the main reason why you put many 1/2 patterns on highest diff because is Greget >.<
#sorry i;m just passing by
#sorry i;m just passing by
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updated!
Good luck Fort!
kebetulan kah? mungkin tidak
anyway good luck on qualification!
Qat see a wild Qat. dem!1!! Wild Cat Salty
Qat and Wild Cat
feel free to reply this, bro
a random essay post
Well since mapping an "Extra" difficulty has less to do with distance snappings, I guess it basically starts from a "random". Making those randoms logical is the aim for obtaining quality in an extra mapping in my opinion.
Regarding 1/2 spams especially in kiais, it follows the strong beat of the song and is having a wide flow all over the screen. Nice approach I'd say. The point you should think about is "Were 1/2 the best rhythm to suit this music?". 1/2 spams usually fits nice enough for all songs as long as those songs contain a continuous 1/2 beat. So instead of 1/2 spams, thinking for a best rhythm that could only suit to this music is more productive in mapping. Some rhythmical examples in your first kiai:
Regarding placements, lets look at the example Irre pointed out. 03:15:873 (1,2) there is a big space between these objects, and the spacing is smaller for 03:16:113 (2,3) than (1,2). And then a massive spacing appears for 03:16:353 (3,4), and 03:16:593 (4,5,1) was just consistent. Is there a hidden logic behind this placement decision, or is just a random placement based on your feelings? In the current placement where (1,2) being larger than (2,3), and (3,4) being even larger, the jump towards (2) and (4) is getting emphasized. Think yourself if (2,4) is really something worth to get emphasized along the song. The pattern itself plays nicely enough, but since there is a weak support from the music, it feels as a random jump. This would mean when someone told your placement lacked in polishing. Yeah, it's pretty much unnoticable when it comes to playing because this is just a fast song, and won't really matter in playing. But the hidden logic behind the placement constructs the quality of a beatmap, and Extra difficulty is no exception for those logics.
Instead of "haters gonna hate", I'd rather say "lovers gonna love".
I really hope you reconsider.
do you even know what backseat mapping is, if what i said was backseat mapping i guess every form of constructive critisism is backseat mapping
there's like a million people on this thread that agree with me and say similar things and you always pick on me for some reason
plus you're saying i look bad when seriously everybody disagreed with what you said and made a meme out of it leave me alone j e e z
1) Well... too random (yes there are both sides of the debate to this)
and
2) Unfair on the other mappers who try to make hard stuff whilst being much more logical to the map, without placing looks of fullscreen 250bpm notes everywhere.
But yeah, if the community wishes to have all the set of 8+ star maps be totally freestyle go ahead. The QATs will clash, the people will fight back (even though they shouldn't really care too much, most know they'll never be able to beat Terror Relinquished ever) and stuff will even out.
The thing I'm concerned about is the lack of logical response in the mods given, let me quote a good example:
And a quote from a mod I did:
2) The qualified section is all about improving maps, in this case, it wasn't unrankable, but it is definitely not something that should be ignored for no reason. Many things in this map can be tweaked to give it the overall edge, @fort defending how the map was made without even changing simple things like this looks bad on you, and the map. Details count.
But yeah, I can't change how you perceive the map, the modders, the community, and ultimately you'll try to rank it again anyway.
If you truly think that total freestyle, even ignoring simple suggestions like the above, is worth the trouble, go ahead. The QATs can deal with overall issues.
2) Suggestions =/= backseat mapping. Are all mods backseat mapping then?
3) Just because something isn't unrankable doesn't mean it's good by any means.
Seriously, people like this that immediately shut down any suggestions frustrate me. Any suggestions help, even if you don't agree with them.
I'll be modding the hardest difficulty tonight or tomorrow.
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About the terror relinquished: good map, pretty easy to read, just hard as fuck to aim (for me 
). I can play it with relax though and I had quite a lot of fun on it.
Keep up the good work fort senpai
). I can play it with relax though and I had quite a lot of fun on it.Keep up the good work fort senpai
by default its always prioritized to map based of what song provides into a map..........
but 250 bpm with duration almost the same as marathon.. i don't have any idea if i should agree with fort or with sir loctav this time..
inb4 the 11th diff with crazy 1/2 & 1/4 patterns at once \
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but 250 bpm with duration almost the same as marathon.. i don't have any idea if i should agree with fort or with sir loctav this time..
inb4 the 11th diff with crazy 1/2 & 1/4 patterns at once \
/I'm here to help! :3
[Terror Relinquished]
If you get the point of my mod, then apply same (aesthetic) things for the rest of the diffs Good Luck :3
[Terror Relinquished]
[General]
Make orange more brown, it will add some creepyness
[Mapping and NCs]
00:48:033 - lengthen it to 00:51:873
Also 00:50:943 - this part has some cool singletapping patterns to make :3
01:11:073 (1) - make it pink as the previous one, because there is that bass thing
01:12:513 (10,11) - NC them and make them pink
01:14:433 (3,4,5,6) - NC and pink
01:14:913 (1,3,1,3,4) - NC and Pink (here, do whatever you think)
01:17:823 (1,2,7) - ^
01:31:113 - NC on (7) or (8)
01:35:793 (7,8) - Reversing 1/4 slider fits more
01:36:753 (7,8) - ^
01:36:993 (1,2,3,4) - maybe some nice drawing out of it?
01:39:633 (7) - Reversing 1/4 slider fits more
01:40:473 (6,7) - ^
01:44:433 (7,8) - ^
01:45:153 - that's nice but keep (3,4) at the same curves as (1,2). Seems prettier
01:47:313 (7) - Reversing 1/4 slider fits more
01:48:153 (6,7) - ^
01:48:993 (3,1) - make some big jump out of these three ticks
01:52:353 (1,2,3,4) - Orange!! (Or brown if you will change it)
01:56:073 - ^
02:00:033 - ^
02:03:753 - NC and dark blue
02:12:513 - Use Orange/Brown and Dark blue here, it's not the same part of the song at all tho (repeat at the same parts)
02:15:393 (1,2,3,4) - Grey then (5,6) NC and dark grey
02:19:233 (1,2,3,4) - ^
02:20:193 - 02:26:793 - EVERY (1) Slider - Make them reversing 1/4 slider, it sounds MUUUCH better (repeat at the same parts)
02:29:793 - 02:34:233 - ^
02:33:633 - Like that!
03:17:073 - Like that!
03:20:553 - NC, you get the point, do the same thing to the rest
Make orange more brown, it will add some creepyness
[Mapping and NCs]
00:48:033 - lengthen it to 00:51:873
Also 00:50:943 - this part has some cool singletapping patterns to make :3
01:11:073 (1) - make it pink as the previous one, because there is that bass thing
01:12:513 (10,11) - NC them and make them pink
01:14:433 (3,4,5,6) - NC and pink
01:14:913 (1,3,1,3,4) - NC and Pink (here, do whatever you think)
01:17:823 (1,2,7) - ^
01:31:113 - NC on (7) or (8)
01:35:793 (7,8) - Reversing 1/4 slider fits more
01:36:753 (7,8) - ^
01:36:993 (1,2,3,4) - maybe some nice drawing out of it?
01:39:633 (7) - Reversing 1/4 slider fits more
01:40:473 (6,7) - ^
01:44:433 (7,8) - ^
01:45:153 - that's nice but keep (3,4) at the same curves as (1,2). Seems prettier
01:47:313 (7) - Reversing 1/4 slider fits more
01:48:153 (6,7) - ^
01:48:993 (3,1) - make some big jump out of these three ticks
01:52:353 (1,2,3,4) - Orange!! (Or brown if you will change it)
01:56:073 - ^
02:00:033 - ^
02:03:753 - NC and dark blue
02:12:513 - Use Orange/Brown and Dark blue here, it's not the same part of the song at all tho (repeat at the same parts)
02:15:393 (1,2,3,4) - Grey then (5,6) NC and dark grey
02:19:233 (1,2,3,4) - ^
02:20:193 - 02:26:793 - EVERY (1) Slider - Make them reversing 1/4 slider, it sounds MUUUCH better (repeat at the same parts)
02:29:793 - 02:34:233 - ^
02:33:633 - Like that!
03:17:073 - Like that!
03:20:553 - NC, you get the point, do the same thing to the rest
If you get the point of my mod, then apply same (aesthetic) things for the rest of the diffs
Good Luck :3Terror Relinquished
-i dont think i need to explain this but flow plz 00:37:353 (6,1) - 00:39:873 (3,4,1) -
-00:46:293 - this beat is way stronger than 00:46:233 - . So using http://puu.sh/ktgxy/fbe9956436.jpg makes more sense. i'd say the same for 00:46:593 (3,4) - but it's more subjective i guess, up to you on that one. Same with similar places
-01:09:153 (1,2) - distance looks a bit too much compared to this whole section. Try reducing the distance a bit more so it fits the it's mapped
-02:25:473 (3) - this slider with red node looks actually pretty random xd all the others are curved or just straight
-03:40:713 (6) - works better around x231y375 or something cuz the dropoff between 03:40:233 (3,4) - isn't as linear 5-6 flows, if you get what i mean..
terror
-00:46:113 (1) - 3/4 + circle sounds so much better tho ;w; same with others. I do get the idea why you're ignoring it, but sounds so bad really
-02:02:673 (13,1) - pretty exaggerated jump you made here. Compared to similar sounds in this section. you should nerf it
-03:47:313 (5,6,1) - flow plz
extra
-00:32:193 (1) - shouldnt this be green?xd not that it matters tho
-01:04:713 (7,8) - distance tho.. i'd move 01:04:713 (7,8) - bit apart so it's constant with patterns like 01:07:233 (1,2) - or 01:11:073 (1,2) -
-04:25:953 (1,3) - looks better not overlapped at all xd
-04:27:873 (1,2,3,4) - better > 02:33:633 (1,2) - 00:46:113 (1,2,3,4) -
expert
-04:27:873 (1,2) - better > 02:33:633 (1,2) -
another
-03:59:553 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - the way these are overlapped isn't too cool for this bpm and what this difficulty is supposed to be. Something easier to read will be better, especially when there's a triple around all these approach circles
hyper
-04:24:033 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - i dont like how many circles you used here ;w; it's supposed to be easy to play but these many circles isnt doing that. Probably the same with 04:25:953 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - , would be nice of you if you add a couple of sliders on those patterns
hard
-01:40:713 (4,5) - weird distance you used here meh.. all other similar patterns have constant distance why not here too
normal
-04:28:833 (6) - could you remove the first red note plz?xd makes the sliders move in a not so ordinary way and it's actually ugly
others are fine i guess
letme know when ur done
-i dont think i need to explain this but flow plz 00:37:353 (6,1) - 00:39:873 (3,4,1) -
-00:46:293 - this beat is way stronger than 00:46:233 - . So using http://puu.sh/ktgxy/fbe9956436.jpg makes more sense. i'd say the same for 00:46:593 (3,4) - but it's more subjective i guess, up to you on that one. Same with similar places
-01:09:153 (1,2) - distance looks a bit too much compared to this whole section. Try reducing the distance a bit more so it fits the it's mapped
-02:25:473 (3) - this slider with red node looks actually pretty random xd all the others are curved or just straight
-03:40:713 (6) - works better around x231y375 or something cuz the dropoff between 03:40:233 (3,4) - isn't as linear 5-6 flows, if you get what i mean..
terror
-00:46:113 (1) - 3/4 + circle sounds so much better tho ;w; same with others. I do get the idea why you're ignoring it, but sounds so bad really
-02:02:673 (13,1) - pretty exaggerated jump you made here. Compared to similar sounds in this section. you should nerf it
-03:47:313 (5,6,1) - flow plz
extra
-00:32:193 (1) - shouldnt this be green?xd not that it matters tho
-01:04:713 (7,8) - distance tho.. i'd move 01:04:713 (7,8) - bit apart so it's constant with patterns like 01:07:233 (1,2) - or 01:11:073 (1,2) -
-04:25:953 (1,3) - looks better not overlapped at all xd
-04:27:873 (1,2,3,4) - better > 02:33:633 (1,2) - 00:46:113 (1,2,3,4) -
expert
-04:27:873 (1,2) - better > 02:33:633 (1,2) -
another
-03:59:553 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - the way these are overlapped isn't too cool for this bpm and what this difficulty is supposed to be. Something easier to read will be better, especially when there's a triple around all these approach circles
hyper
-04:24:033 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - i dont like how many circles you used here ;w; it's supposed to be easy to play but these many circles isnt doing that. Probably the same with 04:25:953 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - , would be nice of you if you add a couple of sliders on those patterns
hard
-01:40:713 (4,5) - weird distance you used here meh.. all other similar patterns have constant distance why not here too
normal
-04:28:833 (6) - could you remove the first red note plz?xd makes the sliders move in a not so ordinary way and it's actually ugly
others are fine i guess
letme know when ur done
Topic Starter
CptSqBany wrote:
I'm here to help! :3
[Terror Relinquished][General]
Make orange more brown, it will add some creepyness
[Mapping and NCs]
00:48:033 - lengthen it to 00:51:873
Also 00:50:943 - this part has some cool singletapping patterns to make :3 oh pls god, that part to make your finger keep cool
01:11:073 (1) - make it pink as the previous one, because there is that bass thing
01:12:513 (10,11) - NC them and make them pink
01:14:433 (3,4,5,6) - NC and pink
01:14:913 (1,3,1,3,4) - NC and Pink (here, do whatever you think)
01:17:823 (1,2,7) - ^ idk with this pink think, it can be random i guess
01:31:113 - NC on (7) or (8)
01:35:793 (7,8) - Reversing 1/4 slider fits more
01:36:753 (7,8) - ^
01:36:993 (1,2,3,4) - maybe some nice drawing out of it?
01:39:633 (7) - Reversing 1/4 slider fits more
01:40:473 (6,7) - ^
01:44:433 (7,8) - ^
01:45:153 - that's nice but keep (3,4) at the same curves as (1,2). Seems prettier fixed a bit
01:47:313 (7) - Reversing 1/4 slider fits more
01:48:153 (6,7) - ^
01:48:993 (3,1) - make some big jump out of these three ticks
01:52:353 (1,2,3,4) - Orange!! (Or brown if you will change it)
01:56:073 - ^
02:00:033 - ^
02:03:753 - NC and dark blue
02:12:513 - Use Orange/Brown and Dark blue here, it's not the same part of the song at all tho (repeat at the same parts)
02:15:393 (1,2,3,4) - Grey then (5,6) NC and dark grey
02:19:233 (1,2,3,4) - ^
02:20:193 - 02:26:793 - EVERY (1) Slider - Make them reversing 1/4 slider, it sounds MUUUCH better (repeat at the same parts)
02:29:793 - 02:34:233 - ^
02:33:633 - Like that! too hard lol, sliders too short to expect
03:17:073 - Like that! i know you hear jack to jack tukiki
03:20:553 - NC, you get the point, do the same thing to the rest
If you get the point of my mod, then apply same (aesthetic) things for the rest of the diffs
thanks for mod CptSqBany and Milan :3, im fixed all except red oneMilan- wrote:
Terror Relinquished
-i dont think i need to explain this but flow plz 00:37:353 (6,1) - 00:39:873 (3,4,1) - fixed slider and circle placement
-00:46:293 - this beat is way stronger than 00:46:233 - . So using http://puu.sh/ktgxy/fbe9956436.jpg makes more sense. i'd say the same for 00:46:593 (3,4) - but it's more subjective i guess, up to you on that one. Same with similar places yeah im prefer using 1/2 beat on there because that pattern too hard to read on AR10
-01:09:153 (1,2) - distance looks a bit too much compared to this whole section. Try reducing the distance a bit more so it fits the it's mapped
-02:25:473 (3) - this slider with red node looks actually pretty random xd all the others are curved or just straight okay fixed node a bit
-03:40:713 (6) - works better around x231y375 or something cuz the dropoff between 03:40:233 (3,4) - isn't as linear 5-6 flows, if you get what i mean..
terror
-00:46:113 (1) - 3/4 + circle sounds so much better tho ;w; same with others. I do get the idea why you're ignoring it, but sounds so bad really most player didnt realized that part has 3/4 pattern, and focused on 1/1 pattern, so it will be good maybe
-02:02:673 (13,1) - pretty exaggerated jump you made here. Compared to similar sounds in this section. you should nerf it
-03:47:313 (5,6,1) - flow plz
extra
-00:32:193 (1) - shouldnt this be green?xd not that it matters tho
-01:04:713 (7,8) - distance tho.. i'd move 01:04:713 (7,8) - bit apart so it's constant with patterns like 01:07:233 (1,2) - or 01:11:073 (1,2) -
-04:25:953 (1,3) - looks better not overlapped at all xd
-04:27:873 (1,2,3,4) - better > 02:33:633 (1,2) - 00:46:113 (1,2,3,4) -
expert
-04:27:873 (1,2) - better > 02:33:633 (1,2) -
another
-03:59:553 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - the way these are overlapped isn't too cool for this bpm and what this difficulty is supposed to be. Something easier to read will be better, especially when there's a triple around all these approach circles
hyper
-04:24:033 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - i dont like how many circles you used here ;w; it's supposed to be easy to play but these many circles isnt doing that. Probably the same with 04:25:953 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - , would be nice of you if you add a couple of sliders on those patterns
hard
-01:40:713 (4,5) - weird distance you used here meh.. all other similar patterns have constant distance why not here too
normal
-04:28:833 (6) - could you remove the first red note plz?xd makes the sliders move in a not so ordinary way and it's actually ugly
others are fine i guess
letme know when ur done okay done :3
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omg wowMilan- wrote:
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2015-10-07 15:43 Ipas: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/655681 t+pazolite - Call me it. (500 Tortures) [Easy]]
2015-10-07 15:43 Ipas: 00:31:713 - Apa gunanya greenline ini?
2015-10-07 15:43 Fort: iya
2015-10-07 15:44 Fort: buat apa ya? :D
2015-10-07 15:44 Fort: ane juga bingung
2015-10-07 15:44 Ipas: Hapus aja
2015-10-07 15:44 Fort: fix
2015-10-07 15:45 Ipas: 01:40:833 - Di sini, kayanya rhythmnya kaya berubah gitu, jadi slider panjang 01:40:353 (4) - nggak kedengaran cocok
2015-10-07 15:45 Ipas: 01:40:713 - Di sini maksuudnya
2015-10-07 15:46 Fort: kan namanya juga easy
2015-10-07 15:46 Fort: jadi ane yakin pasti player kgk bisa baca itu ritme
2015-10-07 15:46 Fort: soalnya
2015-10-07 15:46 Fort: sightreading > pattern reading
2015-10-07 15:46 Ipas: Iya emang, ritmenya agak susah
2015-10-07 15:46 Fort: 01:48:033 (4) - sama kaya ini
2015-10-07 15:46 Ipas: No changes ya :D
2015-10-07 15:46 Fort: yap
2015-10-07 15:47 Fort: ya sebenarnya juga sih ane menghindari pattern yg nempel di garis merah
2015-10-07 15:47 Fort: soalnya kalau misalkan ada pattern itu di map high BPM ane yakin gk bakal kebaca
2015-10-07 15:48 Ipas: 01:54:753 - Nggak diisi? Ini terlalu kosong kelihatannya, soalnya di ritme yang agak mirip sebelumnya, 01:49:473 (1,2,3) - , bagian tengah nya diisi
2015-10-07 15:48 Ipas: 02:00:993 (1,2,3) - Sama ini juga
2015-10-07 15:49 Fort: 01:55:233 (2,3,1) - ane prefer full patterning disini
2015-10-07 15:49 Fort: biar gk kecampur sama vocal
2015-10-07 15:49 Fort: jadi di jeda sebentar
2015-10-07 15:50 Ipas: Ohhh
2015-10-07 15:50 Fort: 02:02:433 (2) - pengennya ane hapus ini
2015-10-07 15:50 Fort: tapi playfield nya susah dipindahin dah
2015-10-07 15:50 Ipas: Hm
2015-10-07 15:50 Ipas: 02:00:993 (1,2,3,1) - Ini mudah kan ngatur ulangnya?
2015-10-07 15:50 Ipas: Ada break
2015-10-07 15:50 Fort: jadi yaudahlah ane hapus 02:04:353 - biar gk terlalu dense
2015-10-07 15:50 Ipas: Jadi kalau mau hapus sih, aku saranin iya
2015-10-07 15:51 Ipas: 02:02:433 (2) - Jadi ini dihapus nggak?
2015-10-07 15:51 Fort: 02:02:913 (3,1) - tapi ini lumayan finishnya rada enak
2015-10-07 15:52 Fort: aim terus geser weh slidernya wkwkwk
2015-10-07 15:52 Ipas: 02:02:433 (2) - Maksud aku yang ini dihapus nggak kak? Biar konsistent gitu
2015-10-07 15:52 Fort: gk deh
2015-10-07 15:53 Ipas: Oh ok
2015-10-07 15:53 Fort: kayanya bakal susah nentuin distance
2015-10-07 15:53 Ipas: Lanjuut
2015-10-07 15:53 Fort: 01:59:073 (3,1) - ini udah jeda
2015-10-07 15:53 Fort: kalau dijeda lagi kayanya makin kosong lol
2015-10-07 15:53 Ipas: Iya iya xD
2015-10-07 15:54 Ipas: 02:31:233 - Kalau yang ini gimana?
2015-10-07 15:55 Fort: ummm itu bagus
2015-10-07 15:55 Fort: tapi ini nih
2015-10-07 15:55 Fort: 02:27:873 (1,2,1) -
2015-10-07 15:55 Fort: overlap nya greget
2015-10-07 15:55 Fort: xD
2015-10-07 15:55 Fort: bentar
2015-10-07 15:56 Ipas: 02:31:233 - Nggak diisi yang ini?
2015-10-07 15:56 Fort: dah
2015-10-07 15:56 Fort: udah
2015-10-07 15:56 Fort: fix
2015-10-07 15:56 Ipas: Oh ok
2015-10-07 15:58 Fort: ah
2015-10-07 15:58 Fort: ipas, ane sekarang mau keluar dulu
2015-10-07 15:58 Fort: nanti ane bilang kalau dah balik lagi
2015-10-07 15:58 Fort: sementara di post trit dulu ya :3
2015-10-07 15:58 Ipas: 04:29:313 (4) - Boleh nggak ini 1/3 reverse? xD Kayanya terlalu rumit, tapi gimana pendapat kk?
2015-10-07 15:58 Ipas: Ini yang terakhir
2015-10-07 15:58 Ipas: Biar Normal aja yang trit
2015-10-07 15:58 Fort: ACTION is away: go to market
2015-10-07 15:59 Fort: 1/3 reverse?
2015-10-07 15:59 Fort: kan gk ada 1/3 disini dah
2015-10-07 15:59 Fort: wkkwkwkwk
2015-10-07 16:00 Fort: mungkin itu pattern, pattern terackhir
2015-10-07 16:00 Ipas: xD
2015-10-07 16:00 Ipas: Haha ok
2015-10-07 16:00 Ipas: Tapi cocok 1/3 menurutku
2015-10-07 16:00 Ipas: Eh
2015-10-07 16:00 Ipas: 3/4
2015-10-07 16:00 Ipas: Salah lol
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- 00:31:713 - Useless again
- 01:16:353 - From this beat, each of beat gets strong sound, so why don't you try to fill them as well? As you see they hold the similar to 01:14:433 (4) -
- 01:03:873 (1) - I don't understand why you placed new combo here . You seems not do it too on 01:11:553 (2) - which have rather similar around this beat
- 01:03:393 (1,1) - What is this spacing oh my it's too large, make it lower please
- 00:26:913 (1,2,3) - Why reduced spacing? I see no reason for this since rhythm still constant
Will continue later on IRC hoah I feel sleepy
Sorry I don't know what is this
Too hard is totally meaningless
Seeing all of the player getting D in NF is not a good trend
This is not a challenging game
This is just a music game
Please
Too hard is totally meaningless
Seeing all of the player getting D in NF is not a good trend
This is not a challenging game
This is just a music game
Please
DQ because too hardDesperate-kun wrote:
Sorry I don't know what is this
Too hard is totally meaningless
Seeing all of the player getting D in NF is not a good trend
This is not a challenging game
This is just a music game
Please
Topic Starter
Too hard means it can be good game for Top tier players who boring playing tv sizes with DT and some maps with some specific mods, please map is played and designed for No Mod and i give all diffs to all players with His/her own level skill
and im sure players will got B or A on hardest diff, they just need to learn how to singletapping and they can Pass the map
and im sure players will got B or A on hardest diff, they just need to learn how to singletapping and they can Pass the map
that tv size burn tho.. '-'
i hope everything works well this time :3a
i hope everything works well this time :3a
Topic Starter
im gonna update later for thisIpas wrote:
Ha- Ha-
Did IRC for Easy (Indonesian)Log2015-10-07 15:43 Ipas: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/655681 t+pazolite - Call me it. (500 Tortures) [Easy]]
2015-10-07 15:43 Ipas: 00:31:713 - Apa gunanya greenline ini?
2015-10-07 15:43 Fort: iya
2015-10-07 15:44 Fort: buat apa ya? :D
2015-10-07 15:44 Fort: ane juga bingung
2015-10-07 15:44 Ipas: Hapus aja
2015-10-07 15:44 Fort: fix
2015-10-07 15:45 Ipas: 01:40:833 - Di sini, kayanya rhythmnya kaya berubah gitu, jadi slider panjang 01:40:353 (4) - nggak kedengaran cocok
2015-10-07 15:45 Ipas: 01:40:713 - Di sini maksuudnya
2015-10-07 15:46 Fort: kan namanya juga easy
2015-10-07 15:46 Fort: jadi ane yakin pasti player kgk bisa baca itu ritme
2015-10-07 15:46 Fort: soalnya
2015-10-07 15:46 Fort: sightreading > pattern reading
2015-10-07 15:46 Ipas: Iya emang, ritmenya agak susah
2015-10-07 15:46 Fort: 01:48:033 (4) - sama kaya ini
2015-10-07 15:46 Ipas: No changes ya :D
2015-10-07 15:46 Fort: yap
2015-10-07 15:47 Fort: ya sebenarnya juga sih ane menghindari pattern yg nempel di garis merah
2015-10-07 15:47 Fort: soalnya kalau misalkan ada pattern itu di map high BPM ane yakin gk bakal kebaca
2015-10-07 15:48 Ipas: 01:54:753 - Nggak diisi? Ini terlalu kosong kelihatannya, soalnya di ritme yang agak mirip sebelumnya, 01:49:473 (1,2,3) - , bagian tengah nya diisi
2015-10-07 15:48 Ipas: 02:00:993 (1,2,3) - Sama ini juga
2015-10-07 15:49 Fort: 01:55:233 (2,3,1) - ane prefer full patterning disini
2015-10-07 15:49 Fort: biar gk kecampur sama vocal
2015-10-07 15:49 Fort: jadi di jeda sebentar
2015-10-07 15:50 Ipas: Ohhh
2015-10-07 15:50 Fort: 02:02:433 (2) - pengennya ane hapus ini
2015-10-07 15:50 Fort: tapi playfield nya susah dipindahin dah
2015-10-07 15:50 Ipas: Hm
2015-10-07 15:50 Ipas: 02:00:993 (1,2,3,1) - Ini mudah kan ngatur ulangnya?
2015-10-07 15:50 Ipas: Ada break
2015-10-07 15:50 Fort: jadi yaudahlah ane hapus 02:04:353 - biar gk terlalu dense
2015-10-07 15:50 Ipas: Jadi kalau mau hapus sih, aku saranin iya
2015-10-07 15:51 Ipas: 02:02:433 (2) - Jadi ini dihapus nggak?
2015-10-07 15:51 Fort: 02:02:913 (3,1) - tapi ini lumayan finishnya rada enak
2015-10-07 15:52 Fort: aim terus geser weh slidernya wkwkwk
2015-10-07 15:52 Ipas: 02:02:433 (2) - Maksud aku yang ini dihapus nggak kak? Biar konsistent gitu
2015-10-07 15:52 Fort: gk deh
2015-10-07 15:53 Ipas: Oh ok
2015-10-07 15:53 Fort: kayanya bakal susah nentuin distance
2015-10-07 15:53 Ipas: Lanjuut
2015-10-07 15:53 Fort: 01:59:073 (3,1) - ini udah jeda
2015-10-07 15:53 Fort: kalau dijeda lagi kayanya makin kosong lol
2015-10-07 15:53 Ipas: Iya iya xD
2015-10-07 15:54 Ipas: 02:31:233 - Kalau yang ini gimana?
2015-10-07 15:55 Fort: ummm itu bagus
2015-10-07 15:55 Fort: tapi ini nih
2015-10-07 15:55 Fort: 02:27:873 (1,2,1) -
2015-10-07 15:55 Fort: overlap nya greget
2015-10-07 15:55 Fort: xD
2015-10-07 15:55 Fort: bentar
2015-10-07 15:56 Ipas: 02:31:233 - Nggak diisi yang ini?
2015-10-07 15:56 Fort: dah
2015-10-07 15:56 Fort: udah
2015-10-07 15:56 Fort: fix
2015-10-07 15:56 Ipas: Oh ok
2015-10-07 15:58 Fort: ah
2015-10-07 15:58 Fort: ipas, ane sekarang mau keluar dulu
2015-10-07 15:58 Fort: nanti ane bilang kalau dah balik lagi
2015-10-07 15:58 Fort: sementara di post trit dulu ya :3
2015-10-07 15:58 Ipas: 04:29:313 (4) - Boleh nggak ini 1/3 reverse? xD Kayanya terlalu rumit, tapi gimana pendapat kk?
2015-10-07 15:58 Ipas: Ini yang terakhir
2015-10-07 15:58 Ipas: Biar Normal aja yang trit
2015-10-07 15:58 Fort: ACTION is away: go to market
2015-10-07 15:59 Fort: 1/3 reverse?
2015-10-07 15:59 Fort: kan gk ada 1/3 disini dah
2015-10-07 15:59 Fort: wkkwkwkwk
2015-10-07 16:00 Fort: mungkin itu pattern, pattern terackhir
2015-10-07 16:00 Ipas: xD
2015-10-07 16:00 Ipas: Haha ok
2015-10-07 16:00 Ipas: Tapi cocok 1/3 menurutku
2015-10-07 16:00 Ipas: Eh
2015-10-07 16:00 Ipas: 3/4
2015-10-07 16:00 Ipas: Salah lol
[Normal][Hard]
- 00:31:713 - Useless again yeah probably im doing same with Easy diff :3
- 01:16:353 - From this beat, each of beat gets strong sound, so why don't you try to fill them as well? As you see they hold the similar to 01:14:433 (4) - yeah probably i made anti mainstream patterning for players lol
[Hyper]
- 01:03:873 (1) - I don't understand why you placed new combo here . You seems not do it too on 01:11:553 (2) - which have rather similar around this beat yeah, i can say im gonna be creatice guy like after break you click that circle and boom lol
[Insane]
- 01:03:393 (1,1) - What is this spacing oh my it's too large, make it lower please okay sure
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- 00:26:913 (1,2,3) - Why reduced spacing? I see no reason for this since rhythm still constant very nice, fixed
Will continue later on IRC hoah I feel sleepy oh okay sure :3
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Totally agree with thatFort wrote:
Too hard means it can be good game for Top tier players who boring playing tv sizes with DT and some maps with some specific mods, please map is played and designed for No Mod and i give all diffs to all players with His/her own level skill
and im sure players will got B or A on hardest diff, they just need to learn how to singletapping and they can Pass the map
Good luck Fort!
ex2
Topic Starter
thank you :3Milan- wrote:
ex2
Gratz!
Topic Starter
greget in progress
kebetulan kah? mungkin tidak
Wow it's Back! Congratz Fort!
is this the right hp drain????
Topic Starter
yup, it's right :3
Why are people saying this is too hard? Hello? Other difficulties exist too xD
Grats Fort
Grats Fort
Brb opening my client
Re-congratulations fort!
Re-congratulations fort!
Akhirnya, the second 8* stars ranked map
This is the only map I have looked at within the set and I thought it sufficient to say this
[Terror Relinquished]
In general, there are patterns which could be more polished, since they just look like wonky variants of the sort you see in high quality maps.
The map also lacks a lot of structure and shapes which is disappointing from a jump map perspective.
00:35:553 (1) - Why wasn't this a triple or repeating slider? You shouldn't be afraid of putting a triple in here, it's 8.2 stars.
00:39:393 (1,2) - These might play cool, but there's no beat on the blue tick, so it shouldn't be a 3/4 slider, but instead 1/2 sliders.
00:39:873 (3,4) - Between these there's a blue tick which could be used if you're interested.
00:43:233 (1) - Why not a triple or repeating slider?
01:06:753 (3,4,5,6,1) - This should have higher spacing or something more to distinguish from the previous 1/2 section.
01:10:593 (3,4,5,6) - Same could be said again, but there's a different pattern here. What you could do is give both of them the same unique pattern to that particular phrase.
01:14:433 (3,4,5,6) - once again, why's this mapped the same as the rest when it's significantly different.
01:27:873 (11,12) - There's unmapped 1/4 between these.
01:31:713 (12,13) - Same again, this seems weird to miss out this obvious 1/4 but include much more quiet 1/4 which you can barely hear.
01:36:993 (1,2,3,4) - These 3/4 sliders throughout the map should not be a thing. cos there's no 3/4 beat here, I know it looks cool and stuff, but it's musically incorrect.
01:49:473 (1,2,3,4,5) - What is going on with this pentagon? It's so borked i don't even know. This is a highly unpolished shape.
01:50:313 (7,8,9,10) - This doesn't work well, the slider starts on a red tick and ends on the downbeat and then there's a nearly inaudible 1/4 triple played. At least the 1/2 slider should be circles instead.
01:51:033 (13,14) - missing 1/4 again?
01:52:353 (1,2,3,4) - You managed to do those 3/4 sliders and 1/2 sliders here, for starters that's incosistent, but them done as 1/2 sliders here is correct.
01:54:753 (11,12) - missing 1/4 again? I'm gonna stop pointing these ones out.
I'm going to start pointing out scruffiness and stuff
02:13:953 (3,4,5,6) - This looks really amateur, things like this could easily have a shape, symmetry or structure to them, something as simple as that looks way nicer than having that gross overlapping and thoughtless jump pattern02:15:393 (1,2,3,4,5) - This could be made into a straight line rather than it's current borked form with 'slider to stream', set it to 1/2, since (4) and (5) are off the line.
02:18:153 (1,2,3,4,5) - This should be a regular pentagon, looks scruffy. like, this looks a bit neater, but the map is highly overlapping as it is.
For history records, the abnove looks like
02:19:233 (1,2,3,4,1) - Personally I'd make this more pronounced, maybe with higher spacing and increased HS volume or samples? like drum-hitfinish?
The map looks like it was put together without much care and with just the eye and no tools to make sure that shapes and such weren't ignored, for instance, 02:22:593 (3,4,5,6) - this could have been a rhombus (diamond), but it's totally wonk.
02:43:233 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Notice here how a nicely arranged set of circles looks much nicer than before?
I'm not saying do that for everything and make it all linear, but right now it just looks like an unpolished form of that.
03:59:313 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - This is another part where it would be much more polished and probably play nicer if it was arranged in the appropriate polygon.
About the last part of the song
04:00:153 (2,3,4) - I cannot hear that 1/4, if it is there, it's beyond insignificant, whether or not I am being deaf or not is another question.
04:07:353 (4,5,6) - THERE IS however 1/4 here, which the above lacks, which is correct.
At this point, I'm not going to mod any further, but none of the jumps have any structure or reasoning behind them, they're just highly spaced jumps, which in itself is reasoned by the music, but the choice in variations in the spacing with the jumps just doesn't make sense. Also the map is extremely scruffy in terms of circle placement, shapes and the complete (?) lack of symmetry. Also there's those 3/4 sliders which I can't hear the 3/4 for, but i hear the 1/2 they're mapping over. Also just because it's AR10 and 250 bpm and nobody will seem to notice the scruffiness is it any excuse that it should be like this.
I did not exhaustively mod every point in this map, I spent 45 minutes making this mod, which is far longer than I had anticipated.
I would be grateful if this mod wasn't ignored, I did put effort into this, because I've seen you have tried to rank this, and this would be for everyone's sake if these issues were addressed as a whole since I'm sure they don't only apply to this one difficulty. I can explain myself more if required.
[Terror Relinquished]
In general, there are patterns which could be more polished, since they just look like wonky variants of the sort you see in high quality maps.
The map also lacks a lot of structure and shapes which is disappointing from a jump map perspective.
00:35:553 (1) - Why wasn't this a triple or repeating slider? You shouldn't be afraid of putting a triple in here, it's 8.2 stars.
00:39:393 (1,2) - These might play cool, but there's no beat on the blue tick, so it shouldn't be a 3/4 slider, but instead 1/2 sliders.
00:39:873 (3,4) - Between these there's a blue tick which could be used if you're interested.
00:43:233 (1) - Why not a triple or repeating slider?
01:06:753 (3,4,5,6,1) - This should have higher spacing or something more to distinguish from the previous 1/2 section.
01:10:593 (3,4,5,6) - Same could be said again, but there's a different pattern here. What you could do is give both of them the same unique pattern to that particular phrase.
01:14:433 (3,4,5,6) - once again, why's this mapped the same as the rest when it's significantly different.
01:27:873 (11,12) - There's unmapped 1/4 between these.
01:31:713 (12,13) - Same again, this seems weird to miss out this obvious 1/4 but include much more quiet 1/4 which you can barely hear.
01:36:993 (1,2,3,4) - These 3/4 sliders throughout the map should not be a thing. cos there's no 3/4 beat here, I know it looks cool and stuff, but it's musically incorrect.
01:49:473 (1,2,3,4,5) - What is going on with this pentagon? It's so borked i don't even know. This is a highly unpolished shape.
01:50:313 (7,8,9,10) - This doesn't work well, the slider starts on a red tick and ends on the downbeat and then there's a nearly inaudible 1/4 triple played. At least the 1/2 slider should be circles instead.
01:51:033 (13,14) - missing 1/4 again?
01:52:353 (1,2,3,4) - You managed to do those 3/4 sliders and 1/2 sliders here, for starters that's incosistent, but them done as 1/2 sliders here is correct.
01:54:753 (11,12) - missing 1/4 again? I'm gonna stop pointing these ones out.
I'm going to start pointing out scruffiness and stuff
02:13:953 (3,4,5,6) - This looks really amateur, things like this could easily have a shape, symmetry or structure to them, something as simple as that looks way nicer than having that gross overlapping and thoughtless jump pattern02:15:393 (1,2,3,4,5) - This could be made into a straight line rather than it's current borked form with 'slider to stream', set it to 1/2, since (4) and (5) are off the line.
02:18:153 (1,2,3,4,5) - This should be a regular pentagon, looks scruffy. like, this looks a bit neater, but the map is highly overlapping as it is.
For history records, the abnove looks like
02:19:233 (1,2,3,4,1) - Personally I'd make this more pronounced, maybe with higher spacing and increased HS volume or samples? like drum-hitfinish?
The map looks like it was put together without much care and with just the eye and no tools to make sure that shapes and such weren't ignored, for instance, 02:22:593 (3,4,5,6) - this could have been a rhombus (diamond), but it's totally wonk.
02:43:233 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Notice here how a nicely arranged set of circles looks much nicer than before?
I'm not saying do that for everything and make it all linear, but right now it just looks like an unpolished form of that.
03:59:313 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - This is another part where it would be much more polished and probably play nicer if it was arranged in the appropriate polygon.
About the last part of the song
04:00:153 (2,3,4) - I cannot hear that 1/4, if it is there, it's beyond insignificant, whether or not I am being deaf or not is another question.
04:07:353 (4,5,6) - THERE IS however 1/4 here, which the above lacks, which is correct.
At this point, I'm not going to mod any further, but none of the jumps have any structure or reasoning behind them, they're just highly spaced jumps, which in itself is reasoned by the music, but the choice in variations in the spacing with the jumps just doesn't make sense. Also the map is extremely scruffy in terms of circle placement, shapes and the complete (?) lack of symmetry. Also there's those 3/4 sliders which I can't hear the 3/4 for, but i hear the 1/2 they're mapping over. Also just because it's AR10 and 250 bpm and nobody will seem to notice the scruffiness is it any excuse that it should be like this.
I did not exhaustively mod every point in this map, I spent 45 minutes making this mod, which is far longer than I had anticipated.
I would be grateful if this mod wasn't ignored, I did put effort into this, because I've seen you have tried to rank this, and this would be for everyone's sake if these issues were addressed as a whole since I'm sure they don't only apply to this one difficulty. I can explain myself more if required.
Topic Starter
1/4 = more RSI
lemme explain all
lemme explain all
thanks for your opinionsHula wrote:
This is the only map I have looked at within the set and I thought it sufficient to say this yup thanks
[Terror Relinquished]
In general, there are patterns which could be more polished, since they just look like wonky variants of the sort you see in high quality maps. it has been already polished please
The map also lacks a lot of structure and shapes which is disappointing from a jump map perspective. at some moment this jump can be good, not sure if good look symmetrical can be good on some jumps
00:35:553 (1) - Why wasn't this a triple or repeating slider? You shouldn't be afraid of putting a triple in here, it's 8.2 stars. probably it's really strong 1/2 there right? it really efficient with less click hold with that massive jump
00:39:393 (1,2) - These might play cool, but there's no beat on the blue tick, so it shouldn't be a 3/4 slider, but instead 1/2 sliders. that one is being 3/4 because the BG song has really different from other, so 3/4 is better, just like hold sliders
00:39:873 (3,4) - Between these there's a blue tick which could be used if you're interested. pay attention to jumps in there if im put 3/4 sliders on 00:39:873 (3) - it can be boring and repetitive 3/4 sliders before, so im putting 1/2 jump since on song has really strong beat to cover that 1/4
00:43:233 (1) - Why not a triple or repeating slider? as i said before, it can be possible if i didnt map that too much
01:06:753 (3,4,5,6,1) - This should have higher spacing or something more to distinguish from the previous 1/2 section. kinda subjective with this thing, since it's a straight flow pattern no need to increase distance
01:10:593 (3,4,5,6) - Same could be said again, but there's a different pattern here. What you could do is give both of them the same unique pattern to that particular phrase. but it can be similiar movement right? probably im focused to doing some straight movement there not really a jumpy pattern
01:14:433 (3,4,5,6) - once again, why's this mapped the same as the rest when it's significantly different. im sure im doing right thing on there
01:27:873 (11,12) - There's unmapped 1/4 between these. it's 1/6, nobody wants click 1/6 on 250bpm map
01:31:713 (12,13) - Same again, this seems weird to miss out this obvious 1/4 but include much more quiet 1/4 which you can barely hear. same like above, pay attention to the song please
01:36:993 (1,2,3,4) - These 3/4 sliders throughout the map should not be a thing. cos there's no 3/4 beat here, I know it looks cool and stuff, but it's musically incorrect. at the moment im put that 3/4 sliderend has been muted by myself so it can be interesting emphasize on song since it's really interesting beat for me
01:49:473 (1,2,3,4,5) - What is going on with this pentagon? It's so borked i don't even know. This is a highly unpolished shape. since when i made pentagon? probably im just put circle and didnt noticing that thing, im just focusing on gameplay thing, not editor look
01:50:313 (7,8,9,10) - This doesn't work well, the slider starts on a red tick and ends on the downbeat and then there's a nearly inaudible 1/4 triple played. At least the 1/2 slider should be circles instead. sometimes that pattern kinda be good with that thing
01:51:033 (13,14) - missing 1/4 again? please it's 1/6 im gonna stop mapping with 1/6 beats
01:52:353 (1,2,3,4) - You managed to do those 3/4 sliders and 1/2 sliders here, for starters that's incosistent, but them done as 1/2 sliders here is correct. but that part on non kiai part right? so im doing something different and unique, and it can be consistent for patterning
01:54:753 (11,12) - missing 1/4 again? I'm gonna stop pointing these ones out. yeah you gonna stop mention that 1/6s
I'm going to start pointing out scruffiness and stuff
02:13:953 (3,4,5,6) - This looks really amateur, things like this could easily have a shape, symmetry or structure to them, something as simple as that looks so this pattern is not okay? im gonna sure that pattern is good with that angle the jumps can be stable, im im doing that overlap with purpose so please dont hate overlapway nicer than having that gross overlapping and thoughtless jump pattern02:15:393 (1,2,3,4,5) - This could be made into a straight line rather than it's current borked form with 'slider to stream', set it to 1/2, since (4) and (5) are off the line. too straight can make the map looks boring, ah that thing is unnoticeable on this diff i think
02:18:153 (1,2,3,4,5) - This should be a regular pentagon, looks scruffy. like, this looks a bit neater, but the map is highly overlapping as it is.yeah that's why im put good pattern to prevent overlap missread, im sure that pattern 100% readable since only 02:18:513 (4,5) - overlapped, less overlap for 02:18:513 (4) - to make this pattern clearly visible and more overlap on 02:18:633 (5) - since 02:17:913 (9) - has been dissapear on gameplay and i didnt want to stack this 02:18:153 (1) - because i didnt stack some jump pattern
For history records, the abnove looks like
02:19:233 (1,2,3,4,1) - Personally I'd make this more pronounced, maybe with higher spacing and increased HS volume or samples? like drum-hitfinish? the song too loud and can be supporting hitsounding even without hitsound
The map looks like it was put together without much care and with just the eye and no tools to make sure that shapes and such weren't ignored, for instance, 02:22:593 (3,4,5,6) - this could have been a rhombus (diamond), but it's totally wonk. i didnt see any rhombus or whatever, im just focusing on distance there not shape
02:43:233 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Notice here how a nicely arranged set of circles looks much nicer than before? yeah looks too rigid
I'm not saying do that for everything and make it all linear, but right now it just looks like an unpolished form of that. since when i mapper symmetry, i dont want map symmetry because it's boring and has limited thinking than put free style mapping
03:59:313 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - This is another part where it would be much more polished and probably play nicer if it was arranged in the appropriate polygon.
About the last part of the song
04:00:153 (2,3,4) - I cannot hear that 1/4, if it is there, it's beyond insignificant, whether or not I am being deaf or not is another question.
04:07:353 (4,5,6) - THERE IS however 1/4 here, which the above lacks, which is correct. so both are correct then
At this point, I'm not going to mod any further, but none of the jumps have any structure or reasoning behind them, they're just highly spaced jumps, which in itself is reasoned by the music, but the choice in variations in the spacing with the jumps just doesn't make sense. Also the map is extremely scruffy in terms of circle placement, shapes and the complete (?) lack of symmetry. Also there's those 3/4 sliders which I can't hear the 3/4 for, but i hear the 1/2 they're mapping over. Also just because it's AR10 and 250 bpm and nobody will seem to notice the scruffiness is it any excuse that it should be like this. thanks, if you want map symmetry map yourself, im not really interesting at them
I did not exhaustively mod every point in this map, I spent 45 minutes making this mod, which is far longer than I had anticipated. yup you have good try, my friend
I would be grateful if this mod wasn't ignored, I did put effort into this, because I've seen you have tried to rank this, and this would be for everyone's sake if these issues were addressed as a whole since I'm sure they don't only apply to this one difficulty. I can explain myself more if required. yeah atleast im explain all things for you, so im done with problem :3
inb4 another dq because lack of rsi pattern :TFort wrote:
1/4 = more RSI
anyway good luck on qualification!
[Terror Relinquished]
00:16:113 (2,3) - 00:18:033 (3,4) - Relatively same noise, but the second has over double the spacing. Then it goes back to 1.2 00:19:953 (2,3) - then 2.5 00:21:873 (7,8) - and these spacing changes are totally uncalled for. All of those kicks should have higher spacing to separate from from the last pattern and emphasize the kicks. Having half being emphasized and half not is undermeaning.
Also whats with all the stacks? I mean yeah stacks are... okay but there isn't any reason for the stacking when all it does is stop you from moving and break constant flow.
I know this is for the later parts, but there isn't any reason earlier for the stops. This is over all difficulties. It's especially annoying over longer sliders like 00:19:233 (1,2) - where they are played to full and for a longer time, then bam, sudden stop.
00:21:153 (5) - Missed NC and a bunch at the start
00:26:433 (5,6,1) - If you only hit the starts, as likely done, then this is much lower spacing than 00:18:993 (6,1) - and 00:22:833 (10,1) - (ps: 00:22:833 (10,1) - should be lower than the first one, since the pitch DOES technically lower, worth pointing out since pitch relevancy is awesome)
00:27:873 (3,4,5) - This angling is rather counter-intuitive, can't slider 4 be lower? I mean the slider points left and you have to move directly over the slider... and not only that but that's also combined with the angle from the first slider to the reverse also being dodgy, this is reasonable but both combined are a bit confusing.
00:33:153 (3,4,5,6) - All patterns like this are also counter-intuitive, 34 has a higher pitch due to the main beat of 3 00:33:153 - having the pitch rise, however 00:33:393 (5,6) - this has wayyyyyyyyyy more spacing and arguably 6 has a much lower spacing than all the other sounds in that four, so why is it higher?
Then suddenly after 00:32:673 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - you do 00:33:633 (1,2,3) - and 00:34:113 (3) - rhythmically should be two notes. This is definately designed to be really hard, you don't need to add this extra slider for no reason other then for tapping breaks, its the same musically as 00:33:153 (3,4) -
However if you do decide to ignore the top point, then 00:34:113 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - why is this curve so out of place? It's a dodgy use of leniency and if not the snap to the stream is out of line.
00:34:593 (1,2,3) - Arguably play here is percieved very weirdly, am I meant to snap or curve to slider 2? Either way if I play it I'm going to be moving to the down-right region so note 3 is very out of place, it should be to right of slider two, not up in a confusing corner after the last two sliders play weirdly against each other already.
(Missed sounds 00:39:753 - 00:39:513 - )
00:40:053 - Definately should be a note here.
00:41:553 (2,3) - Due to the shape of the slider 2, slider 3 shouldnt be higher than slider 2s line.
00:43:113 (6,1) - This curve is very counter-intuitive, most the last sliders had a nice movement from the note to the slider but this has a higher angling to it, I would reduce the angle made here.
01:04:953 (9) - There are three different pitches here, using a reverse slider is the mediocre way to do them for easier diffs but on higher diffs three notes is preferred.
01:05:793 (3,4,5,6) - Lowering pitch = lowering spacing per note here.
01:06:753 (3,4,5,6,1) - This is really unemphasized, 01:07:233 - has a small deep drumlike noise, it should have some spacing and definately not in the same line as the lst two notes. It removes all emphasis when there should be some to the bass sounds. Also, 01:06:753 (3,4,5,6) - They all have the same spacing but would be preffered if the sets of two were seperate, a small mini-jump at 01:06:873 (4,5) - to separate both patterns and indicate more emphasis on the pitch change would be lovely.
The rest of the kiai has the same things, 01:09:633 (3,4,5,6) - lowering spacing slowly etc.
01:13:473 (4,5,6) - Why isnt this two notes like 01:06:993 (5,6) - ?
01:14:913 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Having finishes here but none on the more impactful end notes is disturbing to the player. Either add them to the end to make the end impactful, or don't add them at all.
01:16:833 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - You could be much more interesting with pitch relevancy here, it does down then up, allowing for a more funky spacing. It shouldn't be hard to follow the spacing changes if there is musical backup and this is a relatively calm part with lower spacing.
01:17:793 (1,2,3) - This plays against any play shown, isn't this curved flow? Leniency abuse is pretty annoying at best in a map already hard enough with its jumps, but also there is 1/4 following and 1/4 generally needs to have perfect flow to get into it.
01:23:313 (5,6) - Lower pitch than 01:22:953 (3,4) - but higher spacing.
Blah blah I don't want to repeat myself, I hope you understand my view point.
/me flies
There are tons of inconsistencies in this map, absolutely tons. Blah blah intro main point meh lets get into it.Hula wrote:
The map also lackshigh qualityconsistency
00:16:113 (2,3) - 00:18:033 (3,4) - Relatively same noise, but the second has over double the spacing. Then it goes back to 1.2 00:19:953 (2,3) - then 2.5 00:21:873 (7,8) - and these spacing changes are totally uncalled for. All of those kicks should have higher spacing to separate from from the last pattern and emphasize the kicks. Having half being emphasized and half not is undermeaning.
Also whats with all the stacks? I mean yeah stacks are... okay but there isn't any reason for the stacking when all it does is stop you from moving and break constant flow.
00:21:153 (5) - Missed NC and a bunch at the start
00:26:433 (5,6,1) - If you only hit the starts, as likely done, then this is much lower spacing than 00:18:993 (6,1) - and 00:22:833 (10,1) - (ps: 00:22:833 (10,1) - should be lower than the first one, since the pitch DOES technically lower, worth pointing out since pitch relevancy is awesome)
00:27:873 (3,4,5) - This angling is rather counter-intuitive, can't slider 4 be lower? I mean the slider points left and you have to move directly over the slider... and not only that but that's also combined with the angle from the first slider to the reverse also being dodgy, this is reasonable but both combined are a bit confusing.
00:33:153 (3,4,5,6) - All patterns like this are also counter-intuitive, 34 has a higher pitch due to the main beat of 3 00:33:153 - having the pitch rise, however 00:33:393 (5,6) - this has wayyyyyyyyyy more spacing and arguably 6 has a much lower spacing than all the other sounds in that four, so why is it higher?
Then suddenly after 00:32:673 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - you do 00:33:633 (1,2,3) - and 00:34:113 (3) - rhythmically should be two notes. This is definately designed to be really hard, you don't need to add this extra slider for no reason other then for tapping breaks, its the same musically as 00:33:153 (3,4) -
However if you do decide to ignore the top point, then 00:34:113 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - why is this curve so out of place? It's a dodgy use of leniency and if not the snap to the stream is out of line.
00:34:593 (1,2,3) - Arguably play here is percieved very weirdly, am I meant to snap or curve to slider 2? Either way if I play it I'm going to be moving to the down-right region so note 3 is very out of place, it should be to right of slider two, not up in a confusing corner after the last two sliders play weirdly against each other already.
(Missed sounds 00:39:753 - 00:39:513 - )
00:40:053 - Definately should be a note here.
00:41:553 (2,3) - Due to the shape of the slider 2, slider 3 shouldnt be higher than slider 2s line.
00:43:113 (6,1) - This curve is very counter-intuitive, most the last sliders had a nice movement from the note to the slider but this has a higher angling to it, I would reduce the angle made here.
01:04:953 (9) - There are three different pitches here, using a reverse slider is the mediocre way to do them for easier diffs but on higher diffs three notes is preferred.
01:05:793 (3,4,5,6) - Lowering pitch = lowering spacing per note here.
01:06:753 (3,4,5,6,1) - This is really unemphasized, 01:07:233 - has a small deep drumlike noise, it should have some spacing and definately not in the same line as the lst two notes. It removes all emphasis when there should be some to the bass sounds. Also, 01:06:753 (3,4,5,6) - They all have the same spacing but would be preffered if the sets of two were seperate, a small mini-jump at 01:06:873 (4,5) - to separate both patterns and indicate more emphasis on the pitch change would be lovely.
The rest of the kiai has the same things, 01:09:633 (3,4,5,6) - lowering spacing slowly etc.
01:13:473 (4,5,6) - Why isnt this two notes like 01:06:993 (5,6) - ?
01:14:913 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Having finishes here but none on the more impactful end notes is disturbing to the player. Either add them to the end to make the end impactful, or don't add them at all.
01:16:833 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - You could be much more interesting with pitch relevancy here, it does down then up, allowing for a more funky spacing. It shouldn't be hard to follow the spacing changes if there is musical backup and this is a relatively calm part with lower spacing.
01:17:793 (1,2,3) - This plays against any play shown, isn't this curved flow? Leniency abuse is pretty annoying at best in a map already hard enough with its jumps, but also there is 1/4 following and 1/4 generally needs to have perfect flow to get into it.
01:23:313 (5,6) - Lower pitch than 01:22:953 (3,4) - but higher spacing.
Blah blah I don't want to repeat myself, I hope you understand my view point.
/me flies
Just as a reminder, the qualified section exists to actually improve a map after it was exposed to a larger audience, so you should at least consider when people bring up a load of suggestions towards further improving your map. That doesn't mean they hate it, but it means they care enough to want to see it improved and actually use more of its potential, as opposed to remaining as a rough and potentially unpolished draft of the original idea.
Don't think I need to post a wall on my own in here to get the point across.
Map is not well polished, and if the mapper wants to change that there are plenty of people willing to help out and improve its quality and overall concept.
Beatmap Listing, Qualified Section wrote:
They are in "qualified" status for up to one week.
During this week, there is a high chance they will return to pending if an issue is found.
This category is recommended for people who:
Want to play cutting-edge maps.
Want to help keep map quality top-notch! (make sure to leave your feedback)
Don't think I need to post a wall on my own in here to get the point across.
Map is not well polished, and if the mapper wants to change that there are plenty of people willing to help out and improve its quality and overall concept.
Topic Starter
Ink Nijihara wrote:
[Terror Relinquished]There are tons of inconsistencies in this map, absolutely tons. Blah blah intro main point meh lets get into it.Hula wrote:
The map also lackshigh qualityconsistency
00:16:113 (2,3) - 00:18:033 (3,4) - Relatively same noise, but the second has over double the spacing. Then it goes back to 1.2 00:19:953 (2,3) - then 2.5 so this inconsistencies unrankable? right, please im doing that thing on purpose man 00:21:873 (7,8) - and these spacing changes are totally uncalled for. All of those kicks should have higher spacing to separate from from the last pattern and emphasize the kicks. Having half being emphasized and half not is undermeaning. and it's quite have some meaning on AR10 map
Also whats with all the stacks? I mean yeah stacks are... okay but there isn't any reason for the stacking when all it does is stop you from moving and break constant flow.
00:21:153 (5) - Missed NC and a bunch at the start pay attention at the combos please im gonna put 125bpm setting at the map so combo can be halved beats
00:26:433 (5,6,1) - If you only hit the starts, as likely done, then this is much lower spacing than 00:18:993 (6,1) - and 00:22:833 (10,1) - (ps: 00:22:833 (10,1) - should be lower than the first one, since the pitch DOES technically lower, worth pointing out since pitch relevancy is awesome) 00:26:673 (6,1) - in here has quite high pitch on music so im put high spacing too, so i didnt have any problem on here and im do same thing on here too 00:22:833 (10,1) - because this quite alot good for jumps
00:27:873 (3,4,5) - This angling is rather counter-intuitive, can't slider 4 be lower? I mean the slider points left and you have to move directly over the slider... and not only that but that's also combined with the angle from the first slider to the reverse also being dodgy, this is reasonable but both combined are a bit confusing. so you confused at that pattern, then you need to learn AR10, that that pattern is for last intro pattern so i made something different on there
00:33:153 (3,4,5,6) - All patterns like this are also counter-intuitive, 34 has a higher pitch due to the main beat of 3 00:33:153 - having the pitch rise, however 00:33:393 (5,6) - this has wayyyyyyyyyy more spacing and arguably 6 has a much lower spacing than all the other sounds in that four, so why is it higher?
Then suddenly after 00:32:673 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - you do 00:33:633 (1,2,3) - and 00:34:113 (3) - rhythmically should be two notes. This is definately designed to be really hard, you don't need to add this extra slider for no reason other then for tapping breaks, its the same musically as 00:33:153 (3,4) -
However if you do decide to ignore the top point, then 00:34:113 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - why is this curve so out of place? It's a dodgy use of leniency and if not the snap to the stream is out of line. please im doing this because after slider pattern has Stream and it can be good flow on gameplay, so it can be possible if im doing this mapping, so im okay with this
00:34:593 (1,2,3) - Arguably play here is percieved very weirdly, am I meant to snap or curve to slider 2? Either way if I play it I'm going to be moving to the down-right region so note 3 is very out of place, it should be to right of slider two, not up in a confusing corner after the last two sliders play weirdly against each other already. it's not confusing at all because you click that slider 1/2 is easy to hit then you must move to 00:35:073 (3,4,5) - , this can be best flow on gameplay
(Missed sounds 00:39:753 - 00:39:513 - ) lol i didnt hear the song when im mapping that part
00:40:053 - Definately should be a note here. im just focusing on 1/2 patterning there so i think it can be better without 1/4
00:41:553 (2,3) - Due to the shape of the slider 2, slider 3 shouldnt be higher than slider 2s line. so it can be unrankable when im put slider like that? please enjoy that more
00:43:113 (6,1) - This curve is very counter-intuitive, most the last sliders had a nice movement from the note to the slider but this has a higher angling to it, I would reduce the angle made here. that curve can be supporting jumps on 00:43:233 (1,2) - , it's really helping players to doing some back and forth movement, so yeah this is why im doing that
01:04:953 (9) - There are three different pitches here, using a reverse slider is the mediocre way to do them for easier diffs but on higher diffs three notes is preferred. oh why you didnt like this, this pattern is just like introducing of new pattern you get rid of this, probably it makes life easier
01:05:793 (3,4,5,6) - Lowering pitch = lowering spacing per note here. i didnt really get it that spacing kinda low on this super fast map
01:06:753 (3,4,5,6,1) - This is really unemphasized, 01:07:233 - has a small deep drumlike noise, it should have some spacing and definately not in the same line as the lst two notes. It removes all emphasis when there should be some to the bass sounds. Also, 01:06:753 (3,4,5,6) - They all have the same spacing but would be preffered if the sets of two were seperate, a small mini-jump at 01:06:873 (4,5) - to separate both patterns and indicate more emphasis on the pitch change would be lovely. unemphasized?? so then why im put notes like 01:06:753 (3,4) - + 01:06:993 (5,6) - + 01:07:113 (6,1) - it can be emphasize song with cursor movement
The rest of the kiai has the same things, 01:09:633 (3,4,5,6) - lowering spacing slowly etc. i tell you that spacing kinda low for fast map like this
01:13:473 (4,5,6) - Why isnt this two notes like 01:06:993 (5,6) - ? 01:13:713 (6) - = kick 01:13:953 (1) - = snare. so it's fine
01:14:913 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Having finishes here but none on the more impactful end notes is disturbing to the player. Either add them to the end to make the end impactful, or don't add them at all. but on that part still have synth sound, i deciding to not put much jumps there so it can be stable speed
01:16:833 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - You could be much more interesting with pitch relevancy here, it does down then up, allowing for a more funky spacing. It shouldn't be hard to follow the spacing changes if there is musical backup and this is a relatively calm part with lower spacing. this is why i called pitch relevancy on my mapping life
01:17:793 (1,2,3) - This plays against any play shown, isn't this curved flow? Leniency abuse is pretty annoying at best in a map already hard enough with its jumps, but also there is 1/4 following and 1/4 generally needs to have perfect flow to get into it. you cant hit that simple 1/2 slider patterning? oh boy why you hate this at all?
01:23:313 (5,6) - Lower pitch than 01:22:953 (3,4) - but higher spacing. doing same thing 01:24:993 (4,6) - it can be quite consistent
Blah blah I don't want to repeat myself, I hope you understand my view point. yup im understanding you, thanks for tell me something
/me flies
well maybe just it i can say, sorryJenny wrote:
Just as a reminder, the qualified section exists to actually improve a map after it was exposed to a larger audience, so you should at least consider when people bring up a load of suggestions towards further improving your map. That doesn't mean they hate it, but it means they care enough to want to see it improved and actually use more of its potential, as opposed to remaining as a rough and potentially unpolished draft of the original idea.Beatmap Listing, Qualified Section wrote:
They are in "qualified" status for up to one week.
During this week, there is a high chance they will return to pending if an issue is found.
This category is recommended for people who:
Want to play cutting-edge maps.
Want to help keep map quality top-notch! (make sure to leave your feedback)
Don't think I need to post a wall on my own in here to get the point across. yup you don't need to do it, im exhausting reply them all
Map is not well polished, and if the mapper wants to change that there are plenty of people willing to help out and improve its quality and overall concept.
Well. I find the replies rude because we have put effort into helping Fort, and the maps are fundamentally bad, they're hard and that's why a lot of people like them, there's loads of these hard maps about now. I wouldn't mind osu! having a bit of quality in the ranked maps, that's why Peppy's made that bounty mapping contest, to reward quality mappers, not maps like this. TBH, people don't even want anything to do with this map cos dealing with you Fort, is a stressful and unrewarding experience in itself. You don't take any criticism, only compliments, it's distasteful.
Eh if the QATs DQ then they DQ and if they don't then this map is an official ranked map, it's all up to the staff.
Good luck on surviving the week, Fort.
Good luck on surviving the week, Fort.
Why would you come here and put efforts on your "trashtalk" about this map if you find this occurrence... "distasteful"?
Let the QAT decide, not your face.
Let the QAT decide, not your face.
Let's leave the trash here for once, please only post if you have anything to say about why this map should be disqualified (it IS in qualified for a reason, improvement) and otherwise let the QAT deal with the fate of the map.Ink Nijihara wrote:
if the QATs DQ then they DQ
I just wanna say "relinquished" doesn't seem like the best word choice for the highest diff lol. Relinquished kinda means like you're holding back, or giving up control of something, but not in the sense where you lose your mind, or something goes out of control.
If this map does get DQ'ed, i think it would be in good taste to reconsider those british mods lol. It seems like the Terror Relinquished diff. only got like 3 mods before getting qualified, but I shouldn't be one to complain about lack of mods loool.
Good luck Fort!
If this map does get DQ'ed, i think it would be in good taste to reconsider those british mods lol. It seems like the Terror Relinquished diff. only got like 3 mods before getting qualified, but I shouldn't be one to complain about lack of mods loool.
Good luck Fort!
ded.
Many CATs, not QATs, nyaaaaaaw!!!1 wild CAT1!!!
ready for to RIP
Many CATs, not QATs, nyaaaaaaw!!!1 wild CAT1!!!
ready for to RIP
LOL ^^
Topic Starter
please man, im not trying to be rude but my english is bad, sorry for miss understanding :<<<<<<<
Uuhh let's see
DAY 2 OF QUALIFICATION
I wonder if this map is designed to test the top players skills how far they could survive, and perhaps to reveal who are the pp farmers among the top players
The top std players' skills will be revealed
It might be a shame to see that you are the pp farmers
DAY 2 OF QUALIFICATION
I wonder if this map is designed to test the top players skills how far they could survive, and perhaps to reveal who are the pp farmers among the top players
The top std players' skills will be revealed
It might be a shame to see that you are the pp farmers
The only problem I have with relinquished is this part here,
03:30:273 (1,1,2) -
the spacing is WAY too deceiving, because the slider and note are 1/4 apart but everything else is 1/2 apart and the same spacing. The rest of the map is also mapped at 1/4 so the 1/2s are just sudden, and they caught me out in every play that I didn't remind myself they were 1/2s.
If it wasn't for the fact that it was 8*, then it'd be fine to map like this. But it's not and throws off my flow completely for the rest of map, I'd recommend just mapping the 1/4 beats instead and use a lower spacing for that section
03:30:273 (1,1,2) -
the spacing is WAY too deceiving, because the slider and note are 1/4 apart but everything else is 1/2 apart and the same spacing. The rest of the map is also mapped at 1/4 so the 1/2s are just sudden, and they caught me out in every play that I didn't remind myself they were 1/2s.
If it wasn't for the fact that it was 8*, then it'd be fine to map like this. But it's not and throws off my flow completely for the rest of map, I'd recommend just mapping the 1/4 beats instead and use a lower spacing for that section
Congrats on FINALLY getting this ma qualified! It's been a REALLY LONG TIME! And I think from the time I first got this beatmap to now, it really shows you have indeed improved this map! Please Keep up the goodwork, and Good Luck on getting ranked!
~Bubblun
~Bubblun
More like just separate who can jump and tap fast from the streamy section.
This is the jump ver of apparition atm
This is the jump ver of apparition atm
Since when is modding a map trashtalking, lol? The qualified section exists for COMMUNITY feedback, not solely for QAT feedback.Cerulean Veyron wrote:
Why would you come here and put efforts on your "trashtalk" about this map if you find this occurrence... "distasteful"?
Let the QAT decide, not your face.
Qat and Wild Cat
Finally qualified. Congratz Fort ^^
Hello Fort!
As you know, the new qualification process involves a lot of discussing with the community. This is why I'd like to give this map the opportunity to have further things talked about, seeing that people are actively giving good inputs which should be furtherly discussed.
While we are at it, let me also point out some things:
Terror Relinquished
Do not hesitate catching me ingame if you need help with something. Good luck with further processing!
As you know, the new qualification process involves a lot of discussing with the community. This is why I'd like to give this map the opportunity to have further things talked about, seeing that people are actively giving good inputs which should be furtherly discussed.
While we are at it, let me also point out some things:
Terror Relinquished
- First thing that comes into my mind is the ongoing 1/2 spam, while you are actually ignoring many interesting aspects of the song.
03:53:313 (1) - Taking this as an example, this song has a lot more to offer than what you actually placed. Why did you decide to have continuous 1/2? - Another thing is, that you could emphasize certain spots of the song way better.
00:35:553 (1) - This for instance, could somehow be distinguished from the rest? You should keep in mind that you should follow the song as close as possible, and not just have a jump map for the sake of it. - Placement is also something that could be way more polished at many spots: 03:16:593 (4,5,1) - Why is this spacing immensly bigger than the rest? It does not corresponded with the song at all, hence why it makes really less sense. Placement does really need a lot of polishing.
Do not hesitate catching me ingame if you need help with something. Good luck with further processing!
Topic Starter
oh really just whyIrreversible wrote:
Hello Fort!
As you know, the new qualification process involves a lot of discussing with the community. This is why I'd like to give this map the opportunity to have further things talked about, seeing that people are actively giving good inputs which should be furtherly discussed.
While we are at it, let me also point out some things:
Terror RelinquishedI do see that these are only general comments, but they apply to basically the whole map. I can only suggest you taking a close look at the other comments and mods to make this map suitable for the ranked status.
- First thing that comes into my mind is the ongoing 1/2 spam, while you are actually ignoring many interesting aspects of the song.
03:53:313 (1) - Taking this as an example, this song has a lot more to offer than what you actually placed. Why did you decide to have continuous 1/2? i dont get it why this thing can be unrankable because it has same beats with really better density of maps, probably im made that to make players can stable at game when they will be deal with this again 04:00:993 (1) - so i didnt put much repetitive pattern like 04:00:993 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - too much on 03:53:313 -- Another thing is, that you could emphasize certain spots of the song way better.
00:35:553 (1) - This for instance, could somehow be distinguished from the rest? You should keep in mind that you should follow the song as close as possible, and not just have a jump map for the sake of it. to be honest i was trying put that reverse slider on song but i think it's really sudden to expect because 00:32:673 (1,1,1,1,1) - pattern like this literally same with it and because it's a very high BPM im prefer to make 1/2 slider to prevent some missread at hish slider velocity and high Approach rate map, so why people complain this simple thing??- Placement is also something that could be way more polished at many spots: 03:16:593 (4,5,1) - Why is this spacing immensly bigger than the rest? It does not corresponded with the song at all, hence why it makes really less sense. Placement does really need a lot of polishing. 03:08:913 (6,7) - it same like this pattern doesnt it? so im put more jumps and more speed to emphasize more because on 03:15:873 (1,2,3) - has quite far jumps
Do not hesitate catching me ingame if you need help with something. Good luck with further processing!
Fort wrote:
i didnt ignore the song, i prefer strong one
the strong one has quite 1/2 pattern
so it can be possible if i didnt map 1/4 pattern
it makes this map more harder with more complex patterning
so yeah idk why people have problem with thisEnon wrote:
It don't ignored the song. This map is really fit with the song and playable!
Just it's difficult to the player who don't have high skill.
It seems like you are just blocking "very hard map"
I think you are always seems hate what that "very hard map" be ranked map.
just read this please believe me, im really sure my maps is playable there is no massive problem with this map since it's not really consistent but it designed to make players feel free to play songs and really i think this post is not really strong enough to proof this map is unranked because subjectivesbuny wrote:
The only problem I have with relinquished is this part here,
03:30:273 (1,1,2) -
the spacing is WAY too deceiving, because the slider and note are 1/4 apart but everything else is 1/2 apart and the same spacing. The rest of the map is also mapped at 1/4 so the 1/2s are just sudden, and they caught me out in every play that I didn't remind myself they were 1/2s. yeah but looks this part can be good easy patterning part for this map, so this one can be interesting at mapping
If it wasn't for the fact that it was 8*, then it'd be fine to map like this. But it's not and throws off my flow completely for the rest of map, I'd recommend just mapping the 1/4 beats instead and use a lower spacing for that section
feel free to reply this, bro
translate requested based on what Fort said right here
i didn't translate them proper. i did that on purpose from based what Fort just mentioned thereFort wrote:
Extra diff can be random on mapping (different placement stuff), and the other pattern that is not consistent is fine too. As long as the rhythm is ok and playable for them. Who's fault is that? Me? Or a QAT?
Was expected
Strange to see a DQ this late, due to high amount of mods
Fort, now it's DQ'd, why not look at the mods more gently
Also, jumps can't be random
They need to fit, and give proper emphasis
Strange to see a DQ this late, due to high amount of mods
Fort, now it's DQ'd, why not look at the mods more gently
Also, jumps can't be random
They need to fit, and give proper emphasis
Hi, just dropping a tiny mod by.
Terror Relinquished
Good luck on getting re-ranked.
Terror Relinquished
- 00:39:393 (1,2,3) - For some reason, these slider spacing is nice, but feels kinda having a aesthetic problems, maybe make it like this? The slider 01:36:993 (1,2,3,4) - in Expert looks nice though.
- 00:46:113 (1,2,3,4) - Not so sure with this since the timeline placement is actually like this, it feels strange to play when it is ignoring the stong beats, like a kick or a beat sound.
- 00:47:073 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - Is this just me? Or there is a imperfection in a stream, like on the 7, 8 and 9 note.
- 01:18:753 - 02:04:833 - I know that there's a spinner here, but ignoring the strong beat feels kinda strange but well, doesn't really need it so feel absolutely free to reject this one if this does not suits you.
- 01:36:993 (1,2,3,4) - It kinda feels like it is having a aesthetic problems, maybe make it like this?
- 01:44:673 (1,2,3,4) - Feels kinda strange, the reason is same like above too, how about more blankets?
- 00:41:793 (5,1) - (Insane) Are you sure with this overlap? It somehow does not look nice, but playable though.
- 01:22:593 (1,2) - (Another) You could have move it nearer to 3 in order to make it look like a triangle.
- 01:36:993 (1,2,3,4) - 01:44:673 (1,2,3,4,1) - - (Another) Somehow, bit hard to read.
- 03:20:433 (6) - (Another) You could have move it to x 58 / y 196 to make a triangle with these.
- 03:43:953 (2,4) - (Another) Maybe improve the blanket?
- 04:27:633 (4,1) - (Another) Overlap feels somehow strange.
Good luck on getting re-ranked.
intinya. haters gonna hate, ga suka malah ikut2an ngerusuh.. ngeresahin orang wae :^( tinggal enjoy susah amat....
I don't agree with the 1/2 spam, it really seems like you're doing it for difficulty purposes.
I feel like you can easily figure out how to incorporate the 3/4 somehow, but just ignoring it is going to cause a lot of conflict and surpress the true potential of this song.
I feel like you can easily figure out how to incorporate the 3/4 somehow, but just ignoring it is going to cause a lot of conflict and surpress the true potential of this song.
Didn't looked the map yet, but this quote sounds as if it's fine to leave an "Extra" difficulty in a low quality(=random) as long as it is following the rhythms properly and players being able to hit those. While it isn't true in the beatmap ranking process.Fort wrote:
Extra diff can be random on mapping (different placement stuff), and the other pattern that is not consistent is fine too. As long as the rhythm is ok and playable for them. Who's fault is that? Me? Or a QAT?
Topic Starter
but i mean it's not really too random at flow patterningSonnyc wrote:
Didn't looked the map yet, but this quote sounds as if it's fine to leave an "Extra" difficulty in a low quality(=random) as long as it is following the rhythms properly and players being able to hit those. While it isn't true in the beatmap ranking process.Fort wrote:
Extra diff can be random on mapping (different placement stuff), and the other pattern that is not consistent is fine too. As long as the rhythm is ok and playable for them. Who's fault is that? Me? Or a QAT?
Something I want to note
To those that modded the map while it was qualified, if Fort accepts/accepted something, post again
Then you can get kudosu for that, as a post on aqualified/ranked map can't get kudosu!
To those that modded the map while it was qualified, if Fort accepts/accepted something, post again
Then you can get kudosu for that, as a post on aqualified/ranked map can't get kudosu!
this. terror relenquished feels so empty and dull, its literally just mapped for difficulty. At least try to make it have variety instead of being the same thing for 4 minutesSpaghetti wrote:
I don't agree with the 1/2 spam, it really seems like you're doing it for difficulty purposes.
I feel like you can easily figure out how to incorporate the 3/4 somehow, but just ignoring it is going to cause a lot of conflict and surpress the true potential of this song.
It really is, and the HP2 completely removes the sense of accomplishment when you pass it. It's a hard map. It should be HARD to pass. I asked for this to be raised earlier but I did a poor job explaining why. An 8.2 star map shouldnt be so easy to pass that if you miss an entire stream or an entire jump pattern, you're still alive.mithew wrote:
this. terror relenquished feels so empty and dull, its literally just mapped for difficulty. At least try to make it have variety instead of being the same thing for 4 minutesSpaghetti wrote:
I don't agree with the 1/2 spam, it really seems like you're doing it for difficulty purposes.
I feel like you can easily figure out how to incorporate the 3/4 somehow, but just ignoring it is going to cause a lot of conflict and surpress the true potential of this song.
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Topic Starter
okay looks im gonna change some thing in here, so yeah
Well since mapping an "Extra" difficulty has less to do with distance snappings, I guess it basically starts from a "random". Making those randoms logical is the aim for obtaining quality in an extra mapping in my opinion.
Regarding 1/2 spams especially in kiais, it follows the strong beat of the song and is having a wide flow all over the screen. Nice approach I'd say. The point you should think about is "Were 1/2 the best rhythm to suit this music?". 1/2 spams usually fits nice enough for all songs as long as those songs contain a continuous 1/2 beat. So instead of 1/2 spams, thinking for a best rhythm that could only suit to this music is more productive in mapping. Some rhythmical examples in your first kiai:
- 00:33:333 - 00:34:293 - 00:35:253 - Beats that could be expressed enough but not mapped.
- 00:34:533 (7) - 00:36:453 (7) - Beats that were relatively less important than the beats above, but got mapped.
- 00:39:873 (3,4) - Beat where rhythm approach such as dragging (4) to 00:40:053 and adding a note at 00:40:233 suits more appropriate with the song.
Regarding placements, lets look at the example Irre pointed out. 03:15:873 (1,2) there is a big space between these objects, and the spacing is smaller for 03:16:113 (2,3) than (1,2). And then a massive spacing appears for 03:16:353 (3,4), and 03:16:593 (4,5,1) was just consistent. Is there a hidden logic behind this placement decision, or is just a random placement based on your feelings? In the current placement where (1,2) being larger than (2,3), and (3,4) being even larger, the jump towards (2) and (4) is getting emphasized. Think yourself if (2,4) is really something worth to get emphasized along the song. The pattern itself plays nicely enough, but since there is a weak support from the music, it feels as a random jump. This would mean when someone told your placement lacked in polishing. Yeah, it's pretty much unnoticable when it comes to playing because this is just a fast song, and won't really matter in playing. But the hidden logic behind the placement constructs the quality of a beatmap, and Extra difficulty is no exception for those logics.
Instead of "haters gonna hate", I'd rather say "lovers gonna love".
i just have one thing to say, if 8 stars isn't enough for a simple rhythm map with only 1/2s and a few 1/4s to have od of at least 9 (god please why isn't it 10), then what is?
Just so I can say I support this, HP 2 is nowhere near enough for an 8 star beatmap with such simplistic rhythm and gives a completely false sense of accomplishment to the player.Mazzerin wrote:
i just have one thing to say, if 8 stars isn't enough for a simple rhythm map with only 1/2s and a few 1/4s to have od of at least 9 (god please why isn't it 10), then what is?
I really hope you reconsider.
This guy knows what he's talking about.Sonnyc wrote:
"Were 1/2 the best rhythm to suit this music?"
Personally I find the biggest issue with this map to be the constant 1/2 jump spam. The song offers so much more, and I cant for the life of me see the reason as to why the map isnt more technical when the song clearly supports it? Right now it feels like we are trying to rank a well made rabbit jump map, and not something meant to convey the song in a playable form.
The real issue here isn't even the map. It's the way that any and all suggestions are immediately dismissed by the mapper, be it because he doesn't understand the point, or they just get in the way of his ego.
"The song has so much more to offer"... SO YOU HAVE TO MAP IT LIKE I SAY! Gosh. That's why i hate this community. Mapping... no Music in general is such a subjective thing. Why do you expect every map to be "perfect (subjectively)". What is perfect anyways? This is exactly why so many mappers lose complete interest in getting stuff ranked. If you want to have a high-technical map then go and play some Jenny/Skystar/whatever stuff.
I for myself LOVE Fort's mapping style. And i really enjoy the "constant 1/2 spam", you guys are mocking on. Only because the song COULD BE xy, doesn't mean it HAS to be xy. This is no modding anymore. I would even call it backseat mapping.
I for myself LOVE Fort's mapping style. And i really enjoy the "constant 1/2 spam", you guys are mocking on. Only because the song COULD BE xy, doesn't mean it HAS to be xy. This is no modding anymore. I would even call it backseat mapping.
THIS IS SO TRUE I CANT EVEN EXPRESS! LIKE MY GOSH, PLEASE GUYS STOP!!! JUST STOP WITH THIS CRUD!!!DoKito wrote:
"The song has so much more to offer"... SO YOU HAVE TO MAP IT LIKE I SAY! Gosh. That's why i hate this community. Mapping... no Music in general is such a subjective thing. Why do you expect every map to be "perfect (subjectively)". What is perfect anyways? This is exactly why so many mappers lose complete interest in getting stuff ranked. If you want to have a high-technical map then go and play some Jenny/Skystar/whatever stuff.
I for myself LOVE Fort's mapping style. And i really enjoy the "constant 1/2 spam", you guys are mocking on. Only because the song COULD BE xy, doesn't mean it HAS to be xy. This is no modding anymore. I would even call it backseat mapping.
rofl it's not your map stop backseat mapping. ignoring it does cause conflict but it's not unrankable and fort and I both like it this way and many other people like it this way. please just shut up (no offense) but stop doing this it only makes you look worseSpaghetti wrote:
I don't agree with the 1/2 spam, it really seems like you're doing it for difficulty purposes.
I feel like you can easily figure out how to incorporate the 3/4 somehow, but just ignoring it is going to cause a lot of conflict and surpress the true potential of this song.
I like how people encourage mappers to make more horrible things.
Disgusting.
lol i'm joking btw.
I heard the hardest diff just received 2 mods o.o, that's not enough imo for a diff like this.
I won't really give any opinion about 1/2 spam. Assume the 1/2 spam didn't make sense from the QAT and many mappers/modders/players' viewpoint. Being a little narrow minded won't help you to make this map ranked.
Disgusting.
lol i'm joking btw.
I heard the hardest diff just received 2 mods o.o, that's not enough imo for a diff like this.
I won't really give any opinion about 1/2 spam. Assume the 1/2 spam didn't make sense from the QAT and many mappers/modders/players' viewpoint. Being a little narrow minded won't help you to make this map ranked.
I strongly agree with CB here
Higher difficulties need in-depth mods, either by really experienced modders, or by people who can get great scores (like Azer)
Low-quality modders can't help at all for maps like this
Harder maps just need much more work then easy maps
Higher difficulties need in-depth mods, either by really experienced modders, or by people who can get great scores (like Azer)
Low-quality modders can't help at all for maps like this
Harder maps just need much more work then easy maps
>backseat mapping
how ironicOsuology wrote:
stop doing this it only makes you look worse
8☆ Maps are soo hard for rank #100+ please
STOP WITH YOURS 8☆ MAPS!!!
FFTYPpuskalin wrote:
8☆ Maps are soo hard for rank #0+ please
FTFYBaraatje123 wrote:
Ppuskalin wrote:
8☆ Maps are soo hard for rank #0+ pleaseFFTYFTFY
Personally I think Terror was perfect as the hardest diff, it fits well to the crazy nature and speed of the song. Terror Relinquished just feels unnecessary and overdone, it's largely the same map but with spacing increased everywhere.
What's mapped is mapped though, and it would be really harsh to tell Fort to axe a whole difficulty just because it's too hard. I'm not sure what the best way forward is here.
What's mapped is mapped though, and it would be really harsh to tell Fort to axe a whole difficulty just because it's too hard. I'm not sure what the best way forward is here.
Something that ends the drama pleaseMillhioreF wrote:
Personally I think Terror was perfect as the hardest diff, it fits well to the crazy nature and speed of the song. Terror Relinquished just feels unnecessary and overdone, it's largely the same map but with spacing increased everywhere.
What's mapped is mapped though, and it would be really harsh to tell Fort to axe a whole difficulty just because it's too hard. I'm not sure what the best way forward is here.
why tf do you have it out for me so badly wtf did i do to youOsuology wrote:
rofl it's not your map stop backseat mapping. ignoring it does cause conflict but it's not unrankable and fort and I both like it this way and many other people like it this way. please just shut up (no offense) but stop doing this it only makes you look worse
do you even know what backseat mapping is, if what i said was backseat mapping i guess every form of constructive critisism is backseat mapping
there's like a million people on this thread that agree with me and say similar things and you always pick on me for some reason
plus you're saying i look bad when seriously everybody disagreed with what you said and made a meme out of it leave me alone j e e z
I think it's more because it is too freestyle to a large portion of mappers, difficulty wasn't a problem. But since it was going to be the next hardest map ranked, something too freestyle feltMillhioreF wrote:
it would be really harsh to tell Fort to axe a whole difficulty just because it's too hard
1) Well... too random (yes there are both sides of the debate to this)
and
2) Unfair on the other mappers who try to make hard stuff whilst being much more logical to the map, without placing looks of fullscreen 250bpm notes everywhere.
But yeah, if the community wishes to have all the set of 8+ star maps be totally freestyle go ahead. The QATs will clash, the people will fight back (even though they shouldn't really care too much, most know they'll never be able to beat Terror Relinquished ever) and stuff will even out.
The thing I'm concerned about is the lack of logical response in the mods given, let me quote a good example:
Something that is very justified, is completely ignored for no valid reason. Sliders ending on downbeats on an already fast jump map like this are offputting for the rhythm, and we don't need any more artificial difficulty.Fort wrote:
Hula wrote:
01:50:313 (7,8,9,10) - This doesn't work well, the slider starts on a red tick and ends on the downbeat and then there's a nearly inaudible 1/4 triple played. At least the 1/2 slider should be circles instead. sometimes that pattern kinda be good with that thing
And a quote from a mod I did:
1) "on purpose" without a reason? That's a bit backwards.Fort wrote:
Arphimigon wrote:
00:16:113 (2,3) - 00:18:033 (3,4) - Relatively same noise, but the second has over double the spacing. Then it goes back to 1.2 00:19:953 (2,3) - then 2.5 so this inconsistencies unrankable? right, please im doing that thing on purpose man
2) The qualified section is all about improving maps, in this case, it wasn't unrankable, but it is definitely not something that should be ignored for no reason. Many things in this map can be tweaked to give it the overall edge, @fort defending how the map was made without even changing simple things like this looks bad on you, and the map. Details count.
But yeah, I can't change how you perceive the map, the modders, the community, and ultimately you'll try to rank it again anyway.
If you truly think that total freestyle, even ignoring simple suggestions like the above, is worth the trouble, go ahead. The QATs can deal with overall issues.
In my opinion, isn't a bad difficulty, but some things seem a biiit forced. It's true that is an unnecessary difficulty, because those 1/2 jumps are unfun to play at this BPM. FC'ing them is a pain in the ass and isn't really enjoyable from my point of view.
-Combo (1) and (2) are extremely similar. You could try deleting or even replacing any of them.
-normal-hitclap.wav and normal-hitwhistle.wav have a 3ms delay, better fix them.
I want to say a couple of things about Terror Relinquished:
-HP2 doesn't work at all. If you miss 20 notes in a row, you won't die. What's the purpose on that? HP works a bit different. Try "4,0" AT LEAST.
-Disable Widescreen Support, lel.
-Fix NCs, please. You have a lot of inconsistencies throughout the map. Combos of 12, whilst other have 5. Even if they are the SAME, they don't have the same result on this difficulty due to the bad combo'ing.
-Calm parts are supposed to be... fucking calm, okay? 02:17:553 (7,8) - This section is supposed to be kinda intense, but if you look at it for a moment, you'll notice how different this jump is from the whole previous section, therefore, it's completely overdone. Same goes to 02:18:153 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - especially that star pattern. I mean, why? The song isn't that loud as the background music requires. I can understand some other circles being placed correctly but that's because there's an accentuation change in the music. Do not place random jumps when there's no need to.
-On the other hand, some really loud parts are mapped inappropriately, as you can see in 02:25:953 (1,2,3) - . A lot of overdone spacing used over here and then... BAM, BUM, PLUSH, SPLAAASH! This spacing is really low compared to the rest.
-Some flow suggestions, such as 02:33:153 (3) - in which I'd map the same but Ctrl+G'd, this is for the sake of the next stream 02:33:393 (4,5) - it makes it easier to tap instead of doing a forced movement.
-Something similar to what I mentioned above, 02:48:033 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - why is the suddenly decrease of spacing? It shouldn't be the same or at least something similar to what you mapped in this section? Why is this part SO different from the others? Why is so easy?
-Misleading of some rhythms, such as 02:56:433 (7) - 03:00:273 (7) - 03:04:113 (7) - where a stream would fit perfectly and sound even better.
-03:53:313 - Compared to the other Kiais, this one is the easiest one, whereas 03:06:273 - is the same, even when isn't a Kiai.
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Isn't bad, overall. But I wouldn't map such a difficulty.
-Combo (1) and (2) are extremely similar. You could try deleting or even replacing any of them.
-normal-hitclap.wav and normal-hitwhistle.wav have a 3ms delay, better fix them.
I want to say a couple of things about Terror Relinquished:
-HP2 doesn't work at all. If you miss 20 notes in a row, you won't die. What's the purpose on that? HP works a bit different. Try "4,0" AT LEAST.
-Disable Widescreen Support, lel.
-Fix NCs, please. You have a lot of inconsistencies throughout the map. Combos of 12, whilst other have 5. Even if they are the SAME, they don't have the same result on this difficulty due to the bad combo'ing.
-Calm parts are supposed to be... fucking calm, okay? 02:17:553 (7,8) - This section is supposed to be kinda intense, but if you look at it for a moment, you'll notice how different this jump is from the whole previous section, therefore, it's completely overdone. Same goes to 02:18:153 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - especially that star pattern. I mean, why? The song isn't that loud as the background music requires. I can understand some other circles being placed correctly but that's because there's an accentuation change in the music. Do not place random jumps when there's no need to.
-On the other hand, some really loud parts are mapped inappropriately, as you can see in 02:25:953 (1,2,3) - . A lot of overdone spacing used over here and then... BAM, BUM, PLUSH, SPLAAASH! This spacing is really low compared to the rest.
-Some flow suggestions, such as 02:33:153 (3) - in which I'd map the same but Ctrl+G'd, this is for the sake of the next stream 02:33:393 (4,5) - it makes it easier to tap instead of doing a forced movement.
-Something similar to what I mentioned above, 02:48:033 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - why is the suddenly decrease of spacing? It shouldn't be the same or at least something similar to what you mapped in this section? Why is this part SO different from the others? Why is so easy?
-Misleading of some rhythms, such as 02:56:433 (7) - 03:00:273 (7) - 03:04:113 (7) - where a stream would fit perfectly and sound even better.
-03:53:313 - Compared to the other Kiais, this one is the easiest one, whereas 03:06:273 - is the same, even when isn't a Kiai.
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Isn't bad, overall. But I wouldn't map such a difficulty.
1) You can't tell someone to shut up and then say no offense. That doesn't make it better.Osuology wrote:
rofl it's not your map stop backseat mapping. ignoring it does cause conflict but it's not unrankable and fort and I both like it this way and many other people like it this way. please just shut up (no offense) but stop doing this it only makes you look worseSpaghetti wrote:
I don't agree with the 1/2 spam, it really seems like you're doing it for difficulty purposes.
I feel like you can easily figure out how to incorporate the 3/4 somehow, but just ignoring it is going to cause a lot of conflict and surpress the true potential of this song.
2) Suggestions =/= backseat mapping. Are all mods backseat mapping then?
3) Just because something isn't unrankable doesn't mean it's good by any means.
Seriously, people like this that immediately shut down any suggestions frustrate me. Any suggestions help, even if you don't agree with them.
I'll be modding the hardest difficulty tonight or tomorrow.
■ Issue with play
■ Aesthetic
■ Aesthetic
Extra
My favourite diff in this set
My favourite diff in this set
- 00:47:073 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Stream aesthetic clashes with the song intro. Playability is fine.
- 01:24:273 (10,11,12,13) - 12 and 13 are hard to read due to overlapping over 10 and 11.
- 01:26:673 (2) - Change to 2 notes instead of a slider, feels better to play.
- 01:28:593 (2) - ^
- 01:30:513 (2) - ^
- 01:45:633 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Consider remapping this pattern, 5,6,7,8 are especially awkward to play directly after 1,2,3,4 (The 2nd jump pattern in this section is the best in my opinion.)
- 02:29:313 (7) - 1/8 slider could compliment music, might cause playability issues due to the nature of 1/8 and 1/16 sliders.
- 03:50:793 (3) - Slider has weird aesthetics compared to other sliders in the section.
- 04:25:953 (1,2,3) - Stream direction makes it awkward to hit notes 2 and 3, consider replacing notes.
Terror
A noticeable improvement over the previous Terror
A noticeable improvement over the previous Terror
- HP 4.5, OD 9
- 00:36:993 (3,4,5,6) - 5 and 6 are awkard to hit. Making 4 more vertical and moving 5 closer towards the centre of the playfield might help.
- 01:05:793 (3,5) - Overlapping notes are quite annoying to read, especially with HD. (For clarification, this particular overlap for some reason is annoying, but most of the other ones are perfectly fine)
- 03:13:113 (2,3,4) - Large portion of big jumps, 2 small jumps, portion of big jumps. Plays badly, increase size of these jumps.
Terror Relinquished
I can't pass this
I can't pass this
- HP3.5/4, OD9.5
- 00:36:513 (1) - Slider has weird aesthetics compared to other sliders in the section.
- 00:37:473 (1) - ^
- 00:41:553 (2) - Move the slider modifier point closer to the centre of the slider to match note 1
- 00:47:073 (1,2,3,4) - Direction of stream clashes with the flow, of the map, consider having the stream go Right -> Left
Posting as I see far too many dumb points being made.
Please respond with concrete reasoning instead of whining through complaining to the ranking system.
Now for some things:
[Terror Relinquished]
OD 10 please. The notelock is really dumb at this bpm.
Lack of polish doesn't really help when sliders are made sloppily and spacing looks extremely arbitrary although I will not go over that.
00:51:873 - why is the break dragged out
01:18:753 (1) - this spinner isn't necessary, and the break too. Why ignore the first 4 stanza's in the first place.
01:34:833 (7) - random slider, this shouldn't exist within this current section. This and the following sliders could easily been made into streams
01:39:633 (7) - ^
01:43:473 (7) - ^
01:47:313 (7) - ^
02:36:513 - why is the break also dragged out
02:50:913 - refer to 01:18:753 (1) -
03:30:273 (1,1) - as mentioned before, lower the spacing here due to lack of emphasis
03:53:313 (1,2,3) - why the switch to a different rhythm that has less emphasis than your previous patterns. In fact, this is the only time you use this rhythm in this section making it inconsistent with your other parts.
This map is also quite inconsistent with its difficulty with parts having easy parts and just spikes up too much making it relatively unbalanced.
http://puu.sh/kJnOv.png
[Terror]
00:46:113 (1) - I find this strange that this isn't a 3/4 sliders, there is a significant sound on that blue tick.
I think the rest of the mods explain the general placements the objects. I would suggest you reread the mods posted again.
Please respond with concrete reasoning instead of whining through complaining to the ranking system.
Irreversible wrote:
Hello Fort!
As you know, the new qualification process involves a lot of discussing with the community. This is why I'd like to give this map the opportunity to have further things talked about, seeing that people are actively giving good inputs which should be furtherly discussed.
While we are at it, let me also point out some things:
Terror Relinquished
- First thing that comes into my mind is the ongoing 1/2 spam, while you are actually ignoring many interesting aspects of the song.
03:53:313 (1) - Taking this as an example, this song has a lot more to offer than what you actually placed. Why did you decide to have continuous 1/2? i dont get it why this thing can be unrankable because it has same beats with really better density of maps, probably im made that to make players can stable at game when they will be deal with this again 04:00:993 (1) - so i didnt put much repetitive pattern like 04:00:993 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - too much on 03:53:313 - - first of all, none of the points made in this QAT post are considered "unrankable." The map is DQ'd to have discussion and reach a consensus on the patterns and design in the map. There is no reason to deny a QAT post due to things not being unrankable. Secondly, the whole map is 1/2 spam at its finest. Mentioning stability and preperation doesn't mean much as the whole is just jump spam in 1/2.- Another thing is, that you could emphasize certain spots of the song way better.
00:35:553 (1) - This for instance, could somehow be distinguished from the rest? You should keep in mind that you should follow the song as close as possible, and not just have a jump map for the sake of it. to be honest i was trying put that reverse slider on song but i think it's really sudden to expect because 00:32:673 (1,1,1,1,1) - pattern like this literally same with it and because it's a very high BPM im prefer to make 1/2 slider to prevent some missread at hish slider velocity and high Approach rate map, so why people complain this simple thing?? - you underestimate players. With AR 10, reading shouldn't be a huge problem even in high bpm like this.. Players aren't as braindead you would think. Personally, I think a triple would work best here.- Placement is also something that could be way more polished at many spots: 03:16:593 (4,5,1) - Why is this spacing immensly bigger than the rest? It does not corresponded with the song at all, hence why it makes really less sense. Placement does really need a lot of polishing. 03:08:913 (6,7) - it same like this pattern doesnt it? so im put more jumps and more speed to emphasize more because on 03:15:873 (1,2,3) - has quite far jumps - the question is, why is there an increase in spacing and speed in that part in the first place. Sure you want to increase the spacing due to the sliders, but in the first place, you did the same part with circles instead 03:08:193 (1,2,3,4) with much lower spacing.
Yes the song is not ignored, but its questionable on why you ignored the 1/4's which are fairly sound to begin with. I fail to see how a excessive amount of 1/2 rhythm creates a more complex pattern. Not to mention you mapped 1/4's like 00:34:353 (4,5,6,7) yet avoid the 1/4's with a similar sound on parts like 00:35:553 -Fort wrote:
i didnt ignore the song, i prefer strong one
the strong one has quite 1/2 pattern
so it can be possible if i didnt map 1/4 pattern
it makes this map more harder with more complex patterning
Playability is not an issue here and hating on very hard maps is also false in this case considering what the people are suggesting is actually making it harder.Enon wrote:
It don't ignored the song. This map is really fit with the song and playable!
Just it's difficult to the player who don't have high skill.
It seems like you are just blocking "very hard map"
I think you are always seems hate what that "very hard map" be ranked map.
buny wrote:
The only problem I have with relinquished is this part here,
03:30:273 (1,1,2) -
the spacing is WAY too deceiving, because the slider and note are 1/4 apart but everything else is 1/2 apart and the same spacing. The rest of the map is also mapped at 1/4 so the 1/2s are just sudden, and they caught me out in every play that I didn't remind myself they were 1/2s. yeah but looks this part can be good easy patterning part for this map, so this one can be interesting at mapping - I actually would suggest you decrease the sapcing between the slider and the circle due to a lack of a spacing emphasis on that part.
Considering all the complaints, I feel that this post is more than enough to disqualify it.Fort wrote:
just read this please believe me, im really sure my maps is playable there is no massive problem with this map since it's not really consistent but it designed to make players feel free to play songs and really i think this post is not really strong enough to proof this map is unranked because subjectives
Now for some things:
[Terror Relinquished]
OD 10 please. The notelock is really dumb at this bpm.
Lack of polish doesn't really help when sliders are made sloppily and spacing looks extremely arbitrary although I will not go over that.
00:51:873 - why is the break dragged out
01:18:753 (1) - this spinner isn't necessary, and the break too. Why ignore the first 4 stanza's in the first place.
01:34:833 (7) - random slider, this shouldn't exist within this current section. This and the following sliders could easily been made into streams
01:39:633 (7) - ^
01:43:473 (7) - ^
01:47:313 (7) - ^
02:36:513 - why is the break also dragged out
02:50:913 - refer to 01:18:753 (1) -
03:30:273 (1,1) - as mentioned before, lower the spacing here due to lack of emphasis
03:53:313 (1,2,3) - why the switch to a different rhythm that has less emphasis than your previous patterns. In fact, this is the only time you use this rhythm in this section making it inconsistent with your other parts.
This map is also quite inconsistent with its difficulty with parts having easy parts and just spikes up too much making it relatively unbalanced.
http://puu.sh/kJnOv.png
[Terror]
00:46:113 (1) - I find this strange that this isn't a 3/4 sliders, there is a significant sound on that blue tick.
I think the rest of the mods explain the general placements the objects. I would suggest you reread the mods posted again.
nice
SITTING IN THE FRONT SEAT SITTING IN THE BACK SEAT, GOTTA MAKE MY MIND WHICH SEAT CAN I TAAAAAAAKEbyfar wrote:
>backseat mapping