I'm seriously disappointed with your play if you're town.
That's nice, but to be honest I don't really care how disappointed you are with me. Now answer the god damn question. We need to come to an agreement here, and chances are quite a few people won't get their first choice. Now if we can please hear your second scummiest read in an attempt to try to compromise, so we don't end up with a no lynch.Drezi wrote:
I'm seriously disappointed with your play if you're town.
Frostings wrote:
MB was never actually a scumread, I just voted him and wanted people to follow suit just to see how he would respond to pressure. Nobody bothered because I didn't push it at all, since I didn't really care too much about it at that pointRaging Bull wrote:
@frosting, you said scum spread their votes around, but your two scum reads were both voting for you. So how is that spread around? If you think mb is no longer scum, why dont you vote next read? Also you didnt answer my question. Who do you think is scum as you mentioned scum intentionally spread their votes around.
I put him in my null-scum list just because I was voting for him. I didn't want put him on the null-list because it would start an entire discussion on why I was voting for a null-read instead of a null-scum-read blah blahRaging Bull wrote:
Frosting, didnt you out mb on your null scum list though? So obviously you voted him since you thought he may be scum.
"valued" isn't really the right word. I thought MB's reaction would be more interesting or useful for meFrostings wrote:
It was in part to see if anyone else bothered to sheep, but mostly because I valued MB's reaction more
This is fine.Drezi wrote:
btw I'll be V/LA aug. 22-26 you can replace me if it's too much
To discuss the setup in d2 makes it sound like you know something we dont yet.Navizel wrote:
post something other than something along these lines.I may or may not know something there. What do you mean?Raging Bull wrote:
I feel like Navizel knows something here. p/4427478
Hmm.. I don't really think I've seen that on his ISO as you describe it. While yes, some posts are totally useless, he's been posting actual content. He did put pressure on you however. I don't totally buy this explanation, looks like you desperatly trying to pin the blame on Frostings.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Yeah I did:- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Oh actually, I think I know exactly why my gut gives me a bad feeling on Frostings. He is literally not putting forward anything to this game. His posts, as few as they are, mostly consist of "Wow town are playing bad this game" "oh we should put more pressure on people via voting", and then not actually contributing any more, not putting any pressure on anyone, through voting or otherwise, and he's not helping town in any way, he's just stating we're playing badly. Oh also "We should start pressuring the lurkers" and then once again doing nothing about the lurkers.
I'm already seeing what will happen in Night 1..Drezi wrote:
btw I'll be V/LA aug. 22-26 you can replace me if it's too much
Navizel wrote:
post something other than something along these lines.I may or may not know something there. What do you mean?Raging Bull wrote:
I feel like Navizel knows something here. p/4427478
I think that was me wanting to speculate setup and roles on D2 after N1 shenanigans.Raging Bull wrote:
To discuss the setup in d2 makes it sound like you know something we dont yet.
You think scum know about how the tree setup will work (which is the discussion ami and navi were referring to. ie: pg 7)? Why do you think scum would have more information besides their roles and everyone's alignment?Raging Bull wrote:
To discuss the setup in d2 makes it sound like you know something we dont yet.
Oh, that's a good point. Jess' vote is literally still an RVS one.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Also just gonna say here, this wasn't Jess that voted, and in fact, I'm pretty sure this vote is from RVS and because of how inactive fartownik was, the vote never changed.
Honestly, I don't even know right now. I haven't really paid much attention to scumhunting so far. SlaiNi makes a really good argument against Amianki, though Zexion does have a point regarding Amianki's 'usual' town play (though it's also his usual scumplay as well)- Magic Bomb - wrote:
So Frostings, can we have your #1 and #2 scumreads? You kinda hinted at them during your comments earlier on but they were based purely on VCA, I think, and I doubt your whole reads are based on that.
Frostings is on there 3 times, just saying. (Also remove Jess from RB, seeing as that was RVS by fartownik).Haneii wrote:
This is based on current votes and players top 2 scum reads (if you haven't yet, choose your number #2 to lynch)
Frostings (3) - Magic bomb, Raging bull, amianki
Magic bomb (3) - Raging bull, zexion, Drezi
Raging bull (2) - Jess, Haneii
Amianki (2) - slaini, Navizel
Haneii (2) - Frostings, setsuen
Setsuen (2) - Frostings, Haneii
Navizel (1) - pieguy1372
Drezi (1) - Magic bomb
Pieguy1372 (1) - frostings
Ace timing (1) - Drezi
Doesn't change much, but several of you haven't given out their 2nd highest scum read.
Haneii wrote:
Frostings (3) - Magic bomb, Raging bull, amianki
Magic bomb (3) - Raging bull, zexion, Drezi
Amianki (3) - slaini, Navizel Forgot to note slaini's double vote if he were to vote ami
Raging bull (2) - Jess, Haneii
Haneii (2) - Frostings, setsuen
Setsuen (2) - Frostings, Haneii
Navizel (1) - pieguy1372
Drezi (1) - Magic bomb
Pieguy1372 (1) - frostings
Ace timing (1) - Drezi
Ah right kk that's fair enough. I'm gonna be going to sleep now, but Jess especially, can we hear your reads, I'm really interested to see what you think considering you haven't really said much (Mostly due to only just having replaced in).Haneii wrote:
frostings vote is pretty messed up. I realize that he has two versions of his scum list and isn't sure of either of them..
He comes up 3 times because setsuen and I tie for 2nd in one of his reads.
Jess stays because it's from the official vote count.
Because it does seem like he is hiding something. Whats your opinion on itHaneii wrote:
Raging Bull wrote:
I feel like Navizel knows something here. p/4427478
Why did you point this out?
I don't have one, but I do wonder why you have an opinion on it. Why does it matter to you if he's hiding something (what do you think he's hiding btw?). And again, why did you point it out to everyone else?Raging Bull wrote:
Because it does seem like he is hiding something. Whats your opinion on itHaneii wrote:
Why did you point this out?
Haneii wrote:
I don't have one, but I do wonder why you have an opinion on it. Why does it matter to you if he's hiding something (what do you think he's hiding btw?). And again, why did you point it out to everyone else?
Hahaha. No I won't be lynched even if role cop checks me.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Yeah, but then when they track it back to who originally started the push, based on not much logic, it'd be traced back to you and Setsuen, and tbh I think you'd be seen as a more likely lynch as Setsuen tomorrow, especially if town has a role cop.
so why do you join games if all you do then is NOT play?-[Jess]- wrote:
unvote
I am tried to read all the 1v1 and walls orz
okokDrezi wrote:
so why do you join games if all you do then is NOT play?
in your other game you say you enjoy people wanting to PL you, well THANK YOU we are enjoying having a useless slot in our games so much aswell.... NOT
Better hurry up then, deadline is in just over 12 hours.-[Jess]- wrote:
okokDrezi wrote:
so why do you join games if all you do then is NOT play?
in your other game you say you enjoy people wanting to PL you, well THANK YOU we are enjoying having a useless slot in our games so much aswell.... NOT
post read later
sureHaneii wrote:
Jess, look at sakura's last vote count. No one else is voting drezi, and the day is nearing an end.
Would you vote frostings?
Also I get the feeling we don't have much choice, idk if Frostings will check any time soon or whether it won't be until a few hours before deadline.Haneii wrote:
I'll be off now.
One more person should add their vote to frostings and another person should post their intent to hammer. I suggest you guys get a role claim well before the deadline. Do not leave this until the last couple of hours and rush it.
god this sheep.-[Jess]- wrote:
sureHaneii wrote:
Jess, look at sakura's last vote count. No one else is voting drezi, and the day is nearing an end.
Would you vote frostings?
unvote
vote:Frostings
Tbh, this isn't sheeping, this is just Jess, as annoying as it sounds, this is normal play for her.Raging Bull wrote:
god this sheep.-[Jess]- wrote:
Jess, look at sakura's last vote count. No one else is voting drezi, and the day is nearing an end.
Would you vote frostings?
sure
unvote
vote:Frostings
@ Setsuen, what do you have on Zexion besides very neutralposts?
Basically he pulled off what Sakura did in that stupid Madoka game where I neighbourised scum bc I trusted her. That and I already said that he is basically copying other people post now z.z pieguy reads on me and Haneii? Zexion said the same thing. Amianki's opportunistic? yep he repeated it.Raging Bull wrote:
[@ Setsuen, what do you have on Zexion besides very neutralposts?
?? This isn't even a sheep, she listed me and Frostings as null-scum and switched to the other one when Haneii told her it's more useful now. But you shouldn't expect much in the first place anyway.Raging Bull wrote:
god this sheep.-[Jess]- wrote:
sure
unvote
vote:Frostings
no I can still stop this mislynchDrezi wrote:
Frostings should claim either way.
Wanna at least try, or can't be bothered? How are we expected to work with anything you say? Or is there no backbone to any of your posts?-[Jess]- wrote:
Read,and don't ask me to explain.I am bad on explaining
Null-scum
Drezi
Frostings
so why am I suddenly so suspicious to you?Setsuen wrote:
as of this point Frosting is suspicious but Zexion gives off a bad vibe with his very VERY neutral posts.
Oh, here it is. Yeah, "much much later", I totally said thatSetsuen wrote:
that and Zexion is like Frosting. "Lets care about lurkers but decide not to prod anyone and if they still lurk we lynch them......... much much later"
Day2 = much much later apparentlyFrostings wrote:
If they continue to lurk, we just lynch them day2 for free scumflips
Yeah! I think I'm starting to scumread Raging Bull too! I remember he said something extremely vague that I can't seem to recall at the start of the day, so I want to stick with whatever that was. I don't want to have to bother explaining myself, because this is what I do every game, but trust me guys, I'm scumhunting too!Amianki wrote:
I'm getting weird vibes from Raging Bull, but can't pinpoint anything specific.
uhhhhhHaneii wrote:
Jess, look at sakura's last vote count. No one else is voting drezi, and the day is nearing an end.
Would you vote frostings?
You were generally null bc your post did not give off any bad vibe. But MB has nicely pointed that that you had done literally nothing about the lurkers. You asked for no prod or anything to boost activity. NOTHING. You were fine with how inactive D1 was going to last.Frostings wrote:
Just looks like a desperate soft-push, now that we're near the DL
Oh, here it is. Yeah, "much much later", I totally said that
Lynching someone because of inactivity Day1 should be a last resort imo, since it doesn't give us any informative results
I found Zexion to be more scummy than Frosting. End of story.Navizel wrote:
wut
if I'm tunneling someone it's Magic Bomb not you lol, I really don't like how you're making excuses and the out of place cautious tone (why?) here.Zexion wrote:
notice how Haneii also votes for Frostings without being that sure either, so maybe you're tunneling a bit here.
hmm. Isn't that the same as voting because we need a lynchDrezi wrote:
well shit, I don't think forcing through that Frostings lynch would do much good with most votes being almost completely unexplained or only because "we need a lynch"..
I thought we might be able to read Jess here based on noises etc. at least but she's gonna be useless anyway and might aswell just get her to claim and decide to PL depending on the claim, rather than a No Lynch... I'm not really seeing a legit wagon happening at this point.
pieguy1372 has been prodded!Drezi wrote:
prod pie please
Because I don't see that much of a difference between me an Haneii's reasons, and yet you only accused me at that point.Drezi wrote:
if I'm tunneling someone it's Magic Bomb not you lol, I really don't like how you're making excuses and the out of place cautious tone (why?) here.Zexion wrote:
notice how Haneii also votes for Frostings without being that sure either, so maybe you're tunneling a bit here.