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Ace Timing
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Ace Timing

Drezi wrote:

It doesn't really make a difference whether you actually liked your last game or not, the point is you had difficulty actually contributing. Your posts were mostly filler jokes, remarks and excuses, and it's no different here.
There literally aren't even any filler jokes, or remarks in my ISO past the goddamn confirm. Only one, which you scum read me off of. Tess made a similar reference in the last game, and I tried to get her lynched as mafia, awfully similar to what you're doing now.

Drezi wrote:

The miller thing has been talked to death, and now all you have to say is repeat that, and vote Amianki, when he didn't even suggest copping Setsuen obviously.
The miller conversation was still going on during the time of my post and there's really nothing else to talk about, it's even continued afterwards and I see nothing wrong with talking about one of the only two roleclaims in the game.

Drezi wrote:

Also in the Hoenn game we had a rolecop (aswell as a normal cop), and we've talked about rolecops here aswell before your vote, and you're saying you weren't aware of the existence of such a role...
I don't remember the existence of a rolecop in the Hoenn game, I remember me being vanilla cop, but that's it.

Drezi wrote:

Wow, that huge overreaction. I never even said anything about your play in the Hoenn game. I don't even think I need to finish reading this.
Nothing in my rant contains anything concerning my play in Hoenn.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
You can disregard the Hoenn part, I misread it as you saying that I claim you haven't contributed there.
MBomb
MBomb

Frostings wrote:

Anyways, everyone hop on my wagon against easy scumread MB
I have free cookies 8-)
why does this post give me the feeling we have a jester
MBomb
MBomb
Like even if it wasn't me that wording "easy scumread" just sounds like such a forced scum comment.
MBomb
MBomb

Ace Timing wrote:

Its not even that I'm not contributing or anything, I literally had two posts and was away from the computer the entire day, and you voted me. I try and satisfy the people asking me vote, and you find that scummy.

You claim I'm not contributing, but I haven't contributed in any game I've been in except the newbie game, and I'm literally just not posting. There are other people who aren't contributing just as much as me, such as farto. But you focus on me over a fucking joke. It's really stupid, and it bothers me. It was even mentioned in either the Hoenn or GIM game that it would be interesting if Jess and Setsuen where put in the same game. I was simply making a reference to that, it has nothing to do with my level of contribution or quality of posts here, a simple joke. I was at a library the entire day today and basically could not post, as posting from the phone is just a pain. And I don't think I've made any reaction jokes other than my confirm which is completely fucking unrelated to my alignment. You're just finding something to lynch me on over nothing really. It's a bother having to deal with people like that, cause when you make an actual response to satisfy them, they just find more and more problems until it leads to a mislynch or being driven to roleclaim at L-1 to discover they were a cop or doctor and then the PR gets lost over something completely fucking meaningless. Someone will probably find some problem with this little rant and it will lead absolutely fucking nowhere and it just wastes time. It's really frustrating to be constantly scumread, but its even more aggravating when you get scumread over something stupid like a joke post. At least I fucking know now that joke posts are inherently scummy and I should probably never make any ever again. Great lesson sensei, I will cherish this one.
On the other hand I agree with this post a lot, judging him based on joke posts is not really a good idea, he's not contributed much at all, but at the same time, neither have a few other people in this game. Whilst this feels like an overreaction, I don't really get any feels that he is scum from this post, the way it's worded makes me feel like he is town.
Sakura
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Frostings (3) - sLaiNi, Amianki
sLaiNi (2) - pieguy1372, Navizel
rEdo (2) - fartownik, Setsuen
Ace Timing (2) - Zexion, Drezi
Setsuen (1) - Haneii
- Magic Bomb - (1) - Frostings

Not Voting (3) - - Magic Bomb -, rEdo, Ace Timing

With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
Lots of arguing back and forth, nothing new...
rEdo
809 posts
Joined November 2008
rEdo

Drezi wrote:

I think repeating stuff over and over is a theme of Setsuen himself :D
That's Setsuen for you. He can be pretty much fucking anything. Be it scum, town, my mom or any other alignment, he'll keep rambling on stupid things in his posts. We all should just drop the miller claim, honestly. Trying to figure that out earlier than D2 will bring us nothing but frustration.

Navizel wrote:

Amianki wrote:

What exactly is wrong with my statement?
I don't know. I just don't like it. I don't think it would help town to waste a night on a claimed miller when there are others which is more suspicious than Setsuen.
Does that mean you're townreading Setsuen? Why?

Setsuen wrote:

Or I could actually be Town PR and Haneii is baiting me to out my real role. Makes you wonder why Haneii is trying so hard to tunnel on me when 1.It's difficult to get a mislynch off me D1 bc of possible WIFOM anyway and 2.My possible WIFOM rekt mafia(in this case invaders) when I am town.
Tell me how she would know that you're fakeclaiming miller. Or maybe you're just not a miller in the end?

Zexion wrote:

I hope that rEdo's didn't notice Ace's lack of contribution when he posted or else I'll have to worry.
Nah, when I firstly read the thread the only people that stood out to me were sLaiNi leaning null-scum and Amianki leaning town. If we were to scumread people that don't contribute, we would end up putting almost an half of the players in the scum tier.

Ace Timing wrote:

Stuff.
Nice AtE. But you're right, I don't know why making jokes is any worse than being a total lurkfuck like me.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

rEdo wrote:

Tell me how she would know that you're fakeclaiming miller. Or maybe you're just not a miller in the end?
To figure it out you would first have to look at Haneii as scum. Then you realise that a few of you nicely pointed out that I am a huge WIFOM and therefore Haneii(as scum) would try to bait out my real role just in case I was WIFOMing about my Miller claim. I am still going to stand on my Miller claim. If scum wants to N1 me it's their loss.

Town-reading Navizel for now
While Zexion post lean towards town I am paranoid about other people who say things such as "Quality post" and "Is this how people scum hunt now" bc this is what scum usually say in EpicMafia z.z


pieguy1372 wrote:

I actually need to do some other stuff and haven't read the past 3 pages in-depth. I'll be back in a few hours.
pieguy is just a bad read right now. First they declare they're going to ignore me and now they're not responding after their "few hours"which is now 29hours.

Slani just lean scum for based off the fact that they tried to go for me D1 like 95% of scums do when they first play against me.

Frosting and Drezi seem town but lets face it. There's always one scum who somehow manage to trick people into thinking that they're town.

rEdo wrote:

Does that mean you're townreading Setsuen? Why?
FYI Navizel don't have to town read me to state that. I feel like you're twisting her words.

I suggest D1 lynch to be between Haeii,slani and the few other lurkers in this game.
MBomb
MBomb

pieguy1372 wrote:

vote: sLaiNi

Zexion might also be scum. Drezi maybe town.

free town points to the first person who correctly guesses why I made this vote.
Seeing as no one has got it yet, you should probably just tell us now. I see no reason to hide it seeing as no one is trying to guess anymore.
Haneii
1,203 posts
Joined November 2009
Haneii

Drezi wrote:

Do you find any other people suspicious Haneii?
Just one other person atm, but I'd like to see more posts before I say anything.


- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Haneii wrote:

Sorry for being suspicious over the fact that you're taunting PRs. Not to mention your fascination with N1 (in a game that looks like it roles are day specific.)
Just wondering, how does this game look like its roles are day specific?
Looking at the nightingale game, and considering we don't have an Alice in Wonderland flavour or neighborhoods, I think this game draws inspiration from the roles (ie: day specific voters, night specific vigs, non-consecutive night cops etc).

Just a lot of setup speculation/assumptions.





@Setsuen: What do you think of rEdo?
Navizel
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Navizel

Setsuen wrote:

FYI Navizel don't have to town read me to state that. I feel like you're twisting her words.
>her

why you do this
Sakura
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Sakura
Vote Count 1.12

Frostings (3) - sLaiNi, Amianki
sLaiNi (2) - pieguy1372, Navizel
rEdo (2) - fartownik, Setsuen
Ace Timing (2) - Zexion, Drezi
Setsuen (1) - Haneii
- Magic Bomb - (1) - Frostings

Not Voting (3) - - Magic Bomb -, rEdo, Ace Timing

With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Navizel wrote:

why you do this
Irrelevant filler post whining about gender when there is girl avi.


Haneii wrote:

@Setsuen: What do you think of rEdo?
rEdo is null. rEdo's post can be scum trying to look like they're doing something by talking about me or town who generally just state the obvious things about me.

For example:

rEdo wrote:

Nice point, by the way. I like the fact you're cautious.

Now when I think about this, scum could be selecting kills so they can scumpaint people. Let's say scum is in [7], then the team could kill [6] and [8] and say "hey, [7] is completety unhearable nao, scum pls b0ss!!!!".
is quite neutral bc either scum or town could have asked it to either benefit them if they're scum bc WIFOM or to clear up uncertainty if they are town depending on the answer Sakura gave.

@Mod: In the first place does the invaders have day chat.
Sakura
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Setsuen wrote:

@Mod: In the first place does the invaders have day chat.
I can't answer this question.
Navizel
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Navizel
Okay I'm just not going to bother just like I did before. Whatever.
Haneii
1,203 posts
Joined November 2009
Haneii
@rEdo: what do you think of setsuen's null read of you? Would you say it was expected or would you have thought he'd read you differently?
Frostings
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Joined May 2013
Frostings

Setsuen wrote:

@Mod: In the first place does the invaders have day chat.
nice attempt at townslip :^)
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Frostings wrote:

nice attempt at townslip :^)
Nice attempt at filler post to make it seem like you're actually doing something.
Also oddly enough you were quite "passive"about my claim and didn't try to stop people from continuing the senseless discussion on how valid my claim was despite the fact that you're more active than majority of the current players. Were you perhaps hoping to EXTEND the discussion of my role so that you can fake that you're doing something by randomly accusing other people?

That and your post towards me are neutral which only mean one thing to me:Possible scum who tries to avoid any 1v1 with me by only posting neutral comment bc if not they might be lynched.



I can probably come up with a few reasons why I can scum read everyone here. My paranoia is good.
Haneii
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Haneii

Setsuen wrote:

I can probably come up with a few reasons why I can scum read everyone here.
You're suppose to be searching for scum, not trying to come up with fuel to scum paint EVERYONE.

Saying that, I still would love to hear all the scummy things everyone in this game has done so far. Would definitely be helpful to see it from your view (considering I'm getting more town and null reads than scum).
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings

Setsuen wrote:

Nice attempt at filler post to make it seem like you're actually doing something.
Also oddly enough you were quite "passive"about my claim and didn't try to stop people from continuing the senseless discussion on how valid my claim was despite the fact that you're more active than majority of the current players.
miller claim doesn't do much except spread wifom, which is why I didn't really get into it

Setsuen wrote:

Were you perhaps hoping to EXTEND the discussion of my role so that you can fake that you're doing something by randomly accusing other people?
Uh, nope? But that's a cute theory

Setsuen wrote:

Possible scum who tries to avoid any 1v1 with me by only posting neutral comment bc if not they might be lynched.
I think everyone, regardless of alignment, will try to avoid ANY 1v1 with you Setsuen :)

Haneii wrote:

Saying that, I still would love to hear all the scummy things everyone in this game has done so far. Would definitely be helpful to see it from your view (considering I'm getting more town and null reads than scum).
You're going to regret saying that veeeery soon :P
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen
I'm going to sleep so lets start with MagicBomb

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Seeing as no one has got it yet, you should probably just tell us now. I see no reason to hide it seeing as no one is trying to guess anymore.
Amazing how Magic is still asking pie about this AFTER I stated that pie hasn't said anything for an ENTIRE DAY. Instead of asking the mod to prod pie.
That said
@Mod:prod pieguy the noob

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

why does this post give me the feeling we have a jester
Pointless post and seriously this kind of post is what scum says a LOT in the hundreds of EpicMafia game I played. Guys don't lynch X they might be mafia. Guys there might be fool don't do this. 10/10


Now lets move on to the fact that MagicBomb has only responded to my post TWICE. one time on rEdo's activity level oddly enough and another was on the issue that I keep saying no one would target me N1 which lets face it was a pointless argument just based off the fact that I stating the fact about what happened in previous games. Then we move on to the fact that MagicBomb has targetted slani a lot which is QUITE SIMILAR to Frosting who started targeted MagicBomb. I seriously doubt it''s a new fad where people randomly FOS one person for the entire D1.


Frostings wrote:

I think everyone, regardless of alignment, will try to avoid ANY 1v1 with you Setsuen :)
Stop lying. We all know what CB and Navizel did D1 on Lupus. They even tried 2V1.

Ace Timing wrote:

Is there even a point in investigating a miller claim? Either way it'll turn up mafia, don't see what could come of investigating it.
FOS Ace. Feels like Ace is acting ignorant of the fact that Amianki said cop(but actually meant role cop). Not to mention the fact that I stated ROLE cop AFTER Amianki's post. Attempt at trying to fake newbie town found. That and this could be an attempt for the invaders to generate USELESS discussion for them to talk about or to bait town to talk about more useless stuff like Ï think he meant role cop"

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

On the other hand I agree with this post a lot, judging him based on joke posts is not really a good idea, he's not contributed much at all, but at the same time, neither have a few other people in this game. Whilst this feels like an overreaction, I don't really get any feels that he is scum from this post, the way it's worded makes me feel like he is town.
Just based off the fact that if Ace is scum, it would not have taken long for us to lynch him/her off D1 bc easy scum slip would occur with enough votes on them. However MagicBomb kind of saved him so if Ace do flip scum, MagicBomb is next. At the same time Amianki probably has a different alignment from Ace just based off what Ace said bc I don't trust faked ignorance.

Ace Timing wrote:

There are other people who aren't contributing just as much as me, such as farto. But you focus on me over a fucking joke. It's really stupid, and it bothers me.
This is scummy too fyi. I have lynched Navizel like TWICE and HE(thanks Navizel, too bad I prob won't remember next game) flipped scum just bc I went onto him hard for his super lurk(which btw he whined and dnied that he was lurking) Whining about contribution is a huge scum tell for me, Esp after the UPick where people FOSed scum me for whining and not posting much as I used to.
Sakura
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Setsuen wrote:

@Mod:prod pieguy the noob
pieguy1372 has been prodded!
MBomb
MBomb

Setsuen wrote:

I'm going to sleep so lets start with MagicBomb

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Seeing as no one has got it yet, you should probably just tell us now. I see no reason to hide it seeing as no one is trying to guess anymore.
Amazing how Magic is still asking pie about this AFTER I stated that pie hasn't said anything for an ENTIRE DAY. Instead of asking the mod to prod pie.
That said
@Mod:prod pieguy the noob
Whether someone has posted for an entire day or not, does not change the fact that they can read through the thread when they are here, and answer the question, it's not like if he answers a day later it's gonna affect his reason.

Setsuen wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

why does this post give me the feeling we have a jester
Pointless post and seriously this kind of post is what scum says a LOT in the hundreds of EpicMafia game I played. Guys don't lynch X they might be mafia. Guys there might be fool don't do this. 10/10
His wording was god awful, I even explained how afterwards. This post wasn't even intending to be meant as "he's a jester", as I'm pretty sure there is no jester in this game, it was more "Am I the only one noticing the god awful wording here"


Setsuen wrote:

Then we move on to the fact that MagicBomb has targetted slani a lot which is QUITE SIMILAR to Frosting who started targeted MagicBomb. I seriously doubt it''s a new fad where people randomly FOS one person for the entire D1.
Erm... when have I targetted slalni at all? All I've done is ask him whether his doublevote was just for today or whether it was all time, which could be very bad for town in future days if we didn't know.

You seem to be making an attempt to read the game, but at the same time, your scumhunting ability is being kinda slowed down by your paranoia. Don't read everyone as scum, not everyone is scum. Rather than going through your reasons for scum reading every person however, could we just have a list of the most suspicious to least? Then we can just ask if we want to know the reasonings for your suspicions on a specific person.
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
i should be around in a few hours for real this time
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel

Ace Timing wrote:

unvote
Last fucking time I ever vote someone who isn't obv scum.
lol

Yeah, I asked you to use your vote but why would you vote someone who isn't obv scum to you? Normally, you would vote for the scummiest person to you.

lol
Ace Timing
4 posts
Joined October 2014
Ace Timing
I saw a scummy thing and voted on it. Simple. Were you expecting me to join a random wagon or something?
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
*random should be preexisting probably. Probably.
Navizel
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Navizel
Huh what? You said Amianki isn't obv scum and then you saw a scummy thing on him?
Navizel
2,982 posts
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Navizel
Also a friendly reminder that meta isn't everything
Ace Timing
4 posts
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Ace Timing
one scummy post doesn't necessarily mean obv scum.
Navizel
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Joined April 2011
Navizel
huh
Ace Timing
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Joined October 2014
Ace Timing
obv scum would be like constant scumminess over the entire game, everyone has one sus post, doesn't make them scum. Hence the use of the word obvious.
Ace Timing
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Joined October 2014
Ace Timing
at least to me, you might have a different perception on what obv scum means.
Navizel
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Navizel

Drezi wrote:

@sLaiNi: I really don't think hiding your passive doublevoting ability is a good idea as town, and you shouldn't want to just surprise hammer someone anyway.

I don't really agree with his thought process and behavior concerning his doublevoting ability at all, but looking at that only I didn't feel it was coming from scum.
What I didn't like is the exchange starting here: p/4424063
Farto tells Setsuen "LIES" and sLaiNi's sarcastic tone in the followup post gave me the impression that he doesn't really buy the claim either, yet when farto said he doesn't actually think Setsuen is lying, sLaiNi went on to agree "but still worth keeping an eye on" kinda taking a step back at the same time. So if you detailed your thoughts a bit more here sLaiNi, that'd be welcome.
quoting because why not
Apparently I didn't post my thoughts regarding that exchange. This caught my eye as well and it's one of the reasons I'm voting sLaiNi.
Navizel
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Navizel
So what are your reads currently? It just seems fishy that you voted someone who isn't obv scum to you.
Navizel
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Navizel

Navizel wrote:

Drezi wrote:

@sLaiNi: I really don't think hiding your passive doublevoting ability is a good idea as town, and you shouldn't want to just surprise hammer someone anyway.

I don't really agree with his thought process and behavior concerning his doublevoting ability at all, but looking at that only I didn't feel it was coming from scum.
What I didn't like is the exchange starting here: p/4424063
Farto tells Setsuen "LIES" and sLaiNi's sarcastic tone in the followup post gave me the impression that he doesn't really buy the claim either, yet when farto said he doesn't actually think Setsuen is lying, sLaiNi went on to agree "but still worth keeping an eye on" kinda taking a step back at the same time. So if you detailed your thoughts a bit more here sLaiNi, that'd be welcome.
quoting because why not
Apparently I didn't post my thoughts regarding that exchange. This caught my eye as well and it's one of the reasons I'm voting sLaiNi.
So this was answered already. hahaha still though, keeping an eye on him is good :^)
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
I wanna hear more from farto and rEdo, and I'm almost completely ignoring Setsuen for now. He seems delusional with some posts tbh.
Ace Timing
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Ace Timing
@Mod: are alignments chosen after role?
Navizel
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Navizel

Ace Timing wrote:

I wanna hear more from farto and rEdo, and I'm almost completely ignoring Setsuen for now. He seems delusional with some posts tbh.
Not surprising. It's your first game with Setsuen after all.
Navizel
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Navizel
Frostings
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Joined May 2013
Frostings

Ace Timing wrote:

@Mod: are alignments chosen after role?
Oh, yeah, inb4 miller scum :roll:

Setsuen wrote:

We all know what CB and Navizel did D1 on Lupus. They even tried 2V1.
No, literally no one knows what CB and Navizel did D1 on Lupus actually

Ace Timing wrote:

I'm almost completely ignoring Setsuen for now. He seems delusional with some posts tbh.
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
I'm pretty sure the entire point of getting into a pissing war with you on Lupus was to apathy out the game. I don't remember exactly what the cause of us getting lynched was, but I do remember thinking that you had less to do with it than you think.
Navizel
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Navizel
I don't even remember what we did on Lupus lmao.

This is another post to remind everyone that meta is not everything. If it is, scums could just kill Setsuen N1 and then shift the blame on to me because I usually kill Setsuen N1.
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings
man, the content in this game sucks
town better step it up so we can start pressuring real lurkers and stop them from getting a free pass D1
The vote count is also trash, scum intentionally has the votes spread out so we don't pressure anyone

everyone take out your weak post-RVS votes and form a real wagon so we can actually move this game forward
I actually have a real reason for my vote on MB because EVERYONE townread him since the start of Day1 in the last game, and he got a free pass to endgame because he wasn't pressured ONCE
Haneii
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Haneii

Frostings wrote:

I actually have a real reason for my vote on MB because EVERYONE townread him since the start of Day1 in the last game, and he got a free pass to endgame because he wasn't pressured ONCE
Is that your reason, or will it be in another post? o.o
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Whether someone has posted for an entire day or not, does not change the fact that they can read through the thread when they are here, and answer the question, it's not like if he answers a day later it's gonna affect his reason.


Erm... when have I targetted slalni at all? All I've done is ask him whether his doublevote was just for today or whether it was all time, which could be very bad for town in future days if we didn't know.

You seem to be making an attempt to read the game, but at the same time, your scumhunting ability is being kinda slowed down by your paranoia. Don't read everyone as scum, not everyone is scum. Rather than going through your reasons for scum reading every person however, could we just have a list of the most suspicious to least? Then we can just ask if we want to know the reasonings for your suspicions on a specific person.
You decided not to ask the mod to prod pieguy after my rant of him not being on for an entire day. If that is not suspicious what is?
Also doesn't help that you asked in slani doublevote ability was today or not. It does not change the fact that you're focusing on people who claimed and are EASY to get a mislynch on(lets face it a lot of people were FOSing slani) and knowing whether slani can doublevote for the entire game is more beneficial for scum than town if slani is town due to the effects of WIFOM on scum.



Navizel. Please stop posting one liners that are almost useless to the game bc with each post my town read of you is dropping. But of course it seems that you're arguing with ace so either you're ace's scum buddy who is posting 1liners each to look like you're doing something or you got baited hard into going into a 1liner discussion with ace. Take your pick town.

Frostings wrote:

[
No, literally no one knows what CB and Navizel did D1 on Lupus actually
They tried EXTREMELY hard to Mislynch me D1. Town overturned the lynch to Navizel when I was on like L-1 10/10

Amianki wrote:

I'm pretty sure the entire point of getting into a pissing war with you on Lupus was to apathy out the game. I don't remember exactly what the cause of us getting lynched was, but I do remember thinking that you had less to do with it than you think.
Does not explain why town didn't lynch me off after I self voted and was like at L-1.

Navizel wrote:

I don't even remember what we did on Lupus lmao.

This is another post to remind everyone that meta is not everything. If it is, scums could just kill Setsuen N1 and then shift the blame on to me because I usually kill Setsuen N1.
You didn't in ChaosInDummyVille.

Frostings wrote:

man, the content in this game sucks
town better step it up so we can start pressuring real lurkers and stop them from getting a free pass D1
The vote count is also trash, scum intentionally has the votes spread out so we don't pressure anyone

everyone take out your weak post-RVS votes and form a real wagon so we can actually move this game forward
I actually have a real reason for my vote on MB because EVERYONE townread him since the start of Day1 in the last game, and he got a free pass to endgame because he wasn't pressured ONCE
WE ARE LYNCHING ACE THEN. IF HE FLIPS SCUM WE LYNCH MB NEXT DUE TO MB SAVING ACE. GG I DID IT

Unvote
Vote:Ace Timing for using the same I am going to discredit Setsuen bc he's crazy move which WAYYY too much scum has used on me
MBomb
MBomb

Frostings wrote:

I actually have a real reason for my vote on MB because EVERYONE townread him since the start of Day1 in the last game, and he got a free pass to endgame because he wasn't pressured ONCE
actually in my last game I got lynched D1 but ok i guess

Setsuen wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Whether someone has posted for an entire day or not, does not change the fact that they can read through the thread when they are here, and answer the question, it's not like if he answers a day later it's gonna affect his reason.


Erm... when have I targetted slalni at all? All I've done is ask him whether his doublevote was just for today or whether it was all time, which could be very bad for town in future days if we didn't know.

You seem to be making an attempt to read the game, but at the same time, your scumhunting ability is being kinda slowed down by your paranoia. Don't read everyone as scum, not everyone is scum. Rather than going through your reasons for scum reading every person however, could we just have a list of the most suspicious to least? Then we can just ask if we want to know the reasonings for your suspicions on a specific person.
You decided not to ask the mod to prod pieguy after my rant of him not being on for an entire day. If that is not suspicious what is?
Also doesn't help that you asked in slani doublevote ability was today or not. It does not change the fact that you're focusing on people who claimed and are EASY to get a mislynch on(lets face it a lot of people were FOSing slani) and knowing whether slani can doublevote for the entire game is more beneficial for scum than town if slani is town due to the effects of WIFOM on scum.
I don't really understand how not asking someone for a prod is suspicious in any way, whether I ask it or not, he will see the question, and if he doesn't respond, I will ask again. Asking one question isn't focusing, and in fact is not even relevant to a scum read on slalni in any way. Tbh I kinda forgot anyone was even suspicious of him, at this stage I'm not (Although the fact he's gone into lurk mode suddenly seems strange). Knowing whether Slalni can doublevote for the whole game is beneficial to town considering it means that if for some reason we have great suspicions of someone D2, a lot of people may vote at once, and if Slalni is one, then we could get an unintentional quick hammer, which would be very bad for town, as even if the person we lynch flips scum, we have less time to talk in general.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I don't really understand how not asking someone for a prod is suspicious in any way, whether I ask it or not, he will see the question, and if he doesn't respond, I will ask again. Asking one question isn't focusing, and in fact is not even relevant to a scum read on slalni in any way. Tbh I kinda forgot anyone was even suspicious of him, at this stage I'm not (Although the fact he's gone into lurk mode suddenly seems strange). Knowing whether Slalni can doublevote for the whole game is beneficial to town considering it means that if for some reason we have great suspicions of someone D2, a lot of people may vote at once, and if Slalni is one, then we could get an unintentional quick hammer, which would be very bad for town, as even if the person we lynch flips scum, we have less time to talk in general.
The problem with scum is they never look into the intention of their post before posting. The fact that you never did tell the mod to prod pieguy AFTER my complain about his 24hrs+ missing tells me that you had the intention to just "wait it out"(AKA Stalling) which is just what a scum would do. If you add in my paranoia, I also think you added that question in as a backup plan to look as if you're actually contributing to the discussion when you're not really doing it by asking someone who haven't responded to anything for a LONG TIME. That and when pie do respond which would have been a LONG TIME after if I havent'prod him, you can just keep asking question bc of the reason called:Lurk.

Yes I can predict what scum do in advance TY.

slani won't quickhammer D2 if they're town if they dothey know they're going to be throwing the game bc we will lynch them D3 for that.knowing that slani can doublevote for the entire game is more BENEFICIAL for scum esp if slani is town bc 1.They can keep slani alive for WIFOM or to get a free ML off 2.If we keep slani alive, they can choose to kill her off bc of double vote ability or to keep her alive so that they can try to earn slani's trust so that if it ever gets to a near lylo situation, slani will side with them instead. So no, scum not knowing about whether slani ability is for the full game or not is more beneficial for town bc that means scum can't pull any tricks on us.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen
Also more scum points for Haneii for directing my suspicions to other players in order to avoid the hard 1v1 with me.
Ace Timing
4 posts
Joined October 2014
Ace Timing
So why'd you vote me if you are universally recognized as WIFOM wall? I'm not the first to tell you that.
Ace Timing
4 posts
Joined October 2014
Ace Timing
And your self-centered opinion that everything involving you is relevant to the game is really annoying. Like not everything is something scum is plotting against you. It's beyond paranoia and its a pain to deal with.
MBomb
MBomb

Setsuen wrote:

slani won't quickhammer D2 if they're town if they dothey know they're going to be throwing the game bc we will lynch them D3 for that.
I never said he would, I actually meant that there could be very quick votes in that case, and a hammer might be done without people realising Slalni had 2 votes, and him possibly forgetting to mention it.

Anyway, I'm just gonna end this discussion now, it seems to me your paranoia ends up making everything you read look more scummy. I'm pretty sure you're town at this stage, however your constant scumpainting of, as you said yourself, everybody, is kinda suspicious.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Ace Timing wrote:

And your self-centered opinion that everything involving you is relevant to the game is really annoying. Like not everything is something scum is plotting against you. It's beyond paranoia and its a pain to deal with.
I have town reads. You just happened to be a scum read. You're not helping anyone town-read you by posting this to try and discredit me fyi.

Your faked ignorance of a lot of things also add on to the reason why you're probably scum.
Ace Timing
4 posts
Joined October 2014
Ace Timing
Why would I care about someone town reading me if the point is to find scum?

Would you like to share your town reads?

I'm also not trying to discredit you. I'm stating that I will not be taking your posts very seriously for future reference. I'm not the first person to say that either.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Ace Timing wrote:

Why would I care about someone town reading me if the point is to find scum?

Would you like to share your town reads?

I'm also not trying to discredit you. I'm stating that I will not be taking your posts very seriously for future reference. I'm not the first person to say that either.

Setsuen wrote:

Town-reading Navizel for now
While Zexion post lean towards town I am paranoid about other people who say things such as "Quality post" and "Is this how people scum hunt now" bc this is what scum usually say in EpicMafia z.z


Frosting and Drezi seem town but lets face it. There's always one scum who somehow manage to trick people into thinking that they're town.
>You don't care if anyone is town-reading you or not
I guess you don't care about being lynched either.

Those who say that they're not going to care much are either scums or town baiting scum into a fight and I doubt you were baiting scum when you said that.
Ace Timing
4 posts
Joined October 2014
Ace Timing
sigh, I'm going to sleep now, and I have school tomorrow, so don't expect much from me tomorrow. Hopefully everyone will be able to say their piece about everything that's happened by the time I get home or bother to check this place.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi

Ace Timing wrote:

I wanna hear more from farto and rEdo, and I'm almost completely ignoring Setsuen for now. He seems delusional with some posts tbh.
I wanna hear more from YOU, other than you replying to people attacking you.

Ace Timing wrote:

So why'd you vote me if you are universally recognized as WIFOM wall? I'm not the first to tell you that.
Setsuen doing Setsuen stuff is way better, than you not posting anything about anyone else in the game.

Ace Timing wrote:

So why'd you vote me if you are universally recognized as WIFOM wall? I'm not the first to tell you that.
What do you mean here?

Ace Timing wrote:

I'm also not trying to discredit you. I'm stating that I will not be taking your posts very seriously for future reference. I'm not the first person to say that either.
You saying that you're not gonna take his posts seriously is like the definition of trying to discredit him... Setsuen's posting style is crazy, and can get annoying but there's no reason for town to decide to actually ignore him.

It sticks how you cover all your statements with "I'm not the only one to say this".
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
This was meant to be the second quote:

Ace Timing wrote:

your self-centered opinion that everything involving you is relevant to the game is really annoying. Like not everything is something scum is plotting against you. It's beyond paranoia and its a pain to deal with.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi

Frostings wrote:

I actually have a real reason for my vote on MB because EVERYONE townread him since the start of Day1 in the last game, and he got a free pass to endgame because he wasn't pressured ONCE
Yeah lol, it sure is gonna be some serious pressure if you explicitly say that it should only be done because he wasn't being voted last game.....

However

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I actually meant that there could be very quick votes in that case, and a hammer might be done without people realising Slalni had 2 votes, and him possibly forgetting to mention it.
this does feel like a very weak/forced explanation and

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I'm pretty sure you're town at this stage, however your constant scumpainting of, as you said yourself, everybody, is kinda suspicious.
I really don't like this wording either, "pretty sure you're town" followed by "kinda suspicious" is off in my book.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi

Ace Timing wrote:

ayy confirm lmao
also can you tell me what was the reason for confirming with "ayy lmao"?
Sakura
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7,979 posts
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Topic Starter
Sakura

Ace Timing wrote:

@Mod: are alignments chosen after role?
No (And normally this will never be the case unless it's an upick).
Vote Count 1.13

Frostings (3) - sLaiNi, Amianki
Ace Timing (3) - Zexion, Drezi, Setsuen
sLaiNi (2) - pieguy1372, Navizel
rEdo (1) - fartownik
Setsuen (1) - Haneii
- Magic Bomb - (1) - Frostings

Not Voting (3) - - Magic Bomb -, rEdo, Ace Timing

With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
Zexion
308 posts
Joined May 2012
Zexion
@Setsuen: since you used EpicMafia as a argument, I actually went and played a couple games there to see if those hold ground... I don't want to go there again.

@Ace: It's not about a "joke" post, it's about the time you made it when RVS was seemingly over. Lukers will be caught in due time but right now it's better to accuse someone based on what they wrote instead of what they should be writing. Don't get so personal about it, no one has anything agaist you.

Setsuen wrote:

Frostings wrote:

nice attempt at townslip :^)
Nice attempt at filler post to make it seem like you're actually doing something.
Also oddly enough you were quite "passive"about my claim and didn't try to stop people from continuing the senseless discussion on how valid my claim was despite the fact that you're more active than majority of the current players. Were you perhaps hoping to EXTEND the discussion of my role so that you can fake that you're doing something by randomly accusing other people?

That and your post towards me are neutral which only mean one thing to me:Possible scum who tries to avoid any 1v1 with me by only posting neutral comment bc if not they might be lynched.

I can probably come up with a few reasons why I can scum read everyone here. My paranoia is good.
So you're pissed off than Frosting didn't make a fuzz over your claim? Like if we needed to go insane because you claimed Miller? I don't get your obsession with being the center of attention, like if you have to remember us every five minutes of your role.

Also that last sentence is like "I'm so town guise, trust me!"

@Amianki: post something useful? You're not being better than Ace, a vote on frostings then random comments but none of them helpful.

Ugh I forgot about Setsuen's walls. Might need to read again later because my concentration drops to zero when going over them.
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
I lied, I'll be around tomorrow.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Zexion wrote:

@Setsuen: since you used EpicMafia as a argument, I actually went and played a couple games there to see if those hold ground... I don't want to go there again.

So you're pissed off than Frosting didn't make a fuzz over your claim? Like if we needed to go insane because you claimed Miller? I don't get your obsession with being the center of attention, like if you have to remember us every five minutes of your role.

Also that last sentence is like "I'm so town guise, trust me!"
Did you try Main lobby or Sandbox?

Not caring much about a miller claim is just plain suspicious esp with the huge discussion people had on it. However Frosting just decided to avoid almost all of it.
If this doesn't feel like a distancing attempt from his possible scum buddies then CAN be called a distancing attempt?


The last sentence was more of a fact based thing that boast about my ability to scumhunt. no jealousy bc I scumhunt differently with a higher win rate is allowed.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen
I missed out a "What"in one of my setence. 10/10
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings

Setsuen wrote:

The last sentence was more of a fact based thing that boast about my ability to scumhunt. no jealousy bc I scumhunt differently with a higher win rate is allowed.

I'm just gonna pretend like I didn't just read that
MBomb
MBomb

Drezi wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I'm pretty sure you're town at this stage, however your constant scumpainting of, as you said yourself, everybody, is kinda suspicious.
I really don't like this wording either, "pretty sure you're town" followed by "kinda suspicious" is off in my book.
Someone can be town but still do something suspicious. It's not like every single townie ever is gonna be perfect and never say anything wrong or do anything slightly off.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
so what makes you pretty sure he's town, if his constant scumpainting is suspicious to you at the same time?
MBomb
MBomb

Drezi wrote:

so what makes you pretty sure he's town, if his constant scumpainting is suspicious to you at the same time?
It seems like legitimate attempts to try to scumhunt, even if it isn't going well for him. It's just the way he's doing it is kinda suspicious because he's suspecting literally everyone, which seeing as only 25% of the people in the game are actually scum, isn't exactly the right way to go about things.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Drezi wrote:

so what makes you pretty sure he's town, if his constant scumpainting is suspicious to you at the same time?
Shouldn't you be focusing more on people like Haneii for disengaging from a 1v1 with me and then directing my attention to others? I mean this is what some people used against me(Yes CB you tried to do it in Lupus and Sephibro did it in the game I lost z.z) So that means that Haneii is either 1.Scum or 2.Probably some investigative role who was dumb enough to pick a 1v1 with me instead of acting passively.


As of this point the scum team are either Ace+MB+Haneii for me or the few known people who have barely posted anything namely pieguy,fartownik,rEdo,Amianki which are ODDLY SUSPICIOUSLY the people I would consider the "Veteran"in this game. It is just plain suspicious why they are not doing much about some of the pointless discussion that town has came up with and instead just sat on the sidelines to lurk. It is like they are just waiting for town to automatically lose by self destructing through paranoia etc.


I think it's time we tackle the "veteran"lurkers if we even want to have a chance to win.
MBomb
MBomb

Setsuen wrote:

Drezi wrote:

so what makes you pretty sure he's town, if his constant scumpainting is suspicious to you at the same time?
Shouldn't you be focusing more on people like Haneii for disengaging from a 1v1 with me and then directing my attention to others?

As of this point the scum team are either Ace+MB+Haneii for me
"I think MB is in the scum team, but don't focus on MB" wut, that logic makes literally 0 sense. If I was scum as you seem to think, dropping focus on me entirely would be stupid. This comment alone makes me just think you're scum who's trying to pin blame on me if you get lynched, as you've essentially just said "Don't focus on the person you're reading as scum".

I might post reads soon, if anyone's interested.
MBomb
MBomb
For the record, most of my reads are null because a lot of people have barely said anything, but I do have a few null-town, null-scum, and one scum read.
MBomb
MBomb
Not voting for him yet though because there's a wagon on him and as you all know, I hate jumping on wagons most of the time without complete faith in my read, which I don't entirely yet.
MBomb
MBomb
Mainly due to his lack of posting.

(Sorry for so many posts at once by the way, thoughts coming in parts rip)
Sakura
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Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.14

Frostings (3) - sLaiNi, Amianki
Ace Timing (3) - Zexion, Drezi, Setsuen
sLaiNi (2) - pieguy1372, Navizel
rEdo (1) - fartownik
Setsuen (1) - Haneii
- Magic Bomb - (1) - Frostings

Not Voting (3) - - Magic Bomb -, rEdo, Ace Timing

With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

As of this point the scum team are either Ace+MB+Haneii for me
"I think MB is in the scum team, but don't focus on MB" wut, that logic makes literally 0 sense. If I was scum as you seem to think, dropping focus on me entirely would be stupid. This comment alone makes me just think you're scum who's trying to pin blame on me if you get lynched, as you've essentially just said "Don't focus on the person you're reading as scum".

I might post reads soon, if anyone's interested.[/quote]

Stop trying to twist my word scum. I had a better scum read on Haneii than you and I was questioning why Drezi wasn't even focusing on Haneii when he had much more scum points. That and the fact that we can just lynch Ace and if he flips scum YOU'RE ALMOST 100% certain to be scum. by means of association.

Did you see me dropping my focus on Haneii entirely AFTER he asked me to give him my scum reads? no. but 10/01 nice try scum.

Also
> scum who's trying to pin blame on me if you get lynched

I hope you know Miler only show up guilty on cop report. I still flip town if I die. Also anyone who played long enough should know that "pinning blame on others"while being lynched as scum means literally almost NOTHING unless I'm town. So nice possible slip you scum.

Also >Still trying to say lynch to me on D1 after my past games 10/10.
MBomb
MBomb

Setsuen wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

As of this point the scum team are either Ace+MB+Haneii for me
"I think MB is in the scum team, but don't focus on MB" wut, that logic makes literally 0 sense. If I was scum as you seem to think, dropping focus on me entirely would be stupid. This comment alone makes me just think you're scum who's trying to pin blame on me if you get lynched, as you've essentially just said "Don't focus on the person you're reading as scum".

I might post reads soon, if anyone's interested.
Stop trying to twist my word scum. I had a better scum read on Haneii than you and I was questioning why Drezi wasn't even focusing on Haneii when he had much more scum points. That and the fact that we can just lynch Ace and if he flips scum YOU'RE ALMOST 100% certain to be scum. by means of association.

Did you see me dropping my focus on Haneii entirely AFTER he asked me to give him my scum reads? no. but 10/01 nice try scum.

Also
> scum who's trying to pin blame on me if you get lynched

I hope you know Miler only show up guilty on cop report. I still flip town if I die. Also anyone who played long enough should know that "pinning blame on others"while being lynched as scum means literally almost NOTHING unless I'm town. So nice possible slip you scum.

Also >Still trying to say lynch to me on D1 after my past games 10/10.[/quote]

..."Stop trying to twist my word" *twists words* 10/10 logic there
MBomb
MBomb
And of course I know you'd flip town if you were miller. I never even mentioned your miller claim there, and tbh I'm starting to doubt that claim.
MBomb
MBomb
Also, my scumread is a lot better of a lynch then you, you're still null to me, but going towards null-scum now.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

And of course I know you'd flip town if you were miller. I never even mentioned your miller claim there, and tbh I'm starting to doubt that claim.
The only one who care about my claim are scum as of this moment. bc town absolutely have no disadvantage if they decide to hunt and lynch all the scum until there's only one left before lynching me for my claim.
MBomb
MBomb
Also "If Ace flips scum, YOU'RE ALMOST 100% certain to be scum" ok why are we even questioning this anymore, fuck it, didn't want a lynch on him D1 but if he's gonna be this obvious, he's probably even more likely than my other reads.

Vote: Setsuen
MBomb
MBomb
Actually nevermind, put my vote on him then decided that's probably not right just yet, he'll get lynched in time anyway.

Unvote
MBomb
MBomb
If Setsuen is scum, I get the idea that Ace Timing will also be scum, because of that very obvious bussing, but for now I think there is a better lynch.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Also "If Ace flips scum, YOU'RE ALMOST 100% certain to be scum" ok why are we even questioning this anymore, fuck it, didn't want a lynch on him D1 but if he's gonna be this obvious, he's probably even more likely than my other reads.

Vote: Setsuen
k scum. You saved Ace when he was being pressured and you expect others not to be suspicious of you and now you're pulling what CB and Navizel did on D1 Lupus.

Not to mention that I already stated why Ace is probably scum but you of course choose to just vote me bc your scum team got outted. Desperate much?
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

If Setsuen is scum, I get the idea that Ace Timing will also be scum, because of that very obvious bussing, but for now I think there is a better lynch.
What gives you the idea that I would be dumb enough to HEAVILY bus my partner D1? and even if I did why aren't you mentioning YOURSELF as possible scum buddy or Haneii? Did you even read my ISO? bc a town would but a scum who is randomly commenting sure won't.
MBomb
MBomb

Setsuen wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Also "If Ace flips scum, YOU'RE ALMOST 100% certain to be scum" ok why are we even questioning this anymore, fuck it, didn't want a lynch on him D1 but if he's gonna be this obvious, he's probably even more likely than my other reads.

Vote: Setsuen
k scum. You saved Ace when he was being pressured and you expect others not to be suspicious of you and now you're pulling what CB and Navizel did on D1 Lupus.

Not to mention that I already stated why Ace is probably scum but you of course choose to just vote me bc your scum team got outted. Desperate much?
Calling someone desperate when you're literally grasping at straws as to not get scumread is very hypocritical, I'd recommend avoiding that. However, we have better lynches for now rather than you (Or even Ace, for that matter), and I just realised that we need 7 votes for a lynch to actually happen, it's not just based on maximums, and after reading the ISO earlier, I'm 99% sure of this now.

Vote: Frostings
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
Vote: Magic Bomb
MBomb
MBomb
Oh, and yes, I do expect someone to say OMGUS, but tbh, i don't care, it's so obvious it hurts.
MBomb
MBomb
Oh and what a surprise, the final of my 3 scum reads comes out to vote me as I vote for his partner. What a surprise.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
What a surprise, oh my.
MBomb
MBomb
If I do end up getting lynched, lynch Drezi first, then Frostings, then Setsuen. It's basically gg when the 3 scum are being so obvious.
MBomb
MBomb
I assumed one of the lurkers would be the 3rd scum tbh, but with Setsuen being so obvious, I'd be very surprised.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
I vote him and suddenly I'm the topscum :))
MBomb
MBomb
Oh and also, the reason for lynching Drezi before Frostings if I do get lynched is that Frostings might end up acting better once I'm dead, after all, his reasons for targetting me were utterly stupid, and he knows it.
MBomb
MBomb
If you were top scum, I'd vote you.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

[
Calling someone desperate when you're literally grasping at straws as to not get scumread is very hypocritical, I'd recommend avoiding that. However, we have better lynches for now rather than you (Or even Ace, for that matter), and I just realised that we need 7 votes for a lynch to actually happen, it's not just based on maximums, and after reading the ISO earlier, I'm 99% sure of this now.

Vote: Frostings
Yes 10/10 just randomly mention ace to look like you're actually responding to my post about me stating why I think Ace is scum when you're not actually doing it at all.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

If I do end up getting lynched, lynch Drezi first, then Frostings, then Setsuen. It's basically gg when the 3 scum are being so obvious.
The only one who can pull off being sarcastic and what not and STILL be town is me. Plz do better TY.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Oh and also, the reason for lynching Drezi before Frostings if I do get lynched is that Frostings might end up acting better once I'm dead, after all, his reasons for targetting me were utterly stupid, and he knows it.
Oh guess what. Navizel said the SAME THING TO ME IN A NEWBIE GAME AND TOWN DELAYED LYNCHING HIM UNTIL D3. 10/10
MBomb
MBomb
I see no sarcasm in my post. Do you understand the meaning of the word?
MBomb
MBomb
Also you seem to think I'm Navizel for some reason. Look at my name again.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I'm pretty sure you're town [Setsuen].

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

It seems like legitimate attempts to try to scumhunt

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

fuck it, didn't want a lynch on him D1 but if he's gonna be this obvious
Vote: Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I'm 99% sure of this now.
Vote: Frostings
The consistency.
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