2015-09-22 20:59 Gray Veyron: Can I IRC mod? lol
2015-09-22 20:59 Bonsai: oh yeah ofc ^^
2015-09-22 21:00 Gray Veyron: Well ya I really need to qualify sth, it's been a month I haven't icon heart on a map lmao.
2015-09-22 21:00 Gray Veyron: So, shall we start with normal? :3
2015-09-22 21:00 Bonsai: oh lol
2015-09-22 21:00 Bonsai: yup
2015-09-22 21:00 Gray Veyron: okayy
2015-09-22 21:00 Gray Veyron: Let's see...
2015-09-22 21:01 Gray Veyron: In general, the map looks pretty good~
2015-09-22 21:01 Gray Veyron: But I'm worried about the timing..
2015-09-22 21:01 Gray Veyron: Is it correct? Did you confirmed it with an expert timer?
2015-09-22 21:01 Bonsai: oh no pishifat checked it
2015-09-22 21:02 Gray Veyron: Oh, okay :)
2015-09-22 21:02 Gray Veyron: QATs love checking the map's timing
2015-09-22 21:02 Gray Veyron: so there might be a chance to dq lmao
2015-09-22 21:03 Gray Veyron: Let's not think about it anyway ;p
2015-09-22 21:03 Bonsai: he initially said it's as good as it can get with timing points, and even did some bpm-fixing to the mp3 twice
2015-09-22 21:03 Bonsai: timing live performances is kinda a hobby of mine lol
2015-09-22 21:03 Bonsai: lol
2015-09-22 21:03 Bonsai: #blamepishi if it happens
2015-09-22 21:04 Gray Veyron: nonono xD Hopefully would be fine enough
2015-09-22 21:05 Gray Veyron: first mod~ 00:17:656 (2) - You could just move this circle somewhere front of the previous slider
2015-09-22 21:05 Gray Veyron: for a desirable flow over the player's cursor movement,
2015-09-22 21:05 Gray Veyron: [http://puu.sh/kkiUv/7ee0fa5118.jpg sth like this e.g.]
2015-09-22 21:05 Gray Veyron: 00:19:145 (5) - This might be the same, but it's up to you ;p
2015-09-22 21:06 Gray Veyron: 00:27:320 (4) You added a finish on the other diffs, but not here looool
2015-09-22 21:07 Gray Veyron: bad link
2015-09-22 21:07 Gray Veyron: BAD
2015-09-22 21:08 Bonsai: lol did i put all three additions there in the other diffs lol
2015-09-22 21:08 Bonsai: still thinking about the first two things, not really a fan of it : \
2015-09-22 21:08 Gray Veyron: Ahh, okay then
2015-09-22 21:08 Gray Veyron: done?
2015-09-22 21:08 Bonsai: lol whatever i did there, i'll stick with just finish
2015-09-22 21:09 Bonsai: uh the hitsound? yeah
2015-09-22 21:09 Gray Veyron: okayy lmao
2015-09-22 21:09 Gray Veyron: 00:33:355 (3,4) - Pretty minor, but the spacing looks a little away by 0.04x idk
2015-09-22 21:10 Gray Veyron: idk about you, I might think you're trying to do a symmetry here or w/e
2015-09-22 21:10 Bonsai: too far away or not enough away? ^^
2015-09-22 21:10 Bonsai: nah not really lol
2015-09-22 21:10 Gray Veyron: huh?
2015-09-22 21:10 Gray Veyron: you don't use grid snap? lol
2015-09-22 21:10 Gray Veyron: okay, my mistake
2015-09-22 21:11 Bonsai: uuuh no o:
2015-09-22 21:11 Bonsai: oooh i see what you mean
2015-09-22 21:11 Gray Veyron: okay, uhh fixed?
2015-09-22 21:12 Gray Veyron: It just takes seconds ;p
2015-09-22 21:12 Bonsai: k fixed it
2015-09-22 21:12 Gray Veyron: Let's see more issues...
2015-09-22 21:12 Gray Veyron: give me time
2015-09-22 21:13 Gray Veyron: 00:55:029 (4,5,1) - You could've done sth more interested here, e.g. (4)'s slider tail, circle (5), and (1)'s head, that flowing is quite linear.
2015-09-22 21:13 Gray Veyron: So how about moving (5) somewhere? or repositioning slider (4)?
2015-09-22 21:13 Gray Veyron: Basically, the FLOW is linear
2015-09-22 21:13 Gray Veyron: not because of that straight slider btw
2015-09-22 21:13 Bonsai: mhm i understand, lemme see
2015-09-22 21:14 Gray Veyron: Sorry If I TALK too much lol
2015-09-22 21:14 Gray Veyron: just putting things in details xD
2015-09-22 21:14 Bonsai: nono lol
2015-09-22 21:14 Bonsai: [http://puu.sh/kkn3j/c0e0da9bda.jpg this okay?]
2015-09-22 21:15 Gray Veyron: Oh, that blanket looks gorgeous!
2015-09-22 21:15 Gray Veyron: Okay, you may want to try that :D
2015-09-22 21:15 Bonsai: hehe
2015-09-22 21:16 Gray Veyron: Well, it seems everything is fine here!
2015-09-22 21:16 Gray Veyron: Shall we move to Advanced diff?
2015-09-22 21:16 Bonsai: so you're okay with me not changing the frist two things? then yes ^^
2015-09-22 21:16 Gray Veyron: Nah, it's your map anyway ;p
2015-09-22 21:17 Gray Veyron: you can do w/e you want with it
2015-09-22 21:17 Gray Veyron: Okayy so
2015-09-22 21:17 Gray Veyron: 00:07:160 (5,1) - Idk, but this spacing supposed to be 1.2x o_o not kinda like 1.25x...
2015-09-22 21:17 Gray Veyron: Well, you previously used 1.2x spacing, right?
2015-09-22 21:18 Bonsai: o ok ^^ did the second one, first one is kinda not possible without ruining directions of sliders etc
2015-09-22 21:18 Bonsai: moving on! :D
2015-09-22 21:18 Bonsai: well i vary a bit, because of slider leniency, since the slider is almost exactly flowing into the seoncd one
2015-09-22 21:19 Gray Veyron: "exactly"?
2015-09-22 21:19 Gray Veyron: It doesn't look like that to me :/
2015-09-22 21:19 Bonsai: but i guess i reduce it a bit
2015-09-22 21:19 Gray Veyron: but nyeh, anyways
2015-09-22 21:19 Gray Veyron: 00:18:772 (5,6,7) - I probably think this part lacks some movements for the cursor to stay active, instead of staying and clicking.
2015-09-22 21:19 Gray Veyron: So, you may want to unstack circle (5) only and move it near x:292|y:106 for that reason.
2015-09-22 21:20 Gray Veyron: ehh idk, it's just that the vocals ended itself there
2015-09-22 21:20 Bonsai: oh yeah done, did a nice triangle
2015-09-22 21:20 Gray Veyron: triangles <3
2015-09-22 21:21 Gray Veyron: okay, finding more...
2015-09-22 21:22 Gray Veyron: 00:31:484 (9,10,1) - I prefer (10) stacks on slider (1)'s head, not circle (9).
2015-09-22 21:22 Gray Veyron: Basically, for the upcoming new track.
2015-09-22 21:22 Gray Veyron: tl:dr: Strong beat
2015-09-22 21:23 Bonsai: wait sry, for the previous thing, do you think [http://puu.sh/kknwy/90855ac0d9.jpg this] is ok? jsut stacking one note there seems weird to me
2015-09-22 21:23 Bonsai: eehh when i stack 10 on 1 1 loses emphasis, doesn't it?
2015-09-22 21:23 Bonsai: cause as it is you have to move to get to the 1
2015-09-22 21:24 Gray Veyron: Well, kinda little
2015-09-22 21:24 Gray Veyron: But it makes an equal emphasis between the song and this
2015-09-22 21:24 Gray Veyron: So yeah, balancing is important ;p'
2015-09-22 21:25 Bonsai: uhhh i don't understand that lol
2015-09-22 21:25 Gray Veyron: like, one strong beat, one circle/sliderhead placed on upbeat
2015-09-22 21:25 Gray Veyron: which makes the rhythm more sensitive
2015-09-22 21:26 Bonsai: uh yeah i know, but that's the case anyways
2015-09-22 21:26 Gray Veyron: ...instead of landing sliderends on the start of kiai ;_;
2015-09-22 21:26 Bonsai: the question is just what to stack right?
2015-09-22 21:26 Gray Veyron: uhh yeah, stack
2015-09-22 21:27 Bonsai: wut yeah, where did i put a sliderend on start of kiai
2015-09-22 21:27 Gray Veyron: nahh, I was just saying ;p
2015-09-22 21:27 Gray Veyron: anyways, let's move on
2015-09-22 21:28 Bonsai: yeah ^^
2015-09-22 21:29 Bonsai: (just fyi i did the [http://puu.sh/kknHb/cf1b774162.jpg same thing] with that previous point now, pls don't hurt me)
2015-09-22 21:29 Gray Veyron: I'm okay, that...
2015-09-22 21:29 Gray Veyron: I'm not sure, but hopefully would look better now
2015-09-22 21:30 Bonsai: yup
2015-09-22 21:30 Gray Veyron: 00:37:845 (1,3) - Well, manual stacking doesn't fit here, so It's best you fully stack them up.
2015-09-22 21:30 Gray Veyron: Perhaps there's another option, It's splitting them to avoid "overlap".
2015-09-22 21:30 Gray Veyron: Don't forget checking the spacing too!!
2015-09-22 21:30 Bonsai: uh i originally auto-stacked them and pishi said it didn't work so i should do it like this
2015-09-22 21:31 Gray Veyron: okay so...
2015-09-22 21:31 Gray Veyron: did you enable the stacking in the View option, then?
2015-09-22 21:31 Bonsai: yup
2015-09-22 21:31 Bonsai: oh i think it was off a bit
2015-09-22 21:32 Bonsai: did you mean that
2015-09-22 21:32 Gray Veyron: yeah
2015-09-22 21:32 Bonsai: yeah now it's also the same spacing
2015-09-22 21:32 Bonsai: yey
2015-09-22 21:32 Gray Veyron: Well, if it gets dq'd for that issue... #blamepishi
2015-09-22 21:33 Bonsai: lol
2015-09-22 21:33 Gray Veyron: 00:49:038 (5,1) - This would be optional; You might wanna make a blanket for aesthetic patterns in order to make your map cleaner
2015-09-22 21:34 Gray Veyron: ....and neat
2015-09-22 21:34 Gray Veyron: Unless you want to be a tough guy,
2015-09-22 21:34 Gray Veyron: heedless to aesthetics.
2015-09-22 21:34 Gray Veyron: It's your decision btw ;p
2015-09-22 21:34 Bonsai: well blanketing it this close is kinda impossible
2015-09-22 21:35 Gray Veyron: So it's a "no" then?
2015-09-22 21:35 Bonsai: bc then it looks like [http://puu.sh/kkoj4/badab0d0f3.jpg this] and that's kinda ugly too
2015-09-22 21:35 Bonsai: yeah no
2015-09-22 21:36 Gray Veyron: But I've done that on one of my ranked maps loooooooool
2015-09-22 21:36 Gray Veyron: but anyways xDD
2015-09-22 21:36 Bonsai: o
2015-09-22 21:36 Gray Veyron: It's up to you~
2015-09-22 21:36 Bonsai: ok nvm i'll do it then lol
2015-09-22 21:36 Gray Veyron: NONONONO
2015-09-22 21:36 Gray Veyron: It's fine, It's fine
2015-09-22 21:36 Bonsai: lol ok
2015-09-22 21:37 Gray Veyron: You change your mind so fast wow
2015-09-22 21:37 Bonsai: lol
2015-09-22 21:37 Gray Veyron: 00:51:285 (4) - Why not moving this circle to the right for a smoother flow? Somewhere x:470|y:150 or nearby.
2015-09-22 21:37 Gray Veyron: yes, SMOOTHER flow
2015-09-22 21:38 Gray Veyron: So, the player's cursor plays SMOOTHER <3
2015-09-22 21:38 Gray Veyron: And be careful with the next circle's spacing ;p
2015-09-22 21:39 Bonsai: when there's no rational reason for one solution to be better i'm always extremely indecisive, bad in rl lol
2015-09-22 21:39 Bonsai: bc of pattern
2015-09-22 21:39 Bonsai: http://puu.sh/kkouP/057b2e6e96.jpg
2015-09-22 21:39 Gray Veyron: A parallel?
2015-09-22 21:39 Gray Veyron: That doesn't seem right... isn't?
2015-09-22 21:39 Bonsai: yeah
2015-09-22 21:39 Gray Veyron: Or is it just me?
2015-09-22 21:40 Gray Veyron: lolllll k
2015-09-22 21:40 Bonsai: should be okay
2015-09-22 21:40 Gray Veyron: 00:57:843 (6,7,8) - Kinda the same as before, for stacking. Circle (7) stacks on (8) ble
2015-09-22 21:40 Bonsai: not more than 1pixel of lol
2015-09-22 21:40 Gray Veyron: triangles idk w/e lmao
2015-09-22 21:41 Bonsai: nah i'll stay consistent with that
2015-09-22 21:41 Gray Veyron: ... I guess that's all I found
2015-09-22 21:41 Bonsai: \o/
2015-09-22 21:42 Gray Veyron: It's quite nice, but sorry if I was picky on stackings and placements lol
2015-09-22 21:42 Bonsai: nah no problem
2015-09-22 21:42 Gray Veyron: Finally, let's go to the last and HARD diff!
2015-09-22 21:43 Bonsai: i apreciate everything that has reasoning :D
2015-09-22 21:43 Bonsai: WHOO
2015-09-22 21:43 Gray Veyron: choo chooooooo
2015-09-22 21:44 Gray Veyron: okaaaay
2015-09-22 21:44 Gray Veyron: So, 00:25:834 (1,3) - You think this overlap is fine? Well, to me It's not :/
2015-09-22 21:44 Gray Veyron: It's just- I can't tell
2015-09-22 21:44 Gray Veyron: It seems pretty odd imo
2015-09-22 21:45 Gray Veyron: Why not moving it down at least?
2015-09-22 21:45 Bonsai: [http://puu.sh/kkoVE/e31de40ced.jpg this better?]
2015-09-22 21:45 Gray Veyron: hmm idk
2015-09-22 21:45 Bonsai: if i want to avoid it completely it gets like x1,7
2015-09-22 21:46 Gray Veyron: but you have the DS tool, you can still stick with it...
2015-09-22 21:46 Gray Veyron: I really prefer splitting it
2015-09-22 21:46 Bonsai: yeah, the screen i posted is the best i can get with 1,5
2015-09-22 21:46 Gray Veyron: :/
2015-09-22 21:47 Gray Veyron: but anyways, up to you~~~
2015-09-22 21:47 Bonsai: yeah I'll let it be
2015-09-22 21:48 Gray Veyron: uhhhh
2015-09-22 21:48 Gray Veyron: Looks pretty good!
2015-09-22 21:48 Gray Veyron: I like those 2x spacing jumps!
2015-09-22 21:49 Gray Veyron: Quite consistent~ great diff!
2015-09-22 21:50 Bonsai: yey thx :D
