Because it's what I would fakeclaim if I was scum.GuyInFreezer wrote:
If you're town why the help do you care about your claim sounding fake?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
lmao trying to scumpaint me for not roleclaiming.
it's gonna be taken as a fakeclaim anyway because it'd be an obvious thing to fakeclaim.
You're telling the truth after all.
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MBomb
So that still doesn't help me.
You could be mafia wanting to out the ammount of roles.
I don't understand this strategy nor why or how it'll help us.
You could be mafia wanting to out the ammount of roles.
I don't understand this strategy nor why or how it'll help us.
More factions = less chances of having duplicate roles as town.
By the way, one of the factions is a Grey Goo.
No other goos exist.
for fuck's sakepieguyn wrote:
what GIF said is theoretically sound
"scum knowing all the roles they need to target" is a poor argument in a game where practically everyone is going to have some sort of PR
same thing with "lol PRs being killed N1", especially when there could be up to 3 kills/night.
please don't make me wall theory about why D1 massclaim is a good idea in this setup. you're also missing that the point of doing it instantaneously is so that scum don't have any time to plan a claim/are forced into a suboptimal claim that might fuck them over.
Meanwhile im starting to regret inning to this game if we're just gonna game the system instead of playing actual mafia.
Non-closed-setup will always have an optimization of playing.
But not enough optimization to just gamebreak with it alone.
But not enough optimization to just gamebreak with it alone.
MBomb
MBomb
Keep the claims going
MBomb
Actually, this claim does make a bit of sense.
I say we trust MB for now, but keep watching him.
I say we trust MB for now, but keep watching him.
Claim
It's very antitown to not claim when massclaim is going.
It's very antitown to not claim when massclaim is going.
He just asked to claim your role, no need to get that deep.
I got only vanilla roles so take a guess.
I got only vanilla roles so take a guess.
Dunno, this seems way too crazy.
I still think GIF and pieguyn are scum.
I don't believe that you can easily break the system enough to find all the scum with this in forum mafia and probably chat/F2F would be beter (i.e. metal sonic isn't around and probably wont be around for a few hours, so he can very well read up and make something up if scum). This is not optimal and both GIF and pie should know this, this wont work, and while i can believe GIF's claim, that doesn't mean I believe he's town or has town motivation for this strategy.
I still think GIF and pieguyn are scum.
I don't believe that you can easily break the system enough to find all the scum with this in forum mafia and probably chat/F2F would be beter (i.e. metal sonic isn't around and probably wont be around for a few hours, so he can very well read up and make something up if scum). This is not optimal and both GIF and pie should know this, this wont work, and while i can believe GIF's claim, that doesn't mean I believe he's town or has town motivation for this strategy.
Plus, I want to know why you ditched town cop which is one of the strongest role in this game.
Also i love how pieguy says everyone's going to "be a PR" and we got 2 VTs already.
I can see where are you getting at, poor of us.
It's not, COAT is.GuyInFreezer wrote:
Plus, I want to know why you ditched town cop which is one of the strongest role in this game.
MBomb
So you better get started on this if you want to convince me that this is actually a good idea.pieguyn wrote:
please don't make me wall theory about why D1 massclaim is a good idea in this setup
Mafia are the only anti-town faction in this game that are very threatening because of the consecutive nightkills.
Third parties can't kill, goos can't kill, and aliens iirc can only make one nightkill. Any anti-mafia roles are very strong in this game.
Third parties can't kill, goos can't kill, and aliens iirc can only make one nightkill. Any anti-mafia roles are very strong in this game.
tbh I can't see both GIF and pieguy as Mafia/Alien buddies, it's a big risk I doubt they'll be wanting to run, given there could be another killing faction (in case they are one).
Alternatively, we could lynch one to clear the other.
If you believe my clairvoyant claim, I can only be town or mafia.
Unless one is buddying the other, in that case, I take back my words.
Topic Starter
And everyone chose to take the democratic way of finding the culprits. I'm just glad I'm hiding here instead of being out there... where I can be killed... that's scary.
Meanwhile, I am only able to find calculus books...
Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC. That is exactly 12 days from now on.
Deadline for confirmations is exactly 24 hours after this post, December 13th, 9:40PM UTC.
Meanwhile, I am only able to find calculus books...
Votecount 1.1
- Magic Bomb - [2] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer
DakeDekaane [1] - Drezi
GuyInFreezer [1] - Sakura
metal sonic1 [1] - Ace Timing
Skullmaster4 [1] - Navizel
Ace Timing [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
pieguyn [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -
Frostings [0] -
Not Voting [6] - -[Jess]-, metal sonic1, Frostings, Skullmaster4, DakeDekaane, - Magic Bomb -
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
- Magic Bomb - [2] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer
DakeDekaane [1] - Drezi
GuyInFreezer [1] - Sakura
metal sonic1 [1] - Ace Timing
Skullmaster4 [1] - Navizel
Ace Timing [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
pieguyn [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -
Frostings [0] -
Not Voting [6] - -[Jess]-, metal sonic1, Frostings, Skullmaster4, DakeDekaane, - Magic Bomb -
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC. That is exactly 12 days from now on.
Deadline for confirmations is exactly 24 hours after this post, December 13th, 9:40PM UTC.
Also third parties in this game has no reason to hide their claim so via massclaiming we will know exactly which factions are in play.
Yet you were talking about potential 3+ kills a night...GuyInFreezer wrote:
Mafia are the only anti-town faction in this game that are very threatening because of the consecutive nightkills.
Third parties can't kill, goos can't kill, and aliens iirc can only make one nightkill. Any anti-mafia roles are very strong in this game.
Yeaaah no.
Dammit.
I really don't like claiming, but I might as well if you are all going to.
I am a 1-Shot day Vigilante.
I doubt I will survive until D2. That's why I will probably use my kill today.
If I get dayvigged, nobody trust the person who killed me. But thinking about it more, I doubt that if there is a mafia day vigilante that they would reveal themselves pretty much as mafia just to kill the other day Vigilante.
I really don't like claiming, but I might as well if you are all going to.
I am a 1-Shot day Vigilante.
I doubt I will survive until D2. That's why I will probably use my kill today.
If I get dayvigged, nobody trust the person who killed me. But thinking about it more, I doubt that if there is a mafia day vigilante that they would reveal themselves pretty much as mafia just to kill the other day Vigilante.
In that time we didn't know there was no Red Goo, so yeah.
1) Don't edit your postsSkullmaster4 wrote:
Dammit.
I really don't like claiming, but I might as well if you are all going to.
I am a 1-Shot day Vigilante.
I doubt I will survive until D2. That's why I will probably use my kill today.
If I get dayvigged, nobody trust the person who killed me. But thinking about it more, I doubt that if there is a mafia day vigilante that they would reveal themselves pretty much as mafia just to kill the other day Vigilante.
2) Please shoot GIF then.
Aliens can make a separate nightkills iirc.
Also apparently red goo can kill too.
Man this is getting worse.
Also apparently red goo can kill too.
Man this is getting worse.
I'm fine with dying btw
It confirms 4 factions to everyone, and massclaim will go through without resistance.
It confirms 4 factions to everyone, and massclaim will go through without resistance.
Although Aliens have limited NKs, 3 isn't a nice number.
Topic Starter
Not again. Please, Don't edit your post under any circumstances. This is a warning for everyone: next one to edit their posts will be modkilled.Skullmaster4 wrote:
Dammit.
I really don't like claiming, but I might as well if you are all going to.
I am a 1-Shot day Vigilante.
I doubt I will survive until D2. That's why I will probably use my kill today.
If I get dayvigged, nobody trust the person who killed me. But thinking about it more, I doubt that if there is a mafia day vigilante that they would reveal themselves pretty much as mafia just to kill the other day Vigilante.
MBomb
There is NO Red Goo. Only GREY. No other Goos either.GuyInFreezer wrote:
Aliens can make a separate nightkills iirc.
Also apparently red goo can kill too.
Man this is getting worse.
Yeah, I got caught on that one didn't I.Sakura wrote:
1) Don't edit your postsSkullmaster4 wrote:
Dammit.
I really don't like claiming, but I might as well if you are all going to.
I am a 1-Shot day Vigilante.
I doubt I will survive until D2. That's why I will probably use my kill today.
If I get dayvigged, nobody trust the person who killed me. But thinking about it more, I doubt that if there is a mafia day vigilante that they would reveal themselves pretty much as mafia just to kill the other day Vigilante.
2) Please shoot GIF then.
I was just editing out a mistyped "I". No game changing info, so don't worry, but it's a rule nevertheless. I apologies and I won't do it again.
Also, I am not going to shoot anyone yet, I'm going to wait a bit. Shooting a townie might end up losing the town the game.
RVS reads:
town
gif
pieguy
sm4
not town, same faction:
mb sakura
supicious:
Drezi ms1
Vote: MB
town
gif
pieguy
sm4
not town, same faction:
mb sakura
supicious:
Drezi ms1
Vote: MB
I don't understand Drezi voting me after our exchange.
GuyInFreezer wrote:
We will commence massclaiming.
Frostings wrote:
please no reroll I got my favourite role
Topic Starter
The Weierstrass approximation theorem states that every continuous function defined on a closed interval [a, b] can be uniformly approximated as closely as desired by a polynomial function. Because polynomials are among the simplest functions, and because computers can directly evaluate polynomials, this theorem has both practical and theoretical relevance, especially in polynomial interpolation.
The Stone–Weierstrass theorem can be used to prove the following two statements which go beyond Weierstrass's result.
If f is a continuous real-valued function defined on the set [a, b] × [c, d] and ε > 0, then there exists a polynomial function p in two variables such that | f (x, y) − p(x, y) | < ε for all x in [a, b] and y in [c, d].If X and Y are two compact Hausdorff spaces and f : X × Y → R is a continuous function, then for every ε > 0 there exist n > 0 and continuous functions f1, ..., fn on X and continuous functions g1, ..., gn on Y such that || f − ∑ fi gi || < ε.The theorem has many other applications to analysis, including..."
...
Yeah I need something else to do in the meanwhile.
Votecount 1.2
- Magic Bomb - [3] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Frostings
DakeDekaane [1] - Drezi
GuyInFreezer [1] - Sakura
metal sonic1 [1] - Ace Timing
Skullmaster4 [1] - Navizel
Ace Timing [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
pieguyn [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -
Frostings [0] -
Not Voting [5] - -[Jess]-, metal sonic1, Skullmaster4, DakeDekaane, - Magic Bomb -
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
- Magic Bomb - [3] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Frostings
DakeDekaane [1] - Drezi
GuyInFreezer [1] - Sakura
metal sonic1 [1] - Ace Timing
Skullmaster4 [1] - Navizel
Ace Timing [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
pieguyn [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -
Frostings [0] -
Not Voting [5] - -[Jess]-, metal sonic1, Skullmaster4, DakeDekaane, - Magic Bomb -
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
Deadline for confirmations is December 13th, 9:40PM UTC.
We have no way to tell what you were actually changing just dont do it, if you have a typo you can make a NEW post saying that "this was supposed to be read X instead of Y because typo". Also dont try to do things without getting caught things like this will get you banned from most games because they dont want a player trying to evade the rules without "getting caught"Skullmaster4 wrote:
Yeah, I got caught on that one didn't I.
I was just editing out a mistyped "I". No game changing info, so don't worry, but it's a rule nevertheless. I apologies and I won't do it again.
Also, I am not going to shoot anyone yet, I'm going to wait a bit. Shooting a townie might end up losing the town the game.
On-Topic:
Vote: pieguyn
Why is sonic suspicious? He hasn't even posted, yet you're pairing him with someoen that has actually posted (and did nothing of note)Frostings wrote:
RVS reads:
town
gif
pieguy
sm4
not town, same faction:
mb sakura
supicious:
Drezi ms1
Vote: MB
Yeah, this is fair. On the other main forum site I'm on edits don't get shown if it's edited within about 30 seconds or so, I messed up in forgeting that this site works differently.Sakura wrote:
We have no way to tell what you were actually changing just dont do it, if you have a typo you can make a NEW post saying that "this was supposed to be read X instead of Y because typo". Also dont try to do things without getting caught things like this will get you banned from most games because they dont want a player trying to evade the rules without "getting caught"Skullmaster4 wrote:
Yeah, I got caught on that one didn't I.
I was just editing out a mistyped "I". No game changing info, so don't worry, but it's a rule nevertheless. I apologies and I won't do it again.
Also, I am not going to shoot anyone yet, I'm going to wait a bit. Shooting a townie might end up losing the town the game.
On-Topic:
Vote: pieguyn
I just posted it, saw the mistake and wanted to fix it since it's kind of just a reflex for me now. xD
Now can we move on from this topic? If we talk about me messing up in this game each time I mess up, we will be off topic during the whole day phase.
I'm moving on from that topic, I already did.
Why are you focusing on it.
Why are you focusing on it.
Sakura
Do you really think pie would ditch town to get scumrole?
Do you really think pie would ditch town to get scumrole?
Possibly!
Granted, you're probably right about that.
Vote: Frostings
Vote: Frostings
I don't think frostings' scum either, with him excited and stuff
I would like him to claim however
I would like him to claim however
please, everyone knows what my favourite role isGuyInFreezer wrote:
I don't think frostings' scum either, with him excited and stuff
I would like him to claim however
I don't because I'm oblivious and ignorant.
Why do you think him being excited makes him town?GuyInFreezer wrote:
I don't think frostings' scum either, with him excited and stuff
I would like him to claim however
Also just saw the "one of the faction is a grey goo".
Splended.
Splended.
It doesn't make him 100% but it certainly leads to town for me.Sakura wrote:
Why do you think him being excited makes him town?GuyInFreezer wrote:
I don't think frostings' scum either, with him excited and stuff
I would like him to claim however
Also please expedite the claiming so we can actually start playing mafia
Thanks.
Thanks.
Will you believe me if I tell you my favorite role is VT? 
...so you ditched one of the most powerful role for a VT.
Anyway Navizel is like 99.99% confirmed town to me.
Well, Excellent Sense of Smell is a town role soo
Forgot where Frostings said it but I believe he mentioned it before that VT is his favorite role. Though discarding Clairvoyant for a VT is just lame.
/conf
I am late to come this party,sorry ;w;
Reading now
I am late to come this party,sorry ;w;
Reading now
Also,I am a universal backup.
noFrostings wrote:
Will you believe me if I tell you my favorite role is VT?
not at all
Do you still think he's town.GuyInFreezer wrote:
...so you ditched one of the most powerful role for a VT.
<3
checking in
checking in
vote:pieguyn
why did you dump "mason compulsive bodyguard"??
scummy
why did you dump "mason compulsive bodyguard"??
scummy
sakura looks rlly town by the by
hi!
<3
hi!
<3
trueeeee but we never knowGuyInFreezer wrote:
Sakura
Do you really think pie would ditch town to get scumrole?
i am thinking the same thing ugh
Topic Starter
The first theorem states that the surface area A of a surface of revolution generated by rotating a plane curve C about an axis external to C and on the same plane is equal to the product of the arc length s of C and the distance d traveled by its geometric centroid. For example, the surface area of the torus with minor radius r and major radius R is
A = (2 pi r)(2 pi R) = 4 pi^2 R r.
The second theorem states that the volume V of a solid of revolution generated by rotating a plane figure F about an external axis is equal to the product of the area A of F and the distance d traveled by its geometric centroid. For example, the volume of the torus with minor radius r and major radius R is
V = (pi r^2)(2 pi R) = 2 pi^2 R r^2"
Hey, this isn't that hard! Oh right, those guys were still discussing about who is the culprit...
Votecount 1.3
- Magic Bomb - [3] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Frostings
DakeDekaane [1] - Drezi
pieguyn [1] - metal sonic1
Frostings [1] - Sakura
metal sonic1 [1] - Ace Timing
Skullmaster4 [1] - Navizel
Ace Timing [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -
Not Voting [4] - -[Jess]-, Skullmaster4, DakeDekaane, - Magic Bomb -
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
- Magic Bomb - [3] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Frostings
DakeDekaane [1] - Drezi
pieguyn [1] - metal sonic1
Frostings [1] - Sakura
metal sonic1 [1] - Ace Timing
Skullmaster4 [1] - Navizel
Ace Timing [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -
Not Voting [4] - -[Jess]-, Skullmaster4, DakeDekaane, - Magic Bomb -
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
Everyone has confirmed! Hooray!
ok i guesss that is compelling
meta ftw
unvote pieguyn
vote frostings
meta ftw
unvote pieguyn
vote frostings
btw i am a mason
pieguy pls slap yoursself 500 times
pieguy pls slap yoursself 500 times
as luck would have it i am masons with NOBODY because grand pie decided to trash mason COMPULSIVE BODYGUARD
wasnt that fun
wasnt that fun
the fun thing is that masons are only guaranteed to be non mafia, so all you'd be would be neighbors that know they arent mafia. But yeah i remember others making this mistake on the greatest idea mafia I hosted.
Drubkposting but wahey
Undecided on frostings th
There is only town mason in this setip so ya
Undecided on frostings th
There is only town mason in this setip so ya
Aldo compulsive bodyguard is a shot role and deserves difching any time
GuyInFreezer
Sakura
-[Jess]-
pieguyn
Navizel
metal sonic1
Skull becomes confirmed town if he shooys mafia
Sakura
-[Jess]-
pieguyn
Navizel
metal sonic1
Skull becomes confirmed town if he shooys mafia
Also do not use your PR until Night 3 ot grey goo is dwad tgankd
wat whyGuyInFreezer wrote:
Aldo compulsive bodyguard is a shot role and deserves difching any time
he is a mason
so he can compulsively bodyguard his mason buddy (if any)
that is pretty straightforward ya?
what a donk pieguy
dumping mason
leaving my all alone
slap urself 500 times
dumping mason
leaving my all alone
slap urself 500 times
GuyInFreezer wrote:
GuyInFreezer
Sakura
-[Jess]-
pieguyn
Navizel
metal sonic1
Skull becomes confirmed town if he shooys mafia
are those your townreads or are those your town power roles
why jess?
How much hopes do you have about lynching not town until Day 3?GuyInFreezer wrote:
Also do not use your PR until Night 3 ot grey goo is dwad tgankd
ok I admit choosing VT wasn't the smartest idea, but I dunno, VT is so much fun
Also I looked up what Clairvoyant was and I thought it was kinda meh
Dunno what the big deal with it is
Also I looked up what Clairvoyant was and I thought it was kinda meh
Dunno what the big deal with it is
it just occurred to me that although pieguy would not choose mafia, he might choose 3rd party since his policy is "lol 3rd party = town so lololololol"
yes this is the same paranoia i had in persona 4
but seriously can you blame me
yes this is the same paranoia i had in persona 4
but seriously can you blame me
i actually feel pretty good about our chances of lynching not town for these few days
nobody asked me im just stating my opinion like the loudmouth i am
nobody asked me im just stating my opinion like the loudmouth i am
one-shot commuter.
not buying Frostings' VT for lulz. as for Skullmaster, he'll just have to shoot someone we'd lynch otherwise so w/e.
btw mason is not town only here either, there's a goo mason in the list, metalsonic is prob town either way.
Vote: Frostings
not buying Frostings' VT for lulz. as for Skullmaster, he'll just have to shoot someone we'd lynch otherwise so w/e.
btw mason is not town only here either, there's a goo mason in the list, metalsonic is prob town either way.
Vote: Frostings
Some people, including me just feel like its odd that you would choose VT over a role that can actually do something.Frostings wrote:
ok I admit choosing VT wasn't the smartest idea, but I dunno, VT is so much fun
Also I looked up what Clairvoyant was and I thought it was kinda meh
Dunno what the big deal with it is
Even if its not much, its better then being able to really do nothing.
I guess I cant judge your preferences though ¯\(o_o)/¯
MBomb
I hate when my internet dies whilst stuff is actually going on.
Frostings being VT? I'd believe it, but I still find it surprising he would discard a helpful role for it.
Also, that makes 3 VT claims... seems a bit off honestly.
I still think pieguy is scum.
metal sonic1 is town, that mason claim seemed way too legit to be faked (As in, I don't think he would put that much emphasis on the fact someone else discarded a mason card).
GIF is town, gut feeling.
That's all for my reads for now.
Frostings being VT? I'd believe it, but I still find it surprising he would discard a helpful role for it.
Also, that makes 3 VT claims... seems a bit off honestly.
I still think pieguy is scum.
metal sonic1 is town, that mason claim seemed way too legit to be faked (As in, I don't think he would put that much emphasis on the fact someone else discarded a mason card).
GIF is town, gut feeling.
That's all for my reads for now.
So we just need ace to claim.
He claimed uni backup. It's a provable role.metal sonic1 wrote:
GuyInFreezer wrote:
GuyInFreezer
Sakura
-[Jess]-
pieguyn
Navizel
metal sonic1
Skull becomes confirmed town if he shooys mafia
are those your townreads or are those your town power roles
why jess?
Very high.DakeDekaane wrote:
How much hopes do you have about lynching not town until Day 3?GuyInFreezer wrote:
Also do not use your PR until Night 3 ot grey goo is dwad tgankd
We also have a claimed dayvig to help us too.
According to Navizel there are only grey goo in this game.Drezi wrote:
one-shot commuter.
not buying Frostings' VT for lulz. as for Skullmaster, he'll just have to shoot someone we'd lynch otherwise so w/e.
btw mason is not town only here either, there's a goo mason in the list, metalsonic is prob town either way.
Vote: Frostings
Topic Starter
Huh... Calculus is really interesting.
What's going on next door? A massclaim? Of what?
Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
What's going on next door? A massclaim? Of what?
Votecount 1.4
- Magic Bomb - [3] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Frostings
Frostings [3] - Sakura, Drezi, metal sonic1
pieguyn [1] - -Magic Bomb -
metal sonic1 [1] - Ace Timing
Skullmaster4 [1] - Navizel
DakeDekaane [0] -
Ace Timing [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - -[Jess]-, Skullmaster4, DakeDekaane
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
- Magic Bomb - [3] - pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Frostings
Frostings [3] - Sakura, Drezi, metal sonic1
pieguyn [1] - -Magic Bomb -
metal sonic1 [1] - Ace Timing
Skullmaster4 [1] - Navizel
DakeDekaane [0] -
Ace Timing [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -
Navizel [0] -
Drezi [0] -
No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - -[Jess]-, Skullmaster4, DakeDekaane
With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
Deadline for D1 is on December 24th, 9:40PM UTC.
Did you forget frosty or did you agree with me.GuyInFreezer wrote:
GuyInFreezer
Sakura
-[Jess]-
pieguyn
Navizel
metal sonic1
Skull becomes confirmed town if he shooys mafia
And if the later then why dont you switch over to frosty and make something happen.
Btw i agree sonic's town.