Navizel wrote:

Frostings wrote:

^ this is highly based on VCA alone from my perspective that scum probably has the votes spread out on purpose

what about the non VCA then? It seems that you disregard everything and acted on the VCA.

Drezi wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

On the other hand I agree with this post a lot, judging him based on joke posts is not really a good idea, he's not contributed much at all, but at the same time, neither have a few other people in this game. Whilst this feels like an overreaction, I don't really get any feels that he is scum from this post, the way it's worded makes me feel like he is town.

It's not the post itself, it's the message behind the post which (as town) you would read into.

Yes I read you going "While this... I gotta admit that... On one hand this... on the other hand that... I'm being a nice guy to everyone"

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

you didn't want to try and make points against them because you thought that if you joined in and people actually followed

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Yeah, but then when they track it back to who originally started the push, based on not much logic, it'd be traced back to you and Setsuen, and tbh I think you'd be seen as a more likely lynch as Setsuen tomorrow, especially if town has a role cop.

Drezi wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

you didn't want to try and make points against them because you thought that if you joined in and people actually followed

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Yeah, but then when they track it back to who originally started the push, based on not much logic, it'd be traced back to you and Setsuen, and tbh I think you'd be seen as a more likely lynch as Setsuen tomorrow, especially if town has a role cop.

Yeah, so I was afraid to join the Haneii push, because I was afraid that people would trace it back to who originally started it, which isn't me. 10/10

Drezi wrote:

sLaiNi you too, if you got more to add, you seem pretty serious, and you only mentioned him being a lurker and not having contributed.

Amianki wrote:

I'm lurking because 90% of the game is just 1v1 arguments. It's pretty common knowledge how I feel about those.

Amianki wrote:

FTR, unless I'm spamming the shit out of the game for a long period of time (only ever do it as town), activity is dead null for me.

Amianki wrote:

Setsuen is town and people really need to stop being baited into 1v1s with him. It literally kills the game.

Amianki wrote:

I remember Frostings was scum for something I noticed early in the game before all that happened, so I'm sticking with it.

Amianki wrote:

There's no way in hell he's getting me as his strongest scumread off something that's basically irrelevant to anything that's happening. It doesn't happen. Ever.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Erm, as far as I can tell, the only person I was being a "nice guy" to here was Ace Timing, because I genuinely read his reaction as town

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Oh yeah of course, we'll end up lynching the confirmed miller (Assuming he's not fakeclaiming, which he'd given no real hints to at the time), because scum miller would make so much sense, right?

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Haneii wrote:

Okay, then let's compromise.

Who are your top 2 scum choices?

My top 2 choices are: Setsuen and RB

Can everyone else do it as well (just your top 2)? Lets see if theres a common lynch choice.

And Drezi, answer this. I'm you're #1 of course, but who's your #2?

Frostings wrote:

[*]Jess - Jess is ... Jess, her votes can almost be ignored for now, since they don't usually make sense

Drezi wrote:

I'm seriously disappointed with your play if you're town.

Frostings wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

@frosting, you said scum spread their votes around, but your two scum reads were both voting for you. So how is that spread around? If you think mb is no longer scum, why dont you vote next read? Also you didnt answer my question. Who do you think is scum as you mentioned scum intentionally spread their votes around.

MB was never actually a scumread, I just voted him and wanted people to follow suit just to see how he would respond to pressure. Nobody bothered because I didn't push it at all, since I didn't really care too much about it at that point

Raging Bull wrote:

Frosting, didnt you out mb on your null scum list though? So obviously you voted him since you thought he may be scum.

Frostings wrote:

It was in part to see if anyone else bothered to sheep, but mostly because I valued MB's reaction more

Drezi wrote:

btw I'll be V/LA aug. 22-26 you can replace me if it's too much

Navizel wrote:

post something other than something along these lines.

Raging Bull wrote:

I feel like Navizel knows something here. p/4427478

I may or may not know something there. What do you mean?

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Yeah I did:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Oh actually, I think I know exactly why my gut gives me a bad feeling on Frostings. He is literally not putting forward anything to this game. His posts, as few as they are, mostly consist of "Wow town are playing bad this game" "oh we should put more pressure on people via voting", and then not actually contributing any more, not putting any pressure on anyone, through voting or otherwise, and he's not helping town in any way, he's just stating we're playing badly. Oh also "We should start pressuring the lurkers" and then once again doing nothing about the lurkers.

Drezi wrote:

btw I'll be V/LA aug. 22-26 you can replace me if it's too much

Navizel wrote:

post something other than something along these lines.

Raging Bull wrote:

I feel like Navizel knows something here. p/4427478

I may or may not know something there. What do you mean?

Raging Bull wrote:

To discuss the setup in d2 makes it sound like you know something we dont yet.

Raging Bull wrote:

To discuss the setup in d2 makes it sound like you know something we dont yet.

Raging Bull wrote:

I feel like Navizel knows something here. p/4427478

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Also just gonna say here, this wasn't Jess that voted, and in fact, I'm pretty sure this vote is from RVS and because of how inactive fartownik was, the vote never changed.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

So Frostings, can we have your #1 and #2 scumreads? You kinda hinted at them during your comments earlier on but they were based purely on VCA, I think, and I doubt your whole reads are based on that.

Haneii wrote:

This is based on current votes and players top 2 scum reads (if you haven't yet, choose your number #2 to lynch)



Frostings (3) - Magic bomb, Raging bull, amianki
Magic bomb (3) - Raging bull, zexion, Drezi
Raging bull (2) - Jess, Haneii
Amianki (2) - slaini, Navizel
Haneii (2) - Frostings, setsuen
Setsuen (2) - Frostings, Haneii
Navizel (1) - pieguy1372
Drezi (1) - Magic bomb
Pieguy1372 (1) - frostings
Ace timing (1) - Drezi


Doesn't change much, but several of you haven't given out their 2nd highest scum read.

Haneii wrote:

Frostings (3) - Magic bomb, Raging bull, amianki
Magic bomb (3) - Raging bull, zexion, Drezi
Amianki (3) - slaini, Navizel Forgot to note slaini's double vote if he were to vote ami
Raging bull (2) - Jess, Haneii
Haneii (2) - Frostings, setsuen
Setsuen (2) - Frostings, Haneii
Navizel (1) - pieguy1372
Drezi (1) - Magic bomb
Pieguy1372 (1) - frostings
Ace timing (1) - Drezi

Haneii wrote:

frostings vote is pretty messed up. I realize that he has two versions of his scum list and isn't sure of either of them..
He comes up 3 times because setsuen and I tie for 2nd in one of his reads.

Jess stays because it's from the official vote count.

Haneii wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

I feel like Navizel knows something here. p/4427478

Why did you point this out?

Raging Bull wrote:

Haneii wrote:

Why did you point this out?

Because it does seem like he is hiding something. Whats your opinion on it

Haneii wrote:

I don't have one, but I do wonder why you have an opinion on it. Why does it matter to you if he's hiding something (what do you think he's hiding btw?). And again, why did you point it out to everyone else?

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Yeah, but then when they track it back to who originally started the push, based on not much logic, it'd be traced back to you and Setsuen, and tbh I think you'd be seen as a more likely lynch as Setsuen tomorrow, especially if town has a role cop.

-[Jess]- wrote:

unvote

I am tried to read all the 1v1 and walls orz

Drezi wrote:

so why do you join games if all you do then is NOT play?

in your other game you say you enjoy people wanting to PL you, well THANK YOU we are enjoying having a useless slot in our games so much aswell.... NOT

-[Jess]- wrote:

Drezi wrote:

so why do you join games if all you do then is NOT play?

in your other game you say you enjoy people wanting to PL you, well THANK YOU we are enjoying having a useless slot in our games so much aswell.... NOT

okok

post read later

Haneii wrote:

Jess, look at sakura's last vote count. No one else is voting drezi, and the day is nearing an end.

Would you vote frostings?

Haneii wrote:

I'll be off now.

One more person should add their vote to frostings and another person should post their intent to hammer. I suggest you guys get a role claim well before the deadline. Do not leave this until the last couple of hours and rush it.

-[Jess]- wrote:

Haneii wrote:

Jess, look at sakura's last vote count. No one else is voting drezi, and the day is nearing an end.

Would you vote frostings?

sure

unvote
vote:Frostings

Raging Bull wrote:

-[Jess]- wrote:

Jess, look at sakura's last vote count. No one else is voting drezi, and the day is nearing an end.

Would you vote frostings?
sure

unvote
vote:Frostings

god this sheep.

@ Setsuen, what do you have on Zexion besides very neutralposts?

Raging Bull wrote:

[@ Setsuen, what do you have on Zexion besides very neutralposts?

Raging Bull wrote:

-[Jess]- wrote:

sure

unvote
vote:Frostings

god this sheep.

Drezi wrote:

Frostings should claim either way.

-[Jess]- wrote:

Read,and don't ask me to explain.I am bad on explaining
Null-scum
Drezi
Frostings

Setsuen wrote:

as of this point Frosting is suspicious but Zexion gives off a bad vibe with his very VERY neutral posts.

Setsuen wrote:

that and Zexion is like Frosting. "Lets care about lurkers but decide not to prod anyone and if they still lurk we lynch them......... much much later"

Frostings wrote:

If they continue to lurk, we just lynch them day2 for free scumflips

Amianki wrote:

I'm getting weird vibes from Raging Bull, but can't pinpoint anything specific.

Haneii wrote:

Jess, look at sakura's last vote count. No one else is voting drezi, and the day is nearing an end.

Would you vote frostings?

Frostings wrote:

Just looks like a desperate soft-push, now that we're near the DL

Oh, here it is. Yeah, "much much later", I totally said that
Lynching someone because of inactivity Day1 should be a last resort imo, since it doesn't give us any informative results

Navizel wrote:

wut

Zexion wrote:

notice how Haneii also votes for Frostings without being that sure either, so maybe you're tunneling a bit here.

Drezi wrote:

well shit, I don't think forcing through that Frostings lynch would do much good with most votes being almost completely unexplained or only because "we need a lynch"..

I thought we might be able to read Jess here based on noises etc. at least but she's gonna be useless anyway and might aswell just get her to claim and decide to PL depending on the claim, rather than a No Lynch... I'm not really seeing a legit wagon happening at this point.