just wanted to respond to a few choice comments:
Osu!mania has been out for what, a bit over 2 years now? 2 years is hardly any time for a community in a game like this to develop it's overall understanding of the subtlties of making charts for music games. And it's very apparent even in many of the 'experienced mappers' here.
True, but not having mods makes it very hard for a map to get BN attention. Not to mention how few mappers could actually make something that deserves to be ranked as is.
I'm referring to the many players who actually don't understand mapping particularly well. It's very common for new mappers to believe that they're making good maps when they're making something only barely rankable after various mods. It's common that whichever difficulty they focused on ends up being the best in their map.Tidek wrote:
Ok, serious nowHaving a full difficulty spread doesn't mean that every difficulty in that map is going to be good quality and fun to play.What do you mean here? If mapper is scared that easier difficulties wont be as good as his the hardest difficulty, then ask for GD? There is a lot of options.
(for me its more being a lazy ass, because I dont believe that if you can map good hard diff then you cant make anything easier same good)
Osu!mania has been out for what, a bit over 2 years now? 2 years is hardly any time for a community in a game like this to develop it's overall understanding of the subtlties of making charts for music games. And it's very apparent even in many of the 'experienced mappers' here.
Neither does the modding process for that matter.Modding process isnt necessary thing in a ranking process, for example t/382232 Its all depends of quality of map.[/quote]
True, but not having mods makes it very hard for a map to get BN attention. Not to mention how few mappers could actually make something that deserves to be ranked as is.
Much of my issues are with the ranking criteria or ranking process design, and are with decisions already made which I disagree with. I voiced my disagreements in threads while those issues were discussed and was denied, usually with little in the way of proper explanation. Since then I've taken to pointing out the issues publicly because there's no other real option for me. I can't make loctav or peppy change their mind by 'doing something' other than trying to point out where their decisions are causing problems.OnosakiHito wrote:
Saying that certain standards are wrong but doing nothing against it is redundant, Bobbias. Nevermind how obvious it might be for an experienced person. Coming from Taiko, I can actually understand yours and other people's feeling in this matter when certain standards in osu! interfer with the gamemode you like and might even disturb its evolvement. It's especially a problem for older people like us, who come from older communities with possible more refined standards in certain matters, which can sometimes even lead to heated discussions. But that doesn't mean that you can't treat these problems and request certain changes or find a middle way in some way. Especially for someone who is -as I heared- so well known in the mania community like you, Bobbias, who probably has a lot of experience as well, should it be possible to help this community and lead it into an approximately right direction.
So instead of taking it as it is, people should treat the problems. Taking action. Else, if this isn't possible, I would just refer to what Aqo said.