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Setsuen
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Joined May 2013
Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Whether someone has posted for an entire day or not, does not change the fact that they can read through the thread when they are here, and answer the question, it's not like if he answers a day later it's gonna affect his reason.


Erm... when have I targetted slalni at all? All I've done is ask him whether his doublevote was just for today or whether it was all time, which could be very bad for town in future days if we didn't know.

You seem to be making an attempt to read the game, but at the same time, your scumhunting ability is being kinda slowed down by your paranoia. Don't read everyone as scum, not everyone is scum. Rather than going through your reasons for scum reading every person however, could we just have a list of the most suspicious to least? Then we can just ask if we want to know the reasonings for your suspicions on a specific person.
You decided not to ask the mod to prod pieguy after my rant of him not being on for an entire day. If that is not suspicious what is?
Also doesn't help that you asked in slani doublevote ability was today or not. It does not change the fact that you're focusing on people who claimed and are EASY to get a mislynch on(lets face it a lot of people were FOSing slani) and knowing whether slani can doublevote for the entire game is more beneficial for scum than town if slani is town due to the effects of WIFOM on scum.



Navizel. Please stop posting one liners that are almost useless to the game bc with each post my town read of you is dropping. But of course it seems that you're arguing with ace so either you're ace's scum buddy who is posting 1liners each to look like you're doing something or you got baited hard into going into a 1liner discussion with ace. Take your pick town.

Frostings wrote:

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No, literally no one knows what CB and Navizel did D1 on Lupus actually
They tried EXTREMELY hard to Mislynch me D1. Town overturned the lynch to Navizel when I was on like L-1 10/10

Amianki wrote:

I'm pretty sure the entire point of getting into a pissing war with you on Lupus was to apathy out the game. I don't remember exactly what the cause of us getting lynched was, but I do remember thinking that you had less to do with it than you think.
Does not explain why town didn't lynch me off after I self voted and was like at L-1.

Navizel wrote:

I don't even remember what we did on Lupus lmao.

This is another post to remind everyone that meta is not everything. If it is, scums could just kill Setsuen N1 and then shift the blame on to me because I usually kill Setsuen N1.
You didn't in ChaosInDummyVille.

Frostings wrote:

man, the content in this game sucks
town better step it up so we can start pressuring real lurkers and stop them from getting a free pass D1
The vote count is also trash, scum intentionally has the votes spread out so we don't pressure anyone

everyone take out your weak post-RVS votes and form a real wagon so we can actually move this game forward
I actually have a real reason for my vote on MB because EVERYONE townread him since the start of Day1 in the last game, and he got a free pass to endgame because he wasn't pressured ONCE
WE ARE LYNCHING ACE THEN. IF HE FLIPS SCUM WE LYNCH MB NEXT DUE TO MB SAVING ACE. GG I DID IT

Unvote
Vote:Ace Timing for using the same I am going to discredit Setsuen bc he's crazy move which WAYYY too much scum has used on me
MBomb
MBomb

Frostings wrote:

I actually have a real reason for my vote on MB because EVERYONE townread him since the start of Day1 in the last game, and he got a free pass to endgame because he wasn't pressured ONCE
actually in my last game I got lynched D1 but ok i guess

Setsuen wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Whether someone has posted for an entire day or not, does not change the fact that they can read through the thread when they are here, and answer the question, it's not like if he answers a day later it's gonna affect his reason.


Erm... when have I targetted slalni at all? All I've done is ask him whether his doublevote was just for today or whether it was all time, which could be very bad for town in future days if we didn't know.

You seem to be making an attempt to read the game, but at the same time, your scumhunting ability is being kinda slowed down by your paranoia. Don't read everyone as scum, not everyone is scum. Rather than going through your reasons for scum reading every person however, could we just have a list of the most suspicious to least? Then we can just ask if we want to know the reasonings for your suspicions on a specific person.
You decided not to ask the mod to prod pieguy after my rant of him not being on for an entire day. If that is not suspicious what is?
Also doesn't help that you asked in slani doublevote ability was today or not. It does not change the fact that you're focusing on people who claimed and are EASY to get a mislynch on(lets face it a lot of people were FOSing slani) and knowing whether slani can doublevote for the entire game is more beneficial for scum than town if slani is town due to the effects of WIFOM on scum.
I don't really understand how not asking someone for a prod is suspicious in any way, whether I ask it or not, he will see the question, and if he doesn't respond, I will ask again. Asking one question isn't focusing, and in fact is not even relevant to a scum read on slalni in any way. Tbh I kinda forgot anyone was even suspicious of him, at this stage I'm not (Although the fact he's gone into lurk mode suddenly seems strange). Knowing whether Slalni can doublevote for the whole game is beneficial to town considering it means that if for some reason we have great suspicions of someone D2, a lot of people may vote at once, and if Slalni is one, then we could get an unintentional quick hammer, which would be very bad for town, as even if the person we lynch flips scum, we have less time to talk in general.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I don't really understand how not asking someone for a prod is suspicious in any way, whether I ask it or not, he will see the question, and if he doesn't respond, I will ask again. Asking one question isn't focusing, and in fact is not even relevant to a scum read on slalni in any way. Tbh I kinda forgot anyone was even suspicious of him, at this stage I'm not (Although the fact he's gone into lurk mode suddenly seems strange). Knowing whether Slalni can doublevote for the whole game is beneficial to town considering it means that if for some reason we have great suspicions of someone D2, a lot of people may vote at once, and if Slalni is one, then we could get an unintentional quick hammer, which would be very bad for town, as even if the person we lynch flips scum, we have less time to talk in general.
The problem with scum is they never look into the intention of their post before posting. The fact that you never did tell the mod to prod pieguy AFTER my complain about his 24hrs+ missing tells me that you had the intention to just "wait it out"(AKA Stalling) which is just what a scum would do. If you add in my paranoia, I also think you added that question in as a backup plan to look as if you're actually contributing to the discussion when you're not really doing it by asking someone who haven't responded to anything for a LONG TIME. That and when pie do respond which would have been a LONG TIME after if I havent'prod him, you can just keep asking question bc of the reason called:Lurk.

Yes I can predict what scum do in advance TY.

slani won't quickhammer D2 if they're town if they dothey know they're going to be throwing the game bc we will lynch them D3 for that.knowing that slani can doublevote for the entire game is more BENEFICIAL for scum esp if slani is town bc 1.They can keep slani alive for WIFOM or to get a free ML off 2.If we keep slani alive, they can choose to kill her off bc of double vote ability or to keep her alive so that they can try to earn slani's trust so that if it ever gets to a near lylo situation, slani will side with them instead. So no, scum not knowing about whether slani ability is for the full game or not is more beneficial for town bc that means scum can't pull any tricks on us.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen
Also more scum points for Haneii for directing my suspicions to other players in order to avoid the hard 1v1 with me.
Ace Timing
4 posts
Joined October 2014
Ace Timing
So why'd you vote me if you are universally recognized as WIFOM wall? I'm not the first to tell you that.
Ace Timing
4 posts
Joined October 2014
Ace Timing
And your self-centered opinion that everything involving you is relevant to the game is really annoying. Like not everything is something scum is plotting against you. It's beyond paranoia and its a pain to deal with.
MBomb
MBomb

Setsuen wrote:

slani won't quickhammer D2 if they're town if they dothey know they're going to be throwing the game bc we will lynch them D3 for that.
I never said he would, I actually meant that there could be very quick votes in that case, and a hammer might be done without people realising Slalni had 2 votes, and him possibly forgetting to mention it.

Anyway, I'm just gonna end this discussion now, it seems to me your paranoia ends up making everything you read look more scummy. I'm pretty sure you're town at this stage, however your constant scumpainting of, as you said yourself, everybody, is kinda suspicious.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Ace Timing wrote:

And your self-centered opinion that everything involving you is relevant to the game is really annoying. Like not everything is something scum is plotting against you. It's beyond paranoia and its a pain to deal with.
I have town reads. You just happened to be a scum read. You're not helping anyone town-read you by posting this to try and discredit me fyi.

Your faked ignorance of a lot of things also add on to the reason why you're probably scum.
Ace Timing
4 posts
Joined October 2014
Ace Timing
Why would I care about someone town reading me if the point is to find scum?

Would you like to share your town reads?

I'm also not trying to discredit you. I'm stating that I will not be taking your posts very seriously for future reference. I'm not the first person to say that either.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Ace Timing wrote:

Why would I care about someone town reading me if the point is to find scum?

Would you like to share your town reads?

I'm also not trying to discredit you. I'm stating that I will not be taking your posts very seriously for future reference. I'm not the first person to say that either.

Setsuen wrote:

Town-reading Navizel for now
While Zexion post lean towards town I am paranoid about other people who say things such as "Quality post" and "Is this how people scum hunt now" bc this is what scum usually say in EpicMafia z.z


Frosting and Drezi seem town but lets face it. There's always one scum who somehow manage to trick people into thinking that they're town.
>You don't care if anyone is town-reading you or not
I guess you don't care about being lynched either.

Those who say that they're not going to care much are either scums or town baiting scum into a fight and I doubt you were baiting scum when you said that.
Ace Timing
4 posts
Joined October 2014
Ace Timing
sigh, I'm going to sleep now, and I have school tomorrow, so don't expect much from me tomorrow. Hopefully everyone will be able to say their piece about everything that's happened by the time I get home or bother to check this place.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi

Ace Timing wrote:

I wanna hear more from farto and rEdo, and I'm almost completely ignoring Setsuen for now. He seems delusional with some posts tbh.
I wanna hear more from YOU, other than you replying to people attacking you.

Ace Timing wrote:

So why'd you vote me if you are universally recognized as WIFOM wall? I'm not the first to tell you that.
Setsuen doing Setsuen stuff is way better, than you not posting anything about anyone else in the game.

Ace Timing wrote:

So why'd you vote me if you are universally recognized as WIFOM wall? I'm not the first to tell you that.
What do you mean here?

Ace Timing wrote:

I'm also not trying to discredit you. I'm stating that I will not be taking your posts very seriously for future reference. I'm not the first person to say that either.
You saying that you're not gonna take his posts seriously is like the definition of trying to discredit him... Setsuen's posting style is crazy, and can get annoying but there's no reason for town to decide to actually ignore him.

It sticks how you cover all your statements with "I'm not the only one to say this".
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
This was meant to be the second quote:

Ace Timing wrote:

your self-centered opinion that everything involving you is relevant to the game is really annoying. Like not everything is something scum is plotting against you. It's beyond paranoia and its a pain to deal with.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi

Frostings wrote:

I actually have a real reason for my vote on MB because EVERYONE townread him since the start of Day1 in the last game, and he got a free pass to endgame because he wasn't pressured ONCE
Yeah lol, it sure is gonna be some serious pressure if you explicitly say that it should only be done because he wasn't being voted last game.....

However

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I actually meant that there could be very quick votes in that case, and a hammer might be done without people realising Slalni had 2 votes, and him possibly forgetting to mention it.
this does feel like a very weak/forced explanation and

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I'm pretty sure you're town at this stage, however your constant scumpainting of, as you said yourself, everybody, is kinda suspicious.
I really don't like this wording either, "pretty sure you're town" followed by "kinda suspicious" is off in my book.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi

Ace Timing wrote:

ayy confirm lmao
also can you tell me what was the reason for confirming with "ayy lmao"?
Sakura
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7,979 posts
Joined March 2010
Topic Starter
Sakura

Ace Timing wrote:

@Mod: are alignments chosen after role?
No (And normally this will never be the case unless it's an upick).
Vote Count 1.13

Frostings (3) - sLaiNi, Amianki
Ace Timing (3) - Zexion, Drezi, Setsuen
sLaiNi (2) - pieguy1372, Navizel
rEdo (1) - fartownik
Setsuen (1) - Haneii
- Magic Bomb - (1) - Frostings

Not Voting (3) - - Magic Bomb -, rEdo, Ace Timing

With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
Zexion
308 posts
Joined May 2012
Zexion
@Setsuen: since you used EpicMafia as a argument, I actually went and played a couple games there to see if those hold ground... I don't want to go there again.

@Ace: It's not about a "joke" post, it's about the time you made it when RVS was seemingly over. Lukers will be caught in due time but right now it's better to accuse someone based on what they wrote instead of what they should be writing. Don't get so personal about it, no one has anything agaist you.

Setsuen wrote:

Frostings wrote:

nice attempt at townslip :^)
Nice attempt at filler post to make it seem like you're actually doing something.
Also oddly enough you were quite "passive"about my claim and didn't try to stop people from continuing the senseless discussion on how valid my claim was despite the fact that you're more active than majority of the current players. Were you perhaps hoping to EXTEND the discussion of my role so that you can fake that you're doing something by randomly accusing other people?

That and your post towards me are neutral which only mean one thing to me:Possible scum who tries to avoid any 1v1 with me by only posting neutral comment bc if not they might be lynched.

I can probably come up with a few reasons why I can scum read everyone here. My paranoia is good.
So you're pissed off than Frosting didn't make a fuzz over your claim? Like if we needed to go insane because you claimed Miller? I don't get your obsession with being the center of attention, like if you have to remember us every five minutes of your role.

Also that last sentence is like "I'm so town guise, trust me!"

@Amianki: post something useful? You're not being better than Ace, a vote on frostings then random comments but none of them helpful.

Ugh I forgot about Setsuen's walls. Might need to read again later because my concentration drops to zero when going over them.
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
I lied, I'll be around tomorrow.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Zexion wrote:

@Setsuen: since you used EpicMafia as a argument, I actually went and played a couple games there to see if those hold ground... I don't want to go there again.

So you're pissed off than Frosting didn't make a fuzz over your claim? Like if we needed to go insane because you claimed Miller? I don't get your obsession with being the center of attention, like if you have to remember us every five minutes of your role.

Also that last sentence is like "I'm so town guise, trust me!"
Did you try Main lobby or Sandbox?

Not caring much about a miller claim is just plain suspicious esp with the huge discussion people had on it. However Frosting just decided to avoid almost all of it.
If this doesn't feel like a distancing attempt from his possible scum buddies then CAN be called a distancing attempt?


The last sentence was more of a fact based thing that boast about my ability to scumhunt. no jealousy bc I scumhunt differently with a higher win rate is allowed.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen
I missed out a "What"in one of my setence. 10/10
Frostings
913 posts
Joined May 2013
Frostings

Setsuen wrote:

The last sentence was more of a fact based thing that boast about my ability to scumhunt. no jealousy bc I scumhunt differently with a higher win rate is allowed.

I'm just gonna pretend like I didn't just read that
MBomb
MBomb

Drezi wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I'm pretty sure you're town at this stage, however your constant scumpainting of, as you said yourself, everybody, is kinda suspicious.
I really don't like this wording either, "pretty sure you're town" followed by "kinda suspicious" is off in my book.
Someone can be town but still do something suspicious. It's not like every single townie ever is gonna be perfect and never say anything wrong or do anything slightly off.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
so what makes you pretty sure he's town, if his constant scumpainting is suspicious to you at the same time?
MBomb
MBomb

Drezi wrote:

so what makes you pretty sure he's town, if his constant scumpainting is suspicious to you at the same time?
It seems like legitimate attempts to try to scumhunt, even if it isn't going well for him. It's just the way he's doing it is kinda suspicious because he's suspecting literally everyone, which seeing as only 25% of the people in the game are actually scum, isn't exactly the right way to go about things.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Drezi wrote:

so what makes you pretty sure he's town, if his constant scumpainting is suspicious to you at the same time?
Shouldn't you be focusing more on people like Haneii for disengaging from a 1v1 with me and then directing my attention to others? I mean this is what some people used against me(Yes CB you tried to do it in Lupus and Sephibro did it in the game I lost z.z) So that means that Haneii is either 1.Scum or 2.Probably some investigative role who was dumb enough to pick a 1v1 with me instead of acting passively.


As of this point the scum team are either Ace+MB+Haneii for me or the few known people who have barely posted anything namely pieguy,fartownik,rEdo,Amianki which are ODDLY SUSPICIOUSLY the people I would consider the "Veteran"in this game. It is just plain suspicious why they are not doing much about some of the pointless discussion that town has came up with and instead just sat on the sidelines to lurk. It is like they are just waiting for town to automatically lose by self destructing through paranoia etc.


I think it's time we tackle the "veteran"lurkers if we even want to have a chance to win.
MBomb
MBomb

Setsuen wrote:

Drezi wrote:

so what makes you pretty sure he's town, if his constant scumpainting is suspicious to you at the same time?
Shouldn't you be focusing more on people like Haneii for disengaging from a 1v1 with me and then directing my attention to others?

As of this point the scum team are either Ace+MB+Haneii for me
"I think MB is in the scum team, but don't focus on MB" wut, that logic makes literally 0 sense. If I was scum as you seem to think, dropping focus on me entirely would be stupid. This comment alone makes me just think you're scum who's trying to pin blame on me if you get lynched, as you've essentially just said "Don't focus on the person you're reading as scum".

I might post reads soon, if anyone's interested.
MBomb
MBomb
For the record, most of my reads are null because a lot of people have barely said anything, but I do have a few null-town, null-scum, and one scum read.
MBomb
MBomb
Not voting for him yet though because there's a wagon on him and as you all know, I hate jumping on wagons most of the time without complete faith in my read, which I don't entirely yet.
MBomb
MBomb
Mainly due to his lack of posting.

(Sorry for so many posts at once by the way, thoughts coming in parts rip)
Sakura
osu! Alumni
7,979 posts
Joined March 2010
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.14

Frostings (3) - sLaiNi, Amianki
Ace Timing (3) - Zexion, Drezi, Setsuen
sLaiNi (2) - pieguy1372, Navizel
rEdo (1) - fartownik
Setsuen (1) - Haneii
- Magic Bomb - (1) - Frostings

Not Voting (3) - - Magic Bomb -, rEdo, Ace Timing

With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

As of this point the scum team are either Ace+MB+Haneii for me
"I think MB is in the scum team, but don't focus on MB" wut, that logic makes literally 0 sense. If I was scum as you seem to think, dropping focus on me entirely would be stupid. This comment alone makes me just think you're scum who's trying to pin blame on me if you get lynched, as you've essentially just said "Don't focus on the person you're reading as scum".

I might post reads soon, if anyone's interested.[/quote]

Stop trying to twist my word scum. I had a better scum read on Haneii than you and I was questioning why Drezi wasn't even focusing on Haneii when he had much more scum points. That and the fact that we can just lynch Ace and if he flips scum YOU'RE ALMOST 100% certain to be scum. by means of association.

Did you see me dropping my focus on Haneii entirely AFTER he asked me to give him my scum reads? no. but 10/01 nice try scum.

Also
> scum who's trying to pin blame on me if you get lynched

I hope you know Miler only show up guilty on cop report. I still flip town if I die. Also anyone who played long enough should know that "pinning blame on others"while being lynched as scum means literally almost NOTHING unless I'm town. So nice possible slip you scum.

Also >Still trying to say lynch to me on D1 after my past games 10/10.
MBomb
MBomb

Setsuen wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

As of this point the scum team are either Ace+MB+Haneii for me
"I think MB is in the scum team, but don't focus on MB" wut, that logic makes literally 0 sense. If I was scum as you seem to think, dropping focus on me entirely would be stupid. This comment alone makes me just think you're scum who's trying to pin blame on me if you get lynched, as you've essentially just said "Don't focus on the person you're reading as scum".

I might post reads soon, if anyone's interested.
Stop trying to twist my word scum. I had a better scum read on Haneii than you and I was questioning why Drezi wasn't even focusing on Haneii when he had much more scum points. That and the fact that we can just lynch Ace and if he flips scum YOU'RE ALMOST 100% certain to be scum. by means of association.

Did you see me dropping my focus on Haneii entirely AFTER he asked me to give him my scum reads? no. but 10/01 nice try scum.

Also
> scum who's trying to pin blame on me if you get lynched

I hope you know Miler only show up guilty on cop report. I still flip town if I die. Also anyone who played long enough should know that "pinning blame on others"while being lynched as scum means literally almost NOTHING unless I'm town. So nice possible slip you scum.

Also >Still trying to say lynch to me on D1 after my past games 10/10.[/quote]

..."Stop trying to twist my word" *twists words* 10/10 logic there
MBomb
MBomb
And of course I know you'd flip town if you were miller. I never even mentioned your miller claim there, and tbh I'm starting to doubt that claim.
MBomb
MBomb
Also, my scumread is a lot better of a lynch then you, you're still null to me, but going towards null-scum now.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

And of course I know you'd flip town if you were miller. I never even mentioned your miller claim there, and tbh I'm starting to doubt that claim.
The only one who care about my claim are scum as of this moment. bc town absolutely have no disadvantage if they decide to hunt and lynch all the scum until there's only one left before lynching me for my claim.
MBomb
MBomb
Also "If Ace flips scum, YOU'RE ALMOST 100% certain to be scum" ok why are we even questioning this anymore, fuck it, didn't want a lynch on him D1 but if he's gonna be this obvious, he's probably even more likely than my other reads.

Vote: Setsuen
MBomb
MBomb
Actually nevermind, put my vote on him then decided that's probably not right just yet, he'll get lynched in time anyway.

Unvote
MBomb
MBomb
If Setsuen is scum, I get the idea that Ace Timing will also be scum, because of that very obvious bussing, but for now I think there is a better lynch.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Also "If Ace flips scum, YOU'RE ALMOST 100% certain to be scum" ok why are we even questioning this anymore, fuck it, didn't want a lynch on him D1 but if he's gonna be this obvious, he's probably even more likely than my other reads.

Vote: Setsuen
k scum. You saved Ace when he was being pressured and you expect others not to be suspicious of you and now you're pulling what CB and Navizel did on D1 Lupus.

Not to mention that I already stated why Ace is probably scum but you of course choose to just vote me bc your scum team got outted. Desperate much?
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

If Setsuen is scum, I get the idea that Ace Timing will also be scum, because of that very obvious bussing, but for now I think there is a better lynch.
What gives you the idea that I would be dumb enough to HEAVILY bus my partner D1? and even if I did why aren't you mentioning YOURSELF as possible scum buddy or Haneii? Did you even read my ISO? bc a town would but a scum who is randomly commenting sure won't.
MBomb
MBomb

Setsuen wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Also "If Ace flips scum, YOU'RE ALMOST 100% certain to be scum" ok why are we even questioning this anymore, fuck it, didn't want a lynch on him D1 but if he's gonna be this obvious, he's probably even more likely than my other reads.

Vote: Setsuen
k scum. You saved Ace when he was being pressured and you expect others not to be suspicious of you and now you're pulling what CB and Navizel did on D1 Lupus.

Not to mention that I already stated why Ace is probably scum but you of course choose to just vote me bc your scum team got outted. Desperate much?
Calling someone desperate when you're literally grasping at straws as to not get scumread is very hypocritical, I'd recommend avoiding that. However, we have better lynches for now rather than you (Or even Ace, for that matter), and I just realised that we need 7 votes for a lynch to actually happen, it's not just based on maximums, and after reading the ISO earlier, I'm 99% sure of this now.

Vote: Frostings
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
Vote: Magic Bomb
MBomb
MBomb
Oh, and yes, I do expect someone to say OMGUS, but tbh, i don't care, it's so obvious it hurts.
MBomb
MBomb
Oh and what a surprise, the final of my 3 scum reads comes out to vote me as I vote for his partner. What a surprise.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
What a surprise, oh my.
MBomb
MBomb
If I do end up getting lynched, lynch Drezi first, then Frostings, then Setsuen. It's basically gg when the 3 scum are being so obvious.
MBomb
MBomb
I assumed one of the lurkers would be the 3rd scum tbh, but with Setsuen being so obvious, I'd be very surprised.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
I vote him and suddenly I'm the topscum :))
MBomb
MBomb
Oh and also, the reason for lynching Drezi before Frostings if I do get lynched is that Frostings might end up acting better once I'm dead, after all, his reasons for targetting me were utterly stupid, and he knows it.
MBomb
MBomb
If you were top scum, I'd vote you.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

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Calling someone desperate when you're literally grasping at straws as to not get scumread is very hypocritical, I'd recommend avoiding that. However, we have better lynches for now rather than you (Or even Ace, for that matter), and I just realised that we need 7 votes for a lynch to actually happen, it's not just based on maximums, and after reading the ISO earlier, I'm 99% sure of this now.

Vote: Frostings
Yes 10/10 just randomly mention ace to look like you're actually responding to my post about me stating why I think Ace is scum when you're not actually doing it at all.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

If I do end up getting lynched, lynch Drezi first, then Frostings, then Setsuen. It's basically gg when the 3 scum are being so obvious.
The only one who can pull off being sarcastic and what not and STILL be town is me. Plz do better TY.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Oh and also, the reason for lynching Drezi before Frostings if I do get lynched is that Frostings might end up acting better once I'm dead, after all, his reasons for targetting me were utterly stupid, and he knows it.
Oh guess what. Navizel said the SAME THING TO ME IN A NEWBIE GAME AND TOWN DELAYED LYNCHING HIM UNTIL D3. 10/10
MBomb
MBomb
I see no sarcasm in my post. Do you understand the meaning of the word?
MBomb
MBomb
Also you seem to think I'm Navizel for some reason. Look at my name again.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I'm pretty sure you're town [Setsuen].

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

It seems like legitimate attempts to try to scumhunt

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

fuck it, didn't want a lynch on him D1 but if he's gonna be this obvious
Vote: Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I'm 99% sure of this now.
Vote: Frostings
The consistency.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I see no sarcasm in my post. Do you understand the meaning of the word?

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Oh and what a surprise, the final of my 3 scum reads comes out to vote me as I vote for his partner. What a surprise.
Seeing that you're my scum read. I would think that you were being sarcastic when you stated that you were "Surprised"" by Drezi voting you. Please try again.
MBomb
MBomb

Drezi wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I'm pretty sure you're town [Setsuen].

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

It seems like legitimate attempts to try to scumhunt

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

fuck it, didn't want a lynch on him D1 but if he's gonna be this obvious
Vote: Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I'm 99% sure of this now.
Vote: Frostings
The consistency.
Ok, let me just explain all of these things really easily in two statements.
Firstly, time difference between first and second posts compared to 3rd.
Secondly, Frostings has been my main scum read for the longest time, as I mentioned earlier when I said I had one scum read. Then Setsuen started acting very scummy, so I thought to vote him, then realised he will probably get killed anyway if there's a vigilante, so switched to my main scum read.
MBomb
MBomb

Setsuen wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I see no sarcasm in my post. Do you understand the meaning of the word?

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Oh and what a surprise, the final of my 3 scum reads comes out to vote me as I vote for his partner. What a surprise.
Seeing that you're my scum read. I would think that you were being sarcastic when you stated that you were "Surprised"" by Drezi voting you. Please try again.
Oh, I thought you were referring to a different post, so there was sarcasm there. Your point being? I'm British, I'm naturally sarcastic.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Oh and also, the reason for lynching Drezi before Frostings if I do get lynched is that Frostings might end up acting better once I'm dead
So you're sure Frostings is scum, but if he doesn't get lynched then fuck it he might not be scum afterall, and I become more scum and lynch me instead?
MBomb
MBomb
Also, at the time when I made the comment about whether I should say my reads, I'd like to say:

Setsuen was null.
Drezi was null-scum.
Frostings was scum.
MBomb
MBomb

Drezi wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Oh and also, the reason for lynching Drezi before Frostings if I do get lynched is that Frostings might end up acting better once I'm dead
So you're sure Frostings is scum, but if he doesn't get lynched then fuck it he might not be scum afterall, and I become more scum and lynch me instead?
No, I'm saying if I get lynched (Not if he doesn't, idk where you got that idea), his arguments may make an attempt to target someone else, in which case, it'd probably be easier to tell if he's making shit up or not. I meant better for town, if he is scum (Which he is.), and the fact you assume I meant better for scum shows your scumminess, thanks.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
I'm not assuming either, you're not making sense.
MBomb
MBomb
Though I will say to Setsuen, you're quite smart, as scum, you'd want to get a mislynch of course, and who better to mislynch then the newest player, it's easy because you know I'll do a lot worse in 1v1s than an experienced player, and I'm bound to make some mistake because of my inexperience (Especially as town, considering this is my first game as town).
MBomb
MBomb

Drezi wrote:

I'm not assuming either, you're not making sense.
Then do tell, what did you assume?
Sakura
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Frostings (4) - sLaiNi, Amianki, - Magic Bomb - [L-3]
Ace Timing (2) - Zexion, Setsuen
- Magic Bomb - (2) - Frostings, Drezi
sLaiNi (2) - pieguy1372, Navizel
rEdo (1) - fartownik
Setsuen (1) - Haneii

Not Voting (2) - rEdo, Ace Timing

With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
Yay activity, i love activity

Also this is a friendly reminder that there's 48 hours remainng
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

"I think MB is in the scum team, but don't focus on MB" wut, that logic makes literally 0 sense. If I was scum as you seem to think, dropping focus on me entirely would be stupid. This comment alone makes me just think you're scum who's trying to pin blame on me if you get lynched, as you've essentially just said "Don't focus on the person you're reading as scum".
Lets Re-elaborate the possible slip MagicBomb made. First MB stated as you can see:He accuses me of being scum who is trying to pin blame on him if I get lynched. But here's some fun fact. If I pin the blame on him and flip scum, he would gain MORE town point than scum point. Then you sort of realise that bc MB posted that weird sentence it looks as if MB knows I am town and therefore said that bc that sentence would make almost NO SENSE if I were scum bc pinning blame on others as scum = no effect. Like seriously.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Ok, let me just explain all of these things really easily in two statements.
Firstly, time difference between first and second posts compared to 3rd.
Secondly, Frostings has been my main scum read for the longest time, as I mentioned earlier when I said I had one scum read. Then Setsuen started acting very scummy, so I thought to vote him, then realised he will probably get killed anyway if there's a vigilante, so switched to my main scum read.
No sane town is going to vig me. The amount of WIFOM I GIVE to SCUM is helping town more than it hurts them.


- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Also, at the time when I made the comment about whether I should say my reads, I'd like to say:

Setsuen was null.
Drezi was null-scum.
Frostings was scum.
You know it's really amazing how you keep accusing me of being possible scum when 1.A lot of lurkers have stated that I am most likely town DESPITE my posting style(which btw iis consistent with my previous games) and 2.A lot of active player with the exception of Haneii thinks I am town. But of course for some reason or another, you REFUSE to take into account their reads and stated that I was obvious scum.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

No, I'm saying if I get lynched (Not if he doesn't, idk where you got that idea), his arguments may make an attempt to target someone else, in which case, it'd probably be easier to tell if he's making shit up or not. I meant better for town, if he is scum (Which he is.), and the fact you assume I meant better for scum shows your scumminess, thanks.
Like I said. I targetted Navizel for lurking and posting fillerpost and they said those were stupid reason to lynch him off. He flipped scum that game.
Also town isn't dumb enough not to suspect people who MIGHT randomly switch target after their lynch(Frosting) with the exception of me bc I do what I want to scumhunt.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Though I will say to Setsuen, you're quite smart, as scum, you'd want to get a mislynch of course, and who better to mislynch then the newest player, it's easy because you know I'll do a lot worse in 1v1s than an experienced player, and I'm bound to make some mistake because of my inexperience (Especially as town, considering this is my first game as town).
You do realise you're talking to someone who had to handle a 2v1 in his first game and STILL survived till end game even though I self voted myself? Funnily enough my D1 reads are still the most accurate reads I get bc after that I get too overly paranoid.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Though I will say to Setsuen, you're quite smart, as scum, you'd want to get a mislynch of course, and who better to mislynch then the newest player, it's easy because you know I'll do a lot worse in 1v1s than an experienced player, and I'm bound to make some mistake because of my inexperience (Especially as town, considering this is my first game as town).
I just realised. My vote is on Ace. I'm not even trying to lynch you and you're trying to use sympathy/empathy or whatnot to save yourself as of this point. You also stated that if I was scum, Ace probably is too but yet on your top 3 list is me,Drezi and Frosting. It just seem that you're passively protecting Ace WAY TOO MUCH.
MBomb
MBomb
I swear you've played this game a lot longer than me but you don't know what bussing is? Wow.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
I'm assuming you're talking about D1 lynch, because what else. If you get lynched Frostings would not obviously. And anyway in your last comment you say "not if he doesn't" so he'd be dead and you are you talking about his arguments attempting to target someone else so wtf.
MBomb
MBomb
Also just wondering why did you respond to a post where I said you were a null read asking why i was suspecting you when YOU WERE A NULL READ. (At the time, at least)
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I swear you've played this game a lot longer than me but you don't know what bussing is? Wow.
I already stated that I won't be dumb enough to HEAVILY bus anyone. You''re just desperately grasping at straws at this point bc you're scum who can't be bothered t read my post properly.

@Mod:Prod everyone who haven't say anything for the past 24hours.
MBomb
MBomb

Drezi wrote:

I'm assuming you're talking about D1 lynch, because what else. If you get lynched Frostings would not obviously. And anyway in your last comment you say "not if he doesn't" so he'd be dead and you are you talking about his arguments attempting to target someone else so wtf.
...If he doesn't he'd be alive, if he did, he'd be dead. But I was talking about how I was only saying that if I got lynched. If anyone else who isn't Frostings got lynched, I would still say to lynch him before you. I honestly think you're desperately trying to misread what I'm saying to try and give misdirection to other players, when actually all it's doing is showing that you don't care about what someone says, because you're scum.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen
I see Zexion browsing on this forum. I expect response or we policy lynch him for purposely lurking esp with the HUGE discussion we're having right now.
MBomb
MBomb

Setsuen wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I swear you've played this game a lot longer than me but you don't know what bussing is? Wow.
I already stated that I won't be dumb enough to HEAVILY bus anyone. You''re just desperately grasping at straws at this point bc you're scum who can't be bothered t read my post properly.

@Mod:Prod everyone who haven't say anything for the past 24hours.
Your "bussing" (Which it wasn't, because I'm town), wasn't heavy at first, it only became heavy when 2 other people cast suspicion over me.
MBomb
MBomb
And yeah whoops I meant to request a prod on farto but yeah just prod everyone i guess
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel

Setsuen wrote:

Navizel. Please stop posting one liners that are almost useless to the game bc with each post my town read of you is dropping. But of course it seems that you're arguing with ace so either you're ace's scum buddy who is posting 1liners each to look like you're doing something or you got baited hard into going into a 1liner discussion with ace. Take your pick town.
Oh you shut your whore mouth.

Navizel wrote:

I don't even remember what we did on Lupus lmao.

This is another post to remind everyone that meta is not everything. If it is, scums could just kill Setsuen N1 and then shift the blame on to me because I usually kill Setsuen N1.
You didn't in ChaosInDummyVille.
usually != always.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Though I will say to Setsuen, you're quite smart, as scum, you'd want to get a mislynch of course, and who better to mislynch then the newest player, it's easy because you know I'll do a lot worse in 1v1s than an experienced player, and I'm bound to make some mistake because of my inexperience (Especially as town, considering this is my first game as town).
that oxymoron woah

Hmm. I don't really like appeal to emotion/authority thinking.
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I honestly think you're desperately trying to misread what I'm saying to try and give misdirection to other players, when actually all it's doing is showing that you don't care about what someone says, because you're scum.
Try reading what you've posted again...
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
this is a good album guys just sayin'
SPOILER
Sakura
osu! Alumni
7,979 posts
Joined March 2010
Topic Starter
Sakura

Setsuen wrote:

@Mod:Prod everyone who haven't say anything for the past 24hours.
fartownik, sLaiNi and rEdo have been prodded!
MBomb
MBomb

Navizel wrote:

this is a good album guys just sayin'
SPOILER
inb4 you get scumread for making a joke post just like someone else did
MBomb
MBomb

Drezi wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I honestly think you're desperately trying to misread what I'm saying to try and give misdirection to other players, when actually all it's doing is showing that you don't care about what someone says, because you're scum.
Try reading what you've posted again...
Sorry, I'm not exactly the smartest, could you actually tell me what you want me to be reading here?
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
I don't even care. It's just ridiculous.
MBomb
MBomb

Navizel wrote:

I don't even care. It's just ridiculous.
It's a stupid thing to get scumread for yeah, but against Setsuen, apparently anything can get you scumread
Drezi
217 posts
Joined January 2014
Drezi
I did not scumread Ace for making a joke post, it's infinitely stupid trying to dumb it down like that.
Ace Timing
4 posts
Joined October 2014
Ace Timing
ISO dive:

Pieguy - nullscum. He hasn't posted much, but voted Slaini while playing a little game with us to guess the reason, seems to be RVS, but it might actually be a reason, and I see no reason why it should be hidden. Not confident enough in this to vote, but still sus, hence his placement here.

Setsuen - null. I haven't seen his other games, but I've seen posts about his previous games where he posts similar walls that are long and go off of random things. Really paranoid, but claims Miller really early on, not really sure of what kind of tell this could be, probably not a good lynch for today, maybe tomorrow or the day after.

MB - nulltown, is having an ongoing discussion with setsuen atm, so at the time of this post that shitstorm discussion hasn't ended. She hasn't been playing to her scum meta, which is lurky and only posts occasionally, and skated past suspicion the entire game in Hoenn. She's much more active here, and because of that I have been townreading, her ongoing discussion with Setsuen has some weird parts, especially where she goes from townreading setsuen to voting him. This is why she's currently nulltown instead of full town. Truth be told, she only has a scum meta, haven't seen a (finished) town game from her yet, so no meta to really townread from, only to not scumread from. If you catch my drift with that, might seem weird.

Amianki - nullscum. One of my weaker nullscum reads, he hasn't posted much so, much like pieguy, whether or not he is scum is tentative, as in it could change soon.

rEdo - null. Lurkfuck/away. Not a lot of posts to go off of, so the alignment could be either or.

Navizel - nulltown. Hasn't had alot of posts as of this post, but they seem townie questions from my point of view.

Haneii - null, slightly leaning scum. ISO is basically only setup spec from what I see. Apparently tangoed with Setsuen, but I just see filler posts that only speculate setup when it really isn't all that important right now. Probably my weakest nullscum reads out of anyone else.

Slaini - nulltown - I don't see the scumminess here, ISO seems normal, DV slipped really early, but afterwards his posts are confusing but he tries to explain him to the best of his ability, much like every game he's been in.

Zexion - nulltown, voted on me, but I assume wanted to put pressure on me, I had low post count at the time and even those posts were lacking, so there's good reason for it. Doesn't fill his walls with fluff like in his recent scum game. Looks town to me, but hasn't posted recently (at the time of this)

farto - null. Lurkfuck/away, hasn't posted in nearly 40 hours, and basically has nothing worthy of reading. Could be town, but no posts to go off of.

Frosting - nulltown, he questions Slaini a bit, and wants to put a lot of pressure

Drezi - nulltown. as stupid as his vote is against me, he's still probably town. I've seen no real scummy things from him that stand out, and from this, I have no real reason to scumread him.

At the time of this post, the pagecount is at 22, and this is the most recent post.

Setsuen wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

If Setsuen is scum, I get the idea that Ace Timing will also be scum, because of that very obvious bussing, but for now I think there is a better lynch.
What gives you the idea that I would be dumb enough to HEAVILY bus my partner D1? and even if I did why aren't you mentioning YOURSELF as possible scum buddy or Haneii? Did you even read my ISO? bc a town would but a scum who is randomly commenting sure won't.
anything after this is not included.


==================
This took me longer than I thought it would tbh. And yes, before anyone asks about this I am very conscious of the fact that all of my reads are null. I haven't hard scum read anyone on any game I've ever been in that wasn't a reaction test, and it's not going to suddenly mean anything special here.

Meta reads are plentiful here, MS has influenced me.
Ace Timing
4 posts
Joined October 2014
Ace Timing
lol shit happened while I was diving, time to read, 3 extra pages.
sLaiNi
34 posts
Joined May 2013
sLaiNi
Was reading 4 pages of this while I got prod :D


Actually I read actively the last day, but I am just too overstained (overstrained[?]) with Setsuen. I was so suspicious of him and his way of posting and then everybody is like "That's just Setsuen".

Could anybody explain to me what "That's just what Setsuen does all the time" means before I take this into consideration?
MBomb
MBomb

sLaiNi wrote:

Was reading 4 pages of this while I got prod :D


Actually I read actively the last day, but I am just too overstained (overstrained[?]) with Setsuen. I was so suspicious of him and his way of posting and then everybody is like "That's just Setsuen".

Could anybody explain to me what "That's just what Setsuen does all the time" means before I take this into consideration?
As far as I can see, Setsuen's tactic is just that. Whether he's town or scum, his aim seems to be to overstrain people until they give up and stop even fighting with him or just make a mistake and instantly jump on it, whilst twisting the words of the person he's arguing with to make it more likely they'll make a mistake.
MBomb
MBomb
ofc this is my first game with him too so that's just my guess based on this game
MBomb
MBomb
Oh and he also repeats himself. A lot.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Ace Timing wrote:

ISO dive:

MB - nulltown, is having an ongoing discussion with setsuen atm, so at the time of this post that shitstorm discussion hasn't ended. She hasn't been playing to her scum meta, which is lurky and only posts occasionally, and skated past suspicion the entire game in Hoenn. She's much more active here, and because of that I have been townreading, her ongoing discussion with Setsuen has some weird parts, especially where she goes from townreading setsuen to voting him. This is why she's currently nulltown instead of full town. Truth be told, she only has a scum meta, haven't seen a (finished) town game from her yet, so no meta to really townread from, only to not scumread from. If you catch my drift with that, might seem weird.
You do know the only reason why MB can't lurk anymore is bc she has to respond to me everytime she types something suspicious right? I mean the only reason she is posting like 5X times more than she usually do is bc of Haneii who tried to direct me to OTHER suspicious people who happened to be MB and MB tried to respond back which started the long chain of post in the first place.
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
Pro-tip: you don't have to read all the walls.

This has been said many times but walls are counter-productive. Most of his walls can be summarized.
Sakura
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Frostings (4) - sLaiNi, Amianki, - Magic Bomb - [L-3]
Ace Timing (2) - Zexion, Setsuen
- Magic Bomb - (2) - Frostings, Drezi
sLaiNi (2) - pieguy1372, Navizel
rEdo (1) - fartownik
Setsuen (1) - Haneii

Not Voting (2) - rEdo, Ace Timing

With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Navizel wrote:

Pro-tip: you don't have to read all the walls.

This has been said many times but walls are counter-productive. Most of his walls can be summarized.
GREAT! Summarise ALL my walls for me if you can Navizel.
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
Fuck off. I have better things to do.
Ace Timing
4 posts
Joined October 2014
Ace Timing

sLaiNi wrote:

Actually I read actively the last day, but I am just too overstained (overstrained[?]) with Setsuen.?
you probably mean to say:

Actually I read actively yesterday but I am justoverwhelmed by Setsuen.
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
I shouldn't even be the one who should be summarizing your fucking walls.
Setsuen
106 posts
Joined May 2013
Setsuen

Navizel wrote:

Fuck off. I have better things to do.
Like whining about my walls instead of posting your reads?
Navizel
2,982 posts
Joined April 2011
Navizel
Absolutely.
MBomb
MBomb

Setsuen wrote:

Ace Timing wrote:

ISO dive:

MB - nulltown, is having an ongoing discussion with setsuen atm, so at the time of this post that shitstorm discussion hasn't ended. She hasn't been playing to her scum meta, which is lurky and only posts occasionally, and skated past suspicion the entire game in Hoenn. She's much more active here, and because of that I have been townreading, her ongoing discussion with Setsuen has some weird parts, especially where she goes from townreading setsuen to voting him. This is why she's currently nulltown instead of full town. Truth be told, she only has a scum meta, haven't seen a (finished) town game from her yet, so no meta to really townread from, only to not scumread from. If you catch my drift with that, might seem weird.
You do know the only reason why MB can't lurk anymore is bc she has to respond to me everytime she types something suspicious right? I mean the only reason she is posting like 5X times more than she usually do is bc of Haneii who tried to direct me to OTHER suspicious people who happened to be MB and MB tried to respond back which started the long chain of post in the first place.
I'm not a she Ace Timing and Setsuen please :^(
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