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2015-11-26 16:02 [Taiga]: hard as ar7.5 is intended or let me check something
2015-11-26 16:03 Exa: yeah
2015-11-26 16:03 Exa: It fits with the BPM and the song imo
2015-11-26 16:06 [Taiga]: ar8 od7 looks way better here, let me explain it
2015-11-26 16:07 [Taiga]: 02:06:532 (1,1,2,3) - this part can be problematic for someone with ~600-700pp for read and will most likely require him to replay this map often with ar7.5
2015-11-26 16:07 [Taiga]: ar8 od7 setting fix this problem, i had this with first testplay
2015-11-26 16:07 [Taiga]: od6 could be fine too
2015-11-26 16:07 Exa: hm you are right
2015-11-26 16:07 [Taiga]: but actualy od7 open gates for more rewardable scores
2015-11-26 16:08 Exa: Gonna do OD 6.5 though
2015-11-26 16:08 [Taiga]: for all - nomod and dt/hr
2015-11-26 16:08 Exa: Yeah
2015-11-26 16:08 [Taiga]: od6.5 is fine
2015-11-26 16:09 [Taiga]: k, will do checkout of timing sections
2015-11-26 16:11 [Taiga]: looks fine, i dont see any doubled / unrankable (un)inherited points, song plays well and i feel its properly timed
2015-11-26 16:15 [Taiga]: 00:55:817 (3,4,1,2) - doesnt play well, its a bit confusing at this difficulty, might be a small playability problem while using DT for example, what i could propose here is small change
2015-11-26 16:16 [Taiga]: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4024151
2015-11-26 16:16 [Taiga]: creating them by copy 00:54:746 (5,6) , CTRL+G to swap numbers and move into right position
2015-11-26 16:17 [Taiga]: imo it fits song pitch going from up->down->up and removes completly problematic part, decision is up to you
2015-11-26 16:17 Exa: still on hard?
2015-11-26 16:17 [Taiga]: its just free proposition from my side
2015-11-26 16:17 [Taiga]: yes
2015-11-26 16:19 Exa: hm
2015-11-26 16:19 Exa: Nah I will keep that
2015-11-26 16:19 Exa: I feel like this is somewhat of a special pattern
2015-11-26 16:20 Exa: It does not follow the general structure of the map
2015-11-26 16:20 Exa: But it fits because it's ok a tense part at the end of the kiai
2015-11-26 16:20 Exa: Besides the flow is fairly simple, being just a line
2015-11-26 16:20 [Taiga]: ok, its fine
2015-11-26 16:21 [Taiga]: well, for hard its all ok for me, it plays... interesting and its not boring at least, nice job sir
2015-11-26 16:21 Exa: :3
2015-11-26 16:31 [Taiga]: about insane - do you make bursts circle by circle or you use "turn slider into stream"?
2015-11-26 16:31 Exa: both really
2015-11-26 16:31 Exa: It depends on whether or not the shape of the stream is easy to make with a slider
2015-11-26 16:32 [Taiga]: nazi could say - 02:25:817 (1,2,3,4,5) - looks bad![smile :)](https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/images/smilies/50.gif)
2015-11-26 16:33 [Taiga]: but huh, i dont know if its intended to be shaped this way or not, thats why i am asking
2015-11-26 16:34 Exa: Yeah it's because of the stack at the end
2015-11-26 16:34 Exa: this is made with a slider
2015-11-26 16:34 Exa: if I recall well
2015-11-26 16:35 Exa: Did it a bit better
2015-11-26 16:35 [Taiga]: 02:29:389 (1) - up to 02:34:567 (7) - looks and more likely plays boring, too long, too linear, too predictable, using distance snapping in insane diff is not obligatory and sometimes adding some creative shape to this kind of moves plays way better
2015-11-26 16:35 [Taiga]: this one looks like copy-pasta from old maps, doesnt fit imo rest of map
2015-11-26 16:37 Exa: I intended it to be predictible because of the calmness of the song
2015-11-26 16:37 Exa: This is kinda subjective but I will need more opinions if I am to change it
2015-11-26 16:37 [Taiga]: yes, ofcourse, i agree with you
2015-11-26 16:38 [Taiga]: just pointing out this moment
2015-11-26 16:38 Exa: yup yup
2015-11-26 16:39 [Taiga]: 02:35:460 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - here for example you have same music pattern like in 02:30:282 (7) -
2015-11-26 16:39 [Taiga]: its not consistent
2015-11-26 16:40 Exa: The tick sound is much more on 02:35:460 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - these
2015-11-26 16:40 Exa: than the triple
2015-11-26 16:40 Exa: I don't see the incosistency :s
2015-11-26 16:42 [Taiga]: ok, if you are following this beat, i recommend adding 02:32:871 (10) - and turning this into small stream
2015-11-26 16:42 [Taiga]: checking without hitsounds @ 50% speed to be sure
2015-11-26 16:43 Exa: o damn nice catch
2015-11-26 16:45 [Taiga]: 00:18:407 (11,12,13) - same thing, add circles
2015-11-26 16:45 Exa: http://puu.sh/lzuxF/73199f8531.jpg
2015-11-26 16:45 Exa: did this
2015-11-26 16:46 [Taiga]: cool, looks nice
2015-11-26 16:46 Exa: nah, I am not following this sound there
2015-11-26 16:46 Exa: there are for more prominent sounds to follow at this point
2015-11-26 16:46 [Taiga]: ok, that explain this pattern, i understand it now
2015-11-26 16:48 [Taiga]: 00:38:853 (4,5,6,7,8) - how about https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4024287 ?
2015-11-26 16:48 [Taiga]: not confusing at all, better express beats linked to this circles
2015-11-26 16:49 Exa: yeah I tried that when I first made this
2015-11-26 16:49 Exa: But I hated the linear flow
2015-11-26 16:49 Exa: wait
2015-11-26 16:50 Exa: 00:39:746 (9) - Again i am gonna leave this be because it created gradually decreasing spacing (4,5,6) and also makes a huge jump to 8 which does not have a bass or drum beat
2015-11-26 16:50 Exa: to 9*
2015-11-26 16:51 [Taiga]: ok, up to you ^^
2015-11-26 16:54 [Taiga]: 00:56:353 (2,3) - will just point this thing, need to think about this and listen a bit but i might have (maybe wrong) feeling that something is wrong with ending of slider 2 and start of 3
2015-11-26 16:54 [Taiga]: like it missing something / missplaced / wrongly placed
2015-11-26 16:54 [Taiga]: need to test this to be sure
2015-11-26 16:54 Exa: yup
2015-11-26 16:54 Exa: o, I gtg for like 1h
2015-11-26 16:54 Exa: I will be back though
2015-11-26 16:55 [Taiga]: ok, will save this convo for now
2015-11-26 16:55 [Taiga]: 00:56:353 (2,3) -
2015-11-26 16:55 [Taiga]: 00:56:353 (2,3) -
2015-11-26 16:55 [Taiga]: 00:56:353 (2,3) -
2015-11-26 16:55 [Taiga]: just so i know
2015-11-26 16:55 [Taiga]: where we done
2015-11-26 16:56 Exa: yup yup
2015-11-26 16:56 Exa:![Grin :D](https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/images/smilies/242.gif)
2015-11-26 17:36 Exa: b
2015-11-26 17:36 Exa: ack
2015-11-26 17:36 [Taiga]: welcome back
2015-11-26 17:37 Exa:![Grin :D](https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/images/smilies/242.gif)
2015-11-26 17:39 [Taiga]: ok, about this sliders, it looks consistent with other part as i see so leave it be, maybe someone else will have idea
2015-11-26 17:39 [Taiga]: what i found now is
2015-11-26 17:39 [Taiga]: 01:24:478 (5) -
2015-11-26 17:39 [Taiga]: move to linked position
2015-11-26 17:39 [Taiga]: 01:24:389 (4) -
2015-11-26 17:39 [Taiga]: circle 5
2015-11-26 17:39 [Taiga]: you placed it imo in empty space
2015-11-26 17:40 Exa: linked position?
2015-11-26 17:40 [Taiga]: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4024587
2015-11-26 17:40 [Taiga]: 01:24:389 (4) -
2015-11-26 17:40 [Taiga]: move 5
2015-11-26 17:40 [Taiga]: fits vocal way better
2015-11-26 17:41 Exa: waiton the timeline?
2015-11-26 17:41 Exa: Do you want me to change it rhythmicaly or it's position?>
2015-11-26 17:42 [Taiga]: i propose to change like in linked screen
2015-11-26 17:42 [Taiga]: this "shutta" word isnt spreaded into 1/4 but 1/8 timeline
2015-11-26 17:42 [Taiga]: so if you move 01:24:567 (5) -
2015-11-26 17:43 Exa: I see what you mean
2015-11-26 17:43 [Taiga]: into 24:478 and create double from 4 and 5, it imo fits better
2015-11-26 17:43 Exa: I am not basic this pattern on the vocals
2015-11-26 17:43 Exa: rather, I am basicing on 01:24:567 - this sound
2015-11-26 17:45 [Taiga]: ah, ok
2015-11-26 17:45 [Taiga]: another thing
2015-11-26 17:45 [Taiga]: 02:06:219 (1) - does this sound indicate a fast 1/8 stream or 1 repeatable slider?![smile :)](https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/images/smilies/50.gif)
2015-11-26 17:45 [Taiga]: stream fits this place way more
2015-11-26 17:46 [Taiga]: fingers wants to move to this one
2015-11-26 17:46 Exa: The sound is 1/8 tho D:
2015-11-26 17:46 [Taiga]: yes
2015-11-26 17:46 Exa: 1/16
2015-11-26 17:46 Exa: in this case
2015-11-26 17:46 Exa: It would be wrong to make it 1/8
2015-11-26 17:46 Exa: wait
2015-11-26 17:46 [Taiga]: 1/8
2015-11-26 17:47 Exa: Yeah
2015-11-26 17:47 Exa: 1/8
2015-11-26 17:47 [Taiga]: each tick is ok
2015-11-26 17:47 Exa: Egh
2015-11-26 17:47 Exa: That would be a huge lag spike
2015-11-26 17:47 Exa: log
2015-11-26 17:47 Exa: um
2015-11-26 17:47 Exa: diff
2015-11-26 17:47 Exa: diff spike
2015-11-26 17:47 Exa: kill me
2015-11-26 17:47 [Taiga]: xD
2015-11-26 17:47 [Taiga]: calm down, its all ok, i am here to asist you
2015-11-26 17:47 [Taiga]: ^^
2015-11-26 17:48 Exa: aw :3
2015-11-26 17:48 [Taiga]: threat me like a friend, i am sitting near you and giving you ideas how i see this, you are the mapper and you make a creatin ^^
2015-11-26 17:48 [Taiga]: in this part my fingers badly wants to click and this one slider stops them
2015-11-26 17:48 [Taiga]: awwww :/
2015-11-26 17:48 Exa: I always do that :3
2015-11-26 17:48 Exa: Hm
2015-11-26 17:49 Exa: There are not 1/8 streams even on noz's diff
2015-11-26 17:49 Exa: So I couldn't add them here because even the spread would be incosistent
2015-11-26 17:49 Exa: I get what you mean and I agree with it
2015-11-26 17:49 Exa: Problem is that it would be too hard
2015-11-26 17:50 Exa: for insane lavel
2015-11-26 17:50 Exa: level*
2015-11-26 17:51 [Taiga]: hmmm, depends but i take your POV
2015-11-26 17:51 Exa: I am glad
2015-11-26 17:52 Exa: The way you put it, I really wanna add a stream as well
2015-11-26 17:52 Exa: But being too hard holds me bac
2015-11-26 17:52 Exa: back
2015-11-26 17:53 [Taiga]: i think thats all, unfortunely i cannot mod higest diffs becouse i am unable to properly testplay them
2015-11-26 17:53 Exa: yeah I undestand
2015-11-26 17:53 [Taiga]: about easy and normal, i didnt found anything worth mentioning what is questionable or unrankable
2015-11-26 17:53 Exa: Thanks a whole bunch for your help
2015-11-26 16:03 Exa: yeah
2015-11-26 16:03 Exa: It fits with the BPM and the song imo
2015-11-26 16:06 [Taiga]: ar8 od7 looks way better here, let me explain it
2015-11-26 16:07 [Taiga]: 02:06:532 (1,1,2,3) - this part can be problematic for someone with ~600-700pp for read and will most likely require him to replay this map often with ar7.5
2015-11-26 16:07 [Taiga]: ar8 od7 setting fix this problem, i had this with first testplay
2015-11-26 16:07 [Taiga]: od6 could be fine too
2015-11-26 16:07 Exa: hm you are right
2015-11-26 16:07 [Taiga]: but actualy od7 open gates for more rewardable scores
2015-11-26 16:08 Exa: Gonna do OD 6.5 though
2015-11-26 16:08 [Taiga]: for all - nomod and dt/hr
2015-11-26 16:08 Exa: Yeah
2015-11-26 16:08 [Taiga]: od6.5 is fine
2015-11-26 16:09 [Taiga]: k, will do checkout of timing sections
2015-11-26 16:11 [Taiga]: looks fine, i dont see any doubled / unrankable (un)inherited points, song plays well and i feel its properly timed
2015-11-26 16:15 [Taiga]: 00:55:817 (3,4,1,2) - doesnt play well, its a bit confusing at this difficulty, might be a small playability problem while using DT for example, what i could propose here is small change
2015-11-26 16:16 [Taiga]: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4024151
2015-11-26 16:16 [Taiga]: creating them by copy 00:54:746 (5,6) , CTRL+G to swap numbers and move into right position
2015-11-26 16:17 [Taiga]: imo it fits song pitch going from up->down->up and removes completly problematic part, decision is up to you
2015-11-26 16:17 Exa: still on hard?
2015-11-26 16:17 [Taiga]: its just free proposition from my side
2015-11-26 16:17 [Taiga]: yes
2015-11-26 16:19 Exa: hm
2015-11-26 16:19 Exa: Nah I will keep that
2015-11-26 16:19 Exa: I feel like this is somewhat of a special pattern
2015-11-26 16:20 Exa: It does not follow the general structure of the map
2015-11-26 16:20 Exa: But it fits because it's ok a tense part at the end of the kiai
2015-11-26 16:20 Exa: Besides the flow is fairly simple, being just a line
2015-11-26 16:20 [Taiga]: ok, its fine
2015-11-26 16:21 [Taiga]: well, for hard its all ok for me, it plays... interesting and its not boring at least, nice job sir
2015-11-26 16:21 Exa: :3
2015-11-26 16:31 [Taiga]: about insane - do you make bursts circle by circle or you use "turn slider into stream"?
2015-11-26 16:31 Exa: both really
2015-11-26 16:31 Exa: It depends on whether or not the shape of the stream is easy to make with a slider
2015-11-26 16:32 [Taiga]: nazi could say - 02:25:817 (1,2,3,4,5) - looks bad
![smile :)](https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/images/smilies/50.gif)
2015-11-26 16:33 [Taiga]: but huh, i dont know if its intended to be shaped this way or not, thats why i am asking
2015-11-26 16:34 Exa: Yeah it's because of the stack at the end
2015-11-26 16:34 Exa: this is made with a slider
2015-11-26 16:34 Exa: if I recall well
2015-11-26 16:35 Exa: Did it a bit better
2015-11-26 16:35 [Taiga]: 02:29:389 (1) - up to 02:34:567 (7) - looks and more likely plays boring, too long, too linear, too predictable, using distance snapping in insane diff is not obligatory and sometimes adding some creative shape to this kind of moves plays way better
2015-11-26 16:35 [Taiga]: this one looks like copy-pasta from old maps, doesnt fit imo rest of map
2015-11-26 16:37 Exa: I intended it to be predictible because of the calmness of the song
2015-11-26 16:37 Exa: This is kinda subjective but I will need more opinions if I am to change it
2015-11-26 16:37 [Taiga]: yes, ofcourse, i agree with you
2015-11-26 16:38 [Taiga]: just pointing out this moment
2015-11-26 16:38 Exa: yup yup
2015-11-26 16:39 [Taiga]: 02:35:460 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - here for example you have same music pattern like in 02:30:282 (7) -
2015-11-26 16:39 [Taiga]: its not consistent
2015-11-26 16:40 Exa: The tick sound is much more on 02:35:460 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - these
2015-11-26 16:40 Exa: than the triple
2015-11-26 16:40 Exa: I don't see the incosistency :s
2015-11-26 16:42 [Taiga]: ok, if you are following this beat, i recommend adding 02:32:871 (10) - and turning this into small stream
2015-11-26 16:42 [Taiga]: checking without hitsounds @ 50% speed to be sure
2015-11-26 16:43 Exa: o damn nice catch
2015-11-26 16:45 [Taiga]: 00:18:407 (11,12,13) - same thing, add circles
2015-11-26 16:45 Exa: http://puu.sh/lzuxF/73199f8531.jpg
2015-11-26 16:45 Exa: did this
2015-11-26 16:46 [Taiga]: cool, looks nice
2015-11-26 16:46 Exa: nah, I am not following this sound there
2015-11-26 16:46 Exa: there are for more prominent sounds to follow at this point
2015-11-26 16:46 [Taiga]: ok, that explain this pattern, i understand it now
2015-11-26 16:48 [Taiga]: 00:38:853 (4,5,6,7,8) - how about https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4024287 ?
2015-11-26 16:48 [Taiga]: not confusing at all, better express beats linked to this circles
2015-11-26 16:49 Exa: yeah I tried that when I first made this
2015-11-26 16:49 Exa: But I hated the linear flow
2015-11-26 16:49 Exa: wait
2015-11-26 16:50 Exa: 00:39:746 (9) - Again i am gonna leave this be because it created gradually decreasing spacing (4,5,6) and also makes a huge jump to 8 which does not have a bass or drum beat
2015-11-26 16:50 Exa: to 9*
2015-11-26 16:51 [Taiga]: ok, up to you ^^
2015-11-26 16:54 [Taiga]: 00:56:353 (2,3) - will just point this thing, need to think about this and listen a bit but i might have (maybe wrong) feeling that something is wrong with ending of slider 2 and start of 3
2015-11-26 16:54 [Taiga]: like it missing something / missplaced / wrongly placed
2015-11-26 16:54 [Taiga]: need to test this to be sure
2015-11-26 16:54 Exa: yup
2015-11-26 16:54 Exa: o, I gtg for like 1h
2015-11-26 16:54 Exa: I will be back though
2015-11-26 16:55 [Taiga]: ok, will save this convo for now
2015-11-26 16:55 [Taiga]: 00:56:353 (2,3) -
2015-11-26 16:55 [Taiga]: 00:56:353 (2,3) -
2015-11-26 16:55 [Taiga]: 00:56:353 (2,3) -
2015-11-26 16:55 [Taiga]: just so i know
2015-11-26 16:55 [Taiga]: where we done
2015-11-26 16:56 Exa: yup yup
2015-11-26 16:56 Exa:
![Grin :D](https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/images/smilies/242.gif)
2015-11-26 17:36 Exa: b
2015-11-26 17:36 Exa: ack
2015-11-26 17:36 [Taiga]: welcome back
2015-11-26 17:37 Exa:
![Grin :D](https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/images/smilies/242.gif)
2015-11-26 17:39 [Taiga]: ok, about this sliders, it looks consistent with other part as i see so leave it be, maybe someone else will have idea
2015-11-26 17:39 [Taiga]: what i found now is
2015-11-26 17:39 [Taiga]: 01:24:478 (5) -
2015-11-26 17:39 [Taiga]: move to linked position
2015-11-26 17:39 [Taiga]: 01:24:389 (4) -
2015-11-26 17:39 [Taiga]: circle 5
2015-11-26 17:39 [Taiga]: you placed it imo in empty space
2015-11-26 17:40 Exa: linked position?
2015-11-26 17:40 [Taiga]: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4024587
2015-11-26 17:40 [Taiga]: 01:24:389 (4) -
2015-11-26 17:40 [Taiga]: move 5
2015-11-26 17:40 [Taiga]: fits vocal way better
2015-11-26 17:41 Exa: waiton the timeline?
2015-11-26 17:41 Exa: Do you want me to change it rhythmicaly or it's position?>
2015-11-26 17:42 [Taiga]: i propose to change like in linked screen
2015-11-26 17:42 [Taiga]: this "shutta" word isnt spreaded into 1/4 but 1/8 timeline
2015-11-26 17:42 [Taiga]: so if you move 01:24:567 (5) -
2015-11-26 17:43 Exa: I see what you mean
2015-11-26 17:43 [Taiga]: into 24:478 and create double from 4 and 5, it imo fits better
2015-11-26 17:43 Exa: I am not basic this pattern on the vocals
2015-11-26 17:43 Exa: rather, I am basicing on 01:24:567 - this sound
2015-11-26 17:45 [Taiga]: ah, ok
2015-11-26 17:45 [Taiga]: another thing
2015-11-26 17:45 [Taiga]: 02:06:219 (1) - does this sound indicate a fast 1/8 stream or 1 repeatable slider?
![smile :)](https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/images/smilies/50.gif)
2015-11-26 17:45 [Taiga]: stream fits this place way more
2015-11-26 17:46 [Taiga]: fingers wants to move to this one
2015-11-26 17:46 Exa: The sound is 1/8 tho D:
2015-11-26 17:46 [Taiga]: yes
2015-11-26 17:46 Exa: 1/16
2015-11-26 17:46 Exa: in this case
2015-11-26 17:46 Exa: It would be wrong to make it 1/8
2015-11-26 17:46 Exa: wait
2015-11-26 17:46 [Taiga]: 1/8
2015-11-26 17:47 Exa: Yeah
2015-11-26 17:47 Exa: 1/8
2015-11-26 17:47 [Taiga]: each tick is ok
2015-11-26 17:47 Exa: Egh
2015-11-26 17:47 Exa: That would be a huge lag spike
2015-11-26 17:47 Exa: log
2015-11-26 17:47 Exa: um
2015-11-26 17:47 Exa: diff
2015-11-26 17:47 Exa: diff spike
2015-11-26 17:47 Exa: kill me
2015-11-26 17:47 [Taiga]: xD
2015-11-26 17:47 [Taiga]: calm down, its all ok, i am here to asist you
2015-11-26 17:47 [Taiga]: ^^
2015-11-26 17:48 Exa: aw :3
2015-11-26 17:48 [Taiga]: threat me like a friend, i am sitting near you and giving you ideas how i see this, you are the mapper and you make a creatin ^^
2015-11-26 17:48 [Taiga]: in this part my fingers badly wants to click and this one slider stops them
2015-11-26 17:48 [Taiga]: awwww :/
2015-11-26 17:48 Exa: I always do that :3
2015-11-26 17:48 Exa: Hm
2015-11-26 17:49 Exa: There are not 1/8 streams even on noz's diff
2015-11-26 17:49 Exa: So I couldn't add them here because even the spread would be incosistent
2015-11-26 17:49 Exa: I get what you mean and I agree with it
2015-11-26 17:49 Exa: Problem is that it would be too hard
2015-11-26 17:50 Exa: for insane lavel
2015-11-26 17:50 Exa: level*
2015-11-26 17:51 [Taiga]: hmmm, depends but i take your POV
2015-11-26 17:51 Exa: I am glad
2015-11-26 17:52 Exa: The way you put it, I really wanna add a stream as well
2015-11-26 17:52 Exa: But being too hard holds me bac
2015-11-26 17:52 Exa: back
2015-11-26 17:53 [Taiga]: i think thats all, unfortunely i cannot mod higest diffs becouse i am unable to properly testplay them
2015-11-26 17:53 Exa: yeah I undestand
2015-11-26 17:53 [Taiga]: about easy and normal, i didnt found anything worth mentioning what is questionable or unrankable
2015-11-26 17:53 Exa: Thanks a whole bunch for your help