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Flobots - Handlebars

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Topic Starter
-Xero-
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Donnerstag, 28. Oktober 2010 at 18:14:30

Artist: Flobots
Title: Handlebars
Tags: Fight with Tools Indie
BPM: 142
Filesize: 6855kb
Play Time: 03:06
Difficulties Available:
  1. Handlebars (2,21 stars, 163 notes)
  2. Holocaust (4,96 stars, 471 notes)
  3. Microphone (4,28 stars, 303 notes)
Download: Flobots - Handlebars
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Credits:
Handlebars: -Xero-
Microphone: -Xero-
Holocaust: -Xero-
Hitsound Help: NatsumeRin/ Real1/Roddie
Background: RandomJibberish
Timing Help: Mashley
Special Thanks: strager/Alace


Modding:
strager
NatsumeRin
no-7
RandomJibberish
Leorda
NotShinta
DJPop
Kecco
kino77
osuplayer111
MarioBros777 8-)
deadbeat
Roddie
NoHItter
Sakura Hana
wmfchris
Soaprman
CDFA
Xgor
darck360
yeahyeahyeahhh
Mashley
Armin
starred
maay
let me star this, my dear friend
NatsumeRin
Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

[General]
500*500... find a better BG like 800*600 or so... i guess.
why not use grid level 3 to map? i can see there's lots of spacing are not equal because of grid level 1...(for example: [Handlebar], 00:46:003 (1,2,1), or [Microphone] 00:39:243 (1,2,3)... i won't point out spacing problems because i think you have to respace the notes T T.

[Handlebar]
00:28:257 (1) - remove new combo?
00:31:426 (1) - start 1/2 earlier?
01:00:792 - add a beat?
01:34:172 (1) - damn this is a [Easy]!!!
for hitsounds, i made one for you ... hope you like it = =
Download: Flobots - Handlebars (Xero_HT) [Handlebars hitsounds].osu

[Microphone]
00:26:989 (3) - finish? (normal sample set)
00:55:722 (1) - remove new combo?
01:34:172 (4) - god no.

[Holocaust]
Overall -1.
00:26:567 (4) - don't let timing panel that change the volume exactly on the notes, move it 1/4 earlier. and the volume turn too loud imo.
00:54:454 (1) - remove finish?
01:21:708 (2) - make it curve?
01:24:137 (5,6) - remove whistle?
02:25:722 (1,2) - too crazy.
02:42:200 - you forgot the kiai = =
02:55:299 - ^
03:05:862 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - i don't think human can do this...
Topic Starter
-Xero-

NatsumeRin wrote:

Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

XERO:
Fixed
Asking for another opinion/I think about it
No!

[General]
500*500... find a better BG like 800*600 or so... i guess. X, but i need some time to find one.
why not use grid level 3 to map? i can see there's lots of spacing are not equal because of grid level 1...(for example: [Handlebar], 00:46:003 (1,2,1), or [Microphone] 00:39:243 (1,2,3)... i won't point out spacing problems because i think you have to respace the notes T T. Those issues are really small. But let's hear some other opinions.

[Handlebar]
00:28:257 (1) - remove new combo? X
00:31:426 (1) - start 1/2 earlier? X, i hate boring 1/2 spamming
01:00:792 - add a beat? X
01:34:172 (1) - damn this is a [Easy]!!! X (look @ Microphone)
for hitsounds, i made one for you ... hope you like it = =
[attachment=0:0ace8]Flobots - Handlebars (Xero_HT) [Handlebars hitsounds].osu[/attachment:0ace8] Thanks! Changed some, but overall it was really helpful.

[Microphone]
00:26:989 (3) - finish? (normal sample set) X
00:55:722 (1) - remove new combo? X
01:34:172 (4) - god no. X, geez you just hold your mouse there.. no big deal.

[Holocaust]
Overall -1. X
00:26:567 (4) - don't let timing panel that change the volume exactly on the notes, move it 1/4 earlier. and the volume turn too loud imo. X
00:54:454 (1) - remove finish? X
01:21:708 (2) - make it curve? X
01:24:137 (5,6) - remove whistle? X
02:25:722 (1,2) - too crazy. X
02:42:200 - you forgot the kiai = = X (I wanted to place a new fountain.)
02:55:299 - ^ X, ^
03:05:862 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - i don't think human can do this... X, mwahaha
Asutarotto
Hello~ ;)

Pink words:You should fix this
Black words:Just suggestions
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[General]
Try to use grid level 2 or 3?1 may cause some spacing mistakes in some cases

[Handlebars]
01:34:172 (1) - this 1/8 repeated slider may make some new players confused



[Microphone]
Delete SB since there's no need to use it in this diff


Nice map.
+Star :)
Topic Starter
-Xero-

no-7 wrote:

Hello~ ;)

Pink words:You should fix this
Black words:Just suggestions
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XERO:
Fixed
Asking for another opinion/I think about it
No!
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[General]
Try to use grid level 2 or 3?1 may cause some spacing mistakes in some cases X, i checked it. Just looks weird and really doesn't matter (Using Grid Level 3 only fixes by 1 tick)

[Handlebars]
01:34:172 (1) - this 1/8 repeated slider may make some new players confused Ok, 2 guys saying it now.



[Microphone]
Delete SB since there's no need to use it in this diff X


Nice map.
+Star :) Ty!
anonymous_old
Good job.

For a CTB player.

IRC modding.
Darkhishi
a star for my german friend peace and make other good maps
aRiskOfRain
All fine.
RandomJibberish
General
Here's a Bg you can use if you want:

Handlebars:
MAP TO THE END PLEASE
01:34:172 (1) - This is random and confusing, make a long slider that isn't half speed
01:39:665 - Add a beat?

Microphone:
MAP TO THE END PLEASE. ESPECIALLY THIS DIFF BUT ON THE OTHER DIFF TOO.
01:34:172 (4) - This doesn't really fit, but if you want to keep it get rid of the next note and extend it to 01:35:017.

Holocaust:
The speed changes are really stupid and random I'd get rid of it and remap the whole section but w/e
02:36:708 (5) - remove a repeat then add beats on 02:37:024 and 02:37:236.
02:37:553 (1,2) - Make 1 a tick shoter and move 2 back by a tick
02:50:017 (4) - Maybe replace with 3 beats?

Good map apart from lazy half mapped diffs and retarded speed changes.
Topic Starter
-Xero-

RandomJibberish wrote:

XERO:
Fixed
Asking for another opinion/I think about it
No!

General
Here's a Bg you can use if you want: X, Thanksss!
SPOILER
[attachment=0:02d43]handlebarsbg.png[/attachment:02d43]

Handlebars:
MAP TO THE END PLEASE X, it's an easy.
01:34:172 (1) - This is random and confusing, make a long slider that isn't half speed X
01:39:665 - Add a beat? X

Microphone:
MAP TO THE END PLEASE. ESPECIALLY THIS DIFF BUT ON THE OTHER DIFF TOO. Jesus Christ..
01:34:172 (4) - This doesn't really fit, but if you want to keep it get rid of the next note and extend it to 01:35:017. X

Holocaust:
The speed changes are really stupid and random I'd get rid of it and remap the whole section but w/e I like them.
02:36:708 (5) - remove a repeat then add beats on 02:37:024 and 02:37:236. X
02:37:553 (1,2) - Make 1 a tick shoter and move 2 back by a tick X
02:50:017 (4) - Maybe replace with 3 beats? X

Good map apart from lazy half mapped diffs and retarded speed changes. I didn't map half of the song due to my laziness...

I will upload changes later.
Leorda
Guten Morgen

[Storyboard]
33.png have an uneeded space, you have to cut it down

[Handlebars]
00:28:257 (1,1) - Remove new combo?
01:23:609 (x) - Add note?
01:34:172 (1) - Remove new combo?
01:37:553 (x) - Add note?
01:39:243 (x) - ^

[Microphone]
01:47:271 (4) - Mix it up with whistle and finish at the end, is not good, remove one

[Holocaust]
01:48:961 (B) - The breaks are too long, OMG

Good song
STAR
Topic Starter
-Xero-

Leorda wrote:

Guten Morgen

XERO:
Fixed
Asking for another opinion/I think about it
No!



[Storyboard]
33.png have an uneeded space, you have to cut it down X, it's not like i didn't mean to do it like this...

[Handlebars]
00:28:257 (1,1) - Remove new combo? X
01:23:609 (x) - Add note? X
01:34:172 (1) - Remove new combo? X, done already
01:37:553 (x) - Add note? X
01:39:243 (x) - ^ X

[Microphone]
01:47:271 (4) - Mix it up with whistle and finish at the end, is not good, remove one X

[Holocaust]
01:48:961 (B) - The breaks are too long, OMG No, ZOMFG! Its the only one!!

Good song
STAR
Real1
I can ride my bike with no handlebars!!

[General]
[Microphone wants to have Kiai in the end too like Holocaust does.

[Handlebars]
00:38:398 (2) - Sounds better ending at 00:38:820 (White tick)
01:30:370 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - This is supposed to be Easy, no? Noobs may get confused here..
01:34:172 (2) - This would feel better if it was further away from (1)

[Microphone]
01:35:862 - If you listen to the sound effect of the music in this spot (and every 4th white tick following) it sounds different. If you put a clap on each one of those, it will sound so awesome, trust me. :) The notes I'm talking about would be the following:
01:35:440 (3) - Slider end point.
01:36:708 (3) - Slider end point.
01:38:398 (3) - Slider end point.
01:40:088 (3) - Last slider end point.
01:42:623 (3) - This note
01:43:468 (6) - Slider end point

:D

[Holocaust]
The speed changes are kinda too sudden IMO... But that's just me.
03:05:862 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Ouch. xD



Starred.
Topic Starter
-Xero-

Real1 wrote:

I can ride my bike with no handlebars!!

XERO:
Fixed
Asking for another opinion/I think about it
No!



[General]
[Microphone wants to have Kiai in the end too like Holocaust does. Ooops!

[Handlebars]
00:38:398 (2) - Sounds better ending at 00:38:820 (White tick) X
01:30:370 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - This is supposed to be Easy, no? Noobs may get confused here.. X
01:34:172 (2) - This would feel better if it was further away from (1) X

[Microphone] X, sounds cool!
01:35:862 - If you listen to the sound effect of the music in this spot (and every 4th white tick following) it sounds different. If you put a clap on each one of those, it will sound so awesome, trust me. :) The notes I'm talking about would be the following:
01:35:440 (3) - Slider end point.
01:36:708 (3) - Slider end point.
01:38:398 (3) - Slider end point.
01:40:088 (3) - Last slider end point.
01:42:623 (3) - This note
01:43:468 (6) - Slider end point

:D

[Holocaust] X
The speed changes are kinda too sudden IMO... But that's just me.
03:05:862 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Ouch. xD



Starred.
Linkmaster
Good job! Keep it up!

+Star
YGOkid8
Increase Hitsound Volume. I literally can't hear any of the beats.
Topic Starter
-Xero-

YGOkid8 wrote:

Increase Hitsound Volume. I literally can't hear any of the beats.
No.
NotShinta
I didn't get the BG or Vid. I tried DLing twice, so I don't think it was that download. Try full uploading.

Handlebars
Map to the end. Yes, I know you will refuse this, but the rest is good and it's just lazy.

Microphone
Uh, maybe use a smaller grid size?
01:47:693 (5) - This isn't parallel to 01:46:848 (3). Wow I mod minor stuff.
02:17:271 (1) - This looks ugly. Try deleting the last tick thing.
02:37:764 (2,3) - Spacing.
02:43:046 (3) - Spacing.
02:50:229 (3) - ^
02:52:764 (3) - ^

Holocaust
00:30:792 (1) - Looks ugly.
Wow crazily awesome.

Yeah all suggestions, except the spacing ones. Starred.
Topic Starter
-Xero-

IAmNotShinta wrote:

XERO:
Fixed
Asking for another opinion/I think about it
No!



I didn't get the BG or Vid. I tried DLing twice, so I don't think it was that download. Try full uploading. X

Handlebars
Map to the end. Yes, I know you will refuse this, but the rest is good and it's just lazy. X, now shut up..

Microphone
Uh, maybe use a smaller grid size? X
01:47:693 (5) - This isn't parallel to 01:46:848 (3). Wow I mod minor stuff. Yes, you do.
02:17:271 (1) - This looks ugly. Try deleting the last tick thing. X
02:37:764 (2,3) - Spacing. X
02:43:046 (3) - Spacing. X
02:50:229 (3) - ^ X
02:52:764 (3) - ^ X

Holocaust
00:30:792 (1) - Looks ugly. X
Wow crazily awesome.

Yeah all suggestions, except the spacing ones. Starred.
DJPop
~Handlebars~
00:28:257 (1) - remove new combo
01:41:355 (1) - ^
01:41:778 (2) - new combo

~Microphone~
00:39:877 (2) - move right 1 grid (Lv3)
01:32:060 (3) - move down 1 grid (Lv2) OR 01:31:637 (1,2) - move up 2 grrids (Lv2)
01:46:848 (3,4) - match the vocal ??
02:16:426 (1) - remove new combo
02:18:539 (2) - should be removed
02:21:919 (2) - ^
02:40:299 (4) - move down 1 grid (Lv3)
03:04:595 (3) - new combo

~Holocaust~
Fine...


+Star
Candos
I like this map =D
Kecco
•Overall•
Timing : Offset 366 ~ Resnap All Notes
What the file 33.png is used for? If it's useful remove it and Full Submitt.

•Holocaust•
01:30:997 (7) - New combo?
01:32:476 (7) - ^
Break it's very long IMO.
02:35:223 (9) - Prolong this slider to the red tick?
03:07:335 (8) - New combo?

•Microphone•
02:22:975 (2) - Ugly position for this circle, but it's good.
02:24:665 (2) - ^

•Handlebars•
00:28:257 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:32:482 (1) - ^
02:16:848 (1,1) - Remove new combo.

Star~
Topic Starter
-Xero-

Kecco wrote:

•Overall•
Timing : Offset 366 ~ Resnap All Notes X
What the file 33.png is used for? If it's useful remove it and Full Submitt. No comment.

•Holocaust• Apart from last one.
01:30:997 (7) - New combo?
01:32:476 (7) - ^
Break it's very long IMO.
02:35:223 (9) - Prolong this slider to the red tick?
03:07:335 (8) - New combo? X

•Microphone• I don't understand you.
02:22:975 (2) - Ugly position for this circle, but it's good.
02:24:665 (2) - ^

•Handlebars• Look at the posts above yours.
00:28:257 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:32:482 (1) - ^
02:16:848 (1,1) - Remove new combo.

Star~
kino77
Nice map~

[General]
Preview time 01:35:017 ?

[Handlebars]
01:07:553 (2) - 1 grid right?
01:24:454 - Remove finish?
01:33:327 (1,2,1) - Spacing?
01:34:172 - These timing section won't work on slider,remove them?
01:41:355 (2) - Remove clap?

[Microphone]
00:51:919 (3) - Remove finish?
01:34:384 - Volume 40%? or it can't tell the diffrent from volume 0%.
01:46:003 - Clap?
02:18:539 (2) - Don't slience it,volume 50%?
02:21:919 (2) - ^
02:28:679 - Add note?
03:02:482 (1) - Move away from end of 3? may misleading the players.

[Holocaust]
You need to insert the BG,or the warning banner will be invisible under "no video".
02:15:581 - Show the spacing warning here?
02:37:975 (2) - Put right under end of 1?

Hitsound mod
SPOILER
01:37:130 - Remove clap?
01:38:820 - ^
01:40:088 - ^
01:40:510 - ^
01:43:891 - ^
01:45:581 - ^
01:47:271 - ^
01:47:693 - ^

Star~
NoteKuroi
Star x'3
Andrea
[Overall]

I don't see the background on all the difficulties. Add it again and do a full submission.

[Difficulties]

[Microphone]

01:48:961 ~ 02:13:891 - Seriously, this break is too long. You should map something.

[Holocaust]

I can't see the warnings because the background is black, so when you fix the background I'll check them.


01:48:961 ~ 02:14:313 - Seriously, this break is too long. You should map something.
03:05:862 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is way too evil.


Honestly I don't like 2x BPM Sections, I'll suggest you to remove them.
Andrea
After re-checking you have an unused file .osb, you should remove it.

EDIT: The file .osb seems to doesn't leave the folder, it's fine anyway. Bubbled~
Lilac
No. As much as I like this song, it's not fit for ranking just yet.

For one, the preview time is near the end of the song. No.

The hitsound volume is too soft, it's unbearable. You've got a x2 part and when the ending part gets louder and louder, you still have soft hitsounds. I disapprove this.

For a song that talks about how humanity desires to be more powerful and dominant against each other, this map doesn't show and have a feel for it. Hence, not fit for ranking.

After all, ranking is about making a good quality map of a song.
maal
I still find this mp3 crappy.. There's something to it. It doesn't sound like a 256 kbps song.
Lilac
If you don't care about what the song means, that's fine. Just watch how you say it.

And if you want actual map issues, here they are.

[General]
02:42:20 - Unnecessary Kiai Burst. Care to justify it?

[Handlebars]
Is this the only difficulty with Normal Hitsounds other than just the end?

[Microphone]
The video offset for this difficulty is different to the other ones.

00:42:62 (1,2,3) - The spacing for these 3 circles are closer than the rest.
02:56:14 - The spacing starts of small, goes into jumps and then shrinks back. Hmm...

[Holocaust]
The Warning is a bit hard to see. Especially when you play it with the video.

00:30:15 (4,1) - Spacing seems unfair.
00:31:63 (3,4,5,6) - I've played this through 10 times and I still don't know what beat you are trying to land on.
Topic Starter
-Xero-

MarioBros777 wrote:

If you don't care about what the song means, that's fine. Just watch how you say it.

And if you want actual map issues, here they are.

[General]
02:42:20 - Unnecessary Kiai Burst. Care to justify it? X

[Handlebars]
Is this the only difficulty with Normal Hitsounds other than just the end? X, yes it is.

[Microphone]
The video offset for this difficulty is different to the other ones. Fixed

00:42:62 (1,2,3) - The spacing for these 3 circles are closer than the rest. Fixed
02:56:14 - The spacing starts of small, goes into jumps and then shrinks back. Hmm... X

[Holocaust]
The Warning is a bit hard to see. Especially when you play it with the video.

00:30:15 (4,1) - Spacing seems unfair. X
00:31:63 (3,4,5,6) - I've played this through 10 times and I still don't know what beat you are trying to land on. Easy, it follows the vocal, like everything. "Famous and Rapper".
deadbeat
irc mod. it does seem to be getting better..but some parts u really should look over
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