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Topic Starter
RandomJibberish
I am sure the song should use 1/3, you can clearly hear it in the bits of the song where there are the repeating slider runs in insane. Idk if the people who disagree with it are hearing it differently or are morally opposed to 1/3 timing or something.
XepherX3
it should indeed be 1/3th

u can hear it clearly in the first 30 seconds of the sing (if u listen right)

i can't find anything wrong with this map

star from me
CheeseWarlock
Everything here is definitely 1/3.
Topic Starter
RandomJibberish
That's that dispute solved then :P
yeahyeahyeahhh
Good sutff :) I like Tomohito Nishiura stuff ^^

Insane:
00:06:353 (1,2,3,4) - make this straight? just to stay consistent with the other patterns
00:31:546 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - too much change of direction in a spaced out stream like this is lameee
NoHitter
Before I forget; Add my name to the tags.
Zekira
Somehow every Professor Layton song makes me wanna go to sleep. Why is it that every one of these songs really lack volume >_>

Autostar since I'm lazing out on timing atm.

[NoHItter]
00:33:028 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - if possible make these sliders not touch each other.
Also feels like a Normal somewhat lol. Maybe it's probably because of that average OD or smth; just felt like Normal somehow even though it's not.

[Normal]
00:38:956 (1,2) - blind spot on the 2. Change pl0x.
00:46:736 (4,1) - these overlapping sliders don't look too well.
01:17:486 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - ...anti-spacing? (just a preferred suggestion though; it's because I felt the 1 was too near to the 3 in such a non-climactic part of the song)
01:29:342 (4) - if possible move this somewhere away from 2
01:53:053 (1,2) - preferably stack the heads. Do the same with the other ones like it after.

[Hard]
Lol at AIMod Nazi...
00:38:709 (12) - preferably if you can make the combo so that these things don't interrupt with the sliders of the next combo
01:10:077 (5) - I don't like how the slider is covering this.
01:27:860 (3) - make it so that it doesn't interrupt the sliders of the next combo
01:58:610 (2) - preferably end the map here (delete the spinner)

[Insane]
00:47:477 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I find this part really unintuitive. I could sightread stuff until this part >_>
NoHitter
Fuuko
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Leorda
Hello!

[General]
1) Tags?

[NoHItter's Easy]
01:01:185 (3) - Make symetric?
01:08:595 (4) - Make parallel or curve?


[Normal]
00:47:871 (1) - Unsnapped slider LOL
00:58:221 (2) - Move 2 grid up?
01:11:188 (2) - Move it to the right place, make sure the previous slider not overlap this object
01:16:005 (6) - ^


[Hard]
00:06:600 (2,5) - Move it to the right place, make sure the previous slider not overlap this object

The background was little scary for me, LOL
Nice map
STAR
Derekku
[General]
*The shadows on the top and bottom of section-fail.png are cut off and look sloppy.
*I think that sliderscorepoint.png would look better white rather than gray, but eh. =s
*Personally, I think that the sliderball hat should be rotated 90 degrees so that it slides on its sides rather than top-to-bottom, but that's just me. :S
*I don't think that fruit-plate.png needs to be included, but I'm not positive.
*Add "NoHItter" to the tags on ALL difficulties, please.

[NoHItter's Easy]
01:58:981 - Perhaps add a final note here in the center with a finish? ;3

[Normal]
00:17:468 (2,3,1) - I advise against overlapping notes and sliders like this, but I suppose it's fine.
00:38:956 (1,2) - ^ or hiding sliders like this, but again, it still looks okay.
00:46:736 (4,1) - ^ eh, I'll insist that you change this. You have a slightly confusing/overlapping slider overlapping another slider and it's just messy. =X
01:07:854 (2,3,4) - argh stop overlapping xp
01:13:041 (2,3,4) - ^
01:18:227 (3,1) - Move (1) farther away. You have the same spacing between the previous combo 1/2 as you do between the new combos 3/1, which is confusing.
01:19:709 (3,1) - ^
01:21:191 (3,1) - ^

[Hard]
00:03:390 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I suggest removing the claps from 2, 5, and 8. It kinda makes the pattern sound a bit stale and overclapped. This goes for future claps in this diff and in other diffs where I think that claps may be overused. :< Also, please stack the duplet beats (i.e., 2,3 / 5,6 / 8,9)
00:05:118 (8,9,1) - Please don't overlap sliders.
00:06:600 (2,3) - stack
00:07:341 (5,6) - ^
00:08:082 (8,9) - ^
00:15:245 (1) - hidden under the hitburst from previous sliders
00:07:835 (7,8,9) - please don't overlap sliders
00:23:025 (2) - Don't hide sliders under other hitobjects; especially ones with repeats.
00:24:507 (2,3) - ^
00:25:989 (2) - ^
00:33:028 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - I suggest making this pattern into four repeating sliders, so that the next section of single beats will be EXPECTED, rather than random and confusing.
00:40:808 (2) - hidden
01:53:300 (2,3) - perhaps stack these and the ones that follow =X

[Insane]
00:03:390 (1,2,3,4) - I'd use a closer distance spacing for these and all other streams in this map.
01:58:981 (1) - How come this spinner isn't the same length as the other two diffs? I'd keep the same, but it's not super important.
00:11:417 (5,6) - don't overlap
00:14:010 (5,6) - ^
00:29:323 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - kinda clustery and hard to read. (the long blue ones after this are tricky too)
00:33:769 (3) - kinda hidden
00:34:510 (1) - ^
00:48:095 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - completely unexpected. I'd make these into two repeating sliders so that the next set is expected
01:45:643 (1) - too far from previous
*bleh, so streamy. Please make the distance spacing closer together orz
NoHitter

Derekku Chan wrote:

*Add "NoHItter" to the tags on ALL difficulties, please.
I've been trying to tell you to do this...

Download: Tomohito Nishiura - The Great Don Paolo (RandomJibberish) [NoHItter's Easy].osu
Topic Starter
RandomJibberish
Apologies, I didn't know it was neccesary on all diffs.
Derekku
Skin stuff looks much better. :3

[Easy]
01:58:981, not 01:58:610 =X

[Normal]
Eh, the spacing in that one part that I bitched about is fine. The approach circles come in so slowly that one would need to be paying zero attention in order to miss them. :S

[Hard]
argh fine

[Insane]
*I'm a little bit more lenient on the triplet sliders in this diff, but still.. :
00:53:775 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - expected some hitsounds in this part (also after the break for quite a few phrases)
01:42:679 (1) - too far from previous

Besides those few comments, I think that this map is pretty solid. :I

EDIT: Changed some things in my Hard/Insane posts. Also, +10 to offset please :p
NoHitter

Derekku Chan wrote:

[Easy]
01:58:981, not 01:58:610 =X
:|

Download: Tomohito Nishiura - The Great Don Paolo (RandomJibberish) [NoHItter's Easy].osu
Kecco
I didn't find something had to be fixed...

Really beautiful crazy map... Gratz~
Star~
Teara
Pubbled.

IRC Mod, Mostly skin elements, and a small issue on easy.
Topic Starter
RandomJibberish
Thanks, Teara~

@NoHItter: I just moved a hidden note out of the way on your diff, I hope you don't mind~
Mukku
Hiai

Easy~
It is fine ;_;

Normal~
01:08:217 (3,4) - Spacing. I am not telling you to fix it, im pointing it out in case you want to fix it :o
01:13:402 (3,4) - ^
01:20:440 (1,2,3) - Maybe you should move the 2 under the 3, like in the combo before the previous combo.

Hard~
00:21:183 (1) - I love the sliderhazard that begins here. Though, some of the repeat arrows cannot be seen while playing but I don't think thats a big problem. Just pointing it out. Its lovely the way it is :3

Insane~
It is fine


Awesome skin, awesome song, awesome bg and most of all, awesome mapset D:
star'd
Topic Starter
RandomJibberish

Mukku wrote:

Hard~
00:21:183 (1) - I love the sliderhazard that begins here. Though, some of the repeat arrows cannot be seen while playing but I don't think thats a big problem. Just pointing it out. Its lovely the way it is :3
Yeah, I think the player would automatically assume that the pattern continues. It'd be a problem if it didn't XD
NoHitter
If your referring to: 00:41:930 (1,2,3,4)

At least make it look neat...

Changed into a square pattern.

Download: Tomohito Nishiura - The Great Don Paolo (RandomJibberish) [NoHItter's Easy].osu
Chompey
First off, I'll say that I absolutely love the skin and SB that you used. I am very appealed by songs that put in extra effort to offer an extremely well done presentation of visual design such as this. Making a solid beatmap such as this along with that is an even harder and more respectable task. There's really nothing wrong with any of the difficulties; I found all of them to be fair to me and not misleading in any way, though I do have a few things to point out (They're just optional opinions):

~Hard~ (I love that question mark design at the end btw).

01:28:611 (1) - This slider looks a bit offset in position. (It sounds a bit pointless to point out since it's barely noticeable, but all your beatmaps are very neatly spaced and correctly arranged, so I figured I'd point that out).

~Insane~

01:11:075 (1) - This circle almost threw me off since it was a sudden ambush in pace, but you kinda expect these kind of things in one's hardest difficulty so I'm not particularly picky about it.

Other then that, I love this map in all it's entirety, and I want to see it ranked asap.
NoHitter
Sorry for having you update again, but I really wanted to fix something that looked ugly...

Download: Tomohito Nishiura - The Great Don Paolo (RandomJibberish) [NoHItter's Easy].osu
Topic Starter
RandomJibberish
'Sfine~
Garven
Wow. This is awesome.

[Insane]
01:12:310 [5] Maybe move this beat half a grid to the left to make a straight line to the next combo?

'sall I got. Besides this shiny, kind of dull gray blue star, of course.
orioncomet
[NoHItter's Easy]
01:26:388 (1) - replace sound clap with finish? ;_;

[Hard]
00:52:303 (6) - spacing? so close

starr ~
Topic Starter
RandomJibberish

orioncomet wrote:

[Hard]
00:52:303 (6) - spacing? so close

starr ~
I don't think it's confusing, so I'll leave it unless others disagree.
Lanttu
Ahh this needs to get ranked now. ;_; Love the little sliders in insane~

I think it's perfect, have a star<3
aRiskOfRain
Excellent stuff.
NoHitter

orioncomet wrote:

[NoHItter's Easy]
01:26:388 (1) - replace sound clap with finish? ;_;
Clap sounds better for me :|
whymeman
[Normal]

There seems to be some glitch or a messed up code causing the map to not automatically end after the final note. Please look into it.

[Hard]

There seems to be some glitch or a messed up code causing the map to not automatically end after the final note. Please look into it.

Make sure the SB and map is in working order before having it checked again.
Topic Starter
RandomJibberish
I think I fixed it, but I'm not totally sure what I did to fix it. Anyway, it appears to work now.
whymeman
Don't know about that. Its still doing it for me after redownloading the map... even in Normal play mode. :|
Matma Rex
Will try to check it. It's partially my SB after all.

edit: I don't have this problem and I cant find anything that might be wrong with the .osb. You broke something, whyme D:
Topic Starter
RandomJibberish
I have no idea what's going on with this. I'm pretty sure it's an osu! bug as a few maps have been having problems since the last update and some people seem to be having this problem where others aren't.

I'll look into it further, I have a help and support topic posted about it so hopefully the issue will be adressed soon.
NoHitter
It works for me too.
whymeman
Hmm.... well, it seems that it was a problem with the osu! code. Had to be safe than sorry. Bubbled then.
Starrodkirby86
[NoHItter's Easy]:
01:41:207 (1,1,1,1) - These 1/2 sliders don't really fit the song...The whole song is, after all, 1/3.

[Hard]:
00:21:183 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - All right...I guess one can assume all these will be repeating at the same length, but a hidden repeat slider is a hidden repeat slider...s; Think you can rearrange it to some other spiffy pattern?
00:38:966 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Same here (On the first (2)), though...I think you can just make the first batch of sliders to the left and the second batch of sliders go to the right...You know, switch their directions up. xD
01:47:135 (1) - I love this pattern.

Do you think you can reduce spinner-osu.png into a 1x1 transparent .png? oxo

Have a picarat star. :3 This is a great Layton, and Insane is really fun.
NoHitter
Powerdrone
Insane:

00:49:587 (1,2,3,4) - This part is hard! :?

Lulz. I love insane, but I can't beat it yet teehee.

So umm... I couldn't find any issues with this map... :P

STAR~
abalee
Late... :(

Hard:
00:28:592 (3,4) - Spacing?

Edit: Fixed, should have a bubbled.
Gens
[General]
  1. Woops, it seems that the BPM is not the same on all difficulties. You must fix (and maybe +5 to the offset while you're at it? :U).
[Skin]
  1. Might I ask what is "default-comma.png, default-dot.png (and so on)" for? I thought the "default" font was only for hitcircle numbers, and I don't see how they are used on the map.
  2. You must add an approach circle, even if it's just the default.
[All Difficulties]
  1. On [Hard] I see you used soft at 00:21:183; why not on the other difficulties?
So yeah, shame that I need to pop this. Call me back when it's fixed.
Gens
Crap, forgot to tell you that you must add a spinner-approachcircle too.
And you need to resnap badly.

EDIT:
Larto
Insane's good

Hard:
00:52:308 (6,1) - Spacing? :U
01:28:616 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - clapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclap
01:31:950 (6) - That slider doesn't really sync anything. And if it does, it doesn't do it job too good.

Normal:
01:47:140 (1) - A little bit short for a Normal
01:50:104 (1) - ^. Also the ending of the spinner sounds stupid.

Easy:
AH MY EARS THE HITSOUNDS ARE SO LOUD

EDIT:
Gens
That offset =[

Try -8 (which would be 3,397)

Why didn't I check it before, you ask? Careless of me I guess. I had Frame Limiter off which causes my offsets to go all wrong :U
Larto agreed with me, by the way
NoHitter
I feel sad for this map :(

Can't you guys stop with the popping and put everything under one mod post.
CheeseWarlock
I realize my last post said 1/3 when it should've said 1/6. That would explain some of the problems here. Sorry about that. :<

[All difficulties]
01:58:996 (1) - The map ends at a nicer point without this spinner.

[Normal]
00:43:787 (5,6,1,2,3) - It's an awkward transition into awkward mapping. These sliders have no reason to start on the off-beat.

[Hard]
This map could definitely use more consistency.
00:22:670 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Why are the hitsounds different here and nowhere else?
00:33:043 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Interesting snapping, but it seems just so random.
00:41:935 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Love this bit. I wish it were repeated somewhere else.

[Insane]
There's a lot of odd usage of 1/3 where it should be 1/6. And the sequences of single-repeat 1/6 sliders get boring after a while.
00:47:492 (1) - Really awkward transition.
01:54:550 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This sequence is a mess.
NoHitter
What happened here :(
Shohei Ohtani
Well this turned out to be a major dissapointment.
Topic Starter
RandomJibberish
The map is a major dissapontment

It was starting to piss me off, like, how shit it was, so I wasn't motivated to actually get it ranked

Go play my good maps
NotShinta
Eh it's alright
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