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Setsuen

Renevant wrote:

Not really, your posts just grab the eye easier and its very easy to make an opinion from your posts

I haven't read anything interesting from anyone else, just looks like normal stuff you'd expect from Day 1
There is a jollywell good reason why people who have played with me(with the exception of slani) are NOT trying to interact with me.
and "grab the eye easier"= you're so going to pay for that once it reaches D3 and everyone start whining.
Renevant
You're just making assumptions over the very few posts that exist so far. If you swing a bat enough times, you're bound to hit the correct object at least once. I've never played with you, so I wouldn't know if you've just got some ridiculous ego or not. From what I see, it sounds like you just complain a lot and over-exaggerate the few posts that exist in order to benefit you.
Ace Timing

sLaiNi wrote:

{Ace, Setsuen, Jess} <- Pretty sure atleast one of them is scum.
looks like Setsuen and Jess are town.
Ace Timing

Renevant wrote:

You're just making assumptions over the very few posts that exist so far. If you swing a bat enough times, you're bound to hit the correct object at least once.
Actually, you could just be a sucky swinger and not hit any.
Setsuen

Renevant wrote:

You're just making assumptions over the very few posts that exist so far. If you swing a bat enough times, you're bound to hit the correct object at least once. I've never played with you, so I wouldn't know if you've just got some ridiculous ego or not. From what I see, it sounds like you just complain a lot and over-exaggerate the few posts that exist in order to benefit you.

Scum trying to discredit me right here.

you say that like you can guess what my playstyle is and yet you CAN'T guess that my playstyle literally ensure that I am almost conf town and that I don't die until near late game.

> From what you can see I exaggerate.

Setsuen wrote:

Were you hoping that I would slip even though when I do slip it's town slip due to my love of exagerration?
Stating what I have already said? Check. Is that something scum would do? Yes.
Setsuen
FYI if GIF doesn't post anything like he did in the last game that we were both in, I shall prod him until he gets replaced.
Hika

Setsuen wrote:

Plz you're just jealous of my pro ability to outsurvive people who try to policy me.
It doesn't matter if it's not a reaction test. Because anyone who targets me THAT heavily after D1 is probably mafia bc most sane town knows by now that arguing with me is pointless. Only mafia who is trying to pull off some crazy elaborate stunt would even bother focusing on me D1.
this is disgusting af, please lmfao

Unvote
Hika

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Hmm, yeah, it seems a bit weird. Maybe be better to focus on it another day though, and hope we have a rolecop or flavour cop to check that (although chances of him lying about the champion are low).
btw, if there's a cop role, don't fucking search miller lmfao
just don't do it, use it on someone else everyone wants to search for the night after lynch
miller would be a waste of it but it honestly depends on how the mod wanted to fuck with us this game.

sLaiNi wrote:

{Ace, Setsuen, Jess} <- Pretty sure atleast one of them is scum.
why
Hika
I've got one leaning town read, nothing else for now. I'd like to see more from SNB though. :p
Renevant

Setsuen wrote:

> From what you can see I exaggerate.

Setsuen wrote:

Were you hoping that I would slip even though when I do slip it's town slip due to my love of exagerration?
Stating what I have already said? Check. Is that something scum would do? Yes.
I actually didn't see that. If I did, it didn't make any sense to me when i read it.
Renevant

Setsuen wrote:

Scum trying to discredit me right here.

you say that like you can guess what my playstyle is and yet you CAN'T guess that my playstyle literally ensure that I am almost conf town and that I don't die until near late game.
There's not really any "discredit" though. Your post counts the same as everyone elses. Claiming that you act a certain way when you're town shows that you recognize your playstyle and can change your it to appear that you're town when you're actually scum.
Setsuen

Hika wrote:

this is disgusting af, please lmfao

Unvote
I just said the truth. Unfortunately the truth hurts.

Renevant wrote:

I actually didn't see that. If I did, it didn't make any sense to me when i read it.
> Arguing with me but not reading all my post

Lets ALL agree that this is scummy. Bc clearly town would either 1.Be crazy and read all of my post before arguing with me or 2. give up on reading them and ignore me and town read me until mafia realise they have to kill me bc I will be unlynchable bc I am fortunately not miller this game.

> Also even if you did it wouldn't make any sense. You're just showing proof that you're not really trying to think and interpret what others are saying at this point.

@Mod:Prod skullmaster4
Renevant
What i don't understand is this ego you got going here. I've never played with you before. If you start ranting nonsense, i don't see why i wouldn't express my discontent. If i misunderstand something or even miss it, then that allows for a follow-up clarification from the other person when he's defending himself. It really doesn't change anything though. Saying that you exaggerate beforehand doesn't negate the affects it has of my opinion of you.

Setsuen wrote:

> Also even if you did it wouldn't make any sense. You're just showing proof that you're not really trying to think and interpret what others are saying at this point.
Another assumption from one statement. If it doesn't make sense, then i'll look for a clarification or consider it nonsense (which half of your posts are)
Setsuen

Renevant wrote:

What i don't understand is this ego you got going here. I've never played with you before. If you start ranting nonsense, i don't see why i wouldn't express my discontent. If i misunderstand something or even miss it, then that allows for a follow-up clarification from the other person when he's defending himself. It really doesn't change anything though. Saying that you exaggerate beforehand doesn't negate the affects it has of my opinion of you.

Another assumption from one statement. If it doesn't make sense, then i'll look for a clarification or consider it nonsense (which half of your posts are)
I lynched scum off based off assumption before and it has worked GREATLY. Nyquil in ChaosInDummyville for her ONE sentence slip and CalignoBot and Navizel when they tried so hard to band together to lynch me off. So none of it is nonsense even if I say new player who are scums HAS tried to push suspicion to me D1 for like a LONG time and therefore it is safe to assume scums who are new will do it this game too.


It doesn't negate your opinion but there is LITERALLY NO NEED TO RESTATE what I have already said because it is LITERALLY irrelevant to scum hunting OR being bait for people to slip on. What you are basically doing is FILLER post which is useless and highly scummy.
Setsuen
and FYI it's justifiable to call people who misunderstand scummy bc scum CAN and WILL purposely misunderstand to drag out an argument for a very long time to exhaust town resources.

tldr:Arguing with me is not working if you're trying to scumpaint me.
Renevant

Renevant wrote:

If you swing a bat enough times, you're bound to hit the correct object at least once.
So one worked out of the hundreds you probably made in that game.

If i restate something, its for my own clarification. I don't have enough information to actually make an educated guess on who is scum. Its still day 1 for god's sake, all of our information is being based off of random accusations made earlier in the thread. We're the only two people who have actually discussed anything to an extent for anyone to even have a slight opinion on us about who is scum.
Setsuen

Renevant wrote:

If i restate something, its for my own clarification. I don't have enough information to actually make an educated guess on who is scum. Its still day 1 for god's sake, all of our information is being based off of random accusations made earlier in the thread. We're the only two people who have actually discussed anything to an extent for anyone to even have a slight opinion on us about who is scum.

Setsuen wrote:

It doesn't matter if it's not a reaction test. Because anyone who targets me THAT heavily after D1 is probably mafia bc most sane town knows by now that arguing with me is pointless. Only mafia who is trying to pull off some crazy elaborate stunt would even bother focusing on me D1.

Then maybe you should have FORCED some other people to talk more instead of me seeing that IT IS PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT I WILL SUSPECT PEOPLE WHO GO FOR ME D1? Also barely anyones needs someone to restate anything unless it's like a summary.
Renevant
Like i said, i've never played with you before. I don't know anything about your playstyle.
"me" "me" "me"
Thats all i see you're talking about here.

Setsuen wrote:

Only mafia who is trying to pull off some crazy elaborate stunt would even bother focusing on me D1.
How would i know that?
You're expecting everyone else to act a certain way towards you and if they don't act that way, they're automatically scum? what? I don't even know who you are.

Setsuen wrote:

Also barely anyones needs someone to restate anything unless it's like a summary.
That's a load of bull. If i'm writing an essay to show why something is rhetorical or not, ill restate the phrases to clarify what im referencing.
Topic Starter
Navizel
So far, everyone is just farming their lanes. Some few harasses here and there but no one really goes for the kill. Except for the jungler. Poor jungler have to back after some jungle camps. New jungle is pretty sad.

Vote Count 1.3

Setsuen (1) - GuyInFreezer
Renevant (1) - Static Noise Bird
sLaiNi (1) - MrVaL
MrVaL (1) - Ace Timing
Ace Timing (2) - Frostings, sLaiNi

Not Voting: -[Jess]-, Setsuen, - Magic Bomb -, Skullmaster4, Renevant, Hika

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
Deadline is on November 16 8:40PM GMT -5. This is approximately 5 days and 22 hours from now.

Skullmaster4 has been prodded!
GuyInFreezer
This game imploded. Will be back here tomorrow.

Today is my LotV day and I'm beating the campaigns in one sitting.
Setsuen

Renevant wrote:

You're expecting everyone else to act a certain way towards you and if they don't act that way, they're automatically scum? what? I don't even know who you are.

That's a load of bull. If i'm writing an essay to show why something is rhetorical or not, ill restate the phrases to clarify what im referencing.
People still don't restate the statement. It is still scum filler post for others. End of story.

Guess what scum pulled off the same bull in the first game I was in by targetting me HEAVILY D1. They LOST that game bc I literally outted the entire maf team D1. My D1 reads are THAT GOOD. Not to mention ANOTHER game where scum yet again tried to target me and disregard my argument. This is enough evidence to show that no matter what, if you're playing scum against me for the 1st time, you will either Target me or LURK A WHOLE LOT. It does not matter if you knew me or not because my playstyle WILL make mafia target me.
Setsuen
of course there's the Sakura way of trying to be my friend which is what she pulled off in Madoka but lets face it GIF is the only one who can pull that off here so it can totally be ignored.
Renevant
So make conclusions w/o referencing the source material from which you got the information? Damn man, if we did that, anybody could say they've got an alien living in their basement, no questions asked.

All i'm seeing is self-proclaimed achievements here. Which you like to restate over and over to try and justify your accusations.
Setsuen

Renevant wrote:

So make conclusions w/o referencing the source material from which you got the information? Damn man, if we did that, anybody could say they've got an alien living in their basement, no questions asked.

All i'm seeing is self-proclaimed achievements here. Which you like to restate over and over to try and justify your accusations.
and yet you can't come up with a good reason on how I literally live till end game for most of my game. Also FYI they're not that self proclaimed since it DID happen and you can't exactly say you're town when all you have been doing is trying desperately to look like you're hunting for scum by arguing with the ONE player that almost everyone will probably town read by the end of D1 EITHERWAY.
Renevant
You're just referencing games i wasn't apart of. Over and over again

Setsuen wrote:

ONE player that almost everyone will probably town read by the end of D1 EITHERWAY.
Says who?
How would i know that? You gonna reference another game again?

And the aggression is towards me, no? Saying that my actions are scum?
Isn't that exactly what you just said, but about yourself?

Setsuen wrote:

trying desperately to look like you're hunting for scum
I haven't declared you as scum since my initial post, yet that's all you've been doing.
Setsuen
I already stated that people who tries to argue with me or FOS me that badly are probably scum and you decide to argue with me instead of waiting for people who have played with me to respond.

and of course the irony is people who have been in game with me before would know all about them townreading me but you choose to continue arguing with me instead of asking for them to respond.

Renevant wrote:

I haven't declared you as scum since my initial post, yet that's all you've been doing.
You're either trying to fake scum hunt to look town or you're faking activity by arguing with me instead of waiting for players who have played with me to respond. Both choices are what scum would do. Take your pick.

tdlr anyone who played with me know that this is my playstyle but you REFUSE to wait for people to respond and instead try to continue arguing about my past games which NO SANE TOWN would do and I (or better yet EVERYONE) lynch town that aren't going to contribute anything to scum hunt.
Renevant
There it is. Another reference.
If you have such good recognition of your playstyle, is it not appropriate to say that you could just easily alter it to make it seem like you're town?

And here you are asking for more references about your playstyle, expecting others to contribute in order to justify any and all of your accusations? Anybody can change their playstyle from game to game. Why should I expect anything different from you?

Setsuen wrote:

You're either trying to fake scum hunt to look town or you're faking activity by arguing with me instead of waiting for players who have played with me to respond. Both choices are what scum would do. Take your pick.
Are you changing your accusation again? First i'm legit scum hunting, now im fake scum hunting.
Setsuen

Renevant wrote:

There it is. Another reference.
If you have such good recognition of your playstyle, is it not appropriate to say that you could just easily alter it to make it seem like you're town?

And here you are asking for more references about your playstyle, expecting others to contribute in order to justify any and all of your accusations? Anybody can change their playstyle from game to game. Why should I expect anything different from you?

Are you changing your accusation again? First i'm legit scum hunting, now im fake scum hunting.
Trying to look like you're scum hunting =/= you're legit scum hunting. Scummy much.
and why can't you wait and ask the other players to respond? Because you're scum? Why aren't you calling out the lurkers and asking them to speak? Because they're your scum buddies whom you're trying to fake activity to direct attention away from them?

FYI my points all make sense, you're just trying to blitz your way through this and you're NOT coming out of this looking good.
Renevant

Setsuen wrote:

Trying to look like you're scum hunting =/= you're legit scum hunting. Scummy much.
Heat of the moment misinterpretation of what you previously said.

Setsuen wrote:

and why can't you wait and ask the other players to respond? Because you're scum? Why aren't you calling out the lurkers and asking them to speak? Because they're your scum buddies whom you're trying to fake activity to direct attention away from them?
How are you any different? I could ask the same of you.
Setsuen

Renevant wrote:

How are you any different? I could ask the same of you.

Setsuen wrote:

@Mod:Prod skullmaster4

Setsuen wrote:

FYI if GIF doesn't post anything like he did in the last game that we were both in, I shall prod him until he gets replaced.

I am totally not going for the lurkers while arguing with you.
Renevant
You've already prodded him though. Before this was even brought up?
If i understand the rules correctly, he should've already gotten a message to come back? At this point, the discussion has escalated to an extent where anyone other than us should also be contributing.

I don't see how my consistent responses to your accusations are such that to consider stalling or faking when you're the one who keeps making these accusations to begin with. It's not like you're special in this situation.

Finally,I would like to continue, but it's bed time. I likely won't be on until after school tomorrow. So roughly 15 hours.
Setsuen
Okay it's time for someone to enlighten this newbie on how I am going to run this D1.
Frostings
No need, I'm quite enjoying this :)
Frostings
One thing I'd like to mention, which doesn't really relate to what's going on, is that RVS reads shouldn't be taken with a grain of salt

I feel like the earliest "first impression" reads are very informative and usually more correct than reads later on
It's because towns are likely to make more mistakes as the game progresses and scum start forming plans with their chat and whatnot
So I'd like everyone to post their general reads and opinions of others for later analysis
Setsuen

Frostings wrote:

One thing I'd like to mention, which doesn't really relate to what's going on, is that RVS reads shouldn't be taken with a grain of salt

I feel like the earliest "first impression" reads are very informative and usually more correct than reads later on
It's because towns are likely to make more mistakes as the game progresses and scum start forming plans with their chat and whatnot
So I'd like everyone to post their general reads and opinions of others for later analysis

ok.

Mr Val:Obv scum, avoiding me and lurking REALLL hard.
GIF:Doing same thing as last game not sure if super WIFOM bc he was town last game
-[Jess]-
@mod V/LA until Friday,because I have a connection error and need two days to fix it.
MBomb
Renevant, arguing with Setsuen is pointless, he won't change what he says. Whilst it's annoying, there's not really anything you can do to have a legitimate conversation with him. His logic is pretty bad, but no matter how many times you say that he'll just disregard it.
Birdy
I'm not going to pay any attention to Setsuen this entire game, just a heads up.

I don't know what the fuck can I post about since I'm absolutely not going to read through the Setsuen-Renevant fuckery. Because of that, my vote stays, for now.

Val seems like a newbie town to me. Not sure what "scummy" do some people see in him. Magic Bomb can't be read based on meta and how they play both factions similarly, but they seem townish so far. Not sure about the rest, but then again it's just D1 with 90% of Renevant and Setsuen so far.
Skullmaster4
Ok, better post something.
Honestly I just haven't had time to focus much on this game.
I have been watching the thread, I just haven't had time to tryhard to find the mafia.
I can maybe try to get some reads tonight. But I have school ATM.
I might RC soon, but @Mod what are the rules or restrictions of roleclaiming?
-[Jess]-

-[Jess]- wrote:

@mod V/LA until Friday,because I have a connection error and need two days to fix it.
nvm,it just fixed,no need to take this V/LA

@Skullmaster4 Rule is in page1

Also @Renevant please ignore Setsuen.Argue with him is always a bad thing,it can't help for scumhunting.

@Frostings here is my read:

sLaiNi: WTF are he doing.
everyone else null
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