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Leorda
Guten Morgen

[Storyboard]
33.png have an uneeded space, you have to cut it down

[Handlebars]
00:28:257 (1,1) - Remove new combo?
01:23:609 (x) - Add note?
01:34:172 (1) - Remove new combo?
01:37:553 (x) - Add note?
01:39:243 (x) - ^

[Microphone]
01:47:271 (4) - Mix it up with whistle and finish at the end, is not good, remove one

[Holocaust]
01:48:961 (B) - The breaks are too long, OMG

Good song
STAR
Topic Starter
-Xero-

Leorda wrote:

Guten Morgen

XERO:
Fixed
Asking for another opinion/I think about it
No!



[Storyboard]
33.png have an uneeded space, you have to cut it down X, it's not like i didn't mean to do it like this...

[Handlebars]
00:28:257 (1,1) - Remove new combo? X
01:23:609 (x) - Add note? X
01:34:172 (1) - Remove new combo? X, done already
01:37:553 (x) - Add note? X
01:39:243 (x) - ^ X

[Microphone]
01:47:271 (4) - Mix it up with whistle and finish at the end, is not good, remove one X

[Holocaust]
01:48:961 (B) - The breaks are too long, OMG No, ZOMFG! Its the only one!!

Good song
STAR
Real1
I can ride my bike with no handlebars!!

[General]
[Microphone wants to have Kiai in the end too like Holocaust does.

[Handlebars]
00:38:398 (2) - Sounds better ending at 00:38:820 (White tick)
01:30:370 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - This is supposed to be Easy, no? Noobs may get confused here..
01:34:172 (2) - This would feel better if it was further away from (1)

[Microphone]
01:35:862 - If you listen to the sound effect of the music in this spot (and every 4th white tick following) it sounds different. If you put a clap on each one of those, it will sound so awesome, trust me. :) The notes I'm talking about would be the following:
01:35:440 (3) - Slider end point.
01:36:708 (3) - Slider end point.
01:38:398 (3) - Slider end point.
01:40:088 (3) - Last slider end point.
01:42:623 (3) - This note
01:43:468 (6) - Slider end point

:D

[Holocaust]
The speed changes are kinda too sudden IMO... But that's just me.
03:05:862 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Ouch. xD



Starred.
Topic Starter
-Xero-

Real1 wrote:

I can ride my bike with no handlebars!!

XERO:
Fixed
Asking for another opinion/I think about it
No!



[General]
[Microphone wants to have Kiai in the end too like Holocaust does. Ooops!

[Handlebars]
00:38:398 (2) - Sounds better ending at 00:38:820 (White tick) X
01:30:370 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - This is supposed to be Easy, no? Noobs may get confused here.. X
01:34:172 (2) - This would feel better if it was further away from (1) X

[Microphone] X, sounds cool!
01:35:862 - If you listen to the sound effect of the music in this spot (and every 4th white tick following) it sounds different. If you put a clap on each one of those, it will sound so awesome, trust me. :) The notes I'm talking about would be the following:
01:35:440 (3) - Slider end point.
01:36:708 (3) - Slider end point.
01:38:398 (3) - Slider end point.
01:40:088 (3) - Last slider end point.
01:42:623 (3) - This note
01:43:468 (6) - Slider end point

:D

[Holocaust] X
The speed changes are kinda too sudden IMO... But that's just me.
03:05:862 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Ouch. xD



Starred.
Linkmaster
Good job! Keep it up!

+Star
YGOkid8
Increase Hitsound Volume. I literally can't hear any of the beats.
Topic Starter
-Xero-

YGOkid8 wrote:

Increase Hitsound Volume. I literally can't hear any of the beats.
No.
NotShinta
I didn't get the BG or Vid. I tried DLing twice, so I don't think it was that download. Try full uploading.

Handlebars
Map to the end. Yes, I know you will refuse this, but the rest is good and it's just lazy.

Microphone
Uh, maybe use a smaller grid size?
01:47:693 (5) - This isn't parallel to 01:46:848 (3). Wow I mod minor stuff.
02:17:271 (1) - This looks ugly. Try deleting the last tick thing.
02:37:764 (2,3) - Spacing.
02:43:046 (3) - Spacing.
02:50:229 (3) - ^
02:52:764 (3) - ^

Holocaust
00:30:792 (1) - Looks ugly.
Wow crazily awesome.

Yeah all suggestions, except the spacing ones. Starred.
Topic Starter
-Xero-

IAmNotShinta wrote:

XERO:
Fixed
Asking for another opinion/I think about it
No!



I didn't get the BG or Vid. I tried DLing twice, so I don't think it was that download. Try full uploading. X

Handlebars
Map to the end. Yes, I know you will refuse this, but the rest is good and it's just lazy. X, now shut up..

Microphone
Uh, maybe use a smaller grid size? X
01:47:693 (5) - This isn't parallel to 01:46:848 (3). Wow I mod minor stuff. Yes, you do.
02:17:271 (1) - This looks ugly. Try deleting the last tick thing. X
02:37:764 (2,3) - Spacing. X
02:43:046 (3) - Spacing. X
02:50:229 (3) - ^ X
02:52:764 (3) - ^ X

Holocaust
00:30:792 (1) - Looks ugly. X
Wow crazily awesome.

Yeah all suggestions, except the spacing ones. Starred.
DJPop
~Handlebars~
00:28:257 (1) - remove new combo
01:41:355 (1) - ^
01:41:778 (2) - new combo

~Microphone~
00:39:877 (2) - move right 1 grid (Lv3)
01:32:060 (3) - move down 1 grid (Lv2) OR 01:31:637 (1,2) - move up 2 grrids (Lv2)
01:46:848 (3,4) - match the vocal ??
02:16:426 (1) - remove new combo
02:18:539 (2) - should be removed
02:21:919 (2) - ^
02:40:299 (4) - move down 1 grid (Lv3)
03:04:595 (3) - new combo

~Holocaust~
Fine...


+Star
Candos
I like this map =D
Kecco
•Overall•
Timing : Offset 366 ~ Resnap All Notes
What the file 33.png is used for? If it's useful remove it and Full Submitt.

•Holocaust•
01:30:997 (7) - New combo?
01:32:476 (7) - ^
Break it's very long IMO.
02:35:223 (9) - Prolong this slider to the red tick?
03:07:335 (8) - New combo?

•Microphone•
02:22:975 (2) - Ugly position for this circle, but it's good.
02:24:665 (2) - ^

•Handlebars•
00:28:257 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:32:482 (1) - ^
02:16:848 (1,1) - Remove new combo.

Star~
Topic Starter
-Xero-

Kecco wrote:

•Overall•
Timing : Offset 366 ~ Resnap All Notes X
What the file 33.png is used for? If it's useful remove it and Full Submitt. No comment.

•Holocaust• Apart from last one.
01:30:997 (7) - New combo?
01:32:476 (7) - ^
Break it's very long IMO.
02:35:223 (9) - Prolong this slider to the red tick?
03:07:335 (8) - New combo? X

•Microphone• I don't understand you.
02:22:975 (2) - Ugly position for this circle, but it's good.
02:24:665 (2) - ^

•Handlebars• Look at the posts above yours.
00:28:257 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:32:482 (1) - ^
02:16:848 (1,1) - Remove new combo.

Star~
kino77
Nice map~

[General]
Preview time 01:35:017 ?

[Handlebars]
01:07:553 (2) - 1 grid right?
01:24:454 - Remove finish?
01:33:327 (1,2,1) - Spacing?
01:34:172 - These timing section won't work on slider,remove them?
01:41:355 (2) - Remove clap?

[Microphone]
00:51:919 (3) - Remove finish?
01:34:384 - Volume 40%? or it can't tell the diffrent from volume 0%.
01:46:003 - Clap?
02:18:539 (2) - Don't slience it,volume 50%?
02:21:919 (2) - ^
02:28:679 - Add note?
03:02:482 (1) - Move away from end of 3? may misleading the players.

[Holocaust]
You need to insert the BG,or the warning banner will be invisible under "no video".
02:15:581 - Show the spacing warning here?
02:37:975 (2) - Put right under end of 1?

Hitsound mod
SPOILER
01:37:130 - Remove clap?
01:38:820 - ^
01:40:088 - ^
01:40:510 - ^
01:43:891 - ^
01:45:581 - ^
01:47:271 - ^
01:47:693 - ^

Star~
NoteKuroi
Star x'3
Andrea
[Overall]

I don't see the background on all the difficulties. Add it again and do a full submission.

[Difficulties]

[Microphone]

01:48:961 ~ 02:13:891 - Seriously, this break is too long. You should map something.

[Holocaust]

I can't see the warnings because the background is black, so when you fix the background I'll check them.


01:48:961 ~ 02:14:313 - Seriously, this break is too long. You should map something.
03:05:862 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is way too evil.


Honestly I don't like 2x BPM Sections, I'll suggest you to remove them.
Andrea
After re-checking you have an unused file .osb, you should remove it.

EDIT: The file .osb seems to doesn't leave the folder, it's fine anyway. Bubbled~
Lilac
No. As much as I like this song, it's not fit for ranking just yet.

For one, the preview time is near the end of the song. No.

The hitsound volume is too soft, it's unbearable. You've got a x2 part and when the ending part gets louder and louder, you still have soft hitsounds. I disapprove this.

For a song that talks about how humanity desires to be more powerful and dominant against each other, this map doesn't show and have a feel for it. Hence, not fit for ranking.

After all, ranking is about making a good quality map of a song.
maal
I still find this mp3 crappy.. There's something to it. It doesn't sound like a 256 kbps song.
Lilac
If you don't care about what the song means, that's fine. Just watch how you say it.

And if you want actual map issues, here they are.

[General]
02:42:20 - Unnecessary Kiai Burst. Care to justify it?

[Handlebars]
Is this the only difficulty with Normal Hitsounds other than just the end?

[Microphone]
The video offset for this difficulty is different to the other ones.

00:42:62 (1,2,3) - The spacing for these 3 circles are closer than the rest.
02:56:14 - The spacing starts of small, goes into jumps and then shrinks back. Hmm...

[Holocaust]
The Warning is a bit hard to see. Especially when you play it with the video.

00:30:15 (4,1) - Spacing seems unfair.
00:31:63 (3,4,5,6) - I've played this through 10 times and I still don't know what beat you are trying to land on.
Topic Starter
-Xero-

MarioBros777 wrote:

If you don't care about what the song means, that's fine. Just watch how you say it.

And if you want actual map issues, here they are.

[General]
02:42:20 - Unnecessary Kiai Burst. Care to justify it? X

[Handlebars]
Is this the only difficulty with Normal Hitsounds other than just the end? X, yes it is.

[Microphone]
The video offset for this difficulty is different to the other ones. Fixed

00:42:62 (1,2,3) - The spacing for these 3 circles are closer than the rest. Fixed
02:56:14 - The spacing starts of small, goes into jumps and then shrinks back. Hmm... X

[Holocaust]
The Warning is a bit hard to see. Especially when you play it with the video.

00:30:15 (4,1) - Spacing seems unfair. X
00:31:63 (3,4,5,6) - I've played this through 10 times and I still don't know what beat you are trying to land on. Easy, it follows the vocal, like everything. "Famous and Rapper".
deadbeat
irc mod. it does seem to be getting better..but some parts u really should look over
anonymous_old
Holocaust
01:26:778 (2,3) - (3) beat is weird.
01:31:215 (8,9,10) - Pattern doesn't make sense.
01:34:172 - Move timing sections 1/4 before note. (Split the last one so kiai is in the right place.)
01:40:088 (2) - New combo?
01:42:834 (4) - Beginning doesn't make sense to me.
01:46:848 (4) - New combo?
02:12:412 - Add "get ready" or something. After the spinner, it's too late.
02:18:116 - Add "!!".
02:18:116 (9,9) - Timing section 1/8 before.
02:17:271 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - <spacing-nazi />
02:20:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - <spacing-nazi />
02:27:412 - Alert needs to be more visible. It could be the video, though.
02:33:961 (1,2,3,4) - STILL doesn't make sense.
02:50:651 (7) - New combo?
DarkDunskin
Hier die Map ist gut so. Krissn Stern, hoffe das wird bald was :)
Roddie
Hi :3

Blue: Suggestions.
Red: Must be fixed.

Handlebars:

00:26:567 (3)-I don't like that whistle there. =/ Remove it and put a clap instead.
01:35:862 (2)-Remove whistle, add clap instead.
01:41:355 (2)-Remove clap.
02:49:806 (2, 4)-On 2, add clap on end of slider. On 4, remove clap from reverse arrow.
02:52:764 (1)-Remove clap from reverse arrow.
02:52:454 (1)-Remove new combo and remove clap from reverse arrow.
02:56:989 (3)-Remove whistle, add clap instead.
03:06:285 (1)-Add finish?


Microphone:

02:05:017 (3)-Remove clap from end of slider.
02:05:440 (2)-^
02:09:665 (3) Remove whistle from beginning of slider, add a clap instead.
02:10:933 (3)-Remove clap from end of slider.
02:12:200 (2)-Remove claps from 1st reverse arrow and end of slider.
02:43:046 (3)-Add clap on end of slider
02:44:313 (2)-Remove clap from reverse arrow.
02:46:003 (2)-^
02:47:693 (2)-^
02:50:229 (3)-Add clap on beginning of slider and remove clap from end of slider.
02:54;454 (3)-Remove clap from reverse arrow.


Holocaust:

01:36:708 (1)-Remove clap from reverse arrow.
01:38:398 (1)-^
01:40:088 (1)-Remove claps from beginning of slider and from 2nd reverse arrow.
01:43:468 (1)-Remove clap from reverse arrow.
01:45:158 (1)-^
01:46:848 (1)-Remove claps from 1st reverse arrow and end of slider.
02:50:229 (5)-Remove whistle, add clap instead.


Looks alright.

Good luck getting this ranked! :)

Star!
Mianki
stars~
Lunarhiro
Fun map ;o
NoHitter
General
Move the preview point to: 00:52:130. The current one starts at "can't". You should start it at "I"
The kiai at 02:28:891 should be moved to 02:29:102.

Handlebars
I don't like how some sliders overlap each other at the edges [e.g. 02:18:961 (1,2)]
00:31:426 (1) - This part sounds weird. I would suggest moving it 1/2 back to 00:31:215.
01:07:975 (x) - IMO would be better if the break started after this note. (It's also consistent with the other breaks if you add a note)
01:34:172 (2) - Timing section that changes volume should be put 1/4 back.
01:35:017 (1) - It changes volume but adds kiai too. Add another section 1/4 back that only changes the volume back to full.

Microphone
Still not liking some overlaps. [e.g. 00:40:299 (4,1)]
01:34:172 (4) - Timing section that changes volume should be put 1/4 back.

Holocaust
That x2 part seems unnecessary, but I won't ask you to remove it if you really want it.
Are.png seems necessary since 33.png basically warns you already. I suggest getting rid of Are.png and just replace it with 33.png
02:17:271 (x) - 33.png's movement here is unneeded.
Sakura
Remember that some of theese errors are suggestions not directions, feel free to take or leave any and edit as you see fit.

[osz File Scan!]
Nothing wrong here.

[General]
The preivew time on Holocaust and Microphone is: 52341 ms, but on Handlebars is: 52130 ms Make all the preview times the same.
There seems to be too much kiai

[Holocaust]
I think 2x (to 2.0 slider vel that would be 4.0 slider vel O_O) is too much.
01:33:539 (2,3) - Nothing here hints me to a jump, i suggest swapping (4) and (3)
02:08:820 (1,2) - Spacing too short
02:47:905 (3,4) - Spacing too short

[Storyboard]
You could use more loops.
!! is too vague about what's going to happen.

[Microphone]
01:40:088 (3) - Could look better if you make it more curvy, your control points are awkward on this slider here's an example:
02:15:581 (1,1) - Could look better, more curvy like this for example:
02:27:412 (2) - Try something like this?
02:40:933 (1) - Why do you have the control points on this slider so awkwardly placed?
02:43:046 (3) - Make more curvy? like in one of the examples mentioned before?

[Handlebars]
I don't mind it but, why does this diff have an extra break?
00:26:567 (3) - This Normal whistle sounds really bad on here, i recommend you switch to something else.
01:34:172 (2) - I dont see why the need to silence this, also it could be more curvy.

[Overall]
I'm impressed with how you worked with your sliders on [Holocaust] however all sliders need some love, you shouldn't forget about other sliders, i'm not starring this on the total basis of you not wanting to dedicate better to the other diff's sliders
wmfchris
[Holocaust] spacing not stable enough...?
0:14:947 (5) down 1 grid?
-------------based on even spacing, just suggestions
0:24:243 (3) up 1 grid
0:32:060 (5) left 1 grid?
0:51:708 (3) up 1 grid
0:58:046 (3) left 1 grid, next combo's (3) right 1 grid?
------------
2:18:010 (8,9) up 1 grid
2:34:172 (3,4) right 1 grid?

[Microphone]
2:29:102 (2) right 1 grid
2:36:919 (4) ^

star~
Soaprman
Good maps. Holocaust was particularly fun. <- good out of context line right here

Holocaust
02:29:736 (4,5,6) - either stack these or space them out wider. Kind of hard to tell if they're 1/4 or 1/2 as they are now.

02:36:285 (2,3,4) - this was pretty weird. I didn't miss on it but...
Shohei Ohtani
General:
Stop break at 02:02:06, when he goes into the thematic material, instead of akwardly starting in the middle of the reiteration of the thematic material.

Microphone:

All thinks like 02:57:412 (1,2,1,2,3) - Remove combo on the third note :D~.

Yeah >w<.
Xgor
[All difficulites]
Can't you pleeease use Normal sample set from 02:12:200 to the end.
Sounds so much better and fits the song allot.

It's makes far more sense to end the break at 02:02:060.

[Handlebars]
Why not make the same break placement as the other difficulites.

01:34:172 (2,1) - What's with this jump here. Makes no sense at all.
02:36:496 (2) - I think this sounds/feels better as a 1/1 long slider and placed 1/2 later.


[Microphone]

00:16:848 (1) - I think just a circle here fits more.
00:18:539 (1) - ^
00:18:539 (1) - ^
00:35:017 (4,1) - It might be a good idea to spaced these
01:34:172 (4) - I don't get the point of a short repeating slider here...

[Holocaust]
Not found of 1,3x spacing but meh...

01:33:539 (2,3) - Move 3 grids right to make a square pattern? (Level 2)
If you do that, move 01:34:172 (5,6,7,8,1,2) 1,5 grids right (Level 2)
02:18:116 (9) - Move up one grid up? (Level 2)

The ending drives me nuts x.x



Pretty good map, the ending on Holocaust is kinda harsh but I guess it's fine.
Have a star for now.
*star*
Guzzzzm4n
Hello~

We started well, because I love this song :)

[Handlebars]
00:14:736 : Align it with the previous slider
01:23:186 : Save yourself work and remove this circle, there is not very good (is hidden)
01:33:116 : If the slider has to go somewhere, you go in the right white line
01:41:335 : Align it with the end of the previous slider
02:40:933 : This does not look good slider, because you do not normal?

[Microphone]
00:29:947 : This slider has to start a line before, and must also finish a line before (Must be a short slider)
01:11:778 : Remove the whistle
02:01:954 : Add Circle
02:08:715 : ^
02:22:975 : Get him out of there, is hidden and does not look good
02:23:186 : From here, start the machine gun whistles. this is an abuse, or remove or please do not put so much because they sound great
02:24:665 : Get him out of there, is hidden and does not look good

[Holocaust]
00:14:736 : Remove this circle, and 5 also
00:21:496 : ^
00:39:243 : That slider is down the other slider, remove it or move it
01:10:933 : Remove this circle
01:14:208 : Add Circle
01:14:313 : Remove this stream
01:21:074 : Remove this circle
02:35:440 : waa, Rain whistle :(
03:05:862 : From now on, this map you want to be rank, becomes Approved. :o

Well, That is all.
Hope you served :)
Star
Soaprman
This map is still fun. And I don't have anything better to do with these stars...
Topic Starter
-Xero-
Omg ilu.

Also, mods will be done tomorrow.
Xgor
Let's hope I don't break anything by bringing this.
James2250
One of my favorite songs (and a nice map to go along with it)

Ending of Holocaust gets pretty hard :D
Alace
how can you guys accept stuffs like this
Xgor

Alace wrote:

how can you guys accept stuffs like this
I kinda was doubting over this but I thought it was fine and worked :/

It could be better so pop I if you find it unrankible.
yeahyeahyeahhh

Alace wrote:

how can you guys accept stuffs like this
dumbest shit ever, srs.
Topic Starter
-Xero-
Lololol popped my own bubbled map for the 2nd time
Xgor

Xgor wrote:

Let's hope I don't break anything by bringing this.
Mashley
Offset is late, I'd suggest 354

Holocaust
01:17:482 (8) - Inconsistent spacing... fix that
01:34:172 (5,6,7,8) - Ew, don't silence them so much. If you want a good hitsound effect there, switch to Normal sampleset.
01:45:158 (1) - Remove new combo
01:46:848 (1) - ^
Really dislike the whistle spam in the last section
This diff would be much better with a higher approach rate, at the moment it feels slow.

Microphone
The approach rate should also be higher here
02:57:834 (1) - Remove new combo
02:59:524 (1) - ^
03:01:214 (1) - ^
03:02:904 (1) - ^
03:04:595 (1) - ^
This diff also has annoying whistle spam

Handlebars
00:28:257 (1) - Remove new combo
02:15:989 (1) - That's really soon after a spinner for easy....

Poooooooooooopped Thanks, rebubbled
Larto
Uh, that's some insane shit.
Claudia_old
dis song.

grats on ranking though
maay
grats xero :p
maal
Finally! Grats Xero!
Topic Starter
-Xero-
Thanks all of you!

If anybody is offended by the difficulty name "Holocaust" I am sorry, i wouldn't use that if it wouldn't fit the song.
Please don't think I am doing this to provocate you.
Charles445
What's with the approach rate?
dNextGen
I CAN RIDE MY BIKE WITH NO HANDLEBARS

WITH NO HANDLEBARS

I CAN SEE YOUR FACE ON THE TELEPHONE

ON THE TELEPHONE

epic map is epic 8-)
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