22:22 Spaghetti: ey wanna testplay something
22:22 guineaQ: ok
22:22 Spaghetti: since your mapping this too I figured I cam come to you for soma advice and stuff
22:22 *Spaghetti is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/705018 P*Light ft. Yukacco - Stargazer (Dj Shimamura Remix)]
22:23 guineaQ: yeah that song
22:23 guineaQ: too repetitive for me
22:23 guineaQ: its catchy
22:23 guineaQ: but not enough to drive me to map 5 minutes of it
22:23 Spaghetti: are you not mapping it?
22:23 Spaghetti: o yey
22:23 Spaghetti: lol
22:23 Spaghetti: I love this song
22:23 guineaQ: what kind of reaction is that lol
22:23 Spaghetti: I started it yesterday
22:23 guineaQ: "o yey"
22:23 *guineaQ is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/705018 P*Light ft. Yukacco - Stargazer (Dj Shimamura Remix) [Unattainable]]
22:24 Spaghetti: so I don't get rekt by you if you getting it approved before me lol
22:26 guineaQ: I was expecting
22:26 guineaQ: kiai
22:26 guineaQ: to be much more jumpier
22:26 Spaghetti: lol
22:27 guineaQ: 00:38:108 (6,7,8) - as I expected
22:27 guineaQ: you silenced the slider end
22:27 guineaQ: well you probably seen my version already
22:27 guineaQ: I use much more sliders for the intro
22:28 guineaQ: not saying your way of doing it is wrong
22:28 guineaQ: but I feel like having  seamless slider rhythm is more fitting
22:29 Spaghetti: ah
22:29 Spaghetti: and is it bad that I silenced slider ends?
22:29 guineaQ: afaik
22:29 guineaQ: it CAN BE unrankable issue
22:29 guineaQ: idk so many things change these days
22:29 Spaghetti: That's what dadadadadadada did
22:29 guineaQ: haven't really checked back on that rule
22:30 guineaQ: btw
22:30 guineaQ: 01:06:394 - you need to map this part out
22:30 guineaQ: or else you won't have enough drain time
22:30 guineaQ: well you might
22:30 Spaghetti: OKI
22:30 guineaQ: but ITS REALLY edgy
22:30 Spaghetti: OH
22:30 guineaQ: like you would be like
22:30 guineaQ: so close
22:30 Spaghetti: wait
22:30 Spaghetti: no
22:30 Spaghetti: i dont need to map it
22:30 guineaQ: lemme calculate it
22:30 Spaghetti: i already calculated times
22:31 guineaQ: you will be
22:31 guineaQ: really close though
22:31 Spaghetti: it's be 5:00 on the dot
22:31 Spaghetti: well not on the dot
22:31 Spaghetti: but it'll be 5:00
22:31 Spaghetti: if not I'll add a spinner aylmao
22:31 guineaQ: 05:11:537 - this is where your map will end
22:32 guineaQ: in kiai
22:32 guineaQ: 02:17:537 (7) - 
22:32 guineaQ: this jump
22:32 guineaQ: made me
22:32 guineaQ: go wut
22:32 guineaQ: its like
22:32 guineaQ: your emphasizing beats by making them closer not further lol
22:33 Spaghetti: 7 and wut
22:33 guineaQ: 02:16:851 (3,4,5,6) - like i dont get
22:33 Spaghetti: 7 and 1?
22:33 guineaQ: why these are spaced equally
22:34 Spaghetti: yeah that jump section does kinda suck
22:34 guineaQ: 02:17:537 - this place should be more of slider end
22:34 guineaQ: rather than clickable circle
22:34 guineaQ: imo you can even leave it blank
22:34 guineaQ: that way the jump you SHOULD make on 02:17:366 - 
22:34 guineaQ: will be much more emphasized
22:36 guineaQ: and dw
22:36 guineaQ: I don't think anyone will rank this song anytime soon
22:36 guineaQ: everyone is lazy zz
22:36 Spaghetti: lol
22:36 Spaghetti: I started this yesterday rip
22:37 Spaghetti: I have no life
22:37 guineaQ: nah
22:37 guineaQ: well yeah I'm not mapping this song anytime soon lol
22:37 guineaQ: 2repetitive4me
22:38 Spaghetti: can you test the jumps now?
22:38 Spaghetti: I think I fixed them
22:38 guineaQ: ok looks better

Xexxar wrote:

00:06:051 (1,2) - moving this pair of notes upward and to the right would allow for 2 and 3 to flow into each other better.
ex: http://puu.sh/i6W8t/68e63907e0.jpg (could also apply to 00:10:851 (5,6) - ex: http://puu.sh/i6Wb4/c70fd0b5a9.jpg )

00:16:337 (6,7) - moving 6 and 7 over slight to the left so that they're "blanketed" to 5 might be advisable | ex: http://puu.sh/i6Wfa/fc1d21d653.jpg Doesn't really add much to to playability, will change if others suggest.

00:17:537 (3) - this slider is angled ever so below where 4 ends up. consider adjusting this ever so slightly (non grid snap necessary)

00:19:766 (1,2) - moving 1 so it's slightly blanketed over 9 might be advisable | ex: http://puu.sh/i6Wlk/41824d38b5.jpg

00:34:337 () - 00:34:680 () - it's playable the way it is, but it might be better played if there were slider ends on those beats. ex: http://puu.sh/i6Wuu/02257bd852.jpg No thanks, this is mapped strictly to the wub.

00:36:223 (1) - could be angled towards 2, i don't see what reason it's not in the map so I thought i'd point it out

00:39:480 (3) - blanket is slightly off. move the beginning part of the slider a smidge up more.

01:32:451 (6) - (i literally did this mod to point out this) make this slider 1/1 in length not 1/2, it will play much better into her voice. (i'd also suggest lowering SV for it as well)

lastly: 04:43:080 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - regardless of what you say about this fitting the beat, it doesn't, and plays incredibly poorly. i recommend starting with a low DS and gradually building up. an example of what i mean is here http://puu.sh/i6WRR/34626ba277.jpg keep in mind you can change the DS to be greater if you wish, however realize that as it stands right now the space really does nothing to add to the beat and just serves as artificial difficulty. (fight me) How can you say it plays bad?
Sorry dude, with all the respect, can you even pass this map?
Will change if others suggest it as well, but I think it fits fine.

Mitsuwa wrote:

03:59:537 - : Reduce the distance between notes ? I mean, put them cooler They're all just triangles and it plays well imo, will change if others complain about it as well.

UltraRik wrote:

Hello, from #sandwichreqs!

( Just a suggestion, tho) Great suggestion, thank you!

00:19:922 (9) - This doesn't work imo, make it land on 00:20:265 (1) - with CTRL+G or any other way
00:22:322 (5) - More towards the next slider Nope cuz circle movement OP
00:25:579 (7) - This jump is no. make it yes. (hint move up+right)
00:28:322 - Don't ignore the vocal here None of this section is mapped to the vocal
00:28:836 (2,3) - Both a bit lower I like how condesned it is right here, sorry ;-;
00:31:065 (7) - down a bit
00:35:522 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - If you're planing on rotating the jump sequence clockwise, do it with all the jumps instead of changing your mind halfway trough. Example of flow based jump rotation: I'm not exactly sure what you mean but the jumps here play fine to the wubs so no change
00:37:750 (4) - The pause in movement feels extremly unnatural here This entire section has been based off the instrumentals and many parts like this have pauses, changing it here would destroy the consistency
01:29:179 (4,5,6,1,2,3) - High pitched vocals call for clickjumps imo wh
01:32:093 (3) - No stack Why not? At least give me a reason :v
02:23:350 (8) - This is no. Pure slider break guaranteed. make it yes. I'm obsessed with antijumps lol, ctrl+G'd
02:39:293 (3,4,5,6,7) - Please pattern this jumps instead of simply going downwards
02:40:150 (1,2,3) - OP jump is OP. Make it no OP. Probably the laziest fix ever but k LOL
02:47:179 (2) - Thats too close to previous circle, movement feels underwhelming Moved circle and ctrl+g'd slider instead
02:52:665 (2) - need ctrl+G No cuz breaks the expanding horizontal pattern thing I got going on
02:53:865 (1) - EEEEEeeeehhhhhhhh... maybe just 2 or 3 squares down, since nothing calls for that big of a jump in music here
02:56:607 (1) - more to the middle of the screen I see your logic behind this, but I'm not a big fan of putting things near the center (kinda like what Priti does on Sakura Mirage)
03:05:693 (8) - put more left and rotate counterclockwise a little I like how this flows tho, will change if more people suggest
03:55:407 (6,1) - what? OH WHOOPSIE DAISY
04:01:750 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - eww. Keep it if you like, i just hate spaced streams So epic with the music, fits fine, I guess that's just you tho
05:07:407 (2) - Return is 2. Make it 1. Add circle I guess. I'm guessing you mean NC wise?

If I were to say that you will become a great mapper one day, that would be a lie.

YOU ALREADY ARE ONE. <3

KuranteMelodii wrote:

I am don't find anything here...

General

1. The clap is too loud, consider to reduce the volume, Especially 00:19:922 - 00:55:922 (2,5) and 04:02:436 to 04:24:379

Chaser

1. 00:55:922 (5,1,2) - It not really comfortable to play because the huge jump is so sudden Reduced jump size
2. 00:58:665 - The slider should goes to the short stream here
   
3. 01:00:036 (7,1) - The jumps is really uncomfortable because later on at 01:01:407 Is a long stream
4. 01:02:179 - Not really necessary (Depends on your style), but try to reduce stream spacing for better look appearance I think it's fine?
5. 01:06:122 - The spinner is too quick for me, put it on 01:06:207 or use slow sliders For now I'll keep it, will change if others suggest though.
6. 01:07:407 - Reduce volume to 45%
7. 01:07:407 (2) - Whistle is enough, Finish is pretty unnecessary here
8. 01:09:636 (4) - ^
9. 01:12:379 (4) - ^
10. 01:15:122 (4) - ^
11. 01:17:522 - Maybe x0.8? I think this speed is fine, its 0.9 in the section for the subtle change recommended by Faust
12. 01:17:522 (4) - Turn the note into slow slider (?) As much as I love 3/4 sliders, I rather not here
13. 01:20:265 - New combo here Will break consistency with the other NC's
14. 01:20:265 (4) (Or 01:17:522 (8) - if you don't want new combo) - Turn the note into slow slider Denied cuz reasons pointed out in the last two points
15. 01:24:550 (4) - ^ ^
16. 01:25:750 - New combo I'm pairing every two phrases int one combo in that section so the combo's arent just 3 objects
17. 01:25:750 (3) - Maybe remove return slider and add slow slider at 01:27:122 ? Those sliders would be pretty overwhelming in such a slow and calm part like this, that's why I decided to go with the pauses
    
    Don't follow me, i am not skystar XDD
18. 03:30:893 - Add break to reduce drain on HR That would be a pretty random break, but I'll change it if others suggest it as well. Plus, there's no possible way for people to fail from drain here since this part is so slow LOL
19. 03:36:379 - ^ ^
20. 03:59:693 - Again ,reduce long jumps, because the the long stream at 04:01:065 This time, the stream flows out of the jump nicely and fits since this part of the song builds up so much.

[ C R O W N S ] wrote:

Hello from #memehelp

There is only 1075 ms of audio lead-in :c Fixed

00:01:075 (1) - snap this slider Fixed
00:19:417 (6,7,8) - I feel like this breaks flow Placed to compliment the short and staccato phrases she's singing
00:23:875 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - How did you decide the spacing for these jumps? Every object it spaced evenly with the one next to it (placement wise, not time wise)
00:30:046 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ ^
00:35:532 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ ^
00:38:617 (6,7,8) - Flow breaking. Placed to compliment the short and staccato phrases she's singing
00:41:017 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - These seem more mindfully spaced but still awkward (could just be me, probably worth disregarding this one) Just a circular motion, will change if others agree.
01:01:417 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I like this stream, well curved.
02:40:675 (5) - This beat is EXACTLY the same as the previous one, yet here you use a kickslider instead of a triple. why do you guys torture me like this
03:24:046 (4) - I don't know what I feel. Happiness mixed with disbelief
03:51:989 (3,4,5,6) - This is such a gimmicky set of sliders.
04:11:189 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Dear god for me these hitsounds are overwhelming. (Could just be my skin. It's early, I'll test with default later.) Fixed
04:43:589 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - Gimmicky but seems to work Ye if you remove the notes you can hear each downbeat hit hard in the song

Probably terribad mod. but eh, you needed one more.

CelsiusLK wrote:

as requested

[general]

1. offset sound a little bit off to me , +2 offset would be nice imo

[chasing]

1. 00:19:419 (6,7,8) - , 00:38:617 (6,7,8) - I wonder why you use 1/8 here ? , I mean I would just use only circles here lol it enough here now imo omg you guys kill me, I'll ask the QAT and change this if it becomes a major issue.
2. 00:22:334 (5) - nc for sv change ? Fixed
3. 00:34:846 - why ignore this kick beat , I think it make rhythm sound better if you map it Fixed
4. 00:44:617 (9,10) - jumps here feel a bit too big or something and also this beat 00:44:789 (10) - doesn't even sound emphasized or anything using jumps here would mkae the flow feel weird imo , I would lower spacing here a lots , try move 00:44:789 (10) - to around x216 y148 ? Fixed
5. 00:50:617 (2) - sliderhead is kinda a bit inaudible to me here , better increase hitsound volume a bit so it Fixed
6. 00:55:246 (5,6) - I think swap place of these 2 notes would make the flow here 00:54:560 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - fit the song more Fixed
7. 01:20:617 (6) - nc? this sound like a new part or something NC'd the note before.
8. 01:26:103 (6) - same ^ ^
9. 01:36:903 (4) - same same ^ Fixed
10. 01:58:332 (4,5) - spacing so low here , why not make spacing here consistent with 01:56:446 (2,3) - or 01:56:960 (4,5) - Fixed
11. 01:58:846 (1) - the rhythm here sound a bit weird imo , using sliderend for emphasized beat is not that good here imo , you can try this rhythm
    SPOILER

    
    Remove the notes and listen to the percussion track in the background, this is mapped to that weird high pitched sliding hi-hat
12. 02:07:246 (1,2,3,4,5) - not a good way to use extended slider or something , here you can clearly hear a beat on 1/2 but you ignore and do 1/4 thing here well in player view it play good and fine but when it come to modder/mapper view it's not imo , I would change to use 1/2 slider here instead I'm going to focus more on the playability on this point. These sliders emphasize the falling of the voice for the buildup and makes the 1/2 sliders after it create an even bigger impact
13. 03:10:675 - hmm why skip this beat ? would make rhythm sound better if you map it Fixed
14. 03:41:017 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I assume you map to violin sound or something , well they sound off to me listen at 25% speed This is due to the scooping in sound that they use to create that strong accented sound. It's rhythmically correct, it's a technique used in whatever track the composer decided to use for those .
15. 03:51:989 (3,4,5,6) - o use circles only here would make flow better here , the current rhythm just play not really good and not flow really well too imo If FUNKY SUMMER BEACH can pull it off, I can
16. 03:55:589 (1,2,3) - try to make spacing consistent so flow would be a bit better here imo I tried x-x
17. 04:01:760 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - spacing here looks a bit too much , I think 1.7x or 1.8x ds stream should be enough here now if you want something like increasing effect (idk how to explain this effect rip ) It's not supposed to be an increasing effect. It's supposed to be a sudden burst of spacing since the percussion so abruptly changes there. It plays fine for everyone who's tested so far, will change if others suggest
18. 04:04:846 (7,8) - jumps here feel a bit weird , (8) doesn't sound really that emphasized imo so big jumps would not sound good here imo , try move 04:05:017 (8,1) - to around x192 y228 ? spacing here sohuld be lower 04:04:846 (7,8,1) - so it make sense with music more imo Fixed
19. 04:07:589 (6,7) - similiar to what I said above , spacing should be lower so it make sense with music more imo , you can try move 04:07:760 (7) - to around x232 y184 Fixed
20. 04:15:817 (7,8) - similiar to what I said above about spacing again Fixed
21. 04:43:589 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - are you sure about this pattern ? the 1/4 jumps there is not really fit the song here imo , mostly 1/4 jumps would fit for something sound really strong that can make the player play it intuitively but this one is not , I guess ,I would just do regular stream thing here instead Remove the notes and listen to the downbeats, they're strongly emphasized in the song, so that's why I placed those.

hmm I think notes placement can be polished a bit here

good luck , have fun mapping

Side wrote:

Hi!

Overall


HP Drain at 7 or 7.5 seems fine. Considering you're planning on using OD9 and there are a handful of sections without notes this makes it feel too punishing for small mistakes. This might be okay if this was OD 8 - 8.5 though. Fixed

Notes


00:21:134 (3) - Stacked double note feels more natural but this is not wrong of course. I don't agree, I feel like that stops the flow that the sliders are providing and it kills my antijump.

01:01:077 (6,7) - Move the clap from 7 to 6. OOPSIE

03:24:048 (4) - Something about this slider feels weird. It would look a lot smoother if you structure the loop nodes to more of a hexagon shape. Not the best example but looks a little more structured. Fixed

04:01:077 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - select 5-8 and move them down slightly and then move 6 and 7 a little lower so it does kind of like a mini u. Something like this. Fixed


Personal view(You can completely disregard this one if you want)

I feel the 1/8 sliders around the song (like 00:38:619 (6,7,8) - for example) feel really out of place. In some cases 1/4 sliders would have the same effect and still sound nice when played or even just notes would have the same spacing and not add an in-between sound that doesn't quite fit the melody, etc. I'm disscussing this with the QAT as we speak. To find my reasoning behind this, read my replies to previous mods.

Also when I playtested this it felt WAY easier than a 5.4 star map minus a few patterns that really seem to spike the difficulty. The SV and spacing in general make it feel like it should be more of an insane or baby extra (somewhere like 4.9-5.1 star range) :v

A map like this would be such a free PP grind considering the length, OD and HP. aw ye


Overall this map feels really nice the flow is very consistent and smooth and the patterns feel natural even during breaks (the ones before the kiai) verses, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if this gets ranked very soon honestly. Good job and best of luck thanks <3 I'll try to rank this ASAP

Nerodae wrote:

Sup buddy!
Here's a mod from my <3~


[Chasing]

00:05:877 (6,4) - These aren't blanketed perfectly. (http://prntscr.com/7f86mo = the 3 is an Extra note I placed for double checking) Fixed
00:19:934 (9) - I think this should have larger spacing, because its a very strong beat. Yet, it is a smaller jump in the previous 3 notes. Fixed
01:00:562 (3,4,5,6,7) - Maybe try something like this? http://prntscr.com/7f879h You get a momentum buildup for the streams. Fixed
01:17:534 (1) - The entire section has the same SV has the kiai time after, I think there is definitely an intensity change with the calm part, the buildup that starts kinda around 01:46:677 (4) . And parts thereafter. I think it plays well rn. The voices are powerful enough to keep that SV but I'll change if more people suggest.
01:20:619 (2,3) - (NAZI) http://prntscr.com/7f87ie Fixed
01:30:048 (1,2,3) - Maybe rotate this a bit so it gives it a different look? maybe like 5 Degrees? I want it to look identical since the lyrics/pitch is identical in the song.
01:46:677 (4) - NC? That'll break consistency
02:12:905 (1) - This is lower spacing than the beginning, maybe increase because kiai? Oh shit fixed
02:21:477 (3) - Maybe rotate a bit for cool aesthetic? :3 Fixed
04:10:848 (2,4) - I don't like how close these two are. Fixed
04:15:819 (7,8) - Ctrl+G? Flows better but those jumps are huge. I'll keep them for now but as soon as two people or more complain, they're going away.
04:43:591 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - these jumps streams are kinda evil imo, because there aren't any prior to this pattern, but that's just my opinon ;w; They fit fine, remove the notes and listen ;w;.
04:44:962 (5) - NC? Fixed

I really love this song, I like how you mapped it.
please collab with me Soon <3

Smoothie World wrote:

[Chasing]
00:01:934 (3,4) - Flow feels very sharp here compared to the rest of the opening. Consider moving the 4-combo slider right and then move 00:03:134 (5,6) accordingly I think this kind of flow plays fine since there's a pause before it. Plus, I don't want to ruin the spacing that I have (notice how the slider end on 4 is with the slider end on 3.)

00:26:791 (4,5,6,7,8) - I feel like this part has much more potential and feels rather empty Fixed

00:42:562 (2,3) - Yeah kind of sharp flow here as well similar to the beginning. Consider moving similar to: http://i.imgur.com/8I4qGnb.png I like that sharp feeling this provides. Plus, changing it would ruin my spacing ;w;

01:46:677 (4,7) - Awkward stack Fixed

02:00:562 (2) - Ctrl + G ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

02:55:591 (2,3) - ^ You guys just can't decide now can you >>

02:56:619 (1) - Try: http://i.imgur.com/xRia222.jpg Pls, that jump is like 2 miles long.

03:07:934 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - This pattern feels really congested. 03:08:619 (5,1) does, at least. Try to create more of a jump between those two. Fixed

03:34:162 (4,5) - Blanket these Fixed

05:07:419 - http://i.imgur.com/NIXVagx.jpg Probably the best idea I've ever recieved.

05:08:534 (1) - I'd actually advise not having a spinner here, but it's up to you. I love how it brings the map to an end and I need the drain time.

OK WE CAN QUALIFY THIS NOW PLEASE BNS COME OUT