitsounds to provide proper feedback for players. Spinner sounds do give feedback to the player that they are actually spinning something.

And I'm sure there's tons of ranked maps with silenced spinners.

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Tari 2015-12-30T17:11:16+00:00

Thank you for providing good reasoning on the hitsound.

Anyways sorry if i was a bit harsh, I just wanted some of the issues to be dealt with and the map to be the best quality it can be before it is ranked. If all my issues are adressed with your free to move this forward.

I wish you luck in requalification.

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Kinshara 2015-12-31T02:07:54+00:00

Tari wtf your ava made me think you were Lust. 😯

Anyway good luck Naitoshi, lmk if I can do anything outside the client... lol

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