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NoHitter
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Kytoxid
[General]

Ouch, that background is so low-res. =/
Why a red timing section to start kiai?
Cyndaquil and Lugia have different kiai than the others, take a look.

[Meganium] 00:49:867 (5) - Don't like this concealed slider.
[Meganium] 00:50:514 - Double timing section here.
[Lugia] Different hitcircle colours, intended?
[Lugia] 00:12:367 (4) - Reverse this slider?
[Lugia] 00:15:988 (1) - This 2x BPM slider doesn't really make sense.
[Lugia] 00:20:902 (9,1) - Space them out a bit more? (didn't like the overlapping stream before, but whatever. :P)
[Lugia] 00:24:005 (2,3,4) - Deceptive spacing.
[Lugia] 00:30:730 (1) - Might be better if you made this the same length as the previous one, and removed the 2 kicksliders, for consistency.
[Lugia] 00:56:074 (1,2,3) - Very hard to read, don't put a 1/2 BPM slider followed by a bunch of identical-looking 1xBPM sliders.
[Ho-oh] 00:20:126 (2,3,4) - Quite hard to read timing on this.
[Ho-oh] 00:25:557 (1) - Shorten this by a repeat (so it doesn't repeat), and then add a beat 1/4 before the next repeating slider sounds really cool.
[Ho-oh] 00:40:298 (1) - Don't think this fits quite well.
[Ho-oh] 00:49:867 (6) - Same thing about this concealed slider.
[Ho-oh] 00:52:712 (1) - Don't think this fits either. XD

Poke me after you've taken a look. :)
jockeytiyan

Kytoxid wrote:

[Lugia] Different hitcircle colours, intended? Yes.
[Lugia] 00:12:367 (4) - Reverse this slider? Nah, I like the jump. But I'll try to get a second opinion for it.
[Lugia] 00:15:988 (1) - This 2x BPM slider doesn't really make sense. Guess what, I agree. Let's change it.
[Lugia] 00:20:902 (9,1) - Space them out a bit more? (didn't like the overlapping stream before, but whatever. :P) lol, I can't space them up farther. DS makes it go farther to the next slider (for the whole combo), while relocating it elsewhere doesn't really make sense for me. I just hid (1) in (9) so it wouldn't take up much distance. Sorry~
[Lugia] 00:24:005 (2,3,4) - Deceptive spacing. I think this is allowed, I wanna keep it that way.
[Lugia] 00:30:730 (1) - Might be better if you made this the same length as the previous one, and removed the 2 kicksliders, for consistency. TOLD YOU SO NOHITTER! HA!
[Lugia] 00:56:074 (1,2,3) - Very hard to read, don't put a 1/2 BPM slider followed by a bunch of identical-looking 1xBPM sliders. Lengthened and re-snapped. :3
Darn, I sound like a stubborn mapper...

Download: PJ Lequerica - Pokemon Johto (TV Size) (NoHItter) [Lugia].osu
Topic Starter
NoHitter

Kytoxid wrote:

[General]

Ouch, that background is so low-res. =/
Why a red timing section to start kiai?
Cyndaquil and Lugia have different kiai than the others, take a look.

[Meganium] 00:49:867 (5) - Don't like this concealed slider.
[Meganium] 00:50:514 - Double timing section here.
[Lugia] Different hitcircle colours, intended?
[Lugia] 00:12:367 (4) - Reverse this slider?
[Lugia] 00:15:988 (1) - This 2x BPM slider doesn't really make sense.
[Lugia] 00:20:902 (9,1) - Space them out a bit more? (didn't like the overlapping stream before, but whatever. :P)
[Lugia] 00:24:005 (2,3,4) - Deceptive spacing.
[Lugia] 00:30:730 (1) - Might be better if you made this the same length as the previous one, and removed the 2 kicksliders, for consistency.
[Lugia] 00:56:074 (1,2,3) - Very hard to read, don't put a 1/2 BPM slider followed by a bunch of identical-looking 1xBPM sliders.
[Ho-oh] 00:20:126 (2,3,4) - Quite hard to read timing on this.
[Ho-oh] 00:25:557 (1) - Shorten this by a repeat (so it doesn't repeat), and then add a beat 1/4 before the next repeating slider sounds really cool.
[Ho-oh] 00:40:298 (1) - Don't think this fits quite well.
[Ho-oh] 00:49:867 (6) - Same thing about this concealed slider.
[Ho-oh] 00:52:712 (1) - Don't think this fits either. XD

Poke me after you've taken a look. :)
Those "concealed sliders" are to emphasize the repeating of the lyrics :|. But everything else is done
The red timing section is because the time signature resets there
Combo colors fixed
Jinxy
[Crocrocaw]
You sure this is spelled right?
The snap is setting itself to 1/6, move it back to 1/4.

[Meganium]
00:49:867 (5) - lolno

[Lugia]
00:24:911 (4) - loldickmove
00:53:488 (4) - 1 grid down

[Ho-Oh]
00:49:867 (6) - lolanotherdickmove

Starres
Topic Starter
NoHitter
Oh fine. No more concealed sliders :|
Jinxy
00:24:911 (4) - Okay, should have been more specific. (4) is too far from (3), imo.

I'll proto this.
YGOkid8
Cyndaquil
00:58:919 (1) - IMO too short for Easy, assuming:

Cyndaquil = Easy
Croconaw = Normal
Meganium = Hard
Lugia = Insane
Ho-oh = Insane

Croconaw
I think there's a bit too many Finish sounds here. Think you can reduce a bit...?

Meganium
Fine.

Lugia
I... don't like the usage of Whistles at the start :|

Ho-oh
Same thing with Croconaw with the Finish sounds.
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Seeing how the scores and difficulty is so similar for Lugia and Ho-oh, is it really needed to have those two? Just a thought. Otherwise, not many problems, so star ~ ☆
James2250
slightly confused why this is pubbled
*popped*

is there meant to be an un-inherited timing section starting kiai?
there is no reason for kiai times to be different across diff's, make them all the same

Cyndaquil:
00:55:816 (5) - move to 00:55:557
00:56:074 (1) - start to 00:55:816
(make all the kiai times like this)

Croconaw:
00:55:816 (4) - move to 00:55:557
00:55:945 (1) - move to 00:55:816
00:58:919 (1,2,3,4) - center on grid

Meganium:
00:06:161 - add note
00:06:290 (3) - move to 00:06:419
00:08:230 - add note
00:08:359 (3) - move to 00:08:488
00:18:574 (1,2) - move up 3 tiny grids to mirror other combo
00:22:712 (1,2) - move up 2 tiny grids to mirror other combo
00:58:919 (1,2,3,4) - put on horizontal center line?

Lugia:
00:05:643 (3,4) - switch position of 3 and 4
00:07:454 (2,3) - switch position of 2 and 3
00:11:980 (3,4) - spacing..move 4 closer or turn it the other way around
00:16:635 (5) - move slider so it isnt under all the other notes
00:24:523 (3,4) - spacing
00:39:005 (1,2,3) - keep spacing equal
00:47:540 (1) - move to 00:47:281
00:48:574 (1) - move to 00:48:316
00:49:867 (1) - move to 00:49:350
00:49:350 (1) - move up
00:50:126 (1) - start at 00:49:867

Ho-oh:
00:06:290 (3) - move to 00:06:419
00:08:359 (3) - move to 00:08:488
00:20:126 (2,3,4) - spacing
00:29:954 (3) - add note
00:34:092 (3) - ^
00:43:661 (5,1) - align?

PM me after fixes and I will will re-pubble....
Topic Starter
NoHitter

James2250 wrote:

is there meant to be an un-inherited timing section starting kiai? - The time signature resets there.
there is no reason for kiai times to be different across diff's, make them all the same - There's a break in Cyndaquil. You want to use kiai on a break? and in Lugia there will be no note to start kiai on there

Cyndaquil:
00:55:816 (5) - move to 00:55:557 done
00:56:074 (1) - start to 00:55:816 done
(make all the kiai times like this)

Croconaw:
00:55:816 (4) - move to 00:55:557 done
00:55:945 (1) - move to 00:55:816 done
00:58:919 (1,2,3,4) - center on grid viewtopic.php?f=29&t=21548

Meganium:
00:06:161 - add note no
00:06:290 (3) - move to 00:06:419 -it follows the lyrics
00:08:230 - add note no
00:08:359 (3) - move to 00:08:488 -it follows the lyrics
00:18:574 (1,2) - move up 3 tiny grids to mirror other combo done
00:22:712 (1,2) - move up 2 tiny grids to mirror other combo done
00:58:919 (1,2,3,4) - put on horizontal center line? viewtopic.php?f=29&t=21548

Lugia:
00:05:643 (3,4) - switch position of 3 and 4 viewtopic.php?f=61&t=23024
00:07:454 (2,3) - switch position of 2 and 3 viewtopic.php?f=61&t=23024
00:11:980 (3,4) - spacing..move 4 closer or turn it the other way around
00:16:635 (5) - move slider so it isnt under all the other notes
00:24:523 (3,4) - spacing
00:39:005 (1,2,3) - keep spacing equal
00:47:540 (1) - move to 00:47:281
00:48:574 (1) - move to 00:48:316
00:49:867 (1) - move to 00:49:350
00:49:350 (1) - move up
00:50:126 (1) - start at 00:49:867

Ho-oh:
00:06:290 (3) - move to 00:06:419 -it follows the lyrics
00:08:359 (3) - move to 00:08:488 -it follows the lyrics
00:20:126 (2,3,4) - spacing - they're properly spaced
00:29:954 (3) - add note no
00:34:092 (3) - ^ -no
00:43:661 (5,1) - align? - no

PM me after fixes and I will will re-pubble....
James2250
I meant remove the kiai time from 00:47:281 to 00:50:643 as I don't really think it fits but I guess up to you
jockeytiyan

James2250 wrote:

Lugia:
00:05:643 (3,4) - switch position of 3 and 4 lol no.
00:07:454 (2,3) - switch position of 2 and 3 ^
00:11:980 (3,4) - spacing..move 4 closer or turn it the other way around ^
00:16:635 (5) - move slider so it isnt under all the other notes Reversed slider.
00:24:523 (3,4) - spacing I know right? No.
00:39:005 (1,2,3) - keep spacing equal Looks ugly, but still done.
00:47:540 (1) - move to 00:47:281 No.
00:48:574 (1) - move to 00:48:316 ^
00:49:867 (1) - move to 00:49:350 ^
00:49:350 (1) - move up I guess this is a typo. lol
00:50:126 (1) - start at 00:49:867 No.
This time, I'm not being cooperative with the mods. orz. Sorry~

Download: PJ Lequerica - Pokemon Johto (TV Size) (NoHItter) [Lugia].osu
Topic Starter
NoHitter
Updated, but I agree with this:
00:24:523 (3,4) - spacing
I believe it's unrankable
James2250
Cyndaquil:
fine

Croconaw:
fine

Meganium:
I still think 00:06:290 (3) and 00:08:359 (3) sound much better on the white ticks but whatever

Lugia:
00:11:592 (2,3,4) - I won't agree with this spacing unless you can really show me its ok
2 and 3 are 1/4 apart and are right next to each other. 3 and 4 are 1/4 apart and are very far away from each other...equal spacing is needed..
00:16:635 (5) - this is still under a whole bunch of notes.can't you make it so we can actually see its a slider easily?
00:24:523 (3,4) - as much as you seem to like disagreeing.....spacing. check distance snap and im 100% sure this wont be ranked
00:49:867 (1) - I said move this up so it isnt half way off the grid for no real reason

Ho-oh:
00:06:290 (3), 00:08:359 (3) - same comment as earlier..

Fix the problems on Lugia at least and I suppose I will pubble (will let BAT's complain about anything else)
jockeytiyan
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: PJ Lequerica - Pokemon Johto (TV Size) (NoHItter) [Lugia].osu
James2250
Although I could keep complaining about minor things I have a feeling you wouldn't want to change them :P (at least spacing seems better now)

Pubbled!! :)
Topic Starter
NoHitter
Thanks
jockeytiyan
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
iDwarf
~Overall~
  1. Even if you have a video, some people use no video. So I suggest to change BG to higher quality.
  2. Offset in first section feels too early.
  3. Make kiai without breaks; Similar in all difficulties

Good map. Star~
blissfulyoshi
Not touching the p-bubble.

Source: Change the source to" Pokemon: The Johto Journeys" (well that is what the video says)

Cyndaquil:
Combo mod:
00:23:488 (1) - remove new combo to be consistent with 00:19:867 (4)?

Croconaw:
Normal mod:
00:19:609 (1,2,3,4,5) - hard to see (but I don't think much can be done about that)

Meganium: fine

Lugia:
Normal mod:
00:06:290 (6) and 00:08:359 (6) - bring down stack leniency 2 notches to make these 2 notes look better
00:20:902 (9) - this is disorienting for me since there is a half note pause for this note in a slightly hard to read stream

Ho-oh: fine (I sort of have the complaint with 00:16:764 (9) as I did with Lugia's 00:20:902 (9), but this one is easier to read)

=====================================
Nice map. Star.
jockeytiyan

blissfulyoshi wrote:

Cyndaquil:
Combo mod:
00:23:488 (1) - remove new combo to be consistent with 00:19:867 (4)? Moved new combo to 00:25:557 (1) -

Lugia:
Normal mod:
00:06:290 (6) and 00:08:359 (6) - bring down stack leniency 2 notches to make these 2 notes look better Done. :3
00:20:902 (9) - this is disorienting for me since there is a half note pause for this note in a slightly hard to read stream Added a note at the "half-note" pause. ^^
Done and all. ^^

Download: PJ Lequerica - Pokemon Johto (TV Size) (NoHItter) [Cyndaquil].osu


Download: PJ Lequerica - Pokemon Johto (TV Size) (NoHItter) [Lugia].osu

YGOkid8
don't have to do this, but maybe to the Tags, you could add the season number for it (ie. What season this opening was used)? Just a thought. (no kds for this post kthxbai)
Lokamp
Cjndaquil
00:17:798 (1,3) - whistle here
00:21:936 (1,2) - clap the 1st, whistle the 2nd

Croconaw
00:30:212 (1) - whistle here
00:33:574 (3) - ...clap?
00:54:523 (2,3,4) - refine spacing, it's not really clear...

Meganium
[General] maybe more claps in this mode can make it better...
00:54:781 (4,5) - move them 21-2 squares down

Lugia
Sounds fine!

Ho-oh
[General] apply some of the AIMode's suggestions for this mode...
00:52:195 (2,3) - move them a square up and a square right

A final hint before starring this good map: make the spinner on 00:41:850 (Ho-oh) start at the same time in the other modes!
DerekMcD
*Star*
Aoitenshi
Ho-oh:
00:17:540 - 00:18:833 = For the sake of symmetry, Move these note 2 Grid up in Level 3 Grid (The note position is not symmetric vertically)
00:21:678 - 00:22:971 = ^

Croconaw:
00:17:798 = Missing Finish?
00:21:936 = ^
RandomJibberish
Wow the bg's horrible. I've attactched one that isn't quite the same but at least it's good quality lol.

Meganium

00:08:747 (1) - I don't like how this sounds. either reduce the volume or change the hitsounds


Lugia

00:20:385 (6,7,8,9,10) - Really hard to read :/

No other problems, Star~
Teara
Good map, I cant see a real problem

Small IRC mod for [Ho-oh]

Star!
Garven
[Cyndaquil]
00:05:627 Starting on an offbeat (red tick) threw me off a bit, but afterward it was fine.

[Croconaw]
00:05:385 [1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3] Are these purposely not lined up straight?

[Meganium]
00:09:264 Spacing? I didn't have a problem reading it, so meh.
00:23:488 [1, 2, 3, 4] The timing on the 3, 4 made me 50 and flub up on the followup beats.

[Lugia]
00:20:126 [4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9,10] I couldn't see the return hits at all.

[Ho-oh]
The OD was brutal to me on this one. Make one or two mistakes and you're dead.
jockeytiyan
Won't change anything. :P
Chacha17
Since many people have already modded it, obviously i can't find any major issues.. Nazi. as usual.

Croconaw
00:07:454 (1,2,3) - gah, make this pattern a straight line. looks better imo
00:39:523 (2,3) - move one grid up

Meganium
00:33:574 (2) - this slider is touching the life bar. I'm just worrying about those people who are using that skin with a very huge life bar Touhou Skin lol

Lugia
00:08:747 (8) - sounded weird when you removed the whistle and replaced with a finish (Could only be me, though)
00:09:005 (10) - ^
best diff <3

Ho-Oh
00:40:557 (4) - remove the whistle on the slider's body and add a whistle to the slider head?
00:44:436 (1,2) - move one grid up so that it aligns to the previous beat

here you go :>
Derekku
[General]
*Could you use a better bg image than a rip from the video? It's not bad, but it's kinda choppy. :S

[Cyndaquil]
Looks fine.

[Croconaw]
00:37:842 (5) - random offbeat; perhaps make 4,5 into a slider?
00:41:204 (1) - On every other diff, this starts on the red tick. :S

[Meganium]
Good.

[Lugia]
00:06:807 (9) - unreadable under the previous stream's hitbursts
00:08:876 (9) - ^
00:15:212 (1,2,3) - kinda confusing. Perhaps stack 3 on the end of 2 instead.
00:20:126 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - wayyyy too confusing and hard-to-read. I didn't even know that 7 was under there. .-.
00:29:954 (3,1) - felt awkward to me. Perhaps give 3 two extra repeats and start 1 on the white tick?
00:35:901 (5,8) - stacking like this is a little hard to see and blended in with the video; could you have them touching instead of stacked?
00:55:428 (7) - hard to tell that this is a slider until a few ms before

[Ho-oh]
00:16:247 (6) - hidden note
00:29:436 (2) - two more repeats? o:
00:33:574 (2) - ^
00:58:919 (1,2,3) - I realllllly advise against doing this. Perhaps try this instead?
ztrot
5ms early fix that I'll bubble
to both offsets
ztrot
poof
Derekku
Dammit, I keep forgetting to see if a map is already pubbled while I'm modding. I should've popped and repubbled this. :o

EDIT: I still see hidden notes on [Lugia], and although I can't officially pop a bubble, I'll leave this post here and pop the pubble. orz
Topic Starter
NoHitter

Derekku Chan wrote:

EDIT: I still see hidden notes on [Lugia], and although I can't officially pop a bubble, I'll leave this post here and pop the pubble. orz
Incidentally, you can see part of the note because the previous note is stacked about it.
ztrot
bubble repair
jockeytiyan
o.o


I haven't fixed anything yet and it's already bubbled...?

Should I be happy or angry?

It's not my fault I wasn't online for 3 days...
Derekku
Please go ahead and fix your diff(s), jockey.

orz
Starrodkirby86
Hello.

[Lugia]:
00:15:212 (1,2,3) - Something here doesn't give me good vibes, mainly (3). It's quite hard to read as it's stacked under (2) and can kind of get blocked by a hitburst.
00:16:376 (4) - Should you replace these into hitcircles?
00:20:126 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - The cramped nature of this combo in general gives some confusion...Not to mention how underspaced (1) is while being under the slider. ;x Just hard-to-read.

[Ho-oh]:
Dare I be nazi and say it's Ho-Oh? :U

I'd rather not pop the bubble quite yet, as I would personally want to talk to Jockey about this more. Whenever it's a good time. XD
jockeytiyan
Please do. I'd be more happy to do it in IRC rather than browse this freaking thread...
[Strike]
star
Starrodkirby86
All better now!

EDIT: Repair.
Topic Starter
NoHitter

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

All better now!

EDIT: Repair.
Thanks
Ephemeral
The background is of pretty abominable quality.

Could you find a better one? I downloaded a DVDrip of a Pokemon Johto episode in the effort to find a better one and maybe improve the quality of the backing video you have now, but it's plastered with watermarks..

This is a pretty dumb thing to pop a bubble over, but the BG really is quite bad.

Everything else looks okay aside from that though.
Topic Starter
NoHitter

Ephemeral wrote:

The background is of pretty abominable quality.

Could you find a better one? I downloaded a DVDrip of a Pokemon Johto episode in the effort to find a better one and maybe improve the quality of the backing video you have now, but it's plastered with watermarks..

This is a pretty dumb thing to pop a bubble over, but the BG really is quite bad.

Everything else looks okay aside from that though.
I've searched through a lot of databases; I even went and downloaded a video like you did...

Edit: Updated
mrtn
first offset +20ms and inherit all sections. If you do +20 on the first offset there is no need for the second offset.

[croconaw]
00:46:722 (1,2,3) - slowdown is too surprising for a normal imo

btw, updated background is fine imo.

edit: bubbled
Larto
meep
arien666
Good job NoHItter XD
Anyway,

Good luck for your next songs :3
Topic Starter
NoHitter
Thanks :D
DJPop
This map shouldn't proper a low rating imo >__>
It's not that bad.
Andrea
Heart fixed.
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