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Misconduct between Beatmap Nominators

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Loctav
Hello everyone!

I got known to the fact that there has been severe bullying and behavior of unacceptable nature roaming around between the BNG for a while right now.
As we all understand, you are not a team. So far, so good. Anyways, it is true that some of your fellow members may not be as experienced as others, might do more errors and maybe might also be more sloppy in their way of doing things.
However, there have been cases where a large scale of group members were partying up to intentionally bash a certain Beatmap Nominator or even set traps for them to humiliate them in public, making fun of them and forcefully remove them from the Beatmap Nominators.

So let me clear this up once and forever:
  1. You are not 12! Don't behave like a blonde, chewing gum chewing diva that laughs on everyone who is not wearing Prada - or in this case, might not be part of your pseudo trash elite group that you declared upon yourself.
  2. Instead of bashing them, teach them! Oh, too much effort? Well, ignore them then. You all started with being noobs in modding, every - single - one - of - you. And how did you improve? Sure, by being bullied from everyone - oh wait.
  3. I will kick every BN from this group who is unable to behave in a proper fashion towards other Beatmap Nominators. This includes mocking people in your very dear Skype conversation, placing traps purposefully on beatmaps to humiliate people or to generally have a very disgusting misconduct. You think, I can't do that? Good luck then.
  4. I have zero tolerance for this disgusting behavior. Z-e-r-o. I hope this is clear now
Oh yes, I know already all people who are involved in this. Every single name is known to me. How to get amnesty?
Post here, humiliate yourself as being one of the idiots running around and thinking they are something better. And APOLOGIZE for what you did. (this includes to explicitely state in what you did in the first place).
If you don't do that, I'll remove you and slap high sliences on you.

Have a nice day.

P.S.: You have 72h (27th April 2015) to do your apology. My harpoon is ready.
Cherry Blossom
I apologize for everything I said about recent maps, BNs and even staff members. I know Loctav is keeping an eye on everyone, everywhere.
I've started to behave more or less well during these past weeks. I admit that I was arrogant, and someone really helped me to change my behaviour, and i love this person. Just one thing i keep in mind, "do not take osu! too seriously", this comes from her.

Just expressing myself, now i can sleep well.
scanter
lol prisoner's dilemma
Topic Starter
Loctav

Anais wrote:

lol prisoner's dilemma
you seem to ask for being removed, don't you?
Nyukai
I'd like to apologize to all the people I've said something bad and I didn't notice until later, even if they're BN or not, and I know sometimes I wrote something a bit out of place or something like that. I never insult to someone but anyways I've felt bad sometimes with some people and maybe I said something wrong about someone that I shouldn't, so I admit it. Long time ago I discussed with a BN and a QAT for a reason which I wasn't right after all, etc etc., I don't think there's need to comment details. Personally I think I've changed my mind a bit and my behaviour is a bit better actually, anyways I never had the oportunity to apologize even when I did my best.

If I made you feel bad sometimes and we never talked about that, I'm sorry. This doesn't go to one person only. If I do something wrong, just tell me. I'm really happy to be here and I don't want to make feel bad to anyone, so if I did that to you, whoever is reading this, I'm really sorry, because it wasn't my intention.
Sekai
I'd like to apologize to to everyone if i said something bad about them, I really didn't mean it to be honest. And if i said something bad about your maps, please forgive for doing that, since i really don't mean, and even though i'm BN that don't mean since BNs are not staff anymore we're all the same. And i really hope we can get along much better and osu is just a game and we shouldn't take more seriously. and I really hope everyone get along much better from now on. And about if i made you're maps DQ or popped for any reasons please forgive me for doing that since, sometimes it's not my choice if i didn't notice the problem in the map, since you know the BNs are also humans and they might make mistakes. So yeah I really hope everyone gets it now.

And, I'm really working hard in the BN, it took me too long to reach here, i'm really happy being here. Just felt like saying this. And I really hope everything goes okay, after this. Since we really don't want this game to ruined by such behavior.
And another thing, I really want to apologize to ByBy_ChAn, if i did or said anything bad to her, you know that wasn't my intention at all, and i didn't mean anything i said. and I'm sorry for my bad behavior to you.


So yeah, I'm really sorry for everything bad i did or said, you know that totally wasn't my intention.
Gero
I want to drop something too, I'd like to apologize if I said or I made something that was insulting/wrong to you, wasn't my intention also sorry if because me you got a DQ/Pop, you know I'm still human and sometimes I forgot things that are important, another reason for what I want to apologize is because a few days ago I discussed with a BN about a not valid pop reason and my attitude wasn't good because I got mad but after all it was resolved and now the map is on the qualified category, I'll be more careful the next time and I promise it will not happen again so I hope you forgive me.
Kyubey
To be honest, I don't know what is going here and there, but I find this place really nice to apologize to ByBy_Chan, since I somehow teased her before with some sarcastic words. I already stopped that times ago and I admitted that I acted like a child, but I was too shy to apologize before. Sorry, ByBy_Chan, for my bad behavior to you.
And I'd like to apologize to everyone who got somehow affected by my bad posts. I feel really ashamed for my behavior, because I hate any kinds of conflicts and I don't know how could I act like this. These posts were pretty harsh, and I admit that. I don't want to look like some agressive person, and I don't want to see anyone being disappointed in me, I promise my behavior won't be that bad anymore, because I want to be good part of this community, not something like part of dark side of community. Sorry, everyone.
Pereira006
I'd like to apologize for all people, community and maps. When I told all people if maps is bad or I disrespect your style, I just wanna your maps be more safe with RC and guidelines because I don't wanna see your map get DQ or popbubble some reason. If you map get popbubble or DQ by my icons, I really sorry, I trying everthing possible if I can, but your guys can always ask me I will happy to help and I will see everthing if I can, If I can't I'm sorry just the risky made me worry and pleasse forget me if I'm not helpfull.

I'm sorry.
meii18
I'd like to apologize to everyone for my mistakes before becoming a BN ;w; I was a dumb then and my brain was very crazy because I'm very worried about exams /w\ Everyone make mistakes but I made a lot of mistakes before becoming a BN because I was very excited to be BN but a QAT said to me to stop making mistakes so I did it and I hope I will not mistakes again ;w; Also forgot to say something: I'm really sorry that you got DQs/pop because I'm considered as a lazy person but also I'm busy but I try all my best to be a good BN /w\

Sorry to everyone ;_; I'm so sorry
Spy
I don't know what happened to BNs, but hope everything will be fine soon.
BeatofIke
I really don't think I have done anything bad to anyone (including the BNs and the Staff), but if I have did anything offensive to anyone then I can deeply apologize everyone for that. In fact, after I was removed from staff, I already apologize to Loctav and the other staff members (and Lanturn for giving him an impact score of 3 for this mapset and I even apologize to the mapper, CodeS, as well) for fucking up many times and therefore I just learn from it and move on. That 4 month punishment alone had already taught me something. I didn't return to BAT/BN just to frame other BNs and humiliate them them in public. I mean seriously who is inhuman enough to do such a thing? There are obliviously soulless people out there, but I'm definitely not one of them. My purpose in returning to BAT/BN is to learn from my past mistakes and to redeem myself (and improve) and to show you that I can perform better in the future. I have already got kicked out twice and I really don't want this to be my 3rd, so I say it again: I apologize to everyone I may have offended without even realizing it. I want to make that clear to everyone.

and please, you all know that I'm a nice BN, right? ;w;

EDIT: Fixed some grammar, add a bit more words/sentences, and added some bold text.
Spectator
I'd like to apologize to some Korean BNs, especially HabiHolic, about my misunderstanding and careless words. Even if she did some mistakes, I shouldn't have insulted her for any reason. As it has written like we should apologize about what we did, I'd like to mention what i misdid. Actually, I was in chat with some korean BNs, talking about how badly habiholic dealing with BN work(likewise, giving a map bubble without checking it carefully, etc.). And in that progress, I said something insulting about her and, furthermore, we were supposed to make the map she gave a bubble being unbubbled so that she would get some impact score which can even lead her to be dismissed, and this is actually what we wanted(getting rid of skill-less BN). However, now I know what I did in this case is literally inappropriate action to be done, particularly as a BN.

Actually I already said her that I feel sorry about my mistakes, yet, probably it wasn't enough at all. I'd like to apologize her once again and other korean BNs about my past childish attitudes. I make sure I do not make a same mistake next time, And if I find someone doing his or her BN duty wrongly, as you wrote, I may give him/her a proper advice next time, which could improve them as a BN)

Sorry for the troubles caused.
Xinely
I'd like to say sorry for my all mistakes i have made in my BN life. To be honest when i want to check bubbled maps, usually i do see who bubbled and see the map first, when i find issues on them, i usually just keep silent and just find other safer maps. I realized that i should at least say it to bubbler or on forum to prevent DQ happens. I'd like to apologize too when indonesian channel said something related bad word to BNs or other people, i just kept silent again because i was afraid to told to everyone (well this one happened long time ago)

Once again i apologize for all and mistakes what i didnt say because i cant remember all my mistakes
Sonnyc
Before starting, I'd like to personally appreciate Loctav and other several staff members for their generousity.
  1. Tolerance 1 for setting a nuke icon on an important notice.
  2. Tolerance 2 for setting a bubble icon after being approved mistakenly from CDFA.
  3. Tolerance 3 for conducting a self qualify while remaining me in the BN.
Pretty surprised to realize that I'm still in the BNG, and to realize once again that BN is nothing more than a normal osu! user. I apologize for my several misbehaviours.

Now back to the real; why did such silly conducts happened from me or other group members? Superficially the reason might be because BNG is just a group with several users and is not a team as Loctav pointed out. People feel less relationship between group members and get to lose positive impression each other. Just neutral minded. Then what has leaded to that negative feeling resulting in bullying or humilating? Here comes the ultimate reason which is once again the lack of responsibility.

Until the early 2014, modders struggled a lot to become a part of a BAT, the staff of osu!. osu! is an amazing game because if one has an ability, rather playing, mapping, or modding, they can be the #1 of osu!, get their beatmap ranked, or even become an osu! staff. I'd like to claim that aspects of the past osu! were the true community driven game. Even Loctav has started from a normal user and managed to join one of the highest position of osu!; Staff Manager.

However starting the division of BAT / QAT at the mid 2014, the notion of osu! staff excluded BAT, making modders even harder to enter the staff. Still the red username color in the forum remained, but that has got replaced to a yellow Nominator icon at the early 2015. It functions nicely to distinct them with normal users without nomination power, but had a great impact to the group members to make them feel their work not being highly credited by the game than the QATs. Having the chance towards the osu! staff deprived, taking away what BNs had lead to a great depress.

This case of the bullying stuff will be highly related with the fact that practically it is hard to get somewhere higher than a BN. No matter how hard a modder has struggled to become a BAT at the past, most of them end up as a BN along with unskilled modders. Get in the shoes of an experienced modder to get their efforts compensated totally the same with new modders. Quite selfish you might say, but feeling skeptical towards the time you have spent in this game will be the average reaction.

At the past, the BAT itself would have been the biggest reward for the position, but the current BN has no rewards nor motivations to make want to contribute hardly except for their conscience. Funny thing considering their major job being exactly the same. Though BN is in an important position to nominate beatmaps, some of their job gets denied by the QATs making them feel as BN is nothing. What our staff manager claims us is the same, "BN is NOTHING more than a normal user". Wrong. We are "SOMETHING but a normal user". I've got no idea why the staff manger is managing us BNs who are officially claimed as non-staffs. Instead of trying to take control of BNs, please do try to accept us as a SOMETHING in osu!, and lead us BNs to take the right track on their own. As long as you treat us as a NOTHING, we'll get an autosuggestion that we are really a NOTHING, and will lead BNs to act as a NOTHING while having 0 responsibility towards the game.

I've got enough mercy. I would happiliy get my position of nothing removed and get another myriad silence or even a ban provided that I'm related to that terrible misconduct.
jonathanlfj
As the admin to the BN group mentioned in Loctav's post, I apologize for not being able to sufficiently moderate the discussions, and thus lead to the excessive bullying that took place (why you leave Lust ;_;). From now on I will look over the group more frequently and warn people that initiate bad discussions.

On a side note, if you are a BN and want to join the BN Skype circlejerk group, feel free to send me your Skype username and I will have you added.
riffy
Seems like something happened and I kinda missed it. Anyways, I'd like to apologize, too.

Sorry for anything agressive/offensive being said or done. I've been trying my best to act as a BN member should even though sometimes I was wrong. I am terribly sorry if I offended or hurt you in any way, it was not my intention. Please, find some mercy to understand me and forget the things from the past.

Let's forget the past and move on. With no any offenses. :)
Aka
I know most of us didn't believe that ByBy can make it into the BNG and made some fun over her and her posts. I've done that several times in skype conv, too, i admit it. However it looks like she improved a lot since then and i respect her if she heard rumors about that attitude towards her and didnt bully out in public. I am sorry for being a part of this again.
Sorry to Habi as well, about saying that all her bubbles can be popped, that was rude from my side, sorry. Hope we can still become good comrades and help eachother when a questionable stuff pops up :<
-Nya-
I never bullied anyone (I really dislike bullies) And I was never intentionally mean to anyone. (I hope.)
But I do sometimes have the tendency to make sarcastic remarks or accidentally say something inappropriate that I didn't really mean.

I'm sorry if I had ever upset another fellow BN and please know that that was never my intensions.
And, I also want to say sorry to ByBy_ChAn. If there's a BN that I might have emotionally hurt with words, it would probably be her.
I know she was pretty new to modding in general and couldn't stop myself from questioning her every move. I'm sorry, ByBy-chii~

I didn't know that BN's were actually being bullied like that :o
I really don't want to see behaviour like that in Osu. It just doesn't belong.
Hopefully this issue will be properly cleared up soon.
Cerulean Veyron
Well, I'd like to apologize too. Especially the ones who are close to me, I've been a little guilty for teasing some of my friends about their mappings and so. And almost being rude to people. I'm sorry for what I've said.

At some time, when users requesting me mods a bit quickly, i forced myself to do it and made few rude comments on the mods. I didn't even calm down for my aggressive behavior. I'm very sorry for this behavior of mine, especially to mappers out there that i have modded their maps unpleasantly. I will not make that happen again next time.

Also, i wanted to say sorry to the QATs, for being a dump "defender" of the mapping process when a map being disqualified. This happened here, but not just there. I was too stupid to listen to them, even that i haven't TRIED. All those "It's my style to make it", "I like it at this way", "It's fine, i don't think it's a problem", or anything else related, it ENDS here. I'm very sorry for the inconvenience.

It's been a month i'm trying to be an active BN, trying to give mods in a good way. When i joined the BN, I've learned so many things. Helping the community to grow better, and not overbearing. And yes, it's just a game, not some rocking game of hurricane criticism. I want to meet new people, be nice to them, become friends, and also help everyone with their maps. I'm really sorry for the negative activity in the middle of the process.

I was a bit negligent in #modhelp at some time, i was bored on something, or wanting to talk with someone, or just just passing by. I've almost talked nonsense and some rubbish things over that channel, especially to someone's map. I'm feeling regretful when people also are staring at it, I'm sorry for those ridiculousness.

About everything I've done as a BN. I apologize for making so many mistakes, even a small minor mistake, i made to everyone. Humans do mistakes, so as we do too. Nobody is better than anyone btw, we're all the same.

And finally, i hope you offer me forgiveness. Becoming a BN was worth it, and i will try my all-out best to keep everything fine and appropriate to the osu!community. Let's, now, work as colleagues...
Nwolf
Sorry to all people/maps that I might have offended in #taiko (and everywhere else!). I never meant to hurt anybody, I just sometimes fail to express myself in a correct way and I hope that you can understand. I've tried to apologize a few times already (hi Ono) but I guess doing it here won't hurt, so again: I'm sorry. I try to word myself better so misunderstandings happen less! And if I do say something stupid, note that I'm also just a human and might have a bad day or something, it's natural that I'm not the same all the time.

woof :3
Arzenvald
o_o i surprised when i read this thread..
well i don't really know what the 'actual' thing that happened lately (sorry im slow poke.. orz)

i admit that i ever hurt by bullied fyi, i ever bullied on my 1st month (no one cares :p), that's feelin hurt and then i starts made a mess..
but ugh, somehow i feels guilt, that event affects lots things about me and the others..

also i admit that i ever bully the others too (not as often & as harsh as i get bullied xP)..

Sorry to all people/maps that I might have offended & bullied with / without their knowledge... it's not like i want to revenge or what, but i prefer if everyone address their thought to me directly, than being ignored & mocked from behind... i want to listen more...

because same like nwoff said, I just sometimes fail to express myself in a correct way and I hope that you can understand, And if I do say something stupid, note that I'm also just a human and might have a bad day or something, it's natural that I'm not the same all the time...

but the most is, i can't try to understand more what are the others trying to express about / for me... :C
DakeDekaane
I apologize for being intolerant towards the attitude of some people and bashing on them.
I apologize for being angry at people when people doesn't agree with my mod and then make fun of them when their maps get DQ'd.
I apologize for being close-minded and not being able to keep my mind cool when most of my suggestions are rejected.
I apologize for being elitist in a certain way.

idk if I've done this in public/private, but as I'm not self-aware, shall post it in case I've hurt anyone in the community, unconsciously.

Also thanks, Loctav.
Krfawy
God, I didn't suppose it could be that bad...

Firstly, I would like to apologize for my behaviour. I am aware of my attitude and I understand that my one is unacceptable since we were selected and set as BNs. Yes, the very first point listed by Loctav was about me:

Loctav wrote:

You are not 12! Don't behave like a blonde(...)
I'm sorry for being such a troll-like and childish person. I know many of you might be (completely) disappointed with my personality, then I'm going to improve it as best as I can. It's not the first time when I have to change my behaviours to these ones which are appropriate for exact communities so please, just give me a short recovery time to do a fast change. I'm really sorry for being as I was and I will do what I can to not let it happen again.

Secondly, I would like to say sorry for my not perfect Nominator's performance. As I understood I have to take it more seriously, so I will.

Thirdly, I want to heartily apologize for my lacks of language skills. I don't want to be another person who makes scary mistakes in English and Russian, however, you know it's really hard to learn languages when it's impossible to find any proper teacher or a tutor and the only help is the Internet (especially in my country where it's usual that teachers know less than students). I'm really sorry for making all these language barriers and I'd be thankful if you could be with me during such a scary period.

Moreover, I really apologize if I hurt you with my words. I am really not this kind of person who's on the everlasting opportunity to call everyone a stinky pole dancing goat, but it's more than certain I made a really enormous mistake and I said something what might make you angry or at least offended. I am really sorry for that and I am sorry for being so inexplicable. I'm really trying to be more clear, but in this case I think I need your help BNG.

And as last but not least I'd like to say sorry to people who were ninja'd by me. I am really sorry but as a person who has quite high amount of free time and I just like to look for interesting maps in pending and I like to look at bubbled maps and I just take care of them before any of BNs can do it since it's like: 'WOW nice map, let's mod it' 'OMG someone modded my map without requesting for it... OMG IT'S BN!!! Wait, but I've just asked someone else...' I guess it's quite usual and it... happens. Probably I am not the very first person who's doing such stuff, so I think you can forgive me this point... right? :<

Please, forgive me for being such a... um... blonde? I can't find any better word (to be honest I am kind of speechless at the very moment) but I believe you can understand me and you can give me that chance.

Have a peaceful, tears free and full of love day
Blady Krfawy Kamyczek
captin1
echoing what jonny has said, i apologize for not more actively managing the BN group to prevent this, i will do my best to ensure people are more respectful going forward.

i would like to emphasize what sonnyc has said though. you could even draw the conclusion that the bn as a whole are "bullied" by the staff, and better treatment and respect from all parties would go a long way towards making general attitudes more positive
Yuzeyun
I publicly apologize for my honesty, my overreactions and everything negative*. (Some people may remember the old part of me, Loctav included. This is something in relation.)
Also, for being part of a circlejerk some people have mentioned earlier in the thread.

For my personal hate on one disqualification reason.
For constantly dramaqueening about how my maps are superior.

For my horrible and unprofessional behaviour in general.*

And sincere personal apologies to Nardo and Wolf, for what ever happens with my recently qualified map.
To ByBy, for the reason Aka, Kyubey and some other people have mentioned.
To whoever seriously regarding me as a great mapper, for my constant bitching.
To Momo, and you know why.
To the many mappers I never modded despite having registered mods, and those who were waiting for tomorrow, for 6 months.
To whoever my words and my misconduct might have affected in some way.
To you, Loctav, as well as the osu!staff, for improperly regarding the work you make in order to make osu! better.

* This is a thing I have tried several times to manage, which have lasted for longer that one may think. At least 12 years ago.
Andrea
I'm pretty sad to see situation turned out to be this bad, I'm not really paying much attention to the group but the only thing I could say is just to think always many times before saying or doing something, because for most of them there is no way to go back and fix them or make like they never happened.

Let's just move forward now and make osu! a better place, for everyone. :)

---------------

I'd like to personally apologise to ByBy_ChAn, I admit that I've taken part in the jokes about her in Skype and I feel ashamed about it. I shouldn't have done that in the first place, but helping her improving instead. Even though I didn't insult her, I feel pretty bad for what I did and I feel deeply sorry. I hope I can be forgiven for what I have done.

Also, I'm sorry if I ever said anything sarcastic or annoying about some people and didn't take care about the consequences, it's completely my fault for being this careless, I promise it won't happen again. I should think more before saying something, I can be pretty stupid sometimes and I feel bad for it.

That said, I would like to say a big sorry to everyone I might have offended without wanting, it wasn't my purpose to do that. I am deeply sorry once again for everything wrong I did.
Koiyuki
I apologize for the probably bad words on QATs that I left after disqualification.
Also for someone maybe be hurt by my mods, maybe that day I am in bad moods. Really sorry.

About teasing, everyone comes from newbies. Give them more care and help works much better than it happens now.
At first I dont even know what happened... Havent login skype for months lol.

I believe we can make osu a better place.
Leorda
I apologize for disliking and ignoring maps because I'm lazy to mod maps that needs a lots of works. I should care more for all maps even they needs a lots of works and fixes to help mappers.

And I also apologize for not fulfilling your want to get modded or other things, till you guys aren't patience to wait. Because I have my real life job to help my family especially to guard my grandpa that he currently having stroke since April 2012. This also for TicClick for not stay our promise... sorry TicClick

If I had a bad words, bad behaviors, and something does makes you heart-break, I apologize once again

Well, let's hope this is never happen in future...
Kibbleru
i'll admit i've laughed at some ppl too before. i apologize

sorry byby :C
Iceskulls
Well , I have to sorry if I say anything bad or offend to people , I just want them to understand what I said so I sometimes say something bad since sometimes they tend to keep stubborn , I'm really sorry about this I tend to say something bad or offend when I get angry , now I will try to control myself and try to be generous to everyone I will try not to think anything bad or offend to people around me I will have better communication with people in the future , I wil try to be nice bn too so sorry for anything bad that I did in the past , I won't do anything bad now

I'm really sorry to everyone
HabiHolic
Come to think of it, I did went overboard and overused bubble and rank in the thoughts of helping other mappers. However I never thought that this would cause a bad image and influence to the community, I really apologize for what I have done and also want to apologize everything happened with Korean mappers that involved me. I am really sorry.
Blocko
boop

First of all, I'd like to apologize to some mappers that waited for a long time for me to post a mod/check on their map. Even though I did say that I'll mod it as soon as I can, I have times when I have a busy schedule where I can't really take a deep look in them, when I look at the maps that I need to mod/check and backlogged them further and further, with the primary reason being its quality, or I just don't really feel like doing them/I'm being lazy, which is something I wasn't recently promoted for.

Also, I'd like to apologize to ByBy_ChAn. Even though she was a newly promoted BN, she did some mistakes which we're all capable of, but I did made fun of her behind her back at times in the skype convo. I couldn't really stop myself when others were talking about her and bringing up her recent actions. Even if it was a little bit, I'm sorry for doing all of that.

To all that I've indirectly offended even in the slightest, I apologize for that, too.

At least we can admit our mistakes here so we can better ourselves in the future. (and hopefully get along with each other a lot better, too!)
Hinsvar
Post here, humiliate yourself as being one of the idiots running around and thinking they are something better.
I don't think I'm better than anyone, but I do have my own wrongdoings on other nominators, especially for mockery in "your very dear Skype conversation" (I have to admit I chucked a little) to fellow BNs because they do things that are just... shocking (no, this is not another mockery, this is just me expressing my feeling), and have no interest in assisting them. Also, for being a bystander who doesn't give a damn when things start to get bad.

I am genuinely sorry for this.

Sure, by being bullied from everyone - oh wait.
Ironically, I'm pretty sure that some nominators have people talking crap about them from behind, so this is kinda true. Just saying ;)
BeatofIke
I would like to add more to my apology:

Since I was part of the Skype group as well, I will play safe and would like to apologize to ByBy_ChAn and to HabiHolic since I'm unsure whether I did (or say) anything bad about you guys. I did indeed witnessed that both of you were being made fun of and never told you about it and I kinda feel guilty about that. You both are very hard workers and very passionate with your job as a BN and I really respect that from both of you.

@ByBy_ChAn: Prior to joining the ranks of a BN, you were very dedicated in modding maps and never gave up even though you were rejected many times. You will always PM me for advice and you just keep at it and keep improving. When you finally got promoted after months of trying, I was really happy that you made it. I really wanted you to join our Skype group. I have gone though the same process as you did, when I was aiming to join BAT. In fact, every BN and Staff members in osu! have as well.

@HabiHolic: You were quite similar to me when i first become a BAT and I feel that I can relate to you. I too "went overboard and overused bubble and rank in the thoughts of helping other mappers" and I too "never thought that this would cause a bad image and influence to the community" We both have something in common. I also have done many favors, I nominate maps no matter what, I did not care too much about quality and only looked for formal errors, and I have a hard telling mappers that their mapset is not good enough for nomination. I also was bullied by a few players/mappers via #modhelp and some map threads due to my superficial modding and low standards. Eventually, some of the staff members/management, especially the ones who deeply supported me to join the team, got very disappointed in me and started to slowly lose trust in me. My problem was that I took their warnings very lightly (big mistake btw) and keep repeating my mistakes and was eventually kicked from the position.

I have learned all of this the hard way and I really don't want any of you BNs to make the same mistake like I have. I want both of you guys (including the rest of the BNs) to succeed. I hope that my past experiences will teach both of you guys something and will help reflect on your current experience. I'm really sorry if I have ever offended you guys in any way and I'm sorry for the staff management and to Irreversible for not taking your warnings seriously and not exceeding to your standards then. I understand that I need to start learning and stop feeling sorry for myself. I will take action starting from today. This will no longer be just words anymore.

/me hugs ByBy_ChAn and HabiHolic ;w;
Also, huge respect to Loctav for teaching me a lesson.
Birdy
I'm sorry for flaming Loctav and Aleks on a completely unrelated thing to this topic going on here. But you know, just to be sure and to clear a few things up. I've been pissed off lately because of IRL issues, so I'm hoping you'll understand. That's also why I've tried to be less and less active, while still not dropping out of the team, so I'm also sorry for not being able to check almost any requests, except on weekends.

Sorry.
Secretpipe
Before I write anything , I'd like to say that I'm really confused about that case. I honnestly don't think myself as a nasty guy but if I was one , I'd like to see some screens and then I'd be able to know the bad things I did then.

I'd like to apology for the following reasons :

I was part of the Skype group as Loctav says and even if I didn't trashtalked on Byby_Chan or Habiholic but I remember that I used to be really angry against new reform who used to remove the BATs rights because I loved the time when the Beatmap Appreciation Team was united and we were supporting each others!

I'd like to apology for another reason : I used to trashtalk on new BNs or QAT on #french sometimes because of my bad ideas concerning the new system of modding. I didn't say any name but I wont tell anything like that in the future. I also was in a bad mood cause I wanted to be a QAT one day and I found it impossible cause I was a "simple" BN.

I'd like to finish that post to express my final apologies to the large amount of mappers I've said no to their request of modding. The reason was that I wasn't really involved in the Beatmap Nomination Group some months ago and due to the fact that I wasn't in a good mood + the huge amount of work in my school , I was really disgusted about that. Now what ? I'm kinda back and I'm focusing on modding for a bit and trying to focus on more maps!


Thank you Loctav to having post that thread though because I could feel the tightness between some BNs! I hope the community will go forward and don't forget the most important thing! We're on an awesome Rhythm Game who gather together to enjoy a good moment! c:
AruOtta
I'd like to apologize for all the requested maps I didn't mod because of my lazyness, I hope I'll get into it soon.
I'd also like to apologize for every bad things I said about people (especially Priti), I understand sometimes it's just about a person's personality, so it's ridiculous to mock about this.
And I'd like to apologize about my shyness, since I don't talk a lot on #modhelp or #french, and I know it'd be great if I do.
I'd also like to apologize for one NSFW avatar I had, it was inexcusable from me.

Thanks Loctav, I hope things will become calmer.

(That's all I have to say, well I don't like to be bad with people in general, since it's not fine to be hated, and I find hugs better than insults).
Kodora
I'd like to apologize for for spreading unconfirmed rumors in QQ, and apologize to Lust specifically for my misbehavior towards him few days ago. I understand my fault and I swear that this would never happens again.
Lirai
I'm glad that i still have a time to do this

Ok I'm sorry to anyone else that i might hurt with my words, also i'm sorry if i'm being selective to check a map as BN, i did this because i dont want to see your map being hated after it's ranked which is cause of lack of quality, even that i have responsibility on it
I'm sorry if my job as BN didn't satisfy you

and i'd like to apologize to some japanese ppl who had a bad feeling about my ignorant attitude which is happen in the last couple weeks ago, i admit that it's for prevent dq on my own ranked map but truely i should hear what you guys said and not being such ignorant

i'm still included as newbie on this community so i shouldn't act whatever i want, shame on me
Zan-
i'd like to apologize i seldom to open BN request because of my laziness. i hope i can get rid my laziness next time.
i'd like to apologize to certain mappers for being such ignorant in-game chat / forum PM. i'm sorry mostly because my mood is bad that time.
i'd like to apologize if i can't be friendly to all BNs, again because my mood, i'm such a bit picky, i hope i can be more friendly and easy-going next time.
i'd like to apologize to everyone if ever hurt you.

i hope all BNs can work better from now, because we are fellow cookies!
Lally
I'd like to apologize if I said or I made something wrong or i make felt somebody bad with my way to be,and i would like to say sorry to certain people wich were blaimed in skype conv =v= /
scanter
Hi. I'm glad to ask that for I want. even though my english is a little bad, but plz understand me.

First of all, I sincerely apologize to create and float these things formally. even though "bully" isn't unacceptable thing, but I did such a thing. also I trolled someone's beatmap. because of these things, unintentionally I threw stone korean mapping community and BNs and some mappers. I'm sorry and sorry until now hard and silently active peoples who in mapping community.

I'm tired mentally so many. even if I return to BN again, I can't see but the future of repeating the same mistake over and over. I had rather rest BN than troll to new mappers and nowadays active mappers, because such like my less the will. I'll send apology to every mappers who injured from me also too. but I want to say plz hear the truth from both ways.

I want to enjoy the game from now on. plz drive out me from BN if you hate me.

I'm glad you had time to see this. have a nice today.

thanks for reading.
LordRaika
hey, ive been inactive for 3 weeks.... now im back and i heard LOTS of BN complaining about their situation right now...
well... i just HOPE, even just a LITTLE HOPE and even it sounds really impossible, but i HOPE all people regardless of TITLE can get ALONG and RESPECT each other without their TITLE alone....

also, i ever got the situation where people keep talking about me on the back while I DONT know anything about THEM, WELL.... that doesnt affects me on anything at all, in short... they are framing me eventhou nothings happen ^^ cause i dont give a damn about it and do just fine...

so... i really wish everyone can get along here....
and if i ever do something wrong to people? i apologize, thou i dont think i did.
^^ i jst love rhythm game, this community is awesome... so is everyone involve here, we are all rhythm maniac, just get along....
have a nice day~
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