sLaiNi wrote:

Why don't cry it out aloud "Don't nightscan me, I'm town eitherway no matter what the mod tells you I am".

So atleast I'm right when saying you were so serious about stating that your role is so bad, because you want to make sure noone investigates you?

fartownik wrote:

I don't see a reason why he would lie about that, especially right at the beginning of the game. Claiming Miller if you're scum at the beginning of the game is a terrible strategy.

Amianki wrote:

Miller is an okay fakeclaim if you're ballsy. Anyone who can test it definitely should tonight.

Frostings wrote:

Hmm how good is a miller fakeclaim? It might get cop off you but if there's a vig this game it's probably bad ..?

Zexion wrote:

Also that Miller claim D1. At least if there's a cop he/she knows who not to investigate. The question here is that if we should do a PL to eliminate the big WIFOM... probably a bit to soon to decide that.

No point on wasting a cop on him since he will turn out guilty. A townie would have NO reason to claim miller unless he actually wins with scum.

So yeah, setup spec isn't the reason why you're voting him otherwise it would be inconsistent with your other reads. It's probably because the sudden vote change which at least made no sense to me considering we were just starting. Anyways, why do we have to guess your intentions?

Zexion wrote:

But in a closed setup we have no idea if there's only one miller, hypotetically there could be like 5 millers so the "doesn't allow scum to fakeclaim" isn't true.

Frostings wrote:

If there's one miller, then that means there's a cop. Having 5 millers would make cop garbage

Haneii wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

If it was 1-shot, it wouldn't have activated without him specifically saying that he wanted to use it.

This game is inspired by Fakegod's Nightingale. It has many double voters that are day specific. So in this case his double vote might only work for D1.

Setsuen wrote:

Except I been in Upick where there was a godfather with no cop in the set-up.

Frostings wrote:

If there's one miller, then that means there's a cop. Having 5 millers would make cop garbage

I'm not giving much attention to pieguy's vote because of this

pieguy1372 wrote:

that's easily the best guess so far, but unfortunately, nope

Ace Timing wrote:

I half want to replace out so I can see Jess with Setsuen.

Zexion wrote:

@Haneii: Were those day specific double voters self-aware?

Frostings wrote:

Setsuen wrote:

Except I been in Upick where there was a godfather with no cop in the set-up.

yeah, but that's upick. I suppose Sakura could troll us with miller + no cop, but seems unlikely. The only real reason for miller in the first place is to weaken cop. But I mean, you could be a red herring

Also everyone should remove their RVS votes already and get this game underway or else I'm gonna FoS everyone that doesn't

Setsuen wrote:

I'm leaving my vote on rEdo until they talk more. bc lets face it most of the time lurkers flip maf.

pieguy1372 wrote:

setsuen is probably town

Amianki wrote:

Miller is an okay fakeclaim if you're ballsy. Anyone who can test it definitely should tonight.

sLaiNi wrote:

Because it's even a worse Idea to affect the behavior of the people with the double vote in mind.

Zexion wrote:

No point on wasting a cop on him since he will turn out guilty. A townie would have NO reason to claim miller unless he actually wins with scum.

Amianki wrote:

Miller is an okay fakeclaim if you're ballsy. Anyone who can test it definitely should tonight.

Zexion wrote:

@rEdo: Yeah, it's getting pretty fucked up already and some of the reactions are just plain odd. Why would you want to produce CO2 on a fucking volcano planet?

Ace Timing wrote:

I half want to replace out so I can see Jess with Setsuen.

Haneii wrote:

It kinda felt like he was baiting anyone to check him tonight (in an odd setsuen kinda way)..

Ace Timing wrote:

ayy confirm lmao

Ace Timing wrote:

I half want to replace out so I can see Jess with Setsuen.

Drezi wrote:

What I didn't like is the exchange starting here: p/4424063
Farto tells Setsuen "LIES" and sLaiNi's sarcastic tone in the followup post gave me the impression that he doesn't really buy the claim either, yet when farto said he doesn't actually think Setsuen is lying, sLaiNi went on to agree "but still worth keeping an eye on" kinda taking a step back at the same time. So if you detailed your thoughts a bit more here sLaiNi, that'd be welcome.

fartownik wrote:

I don't see a reason why he would lie about that, especially right at the beginning of the game. Claiming Miller if you're scum at the beginning of the game is a terrible strategy.

sLaiNi wrote:

Zexion wrote:

No point on wasting a cop on him since he will turn out guilty.

That's the kind of WIFOM he created.

Ace Timing wrote:

I half want to replace out so I can see Jess with Setsuen.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Tbh most of the games I've seen of rEdo he doesn't exactly post much, so this isn't a good reason to vote him, imo, at least not yet.

pieguy1372 wrote:

setsuen is probably town

that said, I more likely than not won't read his posts from here on out

Haneii wrote:

Why do you think so?


It kinda felt like he was baiting anyone to check him tonight (in an odd setsuen kinda way).

rEdo wrote:

IMO millers should claim right at the beginning of the game. What if that person got cop scanned, the result was revealed? Would they believe if that person went like "oh bois nevermind I'm le miller xD xD"?

Drezi wrote:

Haneii wrote:
It kinda felt like he was baiting anyone to check him tonight (in an odd setsuen kinda way)..

What do you mean here? With that claim he's either miller -> guilty result, or scum -> guilty result so there's no way anyone would have any reason to cop him.

If you seriously think anyone would investigate me N1 you are kidding yourself because I'm pretty sure a lot of people who played with me won't even bother.

You can try. It's not like I ever gotten a town PR role UNLESS I replaced in only to get N1ed or it was UPick.

Why do people keep thinking that town PR will target me N1 when they can get an easy read on me just by reading my post on D1?

I am pretty sure half to all of the players here have better things to do than target me N1.

Why are people assuming that ANYONE would target me N1. Ask yourself this. Would you yourself target me N1? The answer is probably no.

tldr:Stop assuming people are insane enough to target me N1.

Drezi wrote:

Btw having 2 neighbours it'd be kinda inconvenient to fakeclaim miller since you're limiting who can make the NK and if you're actually a scum PR you'd have trouble using that aswell without getting tangled up in lies, so overall I agree, we should stop worrying about Setsuen at least for today imo.

Setsuen wrote:

I am pretty sure half to all of the players here have better things to do than target me N1.

Setsuen wrote:

I am pretty sure half to all of the players here have better things to do than target me N1.

rEdo wrote:

IMO millers should claim right at the beginning of the game. What if that person got cop scanned, the result was revealed? Would they believe if that person went like "oh bois nevermind I'm le miller xD xD"?

Again I didn't need to claim it. Why are people assuming that ANYONE would target me N1. Ask yourself this. Would you yourself target me N1? The answer is probably no.


tldr:Stop assuming people are insane enough to target me N1.

Haneii wrote:

Furthermore, with all the neighbours hearing noise due to scum and town night activity, it might not be as easy to determine the alignment or direction of the activities.

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Replacing out.

Haneii wrote:

Why specifically N1?

Sorry if it's obvious reason, I haven't played with a Miller before. Do PRs avoid scanning/checking them on N1 over other days? If so, why?

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

You keep saying "Don't target me N1", and that is just super suspicious. It may seem stupid TO YOU, but I think if we have a role cop they should definitely scan you, as that's the only way to tell if your Miller claim is true or not, and if it's not, we don't need a cop to scan you because you've already said you'd come out guilty, and we could lynch you D2. Also, if the role cop ends up being scum, if there is one (I assume there's only one, there may be two but there's unlikely, and I'd assume you'd have the same thought pattern), that would make you a lot more likely in my eyes to be scum, as it'd be easier for you to take that risk.

Haneii wrote:

Well, that's your opinion, right? It already seems like a couple of people are open to the idea of checking him at night.

Navizel wrote:

oh fuck lmao I'm drunk

I'm still reading

Amianki wrote:

Why are we speculating on things that we don't know for sure even exist as part of the game?

fartownik wrote:

Unvoting Haneii after Amianki also voted her to clumsily hide the fact that he's a Douiblevoter despite already revealing it. Also shitting WIFOM and setup spec all over the place.