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By the way, houses are determined first before roles so I don't get why would someone be scum because of their position. ???
I explained it somewhere, I might post a link to it later.Navizel wrote:
You tried to hide your role by voting?????
@mod, do we only get to detect adjacent neighbors if we didn't do anything?
But you're the one who's asking "Why N1" ,Setsuen might be baiting blah blah blah. I find it more suspicious why you're making me repeat myself.Haneii wrote:
I'm not debating over whether or not its a good idea to "cop" him (however bomb made a good point about a role cop). It's the fact that he keeps mentioning over and over again how no will bother to target him (particularly N1 for some reason). Its pretty much a theme in all his posts (and no it's not because someone keeps bringing it up, because he makes a point of repeating himself).
Not my fault people don't get it.Drezi wrote:
I think repeating stuff over and over is a theme of Setsuen himself
and now you vote me. AFTER you made me repeat myself. Scum much?Haneii wrote:
I doubt there will be more than one double voter today.
vote: setsuen
Topic Starter
Yes, you only hear stuff if you take No Action (or your role doesn't have any active night abilties so you wouldn't be able to take action anyway)Navizel wrote:
@mod, do we only get to detect adjacent neighbors if we didn't do anything?
Vote Count 1.09
Frostings (3) - sLaiNi, Amianki
sLaiNi (3) - pieguy1372, Frostings, Navizel
rEdo (2) - fartownik, Setsuen
Ace Timing (2) - Zexion, Drezi
Setsuen (1) - Haneii
Not Voting (3) - Ace Timing, - Magic Bomb -, rEdo
With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
Frostings (3) - sLaiNi, Amianki
sLaiNi (3) - pieguy1372, Frostings, Navizel
rEdo (2) - fartownik, Setsuen
Ace Timing (2) - Zexion, Drezi
Setsuen (1) - Haneii
Not Voting (3) - Ace Timing, - Magic Bomb -, rEdo
With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
also FYI most of Haneii post are about him not trusting me bc of possible WIFOM and my claim. But if you look closely into the intention behind his post he's just trying to "passively"point town into the direction of MLing on me which is what a scum would do.(and Haneii obv haven't seen Lapus)
I am so going to heavily check whichever scum is dumb enough to side with Haneei on my BW.
I am so going to heavily check whichever scum is dumb enough to side with Haneei on my BW.
Sorry for being suspicious over the fact that you're taunting PRs. Not to mention your fascination with N1 (in a game that looks like it roles are day specific. Are you even a miller? Is your role day specific?)
Or night specific?
MBomb
MBomb
What makes you think that was RVS? We're already over it so please began submitting actual content... maybe by submiting a vote for starters?Ace Timing wrote:
is that RVS or naw?
Yeah sure. I think you could get in trouble for this statement... Drezi beat me to it, but stop using previous games already. Meta seems to be always your only argument to do anything.Setsuen wrote:
That and I don't fake roleclaim. Unless of course no one wants to remember that UPick where i claimed my exact role.
Can you rewrite this? I swear I didn't get half of it. ML-ing? BW?Setsuen wrote:
also FYI most of Haneii post are about him not trusting me bc of possible WIFOM and my claim. But if you look closely into the intention behind his post he's just trying to "passively"point town into the direction of MLing on me which is what a scum would do.(and Haneii obv haven't seen Lapus)
I am so going to heavily check whichever scum is dumb enough to side with Haneei on my BW.
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I hope that rEdo's didn't notice Ace's lack of contribution when he posted or else I'll have to worry.
We all should drop the Miller claim for now. It's obvious that we won't get anything out of it right now and while it does bring a good lot of WIFOM (man, and it's already setsuen so its like WIFOM^2) I don't think we can do anything about this right now. Night-specific miller sounds kinda bastard and I seriously think we should discard it.
Can someone explain me the case on Slaini? Too much setup-spec?
I don't know. I just don't like it. I don't think it would help town to waste a night on a claimed miller when there are others which is more suspicious than Setsuen.Amianki wrote:
What exactly is wrong with my statement?
"Taunting" when I'm just stating facts. Yeah right.Haneii wrote:
Sorry for being suspicious over the fact that you're taunting PRs. Not to mention your fascination with N1 (in a game that looks like it roles are day specific. Are you even a miller? Is your role day specific?)
and you're yet again CONTINUING the argument by saying Äre you even Miller". This is like an obvious bait to start an neverending argument with me so that it looks like you're actually doing something when you're obviously not.
Simple. Haneii is trying to start up a mislynch on me by voting me based off that fact that I claimed miller and was "taunting" the PRs. He obviously wants his scum buddy to somehow join in to start a bandwagon on me.Zexion wrote:
Can you rewrite this? I swear I didn't get half of it. ML-ing? BW?
bc one double voter claim = everyone is probably day specific roles. Thanks Haneii. I make assumption about whether people would target me N1 and you try so hard to lynch me and now you're making your own assumption.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Just wondering, how does this game look like its roles are day specific?
Or I could actually be Town PR and Haneii is baiting me to out my real role. Makes you wonder why Haneii is trying so hard to tunnel on me when 1.It's difficult to get a mislynch off me D1 bc of possible WIFOM anyway and 2.My possible WIFOM rekt mafia(in this case invaders) when I am town.Zexion wrote:
We all should drop the Miller claim for now. It's obvious that we won't get anything out of it right now and while it does bring a good lot of WIFOM (man, and it's already setsuen so its like WIFOM^2) I don't think we can do anything about this right now. Night-specific miller sounds kinda bastard and I seriously think we should discard it.
Why are people still pointlessly discussing my claim and whether investigative role should check me? You're just letting scum just lurk and post some stupid post about whether my claim is believable z.zNavizel wrote:
I don't know. I just don't like it. I don't think it would help town to waste a night on a claimed miller when there are others which is more suspicious than Setsuen.
Current FOS:Haneii(bc of his determination in trying to ML on me) and possible fartownik bc "I trust his claim" is something Sephibro pulled off before. That and fartownik hasn't posted for 32hrs.
Sorry for the inactivity, I've been out for a bit but when I get back I should be able to post more, the replacing put thing was a joke about how in a previous game someone mentioned wanting to see Jess and Setsuen in the same game, not me actually wanting to replace out. I actually liked playing scum in that other game btw for whoever said something about how I didn't like it and I want to replace out.
Miller is an anti-town role that is one of the biggest WIFOM-magnets you can have in a game. Just being able to determine whether it's true or not will basically save us a lynch by itself since miller claims are a PL if they stay alive and unconfirmed.Navizel wrote:
I don't know. I just don't like it. I don't think it would help town to waste a night on a claimed miller when there are others which is more suspicious than Setsuen.Amianki wrote:
What exactly is wrong with my statement?
Except that the only person who can truly clear me as town is a ROLE cop and we aren't even sure if there is one.Amianki wrote:
Miller is an anti-town role that is one of the biggest WIFOM-magnets you can have in a game. Just being able to determine whether it's true or not will basically save us a lynch by itself since miller claims are a PL if they stay alive and unconfirmed.
@Mod:Time to add Navizel's ISO
Navi's ISO: search.php?author_id=780635&t=356881
Is there even a point in investigating a miller claim? Either way it'll turn up mafia, don't see what could come of investigating it.
In light of this revelation
vote: Amianki
vote: Amianki
MBomb
In what way would it help if I tell you?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Also, sLaiNi, are you doublevoter just for today?
MBomb
Yeah, which means that a cop can't determine whether a Miller is true or not.Ace Timing wrote:
Is there even a point in investigating a miller claim? Either way it'll turn up mafia, don't see what could come of investigating it.
- Magic Bomb - wrote:
I want an answer before I say.
I guess theres no need in hiding it.
No, I am not limited to a single day.
sLaiNi are you town
MBomb
Yes.Navizel wrote:
sLaiNi are you town
Did you hope to get an answer like "maybe"?
That's what I wanted to say there xD- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Navizel this isn't Jess :^(Navizel wrote:
sLaiNi are you town
Topic Starter
Vote Count 1.10
Frostings (3) - sLaiNi, Amianki
sLaiNi (3) - pieguy1372, Frostings, Navizel
rEdo (2) - fartownik, Setsuen
Ace Timing (2) - Zexion, Drezi
Setsuen (1) - Haneii
Amianki (1) - Ace Timing
Not Voting (2) - - Magic Bomb -, rEdo
With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
Wouldn't a tree have a lot of worms and birds around?Frostings (3) - sLaiNi, Amianki
sLaiNi (3) - pieguy1372, Frostings, Navizel
rEdo (2) - fartownik, Setsuen
Ace Timing (2) - Zexion, Drezi
Setsuen (1) - Haneii
Amianki (1) - Ace Timing
Not Voting (2) - - Magic Bomb -, rEdo
With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
There may be several doublevoters in this game but at least we know only one can use theirs this day. Or maybe the others are not automatic? Idk.
Unvote
I can't get any solid reads on people right now (I know, pretending to be active without actually doing anything)
I'll write down what I think so far at least.
sLaiNi seems a little townish to me, he seems open-minded a bit, though it's my first game with him so I'll be careful
Navi seemingly trying to take charge of this game, quite different from his other games. Maybe because of this post:
Amianki with his unexplained vote like always, and Setsuen...being Setsuen
Vote: Magic Bomb
I can't get any solid reads on people right now (I know, pretending to be active without actually doing anything)
I'll write down what I think so far at least.
sLaiNi seems a little townish to me, he seems open-minded a bit, though it's my first game with him so I'll be careful
Navi seemingly trying to take charge of this game, quite different from his other games. Maybe because of this post:
MB playing typical cautious town again, similar to his scum play from our last game.Setsuen wrote:
MagicBomb confirm no play enough game with scum Navizel.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Tbh most of the games I've seen of rEdo he doesn't exactly post much, so this isn't a good reason to vote him, imo, at least not yet.
Amianki with his unexplained vote like always, and Setsuen...being Setsuen
Vote: Magic Bomb
@Setsuen: I am just gonna leave someone else to clean up your roles because my head is hurting for trying to go trought those layers of WIFOM. Haneii's point is valid about you being so obssesive about N1 and how everyone should not use any powers on you. That is a fact.
Off-game: Sorry if sounded rude when addresing you before e_e
I would really like farto, rEdo and pie to come and talk a bit more. I'm getting paranoid already.
Please explain this. Where's this revelation? Since no one asked it must have been obvious yet I missed it.Ace Timing wrote:
In light of this revelation
vote: Amianki
Off-game: Sorry if sounded rude when addresing you before e_e
Is this how people scumhunt now?Navizel wrote:
sLaiNi are you town
I would really like farto, rEdo and pie to come and talk a bit more. I'm getting paranoid already.
Zexion wrote:
Please explain this. Where's this revelation? Since no one asked it must have been obvious yet I missed it.
Ace Timing wrote:
Is there even a point in investigating a miller claim? Either way it'll turn up mafia, don't see what could come of investigating it.
The revelation is realizing that there's no point in a cop should investigate a miller claim, but Amianki suggests it here: p/4424562.Ace Timing wrote:
In light of this revelation
vote: Amianki
I didn't however know about the existence of rolecops at the time, but I am inclined to believe that the cop in this game is vanilla, as I see no reason to include miller if you have a rolecop. But I may be proven wrong.
I wasn't in this game when this was posted, was I?Frostings wrote:
Unvote
I can't get any solid reads on people right now (I know, pretending to be active without actually doing anything)
I'll write down what I think so far at least.
sLaiNi seems a little townish to me, he seems open-minded a bit, though it's my first game with him so I'll be careful
Navi seemingly trying to take charge of this game, quite different from his other games. Maybe because of this post:MB playing typical cautious town again, similar to his scum play from our last game.Setsuen wrote:
MagicBomb confirm no play enough game with scum Navizel.
Amianki with his unexplained vote like always, and Setsuen...being Setsuen
Vote: Magic Bomb
@Setsuen and Frostings, I haven't played with you two in a long time. Just a question: Have you two seen my recent games or do you still think I'm the same as before? Just wondering.
wasn't in the game yet*
Setsuen is going with meta again? lol
Setsuen is going with meta again? lol
well, you don't have to be in the game beforehand in order to read the post
also uhhh seems I confused you with someone else in a previous game, MY BAD
It actually has been quite a while since we were in the same game, welcome Navi
also uhhh seems I confused you with someone else in a previous game, MY BAD
It actually has been quite a while since we were in the same game, welcome Navi
Anyways, everyone hop on my wagon against easy scumread MB
I have free cookies
I have free cookies
Yeah, guys I still think Ace is a good lynch.
It doesn't really make a difference whether you actually liked your last game or not, the point is you had difficulty actually contributing. Your posts were mostly filler jokes, remarks and excuses, and it's no different here.
The miller thing has been talked to death, and now all you have to say is repeat that, and vote Amianki, when he didn't even suggest copping Setsuen obviously. Also in the Hoenn game we had a rolecop (aswell as a normal cop), and we've talked about rolecops here aswell before your vote, and you're saying you weren't aware of the existence of such a role...
It doesn't really make a difference whether you actually liked your last game or not, the point is you had difficulty actually contributing. Your posts were mostly filler jokes, remarks and excuses, and it's no different here.
The miller thing has been talked to death, and now all you have to say is repeat that, and vote Amianki, when he didn't even suggest copping Setsuen obviously. Also in the Hoenn game we had a rolecop (aswell as a normal cop), and we've talked about rolecops here aswell before your vote, and you're saying you weren't aware of the existence of such a role...
Sorry for not posting, I have been busy again. I will try to catch up later today.
Its not even that I'm not contributing or anything, I literally had two posts and was away from the computer the entire day, and you voted me. I try and satisfy the people asking me vote, and you find that scummy.
You claim I'm not contributing, but I haven't contributed in any game I've been in except the newbie game, and I'm literally just not posting. There are other people who aren't contributing just as much as me, such as farto. But you focus on me over a fucking joke. It's really stupid, and it bothers me. It was even mentioned in either the Hoenn or GIM game that it would be interesting if Jess and Setsuen where put in the same game. I was simply making a reference to that, it has nothing to do with my level of contribution or quality of posts here, a simple joke. I was at a library the entire day today and basically could not post, as posting from the phone is just a pain. And I don't think I've made any reaction jokes other than my confirm which is completely fucking unrelated to my alignment. You're just finding something to lynch me on over nothing really. It's a bother having to deal with people like that, cause when you make an actual response to satisfy them, they just find more and more problems until it leads to a mislynch or being driven to roleclaim at L-1 to discover they were a cop or doctor and then the PR gets lost over something completely fucking meaningless. Someone will probably find some problem with this little rant and it will lead absolutely fucking nowhere and it just wastes time. It's really frustrating to be constantly scumread, but its even more aggravating when you get scumread over something stupid like a joke post. At least I fucking know now that joke posts are inherently scummy and I should probably never make any ever again. Great lesson sensei, I will cherish this one.
You claim I'm not contributing, but I haven't contributed in any game I've been in except the newbie game, and I'm literally just not posting. There are other people who aren't contributing just as much as me, such as farto. But you focus on me over a fucking joke. It's really stupid, and it bothers me. It was even mentioned in either the Hoenn or GIM game that it would be interesting if Jess and Setsuen where put in the same game. I was simply making a reference to that, it has nothing to do with my level of contribution or quality of posts here, a simple joke. I was at a library the entire day today and basically could not post, as posting from the phone is just a pain. And I don't think I've made any reaction jokes other than my confirm which is completely fucking unrelated to my alignment. You're just finding something to lynch me on over nothing really. It's a bother having to deal with people like that, cause when you make an actual response to satisfy them, they just find more and more problems until it leads to a mislynch or being driven to roleclaim at L-1 to discover they were a cop or doctor and then the PR gets lost over something completely fucking meaningless. Someone will probably find some problem with this little rant and it will lead absolutely fucking nowhere and it just wastes time. It's really frustrating to be constantly scumread, but its even more aggravating when you get scumread over something stupid like a joke post. At least I fucking know now that joke posts are inherently scummy and I should probably never make any ever again. Great lesson sensei, I will cherish this one.
Wow, that huge overreaction. I never even said anything about your play in the Hoenn game. I don't even think I need to finish reading this.
unvote
Last fucking time I ever vote someone who isn't obv scum.
Last fucking time I ever vote someone who isn't obv scum.
There literally aren't even any filler jokes, or remarks in my ISO past the goddamn confirm. Only one, which you scum read me off of. Tess made a similar reference in the last game, and I tried to get her lynched as mafia, awfully similar to what you're doing now.Drezi wrote:
It doesn't really make a difference whether you actually liked your last game or not, the point is you had difficulty actually contributing. Your posts were mostly filler jokes, remarks and excuses, and it's no different here.
The miller conversation was still going on during the time of my post and there's really nothing else to talk about, it's even continued afterwards and I see nothing wrong with talking about one of the only two roleclaims in the game.Drezi wrote:
The miller thing has been talked to death, and now all you have to say is repeat that, and vote Amianki, when he didn't even suggest copping Setsuen obviously.
I don't remember the existence of a rolecop in the Hoenn game, I remember me being vanilla cop, but that's it.Drezi wrote:
Also in the Hoenn game we had a rolecop (aswell as a normal cop), and we've talked about rolecops here aswell before your vote, and you're saying you weren't aware of the existence of such a role...
Nothing in my rant contains anything concerning my play in Hoenn.Drezi wrote:
Wow, that huge overreaction. I never even said anything about your play in the Hoenn game. I don't even think I need to finish reading this.
You can disregard the Hoenn part, I misread it as you saying that I claim you haven't contributed there.
MBomb
MBomb
MBomb
On the other hand I agree with this post a lot, judging him based on joke posts is not really a good idea, he's not contributed much at all, but at the same time, neither have a few other people in this game. Whilst this feels like an overreaction, I don't really get any feels that he is scum from this post, the way it's worded makes me feel like he is town.Ace Timing wrote:
Its not even that I'm not contributing or anything, I literally had two posts and was away from the computer the entire day, and you voted me. I try and satisfy the people asking me vote, and you find that scummy.
You claim I'm not contributing, but I haven't contributed in any game I've been in except the newbie game, and I'm literally just not posting. There are other people who aren't contributing just as much as me, such as farto. But you focus on me over a fucking joke. It's really stupid, and it bothers me. It was even mentioned in either the Hoenn or GIM game that it would be interesting if Jess and Setsuen where put in the same game. I was simply making a reference to that, it has nothing to do with my level of contribution or quality of posts here, a simple joke. I was at a library the entire day today and basically could not post, as posting from the phone is just a pain. And I don't think I've made any reaction jokes other than my confirm which is completely fucking unrelated to my alignment. You're just finding something to lynch me on over nothing really. It's a bother having to deal with people like that, cause when you make an actual response to satisfy them, they just find more and more problems until it leads to a mislynch or being driven to roleclaim at L-1 to discover they were a cop or doctor and then the PR gets lost over something completely fucking meaningless. Someone will probably find some problem with this little rant and it will lead absolutely fucking nowhere and it just wastes time. It's really frustrating to be constantly scumread, but its even more aggravating when you get scumread over something stupid like a joke post. At least I fucking know now that joke posts are inherently scummy and I should probably never make any ever again. Great lesson sensei, I will cherish this one.
Topic Starter
Vote Count 1.11
Frostings (3) - sLaiNi, Amianki
sLaiNi (2) - pieguy1372, Navizel
rEdo (2) - fartownik, Setsuen
Ace Timing (2) - Zexion, Drezi
Setsuen (1) - Haneii
- Magic Bomb - (1) - Frostings
Not Voting (3) - - Magic Bomb -, rEdo, Ace Timing
With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
Lots of arguing back and forth, nothing new...Frostings (3) - sLaiNi, Amianki
sLaiNi (2) - pieguy1372, Navizel
rEdo (2) - fartownik, Setsuen
Ace Timing (2) - Zexion, Drezi
Setsuen (1) - Haneii
- Magic Bomb - (1) - Frostings
Not Voting (3) - - Magic Bomb -, rEdo, Ace Timing
With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
That's Setsuen for you. He can be pretty much fucking anything. Be it scum, town, my mom or any other alignment, he'll keep rambling on stupid things in his posts. We all should just drop the miller claim, honestly. Trying to figure that out earlier than D2 will bring us nothing but frustration.Drezi wrote:
I think repeating stuff over and over is a theme of Setsuen himself
Does that mean you're townreading Setsuen? Why?Navizel wrote:
I don't know. I just don't like it. I don't think it would help town to waste a night on a claimed miller when there are others which is more suspicious than Setsuen.Amianki wrote:
What exactly is wrong with my statement?
Tell me how she would know that you're fakeclaiming miller. Or maybe you're just not a miller in the end?Setsuen wrote:
Or I could actually be Town PR and Haneii is baiting me to out my real role. Makes you wonder why Haneii is trying so hard to tunnel on me when 1.It's difficult to get a mislynch off me D1 bc of possible WIFOM anyway and 2.My possible WIFOM rekt mafia(in this case invaders) when I am town.
Nah, when I firstly read the thread the only people that stood out to me were sLaiNi leaning null-scum and Amianki leaning town. If we were to scumread people that don't contribute, we would end up putting almost an half of the players in the scum tier.Zexion wrote:
I hope that rEdo's didn't notice Ace's lack of contribution when he posted or else I'll have to worry.
Nice AtE. But you're right, I don't know why making jokes is any worse than being a total lurkfuckAce Timing wrote:
Stuff.
To figure it out you would first have to look at Haneii as scum. Then you realise that a few of you nicely pointed out that I am a huge WIFOM and therefore Haneii(as scum) would try to bait out my real role just in case I was WIFOMing about my Miller claim. I am still going to stand on my Miller claim. If scum wants to N1 me it's their loss.rEdo wrote:
Tell me how she would know that you're fakeclaiming miller. Or maybe you're just not a miller in the end?
Town-reading Navizel for now
While Zexion post lean towards town I am paranoid about other people who say things such as "Quality post" and "Is this how people scum hunt now" bc this is what scum usually say in EpicMafia z.z
pieguy is just a bad read right now. First they declare they're going to ignore me and now they're not responding after their "few hours"which is now 29hours.pieguy1372 wrote:
I actually need to do some other stuff and haven't read the past 3 pages in-depth. I'll be back in a few hours.
Slani just lean scum for based off the fact that they tried to go for me D1 like 95% of scums do when they first play against me.
Frosting and Drezi seem town but lets face it. There's always one scum who somehow manage to trick people into thinking that they're town.
FYI Navizel don't have to town read me to state that. I feel like you're twisting her words.rEdo wrote:
Does that mean you're townreading Setsuen? Why?
I suggest D1 lynch to be between Haeii,slani and the few other lurkers in this game.
MBomb
Seeing as no one has got it yet, you should probably just tell us now. I see no reason to hide it seeing as no one is trying to guess anymore.pieguy1372 wrote:
vote: sLaiNi
Zexion might also be scum. Drezi maybe town.
free town points to the first person who correctly guesses why I made this vote.
Just one other person atm, but I'd like to see more posts before I say anything.Drezi wrote:
Do you find any other people suspicious Haneii?
Looking at the nightingale game, and considering we don't have an Alice in Wonderland flavour or neighborhoods, I think this game draws inspiration from the roles (ie: day specific voters, night specific vigs, non-consecutive night cops etc).- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Just wondering, how does this game look like its roles are day specific?Haneii wrote:
Sorry for being suspicious over the fact that you're taunting PRs. Not to mention your fascination with N1 (in a game that looks like it roles are day specific.)
Just a lot of setup speculation/assumptions.
@Setsuen: What do you think of rEdo?
>herSetsuen wrote:
FYI Navizel don't have to town read me to state that. I feel like you're twisting her words.
why you do this
Topic Starter
Vote Count 1.12
Frostings (3) - sLaiNi, Amianki
sLaiNi (2) - pieguy1372, Navizel
rEdo (2) - fartownik, Setsuen
Ace Timing (2) - Zexion, Drezi
Setsuen (1) - Haneii
- Magic Bomb - (1) - Frostings
Not Voting (3) - - Magic Bomb -, rEdo, Ace Timing
With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
Frostings (3) - sLaiNi, Amianki
sLaiNi (2) - pieguy1372, Navizel
rEdo (2) - fartownik, Setsuen
Ace Timing (2) - Zexion, Drezi
Setsuen (1) - Haneii
- Magic Bomb - (1) - Frostings
Not Voting (3) - - Magic Bomb -, rEdo, Ace Timing
With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
Irrelevant filler post whining about gender when there is girl avi.Navizel wrote:
why you do this
rEdo is null. rEdo's post can be scum trying to look like they're doing something by talking about me or town who generally just state the obvious things about me.Haneii wrote:
@Setsuen: What do you think of rEdo?
For example:
is quite neutral bc either scum or town could have asked it to either benefit them if they're scum bc WIFOM or to clear up uncertainty if they are town depending on the answer Sakura gave.rEdo wrote:
Nice point, by the way. I like the fact you're cautious.
Now when I think about this, scum could be selecting kills so they can scumpaint people. Let's say scum is in [7], then the team could kill [6] and [8] and say "hey, [7] is completety unhearable nao, scum pls b0ss!!!!".
@Mod: In the first place does the invaders have day chat.
Topic Starter
I can't answer this question.Setsuen wrote:
@Mod: In the first place does the invaders have day chat.
Okay I'm just not going to bother just like I did before. Whatever.
@rEdo: what do you think of setsuen's null read of you? Would you say it was expected or would you have thought he'd read you differently?
nice attempt at townslip :^)Setsuen wrote:
@Mod: In the first place does the invaders have day chat.
Nice attempt at filler post to make it seem like you're actually doing something.Frostings wrote:
nice attempt at townslip :^)
Also oddly enough you were quite "passive"about my claim and didn't try to stop people from continuing the senseless discussion on how valid my claim was despite the fact that you're more active than majority of the current players. Were you perhaps hoping to EXTEND the discussion of my role so that you can fake that you're doing something by randomly accusing other people?
That and your post towards me are neutral which only mean one thing to me:Possible scum who tries to avoid any 1v1 with me by only posting neutral comment bc if not they might be lynched.
I can probably come up with a few reasons why I can scum read everyone here. My paranoia is good.
You're suppose to be searching for scum, not trying to come up with fuel to scum paint EVERYONE.Setsuen wrote:
I can probably come up with a few reasons why I can scum read everyone here.
Saying that, I still would love to hear all the scummy things everyone in this game has done so far. Would definitely be helpful to see it from your view (considering I'm getting more town and null reads than scum).
miller claim doesn't do much except spread wifom, which is why I didn't really get into itSetsuen wrote:
Nice attempt at filler post to make it seem like you're actually doing something.
Also oddly enough you were quite "passive"about my claim and didn't try to stop people from continuing the senseless discussion on how valid my claim was despite the fact that you're more active than majority of the current players.
Uh, nope? But that's a cute theorySetsuen wrote:
Were you perhaps hoping to EXTEND the discussion of my role so that you can fake that you're doing something by randomly accusing other people?
I think everyone, regardless of alignment, will try to avoid ANY 1v1 with you SetsuenSetsuen wrote:
Possible scum who tries to avoid any 1v1 with me by only posting neutral comment bc if not they might be lynched.
You're going to regret saying that veeeery soonHaneii wrote:
Saying that, I still would love to hear all the scummy things everyone in this game has done so far. Would definitely be helpful to see it from your view (considering I'm getting more town and null reads than scum).
I'm going to sleep so lets start with MagicBomb
That said
@Mod:prod pieguy the noob
Now lets move on to the fact that MagicBomb has only responded to my post TWICE. one time on rEdo's activity level oddly enough and another was on the issue that I keep saying no one would target me N1 which lets face it was a pointless argument just based off the fact that I stating the fact about what happened in previous games. Then we move on to the fact that MagicBomb has targetted slani a lot which is QUITE SIMILAR to Frosting who started targeted MagicBomb. I seriously doubt it''s a new fad where people randomly FOS one person for the entire D1.
Amazing how Magic is still asking pie about this AFTER I stated that pie hasn't said anything for an ENTIRE DAY. Instead of asking the mod to prod pie.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Seeing as no one has got it yet, you should probably just tell us now. I see no reason to hide it seeing as no one is trying to guess anymore.
That said
@Mod:prod pieguy the noob
Pointless post and seriously this kind of post is what scum says a LOT in the hundreds of EpicMafia game I played. Guys don't lynch X they might be mafia. Guys there might be fool don't do this. 10/10- Magic Bomb - wrote:
why does this post give me the feeling we have a jester
Now lets move on to the fact that MagicBomb has only responded to my post TWICE. one time on rEdo's activity level oddly enough and another was on the issue that I keep saying no one would target me N1 which lets face it was a pointless argument just based off the fact that I stating the fact about what happened in previous games. Then we move on to the fact that MagicBomb has targetted slani a lot which is QUITE SIMILAR to Frosting who started targeted MagicBomb. I seriously doubt it''s a new fad where people randomly FOS one person for the entire D1.
Stop lying. We all know what CB and Navizel did D1 on Lupus. They even tried 2V1.Frostings wrote:
I think everyone, regardless of alignment, will try to avoid ANY 1v1 with you Setsuen
FOS Ace. Feels like Ace is acting ignorant of the fact that Amianki said cop(but actually meant role cop). Not to mention the fact that I stated ROLE cop AFTER Amianki's post. Attempt at trying to fake newbie town found. That and this could be an attempt for the invaders to generate USELESS discussion for them to talk about or to bait town to talk about more useless stuff like Ï think he meant role cop"Ace Timing wrote:
Is there even a point in investigating a miller claim? Either way it'll turn up mafia, don't see what could come of investigating it.
Just based off the fact that if Ace is scum, it would not have taken long for us to lynch him/her off D1 bc easy scum slip would occur with enough votes on them. However MagicBomb kind of saved him so if Ace do flip scum, MagicBomb is next. At the same time Amianki probably has a different alignment from Ace just based off what Ace said bc I don't trust faked ignorance.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
On the other hand I agree with this post a lot, judging him based on joke posts is not really a good idea, he's not contributed much at all, but at the same time, neither have a few other people in this game. Whilst this feels like an overreaction, I don't really get any feels that he is scum from this post, the way it's worded makes me feel like he is town.
This is scummy too fyi. I have lynched Navizel like TWICE and HE(thanks Navizel, too bad I prob won't remember next game) flipped scum just bc I went onto him hard for his super lurk(which btw he whined and dnied that he was lurking) Whining about contribution is a huge scum tell for me, Esp after the UPick where people FOSed scum me for whining and not posting much as I used to.Ace Timing wrote:
There are other people who aren't contributing just as much as me, such as farto. But you focus on me over a fucking joke. It's really stupid, and it bothers me.
Topic Starter
pieguy1372 has been prodded!Setsuen wrote:
@Mod:prod pieguy the noob
MBomb
Whether someone has posted for an entire day or not, does not change the fact that they can read through the thread when they are here, and answer the question, it's not like if he answers a day later it's gonna affect his reason.Setsuen wrote:
I'm going to sleep so lets start with MagicBombAmazing how Magic is still asking pie about this AFTER I stated that pie hasn't said anything for an ENTIRE DAY. Instead of asking the mod to prod pie.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Seeing as no one has got it yet, you should probably just tell us now. I see no reason to hide it seeing as no one is trying to guess anymore.
That said
@Mod:prod pieguy the noob
His wording was god awful, I even explained how afterwards. This post wasn't even intending to be meant as "he's a jester", as I'm pretty sure there is no jester in this game, it was more "Am I the only one noticing the god awful wording here"Setsuen wrote:
Pointless post and seriously this kind of post is what scum says a LOT in the hundreds of EpicMafia game I played. Guys don't lynch X they might be mafia. Guys there might be fool don't do this. 10/10- Magic Bomb - wrote:
why does this post give me the feeling we have a jester
Erm... when have I targetted slalni at all? All I've done is ask him whether his doublevote was just for today or whether it was all time, which could be very bad for town in future days if we didn't know.Setsuen wrote:
Then we move on to the fact that MagicBomb has targetted slani a lot which is QUITE SIMILAR to Frosting who started targeted MagicBomb. I seriously doubt it''s a new fad where people randomly FOS one person for the entire D1.
You seem to be making an attempt to read the game, but at the same time, your scumhunting ability is being kinda slowed down by your paranoia. Don't read everyone as scum, not everyone is scum. Rather than going through your reasons for scum reading every person however, could we just have a list of the most suspicious to least? Then we can just ask if we want to know the reasonings for your suspicions on a specific person.
i should be around in a few hours for real this time
lolAce Timing wrote:
unvote
Last fucking time I ever vote someone who isn't obv scum.
Yeah, I asked you to use your vote but why would you vote someone who isn't obv scum to you? Normally, you would vote for the scummiest person to you.
lol
I saw a scummy thing and voted on it. Simple. Were you expecting me to join a random wagon or something?
*random should be preexisting probably. Probably.
Huh what? You said Amianki isn't obv scum and then you saw a scummy thing on him?
Also a friendly reminder that meta isn't everything
one scummy post doesn't necessarily mean obv scum.
huh
obv scum would be like constant scumminess over the entire game, everyone has one sus post, doesn't make them scum. Hence the use of the word obvious.
at least to me, you might have a different perception on what obv scum means.
quoting because why notDrezi wrote:
@sLaiNi: I really don't think hiding your passive doublevoting ability is a good idea as town, and you shouldn't want to just surprise hammer someone anyway.
I don't really agree with his thought process and behavior concerning his doublevoting ability at all, but looking at that only I didn't feel it was coming from scum.
What I didn't like is the exchange starting here: p/4424063
Farto tells Setsuen "LIES" and sLaiNi's sarcastic tone in the followup post gave me the impression that he doesn't really buy the claim either, yet when farto said he doesn't actually think Setsuen is lying, sLaiNi went on to agree "but still worth keeping an eye on" kinda taking a step back at the same time. So if you detailed your thoughts a bit more here sLaiNi, that'd be welcome.
Apparently I didn't post my thoughts regarding that exchange. This caught my eye as well and it's one of the reasons I'm voting sLaiNi.
So what are your reads currently? It just seems fishy that you voted someone who isn't obv scum to you.
So this was answered already. hahaha still though, keeping an eye on him is good :^)Navizel wrote:
quoting because why notDrezi wrote:
@sLaiNi: I really don't think hiding your passive doublevoting ability is a good idea as town, and you shouldn't want to just surprise hammer someone anyway.
I don't really agree with his thought process and behavior concerning his doublevoting ability at all, but looking at that only I didn't feel it was coming from scum.
What I didn't like is the exchange starting here: p/4424063
Farto tells Setsuen "LIES" and sLaiNi's sarcastic tone in the followup post gave me the impression that he doesn't really buy the claim either, yet when farto said he doesn't actually think Setsuen is lying, sLaiNi went on to agree "but still worth keeping an eye on" kinda taking a step back at the same time. So if you detailed your thoughts a bit more here sLaiNi, that'd be welcome.
Apparently I didn't post my thoughts regarding that exchange. This caught my eye as well and it's one of the reasons I'm voting sLaiNi.
I wanna hear more from farto and rEdo, and I'm almost completely ignoring Setsuen for now. He seems delusional with some posts tbh.
@Mod: are alignments chosen after role?
Not surprising. It's your first game with Setsuen after all.Ace Timing wrote:
I wanna hear more from farto and rEdo, and I'm almost completely ignoring Setsuen for now. He seems delusional with some posts tbh.
Oh, yeah, inb4 miller scumAce Timing wrote:
@Mod: are alignments chosen after role?
No, literally no one knows what CB and Navizel did D1 on Lupus actuallySetsuen wrote:
We all know what CB and Navizel did D1 on Lupus. They even tried 2V1.
Ace Timing wrote:
I'm almost completely ignoring Setsuen for now. He seems delusional with some posts tbh.
I'm pretty sure the entire point of getting into a pissing war with you on Lupus was to apathy out the game. I don't remember exactly what the cause of us getting lynched was, but I do remember thinking that you had less to do with it than you think.
I don't even remember what we did on Lupus lmao.
This is another post to remind everyone that meta is not everything. If it is, scums could just kill Setsuen N1 and then shift the blame on to me because I usually kill Setsuen N1.
This is another post to remind everyone that meta is not everything. If it is, scums could just kill Setsuen N1 and then shift the blame on to me because I usually kill Setsuen N1.
man, the content in this game sucks
town better step it up so we can start pressuring real lurkers and stop them from getting a free pass D1
The vote count is also trash, scum intentionally has the votes spread out so we don't pressure anyone
everyone take out your weak post-RVS votes and form a real wagon so we can actually move this game forward
I actually have a real reason for my vote on MB because EVERYONE townread him since the start of Day1 in the last game, and he got a free pass to endgame because he wasn't pressured ONCE
town better step it up so we can start pressuring real lurkers and stop them from getting a free pass D1
The vote count is also trash, scum intentionally has the votes spread out so we don't pressure anyone
everyone take out your weak post-RVS votes and form a real wagon so we can actually move this game forward
I actually have a real reason for my vote on MB because EVERYONE townread him since the start of Day1 in the last game, and he got a free pass to endgame because he wasn't pressured ONCE
Is that your reason, or will it be in another post? o.oFrostings wrote:
I actually have a real reason for my vote on MB because EVERYONE townread him since the start of Day1 in the last game, and he got a free pass to endgame because he wasn't pressured ONCE
You decided not to ask the mod to prod pieguy after my rant of him not being on for an entire day. If that is not suspicious what is?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Whether someone has posted for an entire day or not, does not change the fact that they can read through the thread when they are here, and answer the question, it's not like if he answers a day later it's gonna affect his reason.
Erm... when have I targetted slalni at all? All I've done is ask him whether his doublevote was just for today or whether it was all time, which could be very bad for town in future days if we didn't know.
You seem to be making an attempt to read the game, but at the same time, your scumhunting ability is being kinda slowed down by your paranoia. Don't read everyone as scum, not everyone is scum. Rather than going through your reasons for scum reading every person however, could we just have a list of the most suspicious to least? Then we can just ask if we want to know the reasonings for your suspicions on a specific person.
Also doesn't help that you asked in slani doublevote ability was today or not. It does not change the fact that you're focusing on people who claimed and are EASY to get a mislynch on(lets face it a lot of people were FOSing slani) and knowing whether slani can doublevote for the entire game is more beneficial for scum than town if slani is town due to the effects of WIFOM on scum.
Navizel. Please stop posting one liners that are almost useless to the game bc with each post my town read of you is dropping. But of course it seems that you're arguing with ace so either you're ace's scum buddy who is posting 1liners each to look like you're doing something or you got baited hard into going into a 1liner discussion with ace. Take your pick town.
They tried EXTREMELY hard to Mislynch me D1. Town overturned the lynch to Navizel when I was on like L-1 10/10Frostings wrote:
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No, literally no one knows what CB and Navizel did D1 on Lupus actually
Does not explain why town didn't lynch me off after I self voted and was like at L-1.Amianki wrote:
I'm pretty sure the entire point of getting into a pissing war with you on Lupus was to apathy out the game. I don't remember exactly what the cause of us getting lynched was, but I do remember thinking that you had less to do with it than you think.
You didn't in ChaosInDummyVille.Navizel wrote:
I don't even remember what we did on Lupus lmao.
This is another post to remind everyone that meta is not everything. If it is, scums could just kill Setsuen N1 and then shift the blame on to me because I usually kill Setsuen N1.
WE ARE LYNCHING ACE THEN. IF HE FLIPS SCUM WE LYNCH MB NEXT DUE TO MB SAVING ACE. GG I DID ITFrostings wrote:
man, the content in this game sucks
town better step it up so we can start pressuring real lurkers and stop them from getting a free pass D1
The vote count is also trash, scum intentionally has the votes spread out so we don't pressure anyone
everyone take out your weak post-RVS votes and form a real wagon so we can actually move this game forward
I actually have a real reason for my vote on MB because EVERYONE townread him since the start of Day1 in the last game, and he got a free pass to endgame because he wasn't pressured ONCE
Unvote
Vote:Ace Timing for using the same I am going to discredit Setsuen bc he's crazy move which WAYYY too much scum has used on me
MBomb
actually in my last game I got lynched D1 but ok i guessFrostings wrote:
I actually have a real reason for my vote on MB because EVERYONE townread him since the start of Day1 in the last game, and he got a free pass to endgame because he wasn't pressured ONCE
I don't really understand how not asking someone for a prod is suspicious in any way, whether I ask it or not, he will see the question, and if he doesn't respond, I will ask again. Asking one question isn't focusing, and in fact is not even relevant to a scum read on slalni in any way. Tbh I kinda forgot anyone was even suspicious of him, at this stage I'm not (Although the fact he's gone into lurk mode suddenly seems strange). Knowing whether Slalni can doublevote for the whole game is beneficial to town considering it means that if for some reason we have great suspicions of someone D2, a lot of people may vote at once, and if Slalni is one, then we could get an unintentional quick hammer, which would be very bad for town, as even if the person we lynch flips scum, we have less time to talk in general.Setsuen wrote:
You decided not to ask the mod to prod pieguy after my rant of him not being on for an entire day. If that is not suspicious what is?- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Whether someone has posted for an entire day or not, does not change the fact that they can read through the thread when they are here, and answer the question, it's not like if he answers a day later it's gonna affect his reason.
Erm... when have I targetted slalni at all? All I've done is ask him whether his doublevote was just for today or whether it was all time, which could be very bad for town in future days if we didn't know.
You seem to be making an attempt to read the game, but at the same time, your scumhunting ability is being kinda slowed down by your paranoia. Don't read everyone as scum, not everyone is scum. Rather than going through your reasons for scum reading every person however, could we just have a list of the most suspicious to least? Then we can just ask if we want to know the reasonings for your suspicions on a specific person.
Also doesn't help that you asked in slani doublevote ability was today or not. It does not change the fact that you're focusing on people who claimed and are EASY to get a mislynch on(lets face it a lot of people were FOSing slani) and knowing whether slani can doublevote for the entire game is more beneficial for scum than town if slani is town due to the effects of WIFOM on scum.
The problem with scum is they never look into the intention of their post before posting. The fact that you never did tell the mod to prod pieguy AFTER my complain about his 24hrs+ missing tells me that you had the intention to just "wait it out"(AKA Stalling) which is just what a scum would do. If you add in my paranoia, I also think you added that question in as a backup plan to look as if you're actually contributing to the discussion when you're not really doing it by asking someone who haven't responded to anything for a LONG TIME. That and when pie do respond which would have been a LONG TIME after if I havent'prod him, you can just keep asking question bc of the reason called:Lurk.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
I don't really understand how not asking someone for a prod is suspicious in any way, whether I ask it or not, he will see the question, and if he doesn't respond, I will ask again. Asking one question isn't focusing, and in fact is not even relevant to a scum read on slalni in any way. Tbh I kinda forgot anyone was even suspicious of him, at this stage I'm not (Although the fact he's gone into lurk mode suddenly seems strange). Knowing whether Slalni can doublevote for the whole game is beneficial to town considering it means that if for some reason we have great suspicions of someone D2, a lot of people may vote at once, and if Slalni is one, then we could get an unintentional quick hammer, which would be very bad for town, as even if the person we lynch flips scum, we have less time to talk in general.
Yes I can predict what scum do in advance TY.
slani won't quickhammer D2 if they're town if they dothey know they're going to be throwing the game bc we will lynch them D3 for that.knowing that slani can doublevote for the entire game is more BENEFICIAL for scum esp if slani is town bc 1.They can keep slani alive for WIFOM or to get a free ML off 2.If we keep slani alive, they can choose to kill her off bc of double vote ability or to keep her alive so that they can try to earn slani's trust so that if it ever gets to a near lylo situation, slani will side with them instead. So no, scum not knowing about whether slani ability is for the full game or not is more beneficial for town bc that means scum can't pull any tricks on us.
Also more scum points for Haneii for directing my suspicions to other players in order to avoid the hard 1v1 with me.
So why'd you vote me if you are universally recognized as WIFOM wall? I'm not the first to tell you that.
And your self-centered opinion that everything involving you is relevant to the game is really annoying. Like not everything is something scum is plotting against you. It's beyond paranoia and its a pain to deal with.
MBomb
I never said he would, I actually meant that there could be very quick votes in that case, and a hammer might be done without people realising Slalni had 2 votes, and him possibly forgetting to mention it.Setsuen wrote:
slani won't quickhammer D2 if they're town if they dothey know they're going to be throwing the game bc we will lynch them D3 for that.
Anyway, I'm just gonna end this discussion now, it seems to me your paranoia ends up making everything you read look more scummy. I'm pretty sure you're town at this stage, however your constant scumpainting of, as you said yourself, everybody, is kinda suspicious.
I have town reads. You just happened to be a scum read. You're not helping anyone town-read you by posting this to try and discredit me fyi.Ace Timing wrote:
And your self-centered opinion that everything involving you is relevant to the game is really annoying. Like not everything is something scum is plotting against you. It's beyond paranoia and its a pain to deal with.
Your faked ignorance of a lot of things also add on to the reason why you're probably scum.