Hi
Drezi you forgot to respond to this.Drezi wrote:
Ace you forgot to answer this
Setsuen wrote:
Drezi is just getting way too suspicious bc she is literally purposely avoiding any interaction with Haneii.
Scum point for not saying that you are going to read through the entire 32page to get reads.-[Jess]- wrote:
Hi
I am too tired now.Setsuen wrote:
Scum point for not saying that you are going to read through the entire 32page to get reads.-[Jess]- wrote:
Hi
I don't think these two statements are remotely different as you're claiming they are, and I don't think him complaining about something Setsuen did all the time is indicative of an inconsistent read.Drezi wrote:
Except it's not what happened. First of all I had no need for "looking like I was doing something" in the first place, and he did not say "probably town", he said "I'm pretty sure he's town" which is a lot stronger, and following it with saying that the CONSTANT behavior of the person in question is kinda suspicious is off, because if you're ambivalent about someone, you don't say that you're "PRETTY SURE" they're town.
I don't think it was just one post? I thought there were a lot of posts in between (and there was also the post in between where he alluded to having a few null reads, which Setsuen was supposedly one of). correct me if I'm wrong.Drezi wrote:
Follow that up with your read changing to "YOU'RE OBVIOUS SCUM" after a single post (oh guess what right after Setsuen mentioned him being scum...) and for a reason that makes zero sense, and then proceed to backpedal and vote someone else later, then yeah you'll earn my vote.
it is not a "mafiascum trend" - scum need to fake scum hunting, and commenting on something that appears to be an inconsistency is something scum can easily comment on in order to look like they're doing something. this is the case because it's the kind of thing that is *objectively* true, and easy to point out, but in reality has nothing to do with what people's alignments actually are most of the time.Drezi wrote:
Also is this some kind of MafiaScum trend to throw around phrases like "nitpicking on semantics" just for the sake of doing so? If someone isn't making sense I'll get to the end of it to see why it happened and what he actually wanted.
he had 2 votes, at least one of whom was you who had been pushing it for a while iirc, and iirc a shitton of negative sentiment/people agreeing that he hadn't done anything even if they weren't explicitly voting him (correct me if I'm wrong on this), when in reality he just didn't have any RL time to do anything. you don't see why someone would get pissed off at that?Drezi wrote:
He had two votes early D1, and he breaks down, yeah how could anyone possible bear that kind extended pressure.
can you walk me through this? I don't remember this being what happened either so I'm either misremembering something or not getting what your point here is.Drezi wrote:
He didn't vote him after one post, but he did change his read to scum and voiced intent to vote Setsuen after one post.
what pushes have you made outside of the Magic Bomb/Ace pushes?Drezi wrote:
And I'm pretty sure I covered the semantics part earlier. Yes, it is easy for scum to comment something that is objectively true, I couldn't care less and I won't forego sorting something because of that, holding it against me is pretty pointless it's not all I'm doing.
There was no agreement from others at all, I haven't been "pushing it for a while", it was like 2 posts alltogether andpieguy1372 wrote:
he had 2 votes, at least one of whom was you who had been pushing it for a while iirc, and iirc a shitton of negative sentiment/people agreeing that he hadn't done anything even if they weren't explicitly voting him (correct me if I'm wrong on this), when in reality he just didn't have any RL time to do anything. you don't see why someone would get pissed off at that?
Are you seriously suggesting that I'm in need of more content in this game?pieguy1372 wrote:
what pushes have you made outside of the Magic Bomb/Ace pushes?
i tend to read people in terms of the pushes they're actually making rather than how much content it looks like they have - it is fairly easy to fake just commenting on posts. see: my Navizel read because he's not actually pushing anyone at all.Drezi wrote:
Are you seriously suggesting that I'm in need of more content in this game?
- Magic Bomb - wrote:
This comment alone makes me just think you're [Setsuen] scum who's trying to pin blame on me if you get lynched, as you've essentially just said "Don't focus on the person you're reading as scum".
In your last games you were completely different though, you pointed out every detail of your thoughts right away, even if it was against the main oppinion. So why did you change your way of playing to passively analyzing stuff instead of your usual active scumhunt?Drezi wrote:
The only part you're right about is me not always posting my indepth thoughts/analyses regarding stuff, and since I can afford not to it's fine, because I can get better reads by seeing the uninfluenced interpretations of others of said exchanges, just like in your case now.
Imo you always were one of the most active towns and now your ISO is full of one liners, and half of it being you just trying to take part in the setsuen/MB conversation and that part even felt like just adding something to appear active. That's my feel to this.Drezi wrote:
I did not do that, maybe you just never realized.
I don't think this is anywhere near as binary as you're saying it is. he was previously town reading Setsuen, Setsuen does something suspicious, which makes the read drop from town to null. shortly after, we get this, which is where he said he was null reading Setsuen to begin with:Drezi wrote:
Most people sit at 0 or 1 in that regard aswell so I don't really see what you're getting at.
p/4432811 here he says Setsuen is town, in the following post Setsuen suggests MB as scum, in the next post MB changes his read saying:- Magic Bomb - wrote:
This comment alone makes me just think you're [Setsuen] scum who's trying to pin blame on me if you get lynched, as you've essentially just said "Don't focus on the person you're reading as scum".
after that we got these 2 posts:- Magic Bomb - wrote:
For the record, most of my reads are null because a lot of people have barely said anything, but I do have a few null-town, null-scum, and one scum read.
Setsuen wrote:
Stop trying to twist my word scum. I had a better scum read on Haneii than you and I was questioning why Drezi wasn't even focusing on Haneii when he had much more scum points. That and the fact that we can just lynch Ace and if he flips scum YOU'RE ALMOST 100% certain to be scum. by means of association.
Did you see me dropping my focus on Haneii entirely AFTER he asked me to give him my scum reads? no. but 10/01 nice try scum.
Also
> scum who's trying to pin blame on me if you get lynched
I hope you know Miler only show up guilty on cop report. I still flip town if I die. Also anyone who played long enough should know that "pinning blame on others"while being lynched as scum means literally almost NOTHING unless I'm town. So nice possible slip you scum.
Also >Still trying to say lynch to me on D1 after my past games 10/10.
it wasn't until a few posts after that where Setsuen was supposedly "constantly twisting his words around" that he started hard scum reading him. it's exactly as he said in the game thread: individually saying something is scummy doesn't mean you're scum reading them, it just means you think they're more likely town but could acknowledge some things they did might make more sense coming from scum.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
..."Stop trying to twist my word" *twists words* 10/10 logic there
What the actual fuck???!sLaiNi wrote:
Imo you always were one of the most active towns and now your ISO is full of one liners, and half of it being you just trying to take part in the setsuen/MB conversation and that part even felt like just adding something to appear active. That's my feel to this.Drezi wrote:
I did not do that, maybe you just never realized.
Drezi wrote:
What the actual fuck???!sLaiNi wrote:
Imo you always were one of the most active towns and now your ISO is full of one liners, and half of it being you just trying to take part in the setsuen/MB conversation and that part even felt like just adding something to appear active. That's my feel to this.
Drezi wrote:
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Searching for a replacement for rEdo, deadline will only be extended at the request of a replacement, if one cannot be found by deadline irEdo wrote:
Also requesting a replacement. Extend the deadline by 24 hours, too.
I guess we are. But thanks for repeating what I've already said. So you don't want to say anything else about that?Drezi wrote:
My ISO is full of one liners TRYING TO TAKE PART in the setsuen/MB conversation, ADDING SOMETHING TO APPEAR ACTIVE? Are you serious? What the hell. Really. I have no words. Are we playing the same game.
Thanks for that. I can understand that you are afraid of me right now, but don't worry young fellow, the scum will be found.Drezi wrote:
Yeah, I am sorry sLaiNi I'm just desperately trying to take part in this game, and trying to appear active, but I guess it doesn't cut it by the high standards you're setting yourself. I'll try to step it up, don't vote me please.
Haven't finished catching up, but I thought this should be answered.Drezi wrote:
Ace you forgot to answer thisDrezi wrote:
also can you tell me what was the reason for confirming with "ayy lmao"?
>afraidsLaiNi wrote:
Thanks for that. I can understand that you are afraid of me right now, but don't worry young fellow, the scum will be found.Drezi wrote:
Yeah, I am sorry sLaiNi I'm just desperately trying to take part in this game, and trying to appear active, but I guess it doesn't cut it by the high standards you're setting yourself. I'll try to step it up, don't vote me please.
I thought it was clear that I meant it in an ironically way. Btw I got lynched once out of two games lawl (even though Drezi saved me the second time, thanks for your good play there again @ him)Ace Timing wrote:
>afraidsLaiNi wrote:
Thanks for that. I can understand that you are afraid of me right now, but don't worry young fellow, the scum will be found.
what person, regardless of scum or no, would be afraid of the guy who gets mislynched in nearly every game he appears in? Just sayin'.