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OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
6,865 posts
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Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
Probably most people don't know about recent QAT changes, so I will hand out some information which effecst the ranking process from now on:

  1. QATs do not post anonymized anymore.
  2. Disqualifications can happen before a discussion.
  3. QATs may mod again after a DQ, but don't have to.
  4. QATs can rebubble/requalify a map again after a conclusion has been found.
So in short, QAT's DQ can be seen as additional check for whatever reason and should help for more refined maps in the ranking process.
Dunno how you guys feel about this, but seems okay for Taiko if you ask me. Normaly we talk about stuff anyway and in this way we understand each others opinion better.
Nardoxyribonucleic
osu! Alumni
3,009 posts
Joined May 2011
Nardoxyribonucleic

OnosakiHito wrote:

Probably most people don't know about recent QAT changes, so I will hand out some information which effecst the ranking process from now on:

  1. QATs do not post anonymized anymore.
  2. Disqualifications can happen before a discussion.
  3. QATs may mod again after a DQ, but don't have to.
  4. QATs can rebubble/requalify a map again after a conclusion has been found.
So in short, QAT's DQ can be seen as additional check for whatever reason and should help for more refined maps in the ranking process.
Dunno how you guys feel about this, but seems okay for Taiko if you ask me. Normaly we talk about stuff anyway and in this way we understand each others opinion better.
I have questions about the first two points:

  1. So the QAT bot will be abandoned from now on?
  2. Does "before a discussing" mean the discussion among QATs?
Anyway, it's good to hear that QATs can also take part in requalification. 8-)
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
6,865 posts
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Topic Starter
OnosakiHito

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

I have questions about the first two points:

  1. So the QAT bot will be abandoned from now on?
  2. Does "before a discussing" mean the discussion among QATs?
As it looks, yes. Wouldn't know for what else we need it anymore.
About the second question; QATs may disqualify on their own accord now. So if they find something questionable, they may DQ it. Discussion to other QATs or modder is not needed but can be still done of course. You can see this as some kind of ranking buffer I guess. Like in case of doubt, DQ the map, so people can talk about it and see if it is really worth ranking it in its current state. Once conclusion is found, the map would be ranked again.

Yeah, the counter part of this is of course that some discussions could heat up. But well, I think all we can do now is just testing it and see how it goes on. But be at least sure that you can expect from my DQs(and as I know the other Taiko QATs, from them, too) reasons why stuff has been questioned.
Bara-
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Bara-
Thanks for the info
I heard many people talk about it, about what exactly changed, so this is quite useful
Poor QAT account, that didn't last long ;w;
Spaghetti
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Joined August 2014
Spaghetti
Loving the changes, glad to see we're progressing :D. Just one thing though, is it possible that someone adds a rule in which the same QAT checks the map after requalification?
Raiden
osu! Alumni
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Joined January 2013
Raiden

OnosakiHito wrote:

Probably most people don't know about recent QAT changes, so I will hand out some information which effecst the ranking process from now on:

  1. QATs do not post anonymized anymore.
  2. Disqualifications can happen before a discussing.
  3. QATs may mod again after a DQ, but don't have to.
  4. QATs can rebubble/requalify a map again after a conclusion has been found.
So in short, QAT's DQ can be seen as additional check for whatever reason and should help for more refined maps in the ranking process.
Dunno how you guys feel about this, but seems okay for Taiko if you ask me. Normaly we talk about stuff anyway and in this way we understand each others opinion better.
Finally. That "posting as QAT" was starting to get a bit odd.

I like this even if this means that Ono will DQ all my maps

Keep up the good work!
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane

Spaghetti wrote:

Loving the changes, glad to see we're progressing :D. Just one thing though, is it possible that someone adds a rule in which the same QAT checks the map after requalification?
It'd be pointless when it's a trivial matter (metadata, wrong snapping, etc.), as Nominators could check that by themselves. For other cases, as there will be a discussion after the DQ, it's expected for the involved QAT to be in the discussion itself, and even if he don't bubble/qualify, they would be likely giving some signs of approval after the discussion reachs an agreement.
Spaghetti
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Spaghetti
What I meant was that, if the/a QAT decides that the map should be checked for disqualification again after the first dq, the QAT who checks it again should be the one that performed the first dq. This is to avoid dq's based on subjective views of other team members and to have a map dq'd for reasons that could have been said in the first dq.
Bara-
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Bara-
Why?
QAT are human too
They make mistakes
Sometimes QAT A misses something, so it gets unnoticed
Then it gets requalified
Because it's still an error, it will still get DQ'd, by QAT B, as A missed it
Spaghetti
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Spaghetti

Spaghetti wrote:

This is to avoid dq's based on subjective views
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
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Topic Starter
OnosakiHito

Spaghetti wrote:

Loving the changes, glad to see we're progressing :D. Just one thing though, is it possible that someone adds a rule in which the same QAT checks the map after requalification?
Until there is no official instruction of QATs superior's, there probably won't be such add.
Vali
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Vali

OnosakiHito wrote:

Probably most people don't know about recent QAT changes, so I will hand out some information which effecst the ranking process from now on:

  1. QATs do not post anonymized anymore.
  2. Disqualifications can happen before a discussion.
  3. QATs may mod again after a DQ, but don't have to.
  4. QATs can rebubble/requalify a map again after a conclusion has been found.
So in short, QAT's DQ can be seen as additional check for whatever reason and should help for more refined maps in the ranking process.
Dunno how you guys feel about this, but seems okay for Taiko if you ask me. Normaly we talk about stuff anyway and in this way we understand each others opinion better.
Seems reasonable
Avena
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Avena
Can you add me to the list? :3
Bara-
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Joined April 2013
Bara-
Priti mods taiko?
Mod my map plz
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
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Topic Starter
OnosakiHito
Only people who are fully capable of Taiko. That means, people who played, mapped and modded a lot in this community and proved / showed that a lot of times. Especially mapping is a good inidicator for this, and more important when making real sets.
Raiden
osu! Alumni
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Raiden

Priti wrote:

Can you add me to the list? :3

OnosakiHito wrote:

I only add those who are fully capable of Taiko. Not adding everyone here.
Also, every BN is allowed to mod other modes.
get rekt real priti
Bara-
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Bara-
Priti
Go mod CtB/O!M.
Then I can add you to the list of those modes (as I created those :P)
-Sh1n1-
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-Sh1n1-
To Ono-sempai:

Ohh I have a question because I want to be Taiko BN, I'm Taiko modder, player and mapper but one of my dreams is rank 1 map at least of each mode, 90% of my kudosu was earned on Taiko, is it a problem if one day I want to join to BN or you wont add me at your list?
Bara-
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Joined April 2013
Bara-
One thing to note
Any BN can icon any map they want, no matter what mode it is
I have bubbled a taiko set, and drum'd a hybrid set
Nowadays, things as Taiko BN (just as CTB/OM) don't exist
However, Ono just shows the ones who are/were taiko only
The CtB/Mania lists I made also show 'multi-mode' BN
Hmm, I still think Ono should add them all, but it's his choice, and he said he'll only do Taiko only

To Sh1n1, I personally have only seen you map/mod taiko, so you should be safe :3
Raiden
osu! Alumni
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Joined January 2013
Raiden

Baraatje123 wrote:

Any BN can icon any map they want, no matter what mode it is
They can, but honestly iconing something that one's not very experienced at is not a really wise choice.

And yes Sh1n1, people fully capable of Taiko can be added there


Also I haven't seen ming doing any taiko activity recently, and Ozzy can map/mod osu!standard as well
-Sh1n1-
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-Sh1n1-

Baraatje123 wrote:

One thing to note
Any BN can icon any map they want, no matter what mode it is
I have bubbled a taiko set, and drum'd a hybrid set
Nowadays, things as Taiko BN (just as CTB/OM) don't exist yes, I know, I said Taiko BN because I want to mod only taiko maps, I can mod other diffs too but I don't have experience to bub or rank
However, Ono just shows the ones who are/were taiko only
The CtB/Mania lists I made also show 'multi-mode' BN
Hmm, I still think Ono should add them all, but it's his choice, and he said he'll only do Taiko only

To Sh1n1, I personally have only seen you map/mod taiko, so you should be safe :3 nuuu, I can map std too, I have 1 map ranked
Stefan
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-Sh1n1- wrote:

To Ono-sempai:

Ohh I have a question because I want to be Taiko BN, I'm Taiko modder, player and mapper but one of my dreams is rank 1 map at least of each mode, 90% of my kudosu was earned on Taiko, is it a problem if one day I want to join to BN or you wont add me at your list?
around 50% of my total KD are made by Standard Mods, I still perfered to mod Taiko sets. :P
-Sh1n1-
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-Sh1n1-

Stefan wrote:

around 50% of my total KD are made by Standard Mods, I still perfered to mod Taiko sets. :P
Happy to hear that :3 thank you *-*/
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
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OnosakiHito

Baraatje123 wrote:

However, Ono just shows the ones who are/were taiko only
That's not true. I put those into the list where I know that they are capable of Taiko in a great way.
Yes, this might be in some way strict from me, but in all honest, if I would be someone who is still unsure about making diffs, sets or even spreads, I would rather like to ask someone for help who knows his work and who can ensure me -more or less- that my map won't be DQ'd. An, inexperienced BN can't do that, and this has been proven a few times already (though, there are exceptions). Current guys I added have a minimum of 2 years experience in Taiko with every skill I mentioned in my previous post.
Raiden
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Raiden

-Sh1n1- wrote:

Stefan wrote:

around 50% of my total KD are made by Standard Mods, I still perfered to mod Taiko sets. :P
Happy to hear that :3 thank you *-*/
Yeah, that's like me though the number goes up to about 98% lol (about 2% are standard mods)

So you should be fine anyway
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
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OnosakiHito
2015.09.10- Removed mingmichael and Love from the BNG.
Raiden
osu! Alumni
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Raiden
Okay so this just happened.

p/4497015

I hope it's fixed soon... not like we can afford to lose more BNs..
Bara-
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Bara-
Nwolf and qoot too?
Rip taiko BN
Raiden
osu! Alumni
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Joined January 2013
Raiden
Unless it's not fixed, basically rip.

TNA is completely destroyed if this isn't addressed

And along with TNA also dies Taiko ranking
Bara-
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Bara-
Only Nardo, Ozzy, JUDY and Gezo
Raiden, become a BN and join them (or don't join them, so you can freely rank my maps :P)
Raiden
osu! Alumni
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Raiden
Honestly, I'd prefer them to come back before becoming BN myself (if I ever do).

pls fix ;w;
Surono
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Surono
aih dem.. what happen @_@
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
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OnosakiHito
Current situation is indeed inconvinient, but can be due to the TNA, not a way too big problem. qoot8123 and Nwolf are still the same, just without the possibility to bubble / rank something for the moment. We can still organize ourself and continue as always, with the difference, that the other BN members (and me aaah) must take the bubbling / ranking process. I will keep you guys updated if something should happen. For now our main priority is keeping up with the ranking process and having more BNs again. But for now...


2015.09.10 - Removed qoot8123 and Nwolf from the BNG
Aldwych
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Aldwych
Ewww. Well even with less BN it's still ok. As long as the TNA works that's fine.

(Still need 30 kds for BN lel).
PatZar
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PatZar
lol rip
MBomb
MBomb
I'm not entirely comfortable yet, but I'm currently learning to mod Taiko (I'm a BN from CtB modding, but yeah), so you could possibly add me to this list. (Also if any of the current BNs want to give me some advice over PMs and stuff that would be great <3)
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
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DakeDekaane
Don't be sad guys. It's up to them to keep modding actively, they'll be back when applications open again.
Nwolf
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Nwolf
probably not until December because ~3 months of mods~ (and by then they'll probably be like "oh we've got too many BNs")



still find it ridiculous that we got kicked because of 1 month of inactivity, a month where quite a few people take vacations. Even more that it apparently weighed score more than the other months. Even more because 2 BNs with less activity than qoot remained BN.
Yuzeyun
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Yuzeyun
Let's give a warm welcome to tasuke912 and Raiden \o/
JUDYDANNY
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JUDYDANNY
Gratz ボンドtasuke and Raiden ヾ(๑>◡<)ﾉ"
SKSalt
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SKSalt
Congrats tasuke and Raiden ヽ(=´▽`=)ﾉ
Nwolf
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Nwolf
Weff weff


\:D/
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
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OnosakiHito
02.10.2015 - Added Raiden and tasuke912 into the BNG!
Akiyama Mizuki
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Akiyama Mizuki
oh my goodness tasuke! Raiden! that's a surprise
Bara-
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Bara-
RAIDEN
HOORAY!
Raiden
osu! Alumni
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Raiden
Thanks! Will do my best
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Surono
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Surono
dem sir son, gratz!1! do best of this two sir :D
SpectorDG
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SpectorDG
Congratz tasuke&Raiden :3
-Sh1n1-
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-Sh1n1-
Gratz Raiden and Tasuke *-*/
Aldwych
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Aldwych
Gratz you 2 :D
Nwolf
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Nwolf
\:D/
Senritsu
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Senritsu
Gratz Raiden you finally made it~~
And also tasuke whom i never expected to, congrats!
AlyNight
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AlyNight
Gratz to tasuke and raiden~~
Volta
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Volta
woah.
congratz!
-Sh1n1-
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-Sh1n1-
Mmm. Why there isn't a list of elitte mappers of taiko?
Bara-
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Bara-
MMzz and Firce right?
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
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OnosakiHito
Why should there be one? This thread only list those who have (or had) to do with the BSS system. So the QAT and BNG.
-Sh1n1-
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-Sh1n1-

OnosakiHito wrote:

Why should there be one? This thread only list those who have (or had) to do with the BSS system. So the QAT and BNG.
Ohh really xD sorry for my bakaness lol, It was an opinion u.u






:3
Raiden
osu! Alumni
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Raiden
You probably have seen this already, but in case you have not, I'll leave it here:

https://twitter.com/Loctav/status/677902572162842624

Cheers to anyone willing to join us and bring Taiko forward :D
-Sh1n1-
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-Sh1n1-
I'll do my best this year :3 become BN is one of my goals
xtrem3x
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xtrem3x

-Sh1n1- wrote:

I'll do my best this year :3 become BN is one of my goals
Niko-nyan
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Niko-nyan

-Sh1n1- wrote:

I'll do my best this year :3 become BN is one of my goals
snz
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snz

-Sh1n1- wrote:

I'll do my best this year :3 become BN is one of my goals
For Me Become Of QAT It's My Dreams
Raiden
osu! Alumni
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Raiden
t/407513

APPLY NOW ASDAFSAFADSASDA
Aldwych
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Aldwych
olala
Bara-
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Bara-
Good luck everyone!
Senritsu
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Senritsu
Congratulations newyams for the promotion \ o /
SKSalt
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SKSalt
congrats newyams ;)

btw only 1 person? ;_;
tasuke912
Former osu!taiko Champion: 2018
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tasuke912
Congratulations and welcome!
Nwolf
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Nwolf
hiiiii
Jerry
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Jerry
Congrats newyams! ╭( ･ㅂ･)و
Aldwych
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Aldwych
gratz! :>
Volta
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Volta
gratz newyams!
Surono
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Surono
nax yim yam XD

this unexpected..
yeah you really nice, newyams! Grats!
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
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OnosakiHito
24.01.2016 - Added newyams99 into the BNG. Congratulations!
snz
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snz
Gratz Newyams99!

late
-Sh1n1-
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-Sh1n1-
Gratz Newyams99 *-*/
Raiden
osu! Alumni
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Raiden
soon to be updateddddddddddd
Surono
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Surono
please show up soon with large number,.
PatZar
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PatZar
prophecy will be bn
Prophecy
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Prophecy

PatZar wrote:

prophecy will be bn
this chance is not for me.

;w; I want too , anyway, Patzar will be bn soon

Actually my modding skill can improve lot. I expected it's failed.
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Surono
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Surono
Genocide was fossilized
Skylish
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Skylish
Actually I will be stalking to the upcoming BNs :?

Boys you know what to do arh?
Stefan
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Stefan

Skylish wrote:

Actually I will be stalking to the upcoming BNs :?

Boys you know what to do arh?
Same here, I am actually loaded with maps I want to push as soon I have more options than two BNs in total.
Underforest
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Underforest
I'm waiting for new BNs, gl everyone
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
Sorry for kind of ruining your party, but please have some consideration for the new guys (in case they manage to pass the test), we wouldn't want them to burn out within the first weeks, would we?
Yuzeyun
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Yuzeyun
What Dake said. If you burn any single new-coming BN I will be chasing you with a crowbar to shove it up your arse. Be careful ;)
Nwolf
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Nwolf
to possible new BNs: Just add everybody who sends you a request in the first 72 hours of your BNship to a 1 month black list

easy B)






*ends up on black list*
puxtu
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puxtu
Welcome to bng nwolf!
PatZar
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PatZar
" (in case they manage to pass the test) "
who are they?
Surono
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Surono

PatZar wrote:

" (in case they manage to pass the test) "
who are they?
you dont, dem ask >:C

btw, how theyre can be sure pass the test? where is had big score, A or B section? eww test map rip :|
Raiden
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Raiden
You'll probably be sent a PM with your results. Then it's up to you to reveal them or keep them in secret.
PatZar
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PatZar

Raiden wrote:

You'll probably be sent a PM with your results. Then it's up to you to reveal them or keep them in secret.
when?, i don't recieved any messages
Nwolf
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Nwolf
when they are done evaluating the tests...
Surono
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Surono
until date changed, 22 > 23

ok soon, and then cry/try for eternity
Skylish
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Skylish

Surono wrote:

until date changed, 22 > 23

ok soon, and then cry/try for eternity
dem sir, best wishes here :D

and start stalking from now on
OnosakiHito
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OnosakiHito
Welcome Nwolf, Okorin and Volta to the (Taiko) BNs!
Raiden
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Raiden
Welcome!!!
Nardoxyribonucleic
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Nardoxyribonucleic
Welcome Volta, Okorin and welcome back Nwolf :3
Nwolf
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woof
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