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Mok

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Mok 2010-04-27T11:40:13+00:00

Updated Mod's Info:
Mine are all suggestions. You're free to follow or not this mod :3
If I found a beat who must be added, i'll write it.
Remember to check spacing after all modfies :3

[General]
MP3 is too weak, make it louder.
Tags: I don't think Edward Alphonse Elric FMA could be useful like tags, delete them D:
There's two red! Change the second red or cutomize colours D:

[Easy]
01:09:960 - Delete this break time and add a slider.

[Crimmi's Normal]
00:38:760 (3,4,5) - Flip horizontally.
01:27:480 (5) - Symmetrize it.

[Hard]
00:25:320 (2,3,4,5) - They're awful! try to change them with a 1/4 slider D:

[Insane]
Ok.

[KIA's Insane]
Ok.

Kiddo-Kun

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Kiddo-Kun 2010-04-27T20:58:42+00:00

tmokb93 wrote:
[General]
MP3 is too weak, make it louder.

How exactly do I do that?

YGOkid8

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YGOkid8 2010-04-28T08:12:01+00:00

Death_the_kid wrote:
How exactly do I do that?

edit it with a program, or ask someone else (that can) to do it.

Kiddo-Kun

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Kiddo-Kun 2010-04-28T20:15:19+00:00

Can you?

YGOkid8

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YGOkid8 2010-04-29T07:11:04+00:00

can't, I'm capped D:

2 people I know who can do these stuff are:
Ephemeral, and Matma Rex.
try asking them

EDIT: If you can get Ephemeral to, tell him to deny kudosu! for the post you gave me kudosu! for. There was nothing constructive in it that improved this map

EDIT: Don't kudosu! this as well

Kiddo-Kun

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Kiddo-Kun 2010-04-29T19:05:39+00:00

Thanks
Btw I really didn't mean to give you kudosu!

Matma Rex

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Matma Rex 2010-05-01T10:26:23+00:00

Louder mp3: http://www.speedyshare.com/files/22212755/Opening_3.mp3

Make sure the offset didn't change, modyfying mp3s sometimes causes that.

By the way, Easy has a lot of ugly sliders (not perfectly horizontal/vertical, for example 00:44:040 (1). Fix them all please D:). I didn't look at other diffs.

Kiddo-Kun

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Kiddo-Kun 2010-05-01T16:27:50+00:00

Thanks a millions
The new mp3 is a beauty

Nakagawa-Kanon

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Nakagawa-Kanon 2010-05-02T08:47:35+00:00

[Easy]
00:19:080 (6) - spacing check

umm.... It seems to Normal......

[Normal]
01:14:280 (4) - add new combo

[Hard]
01:02:040 (1) - remove new combo

[Insane]
01:26:880 (5,6) - it's too insane!!

[KIA's Insane]
01:06:360 (1) - remove new combo
01:07:320 (3) - add new combo

good map!
+star~

fartownik

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fartownik 2010-05-02T17:46:28+00:00

Random mod.

The mp3 ends so suddenly. Can't you edit it by adding the fade effect or find better mp3?

[Easy]

00:16:680 (1,2) - Inconsistent spacing. Please space it it with 0,7x Distance Spacing value.
00:52:200 (2) - Sounds far better placed the repeat at [00:53:160] and the end of the slider at [00:54:120].

[Crimmi]

[00:34:440] - [00:39:720] - Strange spacing change. I prefer spacing it with 0,9x Distance Spacing, like previous notes (or space previous notes with 1,1x spacing). The same thing here: [01:25:800].

[Hard]

01:27:480 (3) - The end of this slider sounds weird (considering the sudden, not faded end of the mp3 too). Please expand it to the next white tick (01:28:680).

[Insane]

The same issue as in Hard's.

[KIA]

It's okay.

+star

AdRon Zh3Ro

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AdRon Zh3Ro 2010-05-02T18:22:08+00:00

Here the right post

Moded and nothing found.

Beuchi

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Beuchi 2010-05-03T20:39:48+00:00

Hi hi!!

Here are some suggestions for your map, you don't have to change them if you don't agree with me

Let's go!!

~All Diffs~
- The mp3 you have ends really suddenly, and it sounds ugly, could you fade it?
- Delete the .osb file and do a Full Submit next time you update the map.
- I recommend to add "fma" to tags, I think people would rather write "fma" than "full metal alchemist" xP

~Easy~
- Decrease Overall Difficulty, please.
- The slider speed is IMO a bit faster...

00:28:680 (4) - Fix Spacing.
00:50:280 (2) - ^
01:14:280 (4) - ^
01:17:160 (2) - ^
01:18:120 (1) - ^

~Crimmi's Normal~
- Well... Having those long chains of sliders and circles this diff looks more like a Hard (actually this appears as H on web)... :/ Maybe making those chains shorter and having some more blank spaces will help =x

00:37:080 (8) - Fix Spacing.
01:15:000 (4,5) - Looks ugly, maybe do something like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8723
01:25:800 (1,2,3,4,5) - Fix spacing.

~Hard~
01:10:680 (3) - Fix spacing.

~Insane~
00:15:720 (4,5) - Fix Spacing.
00:36:600 (4,5,6,7) - ^
00:51:000 (5,6) - ^
01:26:880 (5,6) - ^

~KIA's Insane~
No problems, good job! :3

Fun map, just some spacing inconsistences on some places but that's all. Good luck! :3 *star*

Sallad4ever

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Sallad4ever 2010-05-03T20:41:48+00:00

Well I've mod this long ago, and when I check again I don't any major issue, so it's better for you to find BAT to take a look at this

Kiddo-Kun

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Kiddo-Kun 2010-05-03T21:07:02+00:00

It's pretty hard

Ekaru

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Ekaru 2010-05-03T22:35:32+00:00

Had a little of IRC modding. Basically I had one of the combo colors changed to something that didn't blend in with the BG.

Good job, star!

TheVileOne

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TheVileOne 2010-05-05T20:09:14+00:00

Hey! I checked your maps. Not a lot to say.

Real minor issue but 01:22:560 (2,3) - could be moved one unit down in Insane.

Star

minyeob

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minyeob 2010-05-06T07:29:23+00:00

1. Add spinner approaching circle
2. I suggest deleting osb. file

Map looks fine, I guess
You can reconnect me ^^

ouranhshc

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ouranhshc 2010-05-08T00:16:45+00:00

i didn't find anything

Kiddo-Kun

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Kiddo-Kun 2010-05-08T03:18:08+00:00

X_x BATs are so hard to find.

minyeob

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minyeob 2010-05-08T18:18:19+00:00

Your fixed map is fine but

I forgot to redownload.......

Umm Did you do full submit?
There's still osb file, and there's no spinner approach circle, either.
Would you remind re full submitting?

And==================================
Well really sorry for saying this but accroding to rule,
More than 2 Insane(I)s can't be ranked.
But I won't force you to remove one.

Do you think is Hard HARD but not INSANE?

YGOkid8

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YGOkid8 2010-05-09T05:56:58+00:00

minyeob wrote:
Well really sorry for saying this but accroding to rule,
More than 2 Insane(I)s can't be ranked.

I wouldn't say that's true, it's if there aren't enough [I]> diffs to balance it out...

eg. [E][N][I][I] would be rankable, but not [E][H][I][I]

...just keep that in mind

Kiddo-Kun

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Kiddo-Kun 2010-05-09T17:22:57+00:00

Cool, so I make my normal easier, then I'm good
Edit: x_X harder than I thought, I'm gonna need some AID

Kiddo-Kun

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Kiddo-Kun 2010-05-12T00:49:12+00:00

I was told by others that [E] [H] [I] [I] [I]
is quite alright

YGOkid8

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YGOkid8 2010-05-12T11:02:38+00:00

Death_the_kid wrote:
I was told by others that [E] [H] [I] [I] [I]
is quite alright

really? I'm a bit skeptical about it

MaxwellDemon

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MaxwellDemon 2010-05-14T01:37:20+00:00

[Easy]

What a strange hitsound placement... but it is okay considering Easy's beat placement. XD

00:47:880 (1) - I can kinda see what you are doing with Easy (easiest way of mapping easy is to map beat by beat...)... but this slider simply doesn't fit. I think it has to be mapped to the singing... so, move this slider 1/2 forward, repeat one less and then map an additional beat 00:49:320
01:06:120 (3) - Funny slider XD

[Normal]

Technically, nothing wrong... but I find the beat placement a little repetitive (especially for the verse), which, I supposed, is an expected thing considering the nature of the song. Or maybe it is just because I know I wouldn't have mapped the song like that. XD XD

[Hard]

... I think I still find the hitsounds designed haphazardly. Like, why are there so many strange whistles?

This song is suitable for whistles, but I think that is too many whistles in one go. XD

00:04:920 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - Considering how many beats you have later on in the song, I really won't used that many beats just for the opening sequence. It sets up for repetitiveness to the player (e.g what, this again?).
01:27:480 (3) - Don't really agree with the slowdown slider either. :/

[Insane]

For the intro of the song, same thing as hard. You are using the same mapping techniques for two very different part of the songs.
Same problems with hitsounds, too many whistles in strange places, I think. XD XD
Also, still don't find myself agreeing with the final slowdown slider.

[KIA's Insane]

Well... hahaha, yeah, I don't actually find any problems here in particular, I think. XD XD

Strange spinner circle... can't you find something that covers the entire circle?

ztrot's Link has a completely mapped spinner circle (a good one, unlike the one from my skin, hahaha), so maybe you can ask for his permission to use it? In addition to that, why don't you skin the slider ball as well? You already got a slider follow circle for it.

Anyway, as your first map, it's good. But you can definitely do a lot of improvement. Right now, your mapping style seems to be consisting of mapping every single possible beat in the song (1/2 beats in hard, full beats in easy). Throw some variation in the mix. There is a lot of things going on in this song, but you don't necessarily have to map every single thing. If you want to figure out something "nice" from this song, KIA's difficulty is a nice way to learn a few things from (hitsound patterns, variations, streams, non-linear design, etc.). Don't feel discouraged though! If you have any questions regarding my mod, you are always free to ask me any questions online and I'd be happy to try to explain and help you through my critique. XD

Oh yeah, in regards to the difficulty spread... I personally don't really mind since there IS a normal... but that normal could definitely be toned down if possible.

As an encouragement, here is a BAT star.

anonymous_old

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anonymous_old 2010-05-15T19:48:55+00:00

General
MP3 just cuts off. Try getting a better MP3.

Skin
???

Seems unnecessary.

Easy
Best diff next to KIA's.
Increase circle size.
Make this less square, please.

01:25:080 (1,2,3,4,5) - Feels poorly timed.

Crimmi's Normal
Feels like a Hard dummied with some sliders. I don't like it.

Hard
Okay, I guess.

KIA's Insane
Looks good.

KIA

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KIA 2010-05-16T21:40:15+00:00

= = update

Download: Sukima Switch - Golden Time Lover (TV Size) (Death_the_kid) [KIA's Insane].osu

MaxwellDemon

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MaxwellDemon 2010-05-17T23:16:02+00:00

strager wrote:
General
MP3 just cuts off. Try getting a better MP3.

That is what I thought too, but apparently the song ends like that in the HD TV intro?

By the way, I just realized something... ztrot got a few of his skin elements from here.

I am such a credit whore. XD

Anyway...

[Easy]

Sounds great now.

[Crimmi's Normal]

Well... yeah... you know what I said already. XD XD

[Hard]

Good now.

[KIA's Insane]

Never had a problem with this difficulty.

Bubb.

YGOkid8

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YGOkid8 2010-05-18T11:10:49+00:00

hoi, don't kudosu! people for updating difficulties (or submitting a guest diff for that matter)

next BAT to deny kds

Crimmi

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Crimmi 2010-05-18T14:36:40+00:00

strager wrote:
General
MP3 just cuts off. Try getting a better MP3.

Skin
???

Seems unnecessary.

Easy
Best diff next to KIA's.
Increase circle size.
Make this less square, please.

01:25:080 (1,2,3,4,5) - Feels poorly timed.

Crimmi's Normal
Feels like a Hard dummied with some sliders. I don't like it. I Feel Offended.

Hard
Okay, I guess.

KIA's Insane
Looks good.

Kiddo-Kun

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Kiddo-Kun 2010-05-18T19:24:10+00:00

MaxwellDemon wrote:
I am such a credit whore. XD

YGOkid8 wrote:
hoi, don't kudosu! people for updating difficulties (or submitting a guest diff for that matter)

I'm a Kudosu! hore xD

KIA

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KIA 2010-05-18T20:28:38+00:00

Oh, god... y u updated map and popped bubble? :<<<

Kiddo-Kun

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Kiddo-Kun 2010-05-18T21:17:37+00:00

x_X it dose that?
I was just changing skin

Sakura

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Sakura 2010-05-18T22:19:18+00:00

Any update to the map regardless of what you did pops the bubble

Kiddo-Kun

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Kiddo-Kun 2010-05-18T22:34:14+00:00

Damn!

MaxwellDemon

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MaxwellDemon 2010-05-20T00:47:17+00:00

[General]

Skin issues... remove the cursor, though the main issue is you forgot to include the skin.ini, so the pointer is spinner around unnaturally, hahahahaha.
I know I made the skin, but the cursor plays lousy and that's something I had intended to fix... so, just use your previous cursor (easier playability) or just simply remove it.

You also got some skin elements you don't need such as:
- star.png
- playfield.png
- section-fail.png
- section-pass.png
- followpint-1.png (followpoint 1 to 5 actually, remove all these except for followpoint)

It is also highly recommended you remove these components of the skin as the other parts of the skin element have not been skinned:
- go.png
- ready.png

While I am at it, I found some other nitpicky stuff... XD

[Easy]

00:29:160 (5) - Needs to start 1/4 earlier. XD

Other than that, still finding no problem with the maps. Fix the skin elements then I will return with the bubble (again?????). XD XD

EDIT: I added the current cursor I am currently using in the most latest update for my skin (not uploaded yet)... I am pretty sure this came from ztrot though, so, the credit still goes to him for it.

Kiddo-Kun

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Kiddo-Kun 2010-05-20T23:16:18+00:00

MaxwellDemon wrote:
[General]

Skin issues... remove the cursor, though the main issue is you forgot to include the skin.ini, so the pointer is spinner around unnaturally, hahahahaha.
I know I made the skin, but the cursor plays lousy and that's something I had intended to fix... so, just use your previous cursor (easier playability) or just simply remove it.

You also got some skin elements you don't need such as:
- star.png
- playfield.png
- section-fail.png
- section-pass.png
- followpint-1.png (followpoint 1 to 5 actually, remove all these except for followpoint)

It is also highly recommended you remove these components of the skin as the other parts of the skin element have not been skinned:
- go.png
- ready.png

While I am at it, I found some other nitpicky stuff... XD

[Easy]

00:29:160 (5) - Needs to start 1/4 earlier. XD

Other than that, still finding no problem with the maps. Fix the skin elements then I will return with the bubble (again?????). XD XD

EDIT: I added the current cursor I am currently using in the most latest update for my skin (not uploaded yet)... I am pretty sure this came from ztrot though, so, the credit still goes to him for it.

Fixed

KIA

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KIA 2010-05-21T09:31:13+00:00

skin looks good

MaxwellDemon

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MaxwellDemon 2010-05-24T21:16:09+00:00

Alright then, in this case... finally, re-bubbled. XD XD

Kiddo-Kun

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Kiddo-Kun 2010-05-25T19:29:11+00:00

XD finally
Thanks~

Gens

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Gens 2010-05-25T20:32:57+00:00

Log~

SPOILER

15:07 <Gens> : Hey
15:07 *Gens is editing (Sukima Switch - Golden Time Lover (TV Size))[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12082]
15:07 <Death_the_kid> : yah?
15:07 <Gens> : I have a few problems with the skin...
15:08 <Death_the_kid> : I C
15:08 <Death_the_kid> : what are they?
15:09 <Gens> : First of all, there are some unnecessary files in the folder
15:10 <Gens> : I don't believe having two hit0.png makes a difference?
15:11 <Gens> : The skin.ini has also no effect over it
15:11 <Death_the_kid> : oh
15:11 <Gens> : "menu-button-background.png" is also useless
15:13 <Gens> : okay... that's all for unnecessary files
15:13 <Gens> : Next, some skin elements have to be resized or cut
15:13 <Gens> : The comboburst's width cannot be +500px
15:15 <Gens> : Also "spinner-clear.png" must be a 1x1 image
15:15 <Gens> : ...am I going too fast for you?

15:15 <Death_the_kid> : no keep going lol
15:15 <Gens> : alright
15:15 <Gens> : Next, some skin elements are missing
15:16 <Gens> : hmm, well, no not really
15:16 <Gens> : just the cursortrail, as far as I can see it
15:16 <Death_the_kid> : alright
15:18 <Gens> : And last, the "default-x" images' glow is horribly cut (no offense)
15:18 <Gens> : Being obvious if you look at default-percent.png
15:18 <Death_the_kid> : I'll fix these ASAP but for now I g2g
15:19 <Death_the_kid> : Thanks~
15:19 <Gens> : alright, I'll keep a log just in case
15:19 <Gens> : no problem
15:19 <Death_the_kid> : alright

[General]

Could you make the lead-in the same on all difficulties?

[Easy]

00:29:040 (5) - It isn't a good idea to change to 1/4 like this on an Easy difficulty.

[KIA's Insane]

I wish the jumps were consistent and actually made sense... it makes me rage...

So pop until you fix this.

Kiddo-Kun

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Kiddo-Kun 2010-05-26T20:21:40+00:00

Gens wrote:
Log~

SPOILER
15:07 <Gens> : Hey
15:07 *Gens is editing (Sukima Switch - Golden Time Lover (TV Size))[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12082]
15:07 <Death_the_kid> : yah?
15:07 <Gens> : I have a few problems with the skin...
15:08 <Death_the_kid> : I C
15:08 <Death_the_kid> : what are they?
15:09 <Gens> : First of all, there are some unnecessary files in the folder
15:10 <Gens> : I don't believe having two hit0.png makes a difference?
15:11 <Gens> : The skin.ini has also no effect over it
15:11 <Death_the_kid> : oh
15:11 <Gens> : "menu-button-background.png" is also useless
15:13 <Gens> : okay... that's all for unnecessary files
15:13 <Gens> : Next, some skin elements have to be resized or cut
15:13 <Gens> : The comboburst's width cannot be +500px
15:15 <Gens> : Also "spinner-clear.png" must be a 1x1 image
15:15 <Gens> : ...am I going too fast for you?
15:15 <Death_the_kid> : no keep going lol
15:15 <Gens> : alright
15:15 <Gens> : Next, some skin elements are missing
15:16 <Gens> : hmm, well, no not really
15:16 <Gens> : just the cursortrail, as far as I can see it
15:16 <Death_the_kid> : alright
15:18 <Gens> : And last, the "default-x" images' glow is horribly cut (no offense)
15:18 <Gens> : Being obvious if you look at default-percent.png
15:18 <Death_the_kid> : I'll fix these ASAP but for now I g2g
15:19 <Death_the_kid> : Thanks~
15:19 <Gens> : alright, I'll keep a log just in case
15:19 <Gens> : no problem
15:19 <Death_the_kid> : alright

[General]
Could you make the lead-in the same on all difficulties?
[Easy]

00:29:040 (5) - It isn't a good idea to change to 1/4 like this on an Easy difficulty.

[KIA's Insane]
I wish the jumps were consistent and actually made sense... it makes me rage...
So pop until you fix this.

Fixed~

Last edited by Kiddo-Kun 2010-05-27T22:11:55+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

mtmcl

mtmcl 2010-05-26T21:02:14+00:00

Bubble repair!

Kiddo-Kun

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Kiddo-Kun 2010-05-27T00:24:38+00:00

Awesome, now hopefully it stays that way xD

Gens

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Gens 2010-05-27T22:42:45+00:00

I told you to remove the skin.ini... =/

Kiddo-Kun

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Kiddo-Kun 2010-05-29T00:37:21+00:00

Gens wrote:
I told you to remove the skin.ini... =/

Fixed~

Gens

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Gens 2010-05-29T00:46:40+00:00

Hmm, just noticed that I had to update Hard even when deleting and redownloading... something went wrong with submitting maybe? Better safe than sorry...

Kiddo-Kun

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Kiddo-Kun 2010-05-29T00:49:41+00:00

?????
Is something wrong?

Gens

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Gens 2010-05-29T01:11:37+00:00

Try another full submission maybe?

(forgot to say that on the other post, I rushed it up p:)