Amianki wrote:

I'm like 90% sure he's fishing for PRs with this massclaim sounds BS, since there's very close to no way this will be better info for town than scum.

Amianki wrote:

I really really wish 80% of the playerlist hadn't already claimed sounds. This is really big info for scum to have and we've gotten basically fuck all from it.

Amianki wrote:

The massclaim was terrible and sLaiNi better have a really good reason for suggesting it if he is town. Until he does, I'm keeping my vote on him until either he dies or I die.

Drezi wrote:

also we can make Jess roleclaim, I'd be more than happy to have her sorted by an NK.

Amianki wrote:

1. Getting claims from scummy players when they're close to a lynch is standard and I can see town wanting scum to sort out Jess for town once and for all.

2. sLaiNi literally said nothing to counter my assertions and the push onto Drezi is a sidestep to deflect pressure.

Yeah, this is a scum slot.

sLaiNi wrote:

I'm like 90% sure he's fishing for PRs with this massclaim sounds BS, since there's very close to no way this will be better info for town than scum.

Zexion wrote:

Also should we claim what we heard on night? Honest question here e_e, I'm kinda confused about what I heard.

Amianki wrote:

PEdit: yeah

Amianki wrote:

2. sLaiNi literally said nothing to counter my assertions and the push onto Drezi is a sidestep to deflect pressure.

Amianki wrote:

Yeah, because it's perfectly valid to go for a lynch on someone and see if it's worthwhile to make scum sort them or not.

sLaiNi wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

I'm like 90% sure he's fishing for PRs with this massclaim sounds BS, since there's very close to no way this will be better info for town than scum.

Also you state that getting soundclaims out of people is PRfishing and that it wouldn't help town as much as it would help scum?

Let's make a short time travel there to start of Day2:

Zexion wrote:

Also should we claim what we heard on night? Honest question here e_e, I'm kinda confused about what I heard.

Amianki wrote:

PEdit: yeah

Right before claiming what she heard.

sLaiNi wrote:

Amianki wrote:

Yeah, because it's perfectly valid to go for a lynch on someone and see if it's worthwhile to make scum sort them or not.

Also how can you know that scum would "sort them out". Actually that would only work if someone knows 100% that Jess is town, and the only ones that can know that are scum.

Haneii wrote:

@Setsuen, why do you think you haven't been NK yet?

Amianki wrote:

1. Getting claims from scummy players when they're close to a lynch is standard and I can see town wanting scum to sort out Jess for town once and for all.

2. sLaiNi literally said nothing to counter my assertions and the push onto Drezi is a sidestep to deflect pressure.

Yeah, this is a scum slot.

Ace Timing wrote:

Nice to know there are more day specific double voters.

Setsuen wrote:

Haneii wrote:

@Setsuen, why do you think you haven't been NK yet?

Scums are continuing the tradition of keeping me alive no matter what unless I claimed some important town PR like doctor which then I die N1.

Amianki wrote:

1. Getting claims from scummy players when they're close to a lynch is standard and I can see town wanting scum to sort out Jess for town once and for all.

2. sLaiNi literally said nothing to counter my assertions and the push onto Drezi is a sidestep to deflect pressure.

Yeah, this is a scum slot.

One of my post literally listed the possible scum tea. We lynch one scum it's probably GG. End of story.

Ace Timing wrote:

Nice to know there are more day specific double voters.

Which means there is probably one scum among them amiright?

Haneii wrote:

She claimed vanilla town.

Haneii wrote:

@Ace & slaini: Ready to vote?

sLaiNi wrote:

How do you come to such an assumption?

Ace Timing wrote:

Not necessarily, I am just stating that his assumption is reasonable. If you believe it to be correct, by all means do so.

notscience wrote:

Chugga chugga chugga chugga

WOO WOOOOOOOO

Haneii wrote:

Off topic: Nuuuu, one of you should be clownpiece (or at least different form/hair colour).

notscience wrote:

because she was pushing Jess.

Which I've said already.

-[Jess]- wrote:

hello.

reading now,post later

notscience wrote:

I, in all honesty, did not read any of your posts of the parts of the game I have read.

I ultimately replaced in to play with pie (who died).

Which, also begs the question how drezi knows about the dynamic between me and pie.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Hmm also, Jess, could we please hear what you heard? According to a post earlier, you're a VT, so you couldn't have done any action, so you must've heard sounds, right?

Haneii wrote:

In the case of zexion, it came down to activity. With notscience replacing in, pie would/should have be null reading the slot. I guess what I'm trying to say is if NS is scum, he'd shouldn't have felt threatened by Pie.

Amianki wrote:

People lying about hearing or not hearing anything is NULL because town have just as much reason to lie about it as scum. The difference is scum will immediately be able to tell if someone's a town PR or not.

-[Jess]- wrote:

plz i just a VT

Setsuen wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

Also, in case that Drezi is scum, she tried to scumpaint Zexion to give her Partner (Jess) free space after Zexion gets lycnhed, so they would have 2 scums without neighbours.

Then an assumption could be Setsuen being scum, the kill pieguy first (as he was rather townread and MB was close to getting lynched anyway) and then, next night they wanted to kill MB, so Setsuen would also be free. So basically after the next day they would be completely undetectable.

Except I wouldn't kill people who would townread me seeing that if I was indeed invader, there is a high chance that I owuld be the last one to be lynched therefore not killing whoever town read me would have been the way to go. You obv haven't played enough epicmafia sandbox lobby to know that mafia usually kill people who voted them.

Drezi wrote:

This doesn't even make sense. What I said is I'd be happy if she were NK-d, because obviously I don't particularly enjoy having her in the game, and with people pushing for her lynch, if she's town, her getting NK-d due to a claim would be way better than getting mislynched or distracting town all the time.

Also notsci claimed hearing noises from her, and she claimed VT, so if notsci isn't lying it means someone must have targeted her last night if she's town, and there's a fair chance that we'll be able to verify that at some point.

Setsuen wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

How do you come to such an assumption?

What Ace said. The chances of double voters who are ALL town are the same as there being another town miller in game other than me AFTER I claimed.

Setsuen wrote:

I STILL SAY SLANI+ZEXION(NOTSCIENCE)+maybe more people scum team OR DREZI+RB+maybe more people scum team.
Pick your side now. Notscience OR Jess.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Hmm also, Jess, could we please hear what you heard? According to a post earlier, you're a VT, so you couldn't have done any action, so you must've heard sounds, right?

Raging Bull wrote:

@Haneii, I still think Slaini is scum but no one wants to vote him. I don't really like the fast wagon on Jess by NS, but I can't see NS doing something so rash unless he knows something. I think the longer Jess is alive later, it would be more troublesome.

Amianki wrote:

Bull.
Shit.

You don't need claims from everyone in order to get a counterclaim for a single action. You're pulling excuses out of your ass.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

@everyone: what's with suddenly taking almost all pressure off Zexion/ns? Unless literally the only reason you were voting them was because they were getting a replacement and you didn't know if they'd find one, but that seems ridiculous.

Haneii wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

@everyone: what's with suddenly taking almost all pressure off Zexion/ns? Unless literally the only reason you were voting them was because they were getting a replacement and you didn't know if they'd find one, but that seems ridiculous.

Pretty much. I don't think it's ridiculous, but okay.

Who would you like to vote for today?

-[Jess]- wrote:

Post after school

-[Jess]- wrote:

L-1 than orz

notscience wrote:

I doubt that any protective targetted her.

We know it wasnt a killing action or she'd be dead.

We already had an investigative flip, I highly doubt there are more than one.

So.

sLaiNi wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

@Haneii, I still think Slaini is scum but no one wants to vote him. I don't really like the fast wagon on Jess by NS, but I can't see NS doing something so rash unless he knows something. I think the longer Jess is alive later, it would be more troublesome.

I already stated that I was searching for counterclaims on sounds, after sounds were heard on Jess.

sLaiNi wrote:

@Ace I got to the most obvious conclusion and that's exactly what you posted. Either way someone wouldve started the massclaim and tbh I didn't get as much as I hoped from it.

sLaiNi wrote:

You couldn't have created your conclusion list above without the knowledge of all sounds that happened.

Ace Timing wrote:

sLaiNi wrote:

You couldn't have created your conclusion list above without the knowledge of all sounds that happened.

I only needed one. And one if the conclusions acknowledges the case of that sound being false.

sLaiNi wrote:

So please tell me how a single other soundclaim could confirm the sounds being real, if the other person next to Jess is dead?

Ace Timing wrote:

In this scenario I only needed one sound. Presenting another scenario will prove nothing.

Sakura wrote:

~Night 2~
- The Register -
Current Housing
[Zexion]
[-[Jess]-]
[-VACANT-]

All Night actions are due within 24 hours of this post

Raging Bull wrote:

@Haneii, I still think Slaini is scum but no one wants to vote him. I don't really like the fast wagon on Jess by NS, but I can't see NS doing something so rash unless he knows something. I think the longer Jess is alive later, it would be more troublesome.

Ace Timing wrote:

Pretty sure the zex wagon was just an info lynch as opposed to the alternative policy lynch on Jess.

Setsuen wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

@Haneii, I still think Slaini is scum but no one wants to vote him. I don't really like the fast wagon on Jess by NS, but I can't see NS doing something so rash unless he knows something. I think the longer Jess is alive later, it would be more troublesome.

slani defended Zexion who was replaced by NS. How come you're not that suspicious of NS as compared to slani?

Ace Timing wrote:

Pretty sure the zex wagon was just an info lynch as opposed to the alternative policy lynch on Jess.

I already stated that he was lurking hard. That is reason enough to policy him for both info and the fact that he has a high chance of flipping scum.


Also you're dreaming if you think any possible doc would be on Jess. They WOULD HAVE BEEN ON PIEGUY.
NS+Slani
or Jess+RB+Drezi
Right now I am leaning towards NS+Slani scumteam POSSIBLY with Amianki FOR VERY OBV REASON CALLED LURKING.

Ace Timing wrote:

And how does the slot below jess being dead relate in any way to your massclaim attempt? Your massclaim won't make up for the lack of sound info from that slot at all.

Ace Timing wrote:

In this scenario I only needed one sound [to have a proven soundclaim]. Presenting another scenario will prove nothing.