Yeah keeping notes on a spreadsheet or notepad can help a lot.-[Jess]- wrote:
and making some note to help me think
Fine by me, tho honestly I don't really mind since I think your game style is being provocative, like if you're trying for me to get angry and then put all the suspicion on me. Glad you waited on me posting before voting me.Hika wrote:
Hi guys! Finally back home from work o/
Also Zexion, any questions for me? Just wondering.My stance at the moment? Zexion is null-leaning scum, but as I've mentioned before, I am not familiar with his play style etcetcetc because he plays as if he doesn't know a lot. But that's okay. Him being novice is what's keeping him null.Static Noise Bird wrote:
@Hika, what is your exact stance on Zexion
*waits for OMGUS*Zexion wrote:
To be honest, I don't really feel Hika being scum. Maybe its just their playstyle that bothers me and what brought up the entire discussion. (i.e. not really submiting your ideas). A total null for now.
Well do you have any specific questions? Be very specific so I can satisfy your curiosity.Of course you won't like anything I say, it is going against your knowledge about your role. Until you post a little more, I will just label you as null-leaning scum. It's not bad, I won't put my vote on you because I don't think you're scummy, but so far, Navi does not receive my vote just yet until I see more play from him. I say give it 24-48 hours.Zexion wrote:
The reason why I asked the unvote was because of Drezi's "no oops later" that I thought was directed towards me, then I realized it was a general warning to everyone about the hammer vote being next. I am pretty surprised you think Hika's points are good, and even more that those help you scumreading me, most of them were misunderstandings from both parts, hardly something to tell I am scum.
ok, my opinion still stands.
SNB, may I have your reads please? You are null to me.
So you're confirming Navizel as town here? Or atleast it shows you do care about him yet you don't know if he's lying or not. Besides the way you worded it becomes highly convenient for you to discard a connection between you both in case he flips scum. But then again you both on the same team... unlikely.Hika wrote:
I'll be sure to hunt the scum off your wagon if that becomes the case here.
WTF, you cannot concern yourself about a vote coming towards you? How you can evade an indirect question this way?Hika wrote:
I don't care Drezi, that CANNOT be my concern, at least not now.
So you did evade that question and made a hasty vote (no other word could describe it better) just to reaction test Drezi? Yeah right, now every move that seems suspicious for other people I'll call it a reaction test.Hika wrote:
Don't assume without asking. Sakura doesn't have my town read because of the dialogue earlier on, but based off of the way she is picking up scum, I can completely agree with that. Confirmed doesn't apply for everyone, it only applies it onto my list. On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being completely town, 5 being completely null and 10 being completely scummy, I'd put Sakura at about a 3. Drezi, based on your reaction to my vote, I can bump you up to a 2. That is what I wanted.
I did read your post about the graduation (congratz btw) my reason to vote you here was not actually for the time, but for what Sakura said about you (acussing me of something then doing it yourself), that's what made me vote.Navizel wrote:
this vote really sucks. You even mentioned that we should abstain from voting randomly. Your vote isn't random but it's being impatient and it's not townlike.Zexion wrote:
Vote: Navizel
I got tired of waiting.P.S I won't be here during afternoon cause of my grad. I'll probably be back by night.Hmmm. I don't get the be careful part. You mentioned that I should be lynched with fire because I am scum right? If you're so sure that I am scum why would they be careful on voting a scum?Sakura wrote:
Also i think Navi's at L-1 now, might be L-2, but i'll say L-1 just to be safe. Be careful with the next vote.Why would you ask someone if you should unvoteZexion wrote:
Want me to unvote?
Sounds really familiar. Interesting you would make that connection, since I was justifying my surprise for Sakura's agreeing at Hika. Heat wasn't "on me" when I started saying this, you know.Navizel wrote:
It feels like you want to shift the attention to others so the heat won't be on you.
We had reached a conclusion over the initial problem, I was preparing to shift my vote to someone else but no one apeared at that moment.Sakura wrote:
@Zexion: I don't understand why you unvoted me here: p/4279800 since you could've kept your vote for pressure, if you had a townread on me or smth, then why not move your vote to Navizel at that point considering you also had issues with what he was doing.
I think you're refering to p/4281219. I'm pretty sure Navi was L-2 at that moment, and wanted to avoid L-1 because... yeah I said it. On the Slaini stuff, I was looking at the possible language mistake (or "bad choice of wording") for a non-native English Speaker. What else do you wanted me to say?Sakura wrote:
On the subject of Zexion: p/4281118 This post is really odd Doesn't want to vote Navi because possible L-1, yet Navi wasn't in danger of L-1 Back then, then votes Navi later when Navi's at L-2. And the only thing he ever says to Slaini is "Hi welcome, go here to learn how to play" Looking at it from another angle this post only talks about Navi's response to suspicion, who he was already suspecting anyway. Hika's post about him. And Slaini's scumslip. I'm pretty sure there's more stuff to comment on so I don't get why this post didn't comment on anything els
Just wanted to make clear, that I want to take a look at how the game rolls before making unuseful contributes. Still, I have to admit, that this might be an excusing for lurking, too.Sakura wrote:
p/4280488 This post makes me uneasy, lurker warning, has Slaini done anything other than his supposed scumslip that was proved to be... not an actual scumslip but translation error afterwards?
I just got told (p/4280507) that it is totally okay to vote people randomly in the beginning. That's why I decided to vote someone and I just stated, that I'm not mad, due to her voting me. So it was merely a random vote, which I didn't want to have any special background.Sakura wrote:
@Slaini: What the heck is with the choice of wording here: p/4280552 It's like "Oh hey im voting you, but you can just take it as a pat on the back!" also p/4280877 Jess never posted (or at least anything significant) between these 2 votes, so what was the point of your vote?, ALSO: You voted "Navi" for replying heh to my vote, what did that make you think of Jess replying ":^) "to your vote
I'm sorry if I upset you in any way. I did not mean to. I won't use this in any way anymore o.OSakura wrote:
p/4281024 I have a thing with people justifying their actions with "I'm newbie" this is a newbie game, of course there's going to be newbies, you don't need to justify being a newbie, however i hate it when ppl use that fact to justify stuff they do, if you have questions about the game ask or look in the mafiascum wiki, but dont try to justify your actions because "Oh sorry im just newbie", I've already had scum do that to me twice in the past. (Also this is the famous scumslip post lol).
Could you explain, what you mean there?Sakura wrote:
p/4281227 <- Trying to call out Navizel of Beetlejuicing when he wasn't doing as such.
Indeed, I did ignore it, rather because I knew, at this point, that he is right with what he said. When you posted that his answer to that is no excusion, I felt confirmed in my accusation. So I just let you answer to that, instead of me.Sakura wrote:
p/4281253 <- Ignored Navizel's reply to his accusation completely.
Don't know what's awkward about it. Also I don't know which second post you are talking about? You mean the one where he explained that werewolf is the same? I just thought that this is offtopic and not allowed to win the overhand here.Sakura wrote:
p/4281319 This (Slaini's, osu's being weird) and the next post are really awkward. And of course, Slaini completely ignoring Navi who he's scumreading... AGAIN.
) it still bothers me ) ) Either way, you're accusing Navizel of only appearing when you attacked him, which is similar to what i mentioned, but this would only be true if Navizel had been gone for a while, which wasn't true.Ah thanks for explaining, now I understand it.Sakura wrote:
I'm just gonna explain beetlejuicing since im having lunch soon:
Beetlejuice tell, well if you ever watched Beetlejuice you'd get the picture, is basically when a player appears as soon as he's getting mentioned (call his name 3 times
I'll be back after lunch.
hmmmsLaiNi wrote:
Just wanted to make clear, that I want to take a look at how the game rolls before making unuseful contributes. Still, I have to admit, that this might be an excusing for lurking, too.
If anything this explanation just makes it worse, what's the point of voting someone if they shouldn't feel threatened by your vote?sLaiNi wrote:
I just got told (p/4280507) that it is totally okay to vote people randomly in the beginning. That's why I decided to vote someone and I just stated, that I'm not mad, due to her voting me. So it was merely a random vote, which I didn't want to have any special background.
That ":^)" was just like an "Yes, I know, it's okay" for me. At that point I read through all posts and decided, that I think Navi is more suspicious, so that I'd rather vote him instead, which I did afterwards. So my unvote had nothing to do with Jess doing something, but instead with Navi doing something, in this case avoiding conversation.
You didn't upset me, but it is a scum tactic i'm aware of and i'm stating that i won't be taken by any "Sorry im just newbie i dont know what im doing" or similar excuses.sLaiNi wrote:
I'm sorry if I upset you in any way. I did not mean to. I won't use this in any way anymore o.O
Wait what?sLaiNi wrote:
Indeed, I did ignore it, rather because I knew, at this point, that he is right with what he said. When you posted that his answer to that is no excusion, I felt confirmed in my accusation. So I just let you answer to that, instead of me.
It feels like you're more concerned with how people look at you than actually finding scum.sLaiNi wrote:
Don't know what's awkward about it. Also I don't know which second post you are talking about? You mean the one where he explained that werewolf is the same? I just thought that this is offtopic and not allowed to win the overhand here.
I can agree with the former being town, but how did you get that feeling from my posts? as for the 2nd, how is that a reason to townread me? Even disregarding the meta that i shift votes a lot (which you wouldn't have any way of knowing), people normally tend to see vote hopping as scummy.sLaiNi wrote:
Town:
Sakura (The way she is ready to analyze everyone and being ready to shift her vote makes me pretty comfortable about her)
What do you mean by "just accepted".sLaiNi wrote:
Null-townish:
Zexion (The only thing that does make me think about him is, that he just accepted my potential scumslip)
Any post in particular that gave you such a feel?sLaiNi wrote:
SNB (Can't explain it that much, it's just a feel there )
Are you just sheeping Drezi's reasoning who seems to be absent from your reads list for some reason.sLaiNi wrote:
Null-scummish:
Hika (The way you just voted Zexion for scum, while he didn't give any reasoning for it makes me doubt )
Did you read my post about Navizel's claimsLaiNi wrote:
Pretty Scummish:
Navizel ( Though you might've been right about yourself not having time to post (Congratz for Exams
Why?, Why not use your vote TO find someone that's scummier? You have Hika on Null-Scum, yet you're keeping your vote on a claimed PR?sLaiNi wrote:
@Sakura, I keep your "don't vote Navizel" in mind, but I'll let my vote stay like this, until I find someone who seems to be even scummier
I can accept this explanation, however i still don't see you actually scumhunting outside of your debate with Navi, and your reasoning for suspecting Hika's similar to what Drezi brought up, so it feels like you could be scum just trying to follow the town.sLaiNi wrote:
Ah thanks for explaining, now I understand it.
It's more that I felt like he wasn't replying to your accusions on him (except that "heh"), but as soon as I voted for him, he started accusing me, despite you and Drezi have voted for him. The whole time he didn't give any statement on you two's accusations (I don't think he did until now[?]).
Or did you mean something different?
No.Hika wrote:
That is what I wanted.
To actually vote for them to get lynched? Might not be the smartest way, but I see it'll be better to vote who you aren't sure about.Sakura wrote:
If anything this explanation just makes it worse, what's the point of voting someone if they shouldn't feel threatened by your vote?
I accused him of not answering intentionally, which he denied with the reasoning, that he was absent and not online. I realised that this was true, so I gave up on that. But then you said, that this would not be an excuse, as he can't prove it. That's the same thing I was thinking, so I just didn't answer anymore.Sakura wrote:
Wait what?
That's so right. That is something I should definitly change. But that has nothing to do with me being scum, but rather with me not wanting to annoy you with bad contributions. What I want to say is, that I am indeed concerned about how people look at me, but depending on my actual person (me, who is playing this game) not the inGame character, which might be a scum and therefor might be an enemy (if you understand what I want to say there).Sakura wrote:
It feels like you're more concerned with how people look at you than actually finding scum.
You changed your suspected persons alot and there's nearly noone who you haven't analysed now. That's what I am relying on.Sakura wrote:
I can agree with the former being town, but how did you get that feeling from my posts? as for the 2nd, how is that a reason to townread me? Even disregarding the meta that i shift votes a lot (which you wouldn't have any way of knowing), people normally tend to see vote hopping as scummy.
Everyone is sceptical until now about that potential scumslip. It's like he knew for sure that it's impossible for me to be a scum. Still, I remember him writing one time that it "keeps bothering" him.Sakura wrote:
What do you mean by "just accepted".
Her posts on page 8.Sakura wrote:
Any post in particular that gave you such a feel?
Just missed him/her there, sorry thatfor. He/She would be a Null for me.Sakura wrote:
Are you just sheeping Drezi's reasoning who seems to be absent from your reads list for some reason.
Hm?Sakura wrote:
Did you read my post about Navizel's claim
Noone else followed Drezi, instead, everyone else is null-towning Hika. Wouldn't I have gone better with null-towning Hika, too, instead of going with the oppinion of Drezi, whose oppinion isn't the one of the other town members?Sakura wrote:
I can accept this explanation, however i still don't see you actually scumhunting outside of your debate with Navi, and your reasoning for suspecting Hika's similar to what Drezi brought up, so it feels like you could be scum just trying to follow the town.
Answered in the post above. You'd be Null, but after rethinking it (yes rethinking in the past 2 minutes) you are more leaning to townie, to me.Drezi wrote:
No.Hika wrote:
That is what I wanted.
I'm glad you're happy with my reaction but I can't say the same, I think Hika could use some more votes :^)
@Sakura My townread is because I liked what you were doing (like @Zexion, Unvote on Navi), and of course you could do that as scum aswell, but objectively everything one does could be done by scum aswell, so in the end I just have to draw the line somewhere and make up my mind.
@slaini you did not include me on your reads list, any particular reason?
I'm not so sure about Zexion now, what he's saying makes sense but I'd really like him to come forward with stuff himself, he's mainly just replying to stuff directed at him..?
What...? How the hell how I be telling you voted for me hastly if didn't know you voted for me...? This post doesn't make sense at all.Hika wrote:
Did you know I voted for you or did you purposely not want to say anything of it?
Kay'.Hika wrote:
place holder for now, don't feel like mafia today.
You sure? I've been directing some questions towards Hika regarding his/her (can someone tell me what to use) attitude, but Hika just seems to be evading whatever questions I make and now Hika is simply not in the mood for mafia. At the time of my last post I was just replying what had been directed to me and stuff. AFAIK, I am doing something.Drezi wrote:
I'm not so sure about Zexion now, what he's saying makes sense but I'd really like him to come forward with stuff himself, he's mainly just replying to stuff directed at him..?
Thank you. I overread that, because I didn't know what ISO means at that moment.Navizel wrote:
You mean ISOs? CB has them on the first page.
Welcome backAce Timing wrote:
late but
/confirm
Vote Static Nosie Bird
reason: stole #8 spot. I wanted that...
Hi there. Welcome back. RNG is already over but okay since you joined late.Ace Timing wrote:
late but
/confirm
Vote Static Nosie Bird
reason: stole #8 spot. I wanted that...
I don't even know where to begin pointing out the problems in this text.sLaiNi wrote:
To actually vote for them to get lynched? Might not be the smartest way, but I see it'll be better to vote who you aren't sure about.
So as question: Would you say it's smarter to not vote who you think is 100% scum, but instead vote someone who you aren't sure about, yet, to see their reactions?
sLaiNi wrote:
Null-townish:
Zexion (The only thing that does make me think about him is, that he just accepted my potential scumslip)
Scum Alert.sLaiNi wrote:
It's like he knew for sure that it's impossible for me to be a scum. Still, I remember him writing one time that it "keeps bothering" him.
Sakura dear, you're giving me too much credit. Also its a pretty serious accusation that could severly damage town.Sakura wrote:
sLaiNi wrote:
Null-townish:
Zexion (The only thing that does make me think about him is, that he just accepted my potential scumslip)Scum Alert.sLaiNi wrote:
It's like he knew for sure that it's impossible for me to be a scum. Still, I remember him writing one time that it "keeps bothering" him.
Scum Alert.
For one that thinks someone else know their alignment they're putting them as null-town.
Playstyle this game so far of both Slaini and Zexion has been fully reactive and the only person they've both scumhunted is Navizel, who turned out to be a PR.
Theory: Slaini and Zexion are in a scumteam and Zexion's the mastermind. And their designated mislynch was Navizel, who... SURPRISE!, is the person Zexion kept calling my attention to when i was arguing with him early game.
At this point i'd feel comfortable voting for either of the 2.
Sakura wrote:
who turned out to be a PR.
Or do you already know what role is he? Looks more like you're desperate to keep him alive.Navizel wrote:
I think that's up for you to decide. Even if it is, would you believe it?Static Noise Bird wrote:
So, are you claiming? You could claim, you didn't say you did. Need to be specific, can't take risks.
Post V/LA then. We can't read your mind and know what's happening in your real life. If there's something wrong that doesn't let you play, just say you can't because IRL Issues and we'll all understand that. Its better that saying "I'm not in the mood of answering questions".Hika wrote:
Okay? Should I specify that I have personal problems that restrict me from wanting to play mafia right now?
I don't think I should have to say that.
I'm thinking about looking for a replacement. If not, I'll answer all questions I have received.
Navizel wrote:
I think that's up for you to decide. Even if it is, would you believe it?Static Noise Bird wrote:
So, are you claiming? You could claim, you didn't say you did. Need to be specific, can't take risks.
Is that question directed to me or SNB? I feel like it's directed to SNB.Zexion wrote:
Or do you already know what role is he? Looks more like you're desperate to keep him alive.
I seriously don't like the way you word things here.Zexion wrote:
Sakura dear, you're giving me too much credit. Also its a pretty serious accusation that could severly damage town.
First of all, what evil plan could I have crafted? "Pretend you're newb and everything will go okay", "don't scumhunt at all". I mentioned Navizel early in game because you asked me for an active play (can't believe you still think I'm only being reactive).
Besides, what other player could I have talked about in the early game? Let's go back:
SNB: 1 RV Post.
Drezi: 1 Post, the list.
Sakura: Posting a lot
Navizel: Agreeing in every stance with you. (Like 3 posts or so)
Me
So tell me, from which other player could I have scumhunted? Or accused?
Bruh.sLaiNi wrote:
To actually vote for them to get lynched? Might not be the smartest way, but I see it'll be better to vote who you aren't sure about.Sakura wrote:
If anything this explanation just makes it worse, what's the point of voting someone if they shouldn't feel threatened by your vote?
So as question: Would you say it's smarter to not vote who you think is 100% scum, but instead vote someone who you aren't sure about, yet, to see their reactions?
You asked for reasonings about the townreads on you and the posts like this are exactly the reason. Well reasoned descriptive posts that have potential to turn out true.Sakura wrote:
Playstyle this game so far of both Slaini and Zexion has been fully reactive and the only person they've both scumhunted is Navizel, who turned out to be a PR.
Theory: Slaini and Zexion are in a scumteam and Zexion's the mastermind. And their designated mislynch was Navizel, who... SURPRISE!, is the person Zexion kept calling my attention to when i was arguing with him early game.
At this point i'd feel comfortable voting for either of the 2.
It might be directed at me, but I don't know how do I look to be desperate to keep you alive. Zexion looks desperate to rolefish on the other hand. As with Sakura, no, I'm not a day rolecop.Navizel wrote:
Is that question directed to me or SNB? I feel like it's directed to SNB.Zexion wrote:
Or do you already know what role is he? Looks more like you're desperate to keep him alive.
Why try-hard make baseless accusations on anyone? Other than RVS reaction fishing, that is (which yours quite frankly weren't).Zexion wrote:
So tell me, from which other player could I have scumhunted? Or accused?
Neither of you. It was directed towards Sakura: her believing so much in Navizel's claim despite how shady it was, I actually agree with SNB in this post.Navizel wrote:
Navizel wrote:
I think that's up for you to decide. Even if it is, would you believe it?Is that question directed to me or SNB? I feel like it's directed to SNB.Zexion wrote:
Or do you already know what role is he? Looks more like you're desperate to keep him alive.
You don't get the idea here. Sakura is saying that I was only directing her attention towards Navizel, but what else could have I done? Obviously I wouldn't make baseless acusations on someone, which is way I could only point stuff at Navizel this early in game. Or at least that's what I tried to tell.SNB wrote:
Why try-hard make baseless accusations on anyone? Other than RVS reaction fishing, that is (which yours quite frankly weren't).Zexion wrote:
So tell me, from which other player could I have scumhunted? Or accused?
Quality content here.Ace Timing wrote:
I'm rescinding my vote on SNB
unvote
I'm now casting my vote onto Zexion, general deflection and accusing people just because of simply ignoring accusations,
This wagon composition makes me sad.CalignoBot wrote:
[3] Zexion -- Hika, Static Noise Bird, Ace Timing
[2] Hika -- Drezi, Zexion
[2] sLaiNi -- Navizel, Sakura
[1] Navizel -- sLaiNi
[0] -[Jess]- --
[0] Ace Timing --
[0] Drezi --
[0] Sakura --
[0] Static Noise Bird --
[0] No Lynch -
Not Voting -- -[Jess]-
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Sakura wrote:
[@slaini's RVS]If anything this explanation just makes it worse, what's the point of voting someone if they shouldn't feel threatened by your vote?
While you seem to completely ignore Hika, and how she game me an almost perfect town score out of NOTHING after I voted her, pulling this "good, good all according to my scumhunting masterplan" why of course, I mean seriously now, it's the most blatant buddying I've seen.Sakura wrote:
and the only person they've both scumhunted is Navizel, who turned out to be a PR.
Theory: Slaini and Zexion are in a scumteam and Zexion's the mastermind. And their designated mislynch was Navizel, who... SURPRISE!, is the person Zexion kept calling my attention to when i was arguing with him early game.
What the hell, obviously she's going to vote if there's a scumslip, isn't "word's match her actions" it's the most natural thing in this case not a feat to highlight??Sakura wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/4281118 I still hold Hika that unlike everyone else, she spotted a scumslip and voted it immediately, so her actions match her words.
If we really wanna hand out town or scumpoints here (which I think is rather weak anyway) then you could say that scum is most desperate to start a wagon with a legit reason, others didn't rush it)Sakura wrote:
Yeah, Drezi that's the point, it's the most natural thing... everyone else was screaming "SCUMSLIP" yet never voted Slaini.
I think I outlined my reasons already? Unless you expect a page long case study day1 to place a vote when it comes to Hika?Sakura wrote:
Can you give me a concise bullet point reasons of why you think she's scum? Something like.
- She's saying this, while actually it happened like this.
- She's doing this, but she said this.
- The way she did this, shows that she's scum, because X.
That's exactly what I did there. Navizel was suspicious to me, so I voted him. So Mastin is rather supporting me, i guess.Sakura wrote:
Mastin wrote:
It’s well-known knowledge that the average scum ratio is 20-33%. If you think a player is more likely than that to be scum, you vote them.
Could you explain why I am town for you?Ace Timing wrote:
Current Reads:
Town:
Slaini
Null:
Everyone else.
So you dont even have a scumread on Zexion?Ace Timing wrote:
Current Reads:
Town:
Slaini
Null:
Everyone else.
It's not exactly like that. It's rather that I said, that he acted LIKE he knew for sure that I was town. That was the reason I didn't put him full-town instead.Sakura wrote:
I don't know why you think im accusing YOU of the bolded, but the only players that know the alignment of others are scum (as of right now at least), So Slaini putting you as null town while saying you know for certain he's town is not supposed to raise any flags for me?.
Then ask me out ^^Sakura wrote:
There are other things on that reads list that dont make sense with your actions and words...
Not you, Ace'ssLaiNi wrote:
Then ask me out ^^Sakura wrote:
There are other things on that reads list that dont make sense with your actions and words...
I think it should be the other way around.sLaiNi wrote:
Then ask me out ^^
Ahh I understand nowDrezi wrote:
I think it should be the other way around.sLaiNi wrote:
Then ask me out ^^
Jk what you meant is "ask me out" literally in my native language too ^^
Exactly, as i thought you were talking about my reads.Sakura wrote:
I gotta admit, that was the first impression i got when i read that, but then when i saw the quote i noticed he wanted me to ask him about it.
Either way, thing is, i have issues with Ace's read list, so the comment wasn't directed at Slaini.
If you really are going to go to sleep now, I wish you a good night then ^^Sakura wrote:
I think i should stay off this game until i wake up tomorrow, coz right now i feel like i want to hit someone.
I mean that reads posts was so bad im at a loss for words.
Unvote
Vote: Ace
Back here.
Maybe i'll sheep you again on Hika tomorrow or not, pending on Ace's replies.
Yes, he probably didn't read the whole conversation yet. So he's just writing some nonesense so he doesn't get kicked off, I guess.Drezi wrote:
It reminds me of my first post. Not something I'd try to make a case over
Ace Timing wrote:
I'm rescinding my vote on SNB
unvote
I'm now casting my vote onto Zexion, general deflection and accusing people just because of simply ignoring accusations,
Ace Timing wrote:
forgot to cast vote kek
vote Zexion
I'll just just now put these quotes together, if you can't see it, then i'll explain it tomorrow.Ace Timing wrote:
Current Reads:
Town:
Slaini
Null:
Everyone else.
Anyone could explain it before it's tomorrow for Sakura? Don't want to wait that long.Sakura wrote:
Ace Timing wrote:
I'm rescinding my vote on SNB
unvote
I'm now casting my vote onto Zexion, general deflection and accusing people just because of simply ignoring accusations,Ace Timing wrote:
forgot to cast vote kek
vote ZexionI'll just just now put these quotes together, if you can't see it, then i'll explain it tomorrow.Ace Timing wrote:
Current Reads:
Town:
Slaini
Null:
Everyone else.
for the goodnight post, I guess you're being polite but it can be seen as trying to get on Sakura's good side since she scumread you.Ah okay, I understand now. It's just that I feel like, despite this being a game where we all are potential enemies, we should be polite to the person sitting in front of the desktopDrezi wrote:
I meant the
Ace Timing is just doing random whatever like we've seen some new people do in previous games, and it turned out to be non alignment indicative, I reeeeally don't think we should be obsessing with it, when there's actual legit cases to look at.
I though it was still in RVS at that time.Sakura wrote:
@Jess: This post: p/4280276 indicates you read the debate between me and Zexion (and i guess Navi) why didn't you comment on anything that happened and why did you vote Slaini when there was plenty other info to go on?
i don't seen a part he has been "contributing"Sakura wrote:
Also what part of Slaini has been "contributing"?
Could you please elaborate on why do you townread Zexion? Also where is Navi on your list?-[Jess]- wrote:
Town:
Sakura
[She seen to contributing(It just my view)]
Zexion
Drezi
Null:
Slaini
(I am still a bit of suspects of you)
SNB
Hika
Scum:
Ace Timing
(he posts make no any sense at all)
Oh wow. Fuck. Think the scumteam might not be Zexion/Slaini anymore. I'll hold my vote till tomorrow morning though (or tonight, depending on how long can I force myself to stay up) since I want to see what Hika has to say about Drezi and Sakura's posts and more importantly what Ace has to say.Sakura wrote:
Ace Timing wrote:
I'm rescinding my vote on SNB
unvote
I'm now casting my vote onto Zexion, general deflection and accusing people just because of simply ignoring accusations,Ace Timing wrote:
forgot to cast vote kek
vote ZexionI'll just just now put these quotes together, if you can't see it, then i'll explain it tomorrow.Ace Timing wrote:
Current Reads:
Town:
Slaini
Null:
Everyone else.
Assuming Drezi is the second, who is the third one and why?Sakura wrote:
I also dislike the fact that after all this i still only have 3 townreads, and one of them is only because "Claimed something that will die tonight, so idc"
i can't , it just my silly thoughtStatic Noise Bird wrote:
Could you please elaborate on why do you townread Zexion? Also where is Navi on your list?
I pretend you are talking about Ace being scumteam with me. If that's the case: Don't you think it's a bit hastily to react like this to something, which seems like pure random vote / random read.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Oh wow. Fuck. Think the scumteam might not be Zexion/Slaini anymore. I'll hold my vote till tomorrow morning though (or tonight, depending on how long can
Assuming Drezi is the second, who is the third one and why?
Didn't expect an answer like this though.Ace Timing wrote:
Just a note to you guys, I'm not making a random read here, I'm not an idiot. I maybe a newbie, but I'm intelligent enough to read the ISOs. Please don't assume I'm an idiot stuck in RVS. There's a reason that Slaini is the only one in my townlist, and there is also a reason why I don't feel the need to elaborate. Does making sudden reads make you scum? Is this how the game is played? Do scum always act irrational and unpredictably? No. Do you know why? Because of the nature of their win condition. Scum are the ones who play the game the most carefully, because they are the one's most in danger. So please guys don't just go "hurr durr read didn't make sense he's scum".
kek.
You're corrent on Drezi, the 3rd was Hika... at the time, im still not sure what to think, because Drezi's poitns also make sense.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Assuming Drezi is the second, who is the third one and why?
You're very close to my true intentions, but you're off a bit. Here's a little hint. My vote on Slaini wasn't a townread, but it also wasn't a scum read. I didn't pick Slaini arbitrarily, but it didn't have to be him. Have funSakura wrote:
tell me, why would you even move your vote from a nullread to a nullread?, 2 reasons, 1 you townread the person you're currently voting, 2, you scumread the person you switched your vote onto.
From Ace's post, you would think he'd be scumreading Zexion, however, Zexion doesn't appear anywhere as scum, "But Zexion could still be a null read Sakura!" Then why move the vote off SNB?, one would think because SNB became a townread.... which SUPRISE! it's also absent from his town list.
Then also: Slaini's reply to "So she's probably saying that i'm scum!" makes me think he's self-conscious if he thinks that would involve him as a scumspect. I mean really, why would i even bother quoting Ace's unvote and vote if it was just about him putting Slaini as a townread?.
Why is this a surprise? Heck, I explained this posts ago and I think my reason was at least valid.Sakura wrote:
And now i realize that Zexion's also voting Hika..
I don't even know what to do anymore.
Huh? I don't even remember me claiming you were town. For the Nth time, it was the way you worded your "scumsplip" that caught my attention and I thought it could have been some words making sense in german but being suspicious in english. Please don't make me repeat this again.sLaiNi wrote:
It's not exactly like that. It's rather that I said, that he acted LIKE he knew for sure that I was town. That was the reason I didn't put him full-town instead.Sakura wrote:
I don't know why you think im accusing YOU of the bolded, but the only players that know the alignment of others are scum (as of right now at least), So Slaini putting you as null town while saying you know for certain he's town is not supposed to raise any flags for me?.
Just to add a litltle off-game thing here, we're not exactly a happy family in this game, its like we suspect each other so its not exactly the place to build friendships. Of course, what happens in mafia stays in mafia so outside its all good ^_^Drezi wrote:
I meant the
This was already asked at that time. Why are you repeating questions? Ace didn't post since the list until now so its not like he was evading the question or something.Navizel wrote:
I don't really like Ace Timing's post. He didn't even explain his reads. Why is Slaini town and Zexion null?
Oh you. You think you're some sort of quizmaster and we have to discover your thoughts to win a prize? Your post is basically useless as you don't feel like explaining the reasoning behind your actions. Doing so only hurts town because we are unable to view things like you do and draw new conclussions. Also no one is saying you're an idiot or something like that (let's not get offensive) but rather, how your actions doesn't seem to fit at this stage of the game.Ace Timing wrote:
You're very close to my true intentions, but you're off a bit. Here's a little hint. My vote on Slaini wasn't a townread, but it also wasn't a scum read. I didn't pick Slaini arbitrarily, but it didn't have to be him. Have funSakura wrote:
tell me, why would you even move your vote from a nullread to a nullread?, 2 reasons, 1 you townread the person you're currently voting, 2, you scumread the person you switched your vote onto.
From Ace's post, you would think he'd be scumreading Zexion, however, Zexion doesn't appear anywhere as scum, "But Zexion could still be a null read Sakura!" Then why move the vote off SNB?, one would think because SNB became a townread.... which SUPRISE! it's also absent from his town list.
Then also: Slaini's reply to "So she's probably saying that i'm scum!" makes me think he's self-conscious if he thinks that would involve him as a scumspect. I mean really, why would i even bother quoting Ace's unvote and vote if it was just about him putting Slaini as a townread?.
Actually if scum decides to give up themselves, we can offer them amnesty, and we can chill out here together, and live a happy long life on our little town, without all the bloodshed? How about that?Zexion wrote:
Just to add a litltle off-game thing here, we're not exactly a happy family in this game, its like we suspect each other so its not exactly the place to build friendships.