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- Easy and first 3/4 of Normal were done over irc, including the chat log below.IRC mod2014-12-09 07:15 phate45: hey
2014-12-09 07:33 Xelasto: hi
2014-12-09 07:33 Xelasto: You need something?
2014-12-09 07:33 phate45: i come from Astral Horizon queue
2014-12-09 07:33 phate45: Kruzon notified me that you want help with your map
2014-12-09 07:33 Xelasto: Oh
2014-12-09 07:34 Xelasto: Yes
2014-12-09 07:34 Xelasto: Are you one of the modders?
2014-12-09 07:34 phate45: so, do i make a mod first then we talk about it, or do we just go over it together?
2014-12-09 07:34 phate45: yes, i'm one of the standard modders
2014-12-09 07:35 Xelasto: hmm
2014-12-09 07:35 Xelasto: Can you make a mod first
2014-12-09 07:36 phate45: sure, will you be around in half a hour or so?
2014-12-09 07:36 Xelasto: Oh wait
2014-12-09 07:36 Xelasto: Never I have time
2014-12-09 07:36 Xelasto: Nevermind*
2014-12-09 07:36 Xelasto: We can go over it together
2014-12-09 07:36 Xelasto: If you want
2014-12-09 07:36 phate45:
2014-12-09 07:36 phate45: depends on you
2014-12-09 07:37 phate45: i see that it's your first map
2014-12-09 07:37 Xelasto: Well
2014-12-09 07:37 Xelasto: Not my FIRST
2014-12-09 07:37 Xelasto: But The first SERIOUS one
2014-12-09 07:37 Xelasto: But its still probably not that good XD
2014-12-09 07:37 Xelasto: I tried my best to do timing well
2014-12-09 07:38 phate45: ok
2014-12-09 07:38 Xelasto: I dont know exactly whats wrong with my maps
2014-12-09 07:38 phate45: let me testplay the easy
2014-12-09 07:38 Xelasto: But I know that I need it modded like all others
2014-12-09 07:38 Xelasto: XD
2014-12-09 07:38 Xelasto: kk
2014-12-09 07:38 phate45: you can spec me if you want
2014-12-09 07:38 Xelasto: kk
2014-12-09 07:39 Xelasto: ITs probably spacing
2014-12-09 07:39 phate45: nothing really wrong here
2014-12-09 07:39 phate45: yea
2014-12-09 07:39 phate45: just the spacing
2014-12-09 07:39 phate45: you dont have to overlap just because easy
2014-12-09 07:39 Xelasto: kk
2014-12-09 07:39 phate45: make the notes touch at edges, that'll be fine
2014-12-09 07:40 phate45: nice blankets here
2014-12-09 07:40 phate45: that last slider felt too short
2014-12-09 07:41 Xelasto: Which one?
2014-12-09 07:41 Xelasto: The up arrow ?
2014-12-09 07:41 phate45: the last small one bottom left
2014-12-09 07:41 Xelasto: oh
2014-12-09 07:41 phate45: i'll go over it in the editor once i finish the play
2014-12-09 07:42 Xelasto: woops the spacing XD
2014-12-09 07:42 phate45: the timing felt off where i broke the slider
2014-12-09 07:42 Xelasto: Should I go over it in 25%?
2014-12-09 07:44 phate45: 25% speed? never
2014-12-09 07:44 Xelasto: kk
2014-12-09 07:44 phate45: dont use below 75%
2014-12-09 07:44 phate45: unless very fast
2014-12-09 07:44 phate45: which does not concern this map
2014-12-09 07:44 Xelasto: ok
2014-12-09 07:44 phate45: also, this kiai section felt really nice
2014-12-09 07:44 Xelasto: Thanks
2014-12-09 07:46 phate45: i dont see any reason for the new combos at the end tho
2014-12-09 07:46 phate45: overall, spacing is an issue
2014-12-09 07:46 phate45: it's inconsistent
2014-12-09 07:46 phate45: editor time
2014-12-09 07:46 Xelasto: So should I make the notes touch edges at the beginning?
2014-12-09 07:46 phate45: 00:05:324 (2) - this here
2014-12-09 07:46 phate45: too close to 1
2014-12-09 07:47 phate45: if you move it a bit down
2014-12-09 07:47 Xelasto: kk
2014-12-09 07:47 phate45: you can blanket 3 around the end point
2014-12-09 07:47 phate45: it would look nicer too
2014-12-09 07:47 Xelasto: Should I rotate 2 until its sideways
2014-12-09 07:47 Xelasto: ?
2014-12-09 07:47 phate45: i dont think thats necessary
2014-12-09 07:47 Xelasto: kk
2014-12-09 07:47 phate45: just move it a bit down and bend 3 a bit more to create the blanket
2014-12-09 07:47 Xelasto: So just drag 2 down and blanked 3
2014-12-09 07:48 Xelasto: kk
2014-12-09 07:48 Xelasto: I'm just nervous about normal and hard mode
2014-12-09 07:48 Xelasto: Oh yeah, btw sorry about this but do you have time for hard?
2014-12-09 07:48 Xelasto: Sorry I completed hard after I posted
2014-12-09 07:48 Xelasto: If you dont have time I understand
2014-12-09 07:48 phate45: 00:11:688 (4) - if you space 1,2,3 here, you would need a bit more space to emphasize the 3-4 jump
2014-12-09 07:49 phate45: i just woke up, i have about 18 hours before i go to sleep again
2014-12-09 07:49 phate45:
2014-12-09 07:49 Xelasto: Oh cool
2014-12-09 07:50 phate45: 00:18:233 (3,4,1) -
2014-12-09 07:50 phate45: make 4 a note
2014-12-09 07:50 phate45: and start 1 earlier
2014-12-09 07:50 phate45: make it longer
2014-12-09 07:50 phate45: fits better with vocal
2014-12-09 07:50 Xelasto: number 1?
2014-12-09 07:50 phate45: 00:18:233 (3,4,1) - spacing
2014-12-09 07:51 Xelasto: Btw with 4 should I place the note at the end or beginning of the slider?
2014-12-09 07:51 phate45: 00:19:870 (1) - this 1
2014-12-09 07:51 phate45: note where it begins
2014-12-09 07:51 Xelasto: oh ok
2014-12-09 07:51 phate45: and 1 should start at 00:19:324
2014-12-09 07:52 Xelasto: You mean 4?
2014-12-09 07:52 Xelasto: Cause at 324 I have 4
2014-12-09 07:52 phate45: 4 00:18:960
2014-12-09 07:53 Xelasto: So it should one be one note?
2014-12-09 07:53 phate45: 00:23:870 (1,1) - this feels too fast
2014-12-09 07:53 phate45: no, just a longer slider
2014-12-09 07:53 Xelasto: Oh sorry I meant 4 should be 2 or 1 note?
2014-12-09 07:54 phate45: one note
2014-12-09 07:54 phate45: just listen to the vocal
2014-12-09 07:54 Xelasto: oh ok so nothing should be at 19:324?
2014-12-09 07:54 Xelasto: oh
2014-12-09 07:55 phate45: the blue 1
2014-12-09 07:55 phate45: should start at 324
2014-12-09 07:55 phate45: and end where it currently ends
2014-12-09 07:56 phate45: 00:57:688 (2) -
2014-12-09 07:57 phate45: doesnt feel cool like it i
2014-12-09 07:57 phate45: s
2014-12-09 07:57 phate45: i suggest breaking it from one slider to note and short slider
2014-12-09 07:57 phate45: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2325860
2014-12-09 07:57 phate45: like this
2014-12-09 07:59 phate45: 01:04:051 (2,3) - this precisely follows the vocal
2014-12-09 08:00 phate45: yet 01:05:870 (4)- doesnt have a note before itself even though it's exactly the same vocal pattern
2014-12-09 08:00 Xelasto: Should I place it above or to left?
2014-12-09 08:00 Xelasto: The note
2014-12-09 08:00 phate45: maybe make it blanket shape like 3
2014-12-09 08:00 phate45: and place it above
2014-12-09 08:01 phate45: take (2,3), rotate around
2014-12-09 08:01 Xelasto: Ah so Light blue 2 and 3 should be rotate so as to not touch the other ones?
2014-12-09 08:01 phate45: 01:12:233 (4) - this feels exactly like 00:57:688
2014-12-09 08:02 phate45: what light blue
2014-12-09 08:02 phate45: where are you
2014-12-09 08:02 Xelasto: 1:04
2014-12-09 08:03 phate45: use default skin, or at least the colors from it
2014-12-09 08:03 phate45: for editing
2014-12-09 08:03 Xelasto: Im using the default osu
2014-12-09 08:03 phate45: or dont refer to the map by color if they differ
2014-12-09 08:03 Xelasto: I see lightblue ;-;
2014-12-09 08:03 phate45: cause i got the combo green here
2014-12-09 08:03 phate45: maybe you added a combo somewhere
2014-12-09 08:03 Xelasto: kk
2014-12-09 08:03 phate45: i meant, copy (2,3)
2014-12-09 08:04 phate45: rotate said copy and replace 4
2014-12-09 08:04 phate45: with (4,5)
2014-12-09 08:04 Xelasto: Wait a minute, to think of it, I set the only colors to be pink, light blue, yellow, and white
2014-12-09 08:04 phate45: here we go
2014-12-09 08:05 phate45:
2014-12-09 08:05 Xelasto: kk
2014-12-09 08:06 Xelasto: How do I send a screen shot to you
2014-12-09 08:07 phate45: shift+F12
2014-12-09 08:07 phate45: it'll make a screenshot and upload it to osu site
2014-12-09 08:07 phate45: and open it in your browser
2014-12-09 08:08 Xelasto: OK i wanted to show you if these are ok
2014-12-09 08:08 phate45: 01:16:597 (1) - replace this with two notes
2014-12-09 08:08 phate45: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2325883
2014-12-09 08:09 Xelasto: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2325882
2014-12-09 08:09 phate45: hmm
2014-12-09 08:09 phate45: not bad, but 3 bends out of grid
2014-12-09 08:09 phate45: it doesnt look cool
2014-12-09 08:10 phate45: blanket doesnt only mean in the center of the whole shape
2014-12-09 08:10 phate45: you can make blanket with only first half of (3)
2014-12-09 08:10 phate45: then make the rest straight
2014-12-09 08:10 Xelasto: Could you send a screenshot?
2014-12-09 08:10 phate45: ay
2014-12-09 08:10 phate45: sec
2014-12-09 08:13 phate45: hmm
2014-12-09 08:14 phate45: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2325893
2014-12-09 08:14 phate45: something close to this
2014-12-09 08:14 phate45: i'm no pro shaper
2014-12-09 08:14 Xelasto: ok
2014-12-09 08:14 phate45: maybe adding some points before the red point would make the curve smoother
2014-12-09 08:15 Xelasto: Also sorry but im still confused on this also
2014-12-09 08:15 phate45: but you get the general idea
2014-12-09 08:15 Xelasto: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2325891
2014-12-09 08:15 phate45: whats wrong here
2014-12-09 08:16 phate45: just in case, you are in the US, right
2014-12-09 08:16 phate45: and it's like 11pm
2014-12-09 08:16 phate45: right
2014-12-09 08:16 Xelasto: yeah
2014-12-09 08:16 phate45: so, it's night
2014-12-09 08:16 phate45: why do you have such bright colors
2014-12-09 08:16 phate45: do you hate your eyes
2014-12-09 08:16 Xelasto: LOL
2014-12-09 08:16 Xelasto: IDK i set it to those
2014-12-09 08:17 Xelasto: But you only see the defaults
2014-12-09 08:17 Xelasto: its weir
2014-12-09 08:17 Xelasto: weird*
2014-12-09 08:17 phate45: make it a couple shades darker, i'd say
2014-12-09 08:17 phate45: why did you change timing?
2014-12-09 08:17 phate45: this section was ok
2014-12-09 08:18 phate45: just (4) needed to be spaced evenly between 3 and 1
2014-12-09 08:18 Xelasto: Which one?
2014-12-09 08:18 phate45: 00:18:960 (4) -
2014-12-09 08:18 Xelasto: OH
2014-12-09 08:18 Xelasto: You said to make it a note
2014-12-09 08:19 phate45: that was earlier
2014-12-09 08:19 phate45: no
2014-12-09 08:19 phate45: well
2014-12-09 08:20 Xelasto: Lol ok well at least thats fixed
2014-12-09 08:20 Xelasto: BTW you said at 23:870 it feels rushed
2014-12-09 08:20 phate45: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2325903
2014-12-09 08:20 phate45: i meant this
2014-12-09 08:21 phate45: yes, just start the spinner at :870 and remove the note
2014-12-09 08:22 phate45: 01:21:506 (3) - either make this longer or just a note, doesn't feel good with the vocals
2014-12-09 08:23 phate45: ^ 01:23:324 (2) - the same vocal pattern repeats here, but the map doesn't reflect that at all
2014-12-09 08:23 Xelasto: Woah theres nothing wrong before that?
2014-12-09 08:23 phate45: scroll up a little
2014-12-09 08:24 phate45: i'm just continuing where i left off before you popped in your screenshot
2014-12-09 08:25 phate45: 01:25:870 (1) - 01:29:142 (2) -- this whole section needs better spacing to reflect the rhythm
2014-12-09 08:25 Xelasto: kk
2014-12-09 08:26 Xelasto: They should be farther apart?
2014-12-09 08:26 phate45: 01:31:688 (1,2,3) - this can be spaced more, stretch this across the screen, it's really slow
2014-12-09 08:26 phate45: now you are reffering to the 1:25?
2014-12-09 08:26 Xelasto: OH
2014-12-09 08:26 phate45: the rhythm there is note-slider-pause-note
2014-12-09 08:27 Xelasto: Yes I meant 1:25
2014-12-09 08:27 phate45: in the map the slider directly connects to the next note
2014-12-09 08:27 phate45: so that feels a little off
2014-12-09 08:27 phate45: did you take a look at 01:16
2014-12-09 08:28 phate45: and 0:57, 01:04/05 and 01:12?
2014-12-09 08:28 Xelasto: Btw with 1:23 what should I do there? Just do the same note patern?
2014-12-09 08:28 phate45: change the repeat slider into something else
2014-12-09 08:29 phate45: to allow you to add a note/slider after it without it being too fast
2014-12-09 08:29 phate45: the same thing as (3) in the previous combo
2014-12-09 08:29 phate45: 01:43:688 (3,1) - this is a cool jump, me like
2014-12-09 08:30 phate45: 02:15:688 (3,1) - feels fast
2014-12-09 08:31 Xelasto: So once again I should space between the spinner and slider
2014-12-09 08:32 Xelasto: For 2:15?
2014-12-09 08:32 phate45: make 02:15:597 (3) - a note
2014-12-09 08:32 phate45: and start the spinner at 02:16:142
2014-12-09 08:32 phate45: 02:24:051 (1) - place this a bit higher
2014-12-09 08:34 phate45: did you take a look at the times i mentioned a bit earlier?
2014-12-09 08:34 phate45: before your 1:23 question
2014-12-09 08:35 Xelasto: Yeah I fixed that
2014-12-09 08:36 phate45: 03:23:688 (3) - feels too close (same distance as (1) before it, but different timing)
2014-12-09 08:36 phate45: 03:26:597 (3) - ^ same thing
2014-12-09 08:36 Xelasto: This is what I did at 1:23 btw
2014-12-09 08:36 Xelasto: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2325919
2014-12-09 08:36 phate45: 03:36:415 (2) - overlap
2014-12-09 08:37 phate45: what did you do before it, with the short slider (3)
2014-12-09 08:38 phate45: 03:38:960 (1,2) - spacing spacing
2014-12-09 08:38 phate45: 03:41:870 (1,2,3) - ^
2014-12-09 08:38 phate45: 03:48:051 (1,2) - ^
2014-12-09 08:38 phate45: 03:50:597 (1,2) - ^
2014-12-09 08:39 Xelasto: There was never a short slider, do you want me to add one (1:23)
2014-12-09 08:39 Xelasto: LOl
2014-12-09 08:39 phate45: no, there was one, before the light blue combo
2014-12-09 08:39 phate45: in the previous combo
2014-12-09 08:39 phate45: 03:54:597 (2,3) - spacing
2014-12-09 08:40 phate45: this
2014-12-09 08:40 phate45: whole section
2014-12-09 08:40 phate45: needs spacing
2014-12-09 08:40 phate45: i'll just stop linking, you go over this and space things properly
2014-12-09 08:40 Xelasto: Oh you said to get rid of the slider at 1:23 and make it a note or make it longer
2014-12-09 08:40 Xelasto: BTW I should space them APART?
2014-12-09 08:40 Xelasto: Right?
2014-12-09 08:41 phate45: that was 1:21:506
2014-12-09 08:41 phate45: the combo before that
2014-12-09 08:41 phate45: you combined my two sentences together
2014-12-09 08:41 phate45: scroll up and read that part again
2014-12-09 08:43 Xelasto: It says "Either make this longer or just a note, it doesnt fell good with the vocals*
2014-12-09 08:43 phate45: and yes, all of the spacing is that the notes are too close together
2014-12-09 08:43 phate45: yes
2014-12-09 08:43 phate45: and then theres the other one, remove the repeat slider and change it around
2014-12-09 08:43 phate45: which you already did
2014-12-09 08:44 phate45: aand thats about it for the easy diff
2014-12-09 08:44 phate45: except the new combos at the end, does not feel necessary
2014-12-09 08:44 phate45: unless you just want to show off a color combination
2014-12-09 08:44 phate45: let me know when you go through all the changes up to the last time posted
2014-12-09 08:44 Xelasto: Thats originally what I wanted to do
2014-12-09 08:44 Xelasto: kk
2014-12-09 08:45 Xelasto: I feel like the normal and hard will be TRAIN WRECKS of maps
2014-12-09 08:45 phate45:
2014-12-09 08:45 phate45: we'll see
2014-12-09 08:45 Xelasto: Especially hard since I added "invisible notes"
2014-12-09 08:45 Xelasto: Well
2014-12-09 08:45 Xelasto: Its hard to explain
2014-12-09 08:45 Xelasto: But if you play it you will know what I mean
2014-12-09 08:45 phate45: we'll get to it
2014-12-09 08:46 Xelasto: kk I'll correct the notes
2014-12-09 08:56 Xelasto: Ok It should be all fixed
2014-12-09 08:56 Xelasto: I'll update it now
2014-12-09 08:56 phate45: wait
2014-12-09 08:56 phate45: let's do all diffs
2014-12-09 08:56 Xelasto: Oh ok
2014-12-09 08:56 Xelasto: Also btw with normal
2014-12-09 08:56 phate45: normal time
2014-12-09 08:57 Xelasto: I really think I should slow it down near the end
2014-12-09 08:57 phate45: wanna spec?
2014-12-09 08:57 phate45: we'll see
2014-12-09 08:57 Xelasto: MABYE its just me but I think Its too fast
2014-12-09 08:57 Xelasto: kk
2014-12-09 08:57 phate45: good so far
2014-12-09 08:57 Xelasto:
2014-12-09 08:58 phate45: that note-2sliders-note in top right miight be a bit off
2014-12-09 08:59 phate45: the blankets here were off
2014-12-09 08:59 phate45: i'll look at them too
2014-12-09 09:00 Xelasto: Now that I think of spacing, I just noticed a few problems already
2014-12-09 09:00 phate45: timing is offf
2014-12-09 09:01 phate45: that sliderbreak is also timing
2014-12-09 09:01 Xelasto: Sorry I proofread everything EXCEPT spacing XD
2014-12-09 09:03 Xelasto: So I'm guessing there is some major problems with spacing once again
2014-12-09 09:03 phate45: yes
2014-12-09 09:03 phate45: i wont even point it out
2014-12-09 09:03 phate45: except if you ask
2014-12-09 09:04 phate45: you should work on that
2014-12-09 09:04 Xelasto: And a bit of timing here and there?
2014-12-09 09:04 phate45: yes
2014-12-09 09:04 phate45: and some positioning
2014-12-09 09:04 Xelasto: anything else?
2014-12-09 09:04 phate45: i'll go over in the editor and we'll see
2014-12-09 09:04 Xelasto: Positioning?
2014-12-09 09:04 Xelasto: kk
2014-12-09 09:04 phate45: 00:06:233 (2) -
2014-12-09 09:04 phate45: why is this in here
2014-12-09 09:04 phate45: you follow vocals everywhere
2014-12-09 09:05 phate45: there are no vocals on this spot
2014-12-09 09:05 Xelasto: Should I replace it with a note?
2014-12-09 09:05 phate45: leave it blank
2014-12-09 09:06 phate45: 00:13:142 (1,2,3) -
2014-12-09 09:06 phate45: remove 3, make 2 end at 00:14:233
2014-12-09 09:06 phate45: an S-curve to connect 1 and (the new) 3 would look good here
2014-12-09 09:07 phate45: except made from only one slider
2014-12-09 09:07 Xelasto: How can you make an S
2014-12-09 09:07 Xelasto: From such a small slider?
2014-12-09 09:07 phate45: if you make it longer, so it ends at the time i specified
2014-12-09 09:08 phate45: there'll be plenty of space
2014-12-09 09:08 phate45: of course, it should start where it starts now
2014-12-09 09:08 phate45: 00:17:870 (1) - this is completely off
2014-12-09 09:09 Xelasto: Remove?
2014-12-09 09:09 phate45: remove (2) here, move (1) to start at 00:18:233 and add repeat
2014-12-09 09:09 phate45: ahh, the links are so broken
2014-12-09 09:10 phate45: o well
2014-12-09 09:10 phate45: moving on
2014-12-09 09:10 phate45: also reposition the (1) to connect to (2) better
2014-12-09 09:10 phate45: 00:21:142 (1,2,3,4) - 1,2,3 needs repositioning
2014-12-09 09:11 Xelasto: WOAH
2014-12-09 09:11 Xelasto: I just noticed
2014-12-09 09:11 Xelasto: XD
2014-12-09 09:11 phate45:
2014-12-09 09:12 Xelasto: BTW thanks so much for taking time to help me
2014-12-09 09:12 Xelasto: I really appreciate it ^.^
2014-12-09 09:12 phate45: 00:44:415 (2) - move the end point to better fit with 3 as a blanket
2014-12-09 09:12 phate45: maybe make it curved
2014-12-09 09:13 phate45: yes, i like to help new mappers :
2014-12-09 09:13 phate45:
2014-12-09 09:13 Xelasto: Blankets dont HAVE to be wrapped around tight right?
2014-12-09 09:13 phate45: 00:51:688 (2) - no vocals here, this feels placed to fill space
2014-12-09 09:14 phate45: yes, they have to be centered
2014-12-09 09:14 phate45: no need to center it 1px away
2014-12-09 09:14 Xelasto: Haha I will admit
2014-12-09 09:14 Xelasto: Some notes I added in as filler
2014-12-09 09:14 Xelasto: Dont ask
2014-12-09 09:14 phate45: i'm not asking
2014-12-09 09:14 phate45: just pointing out
2014-12-09 09:14 Xelasto: lol
2014-12-09 09:15 Xelasto: So should I just delete it and do nothing else?
2014-12-09 09:15 phate45: 00:52:779 (3,4) - replace 4 here with two notes
2014-12-09 09:15 phate45: maybe
2014-12-09 09:15 phate45: you decide what to do, i'm just offering advice
2014-12-09 09:16 phate45: 00:57:142 (1) - remove repeat, add note at 00:58:233
2014-12-09 09:17 phate45: 00:58:960 (3,4,5) - feels unnecessary
2014-12-09 09:17 phate45: 01:11:688 (1,2) - same as 0:57
2014-12-09 09:18 phate45: 01:14:051 (3) - suddenly point out drums? why?
2014-12-09 09:18 phate45: 01:14:597 (1,2,3) - nice pattern
2014-12-09 09:18 phate45: 01:20:415 (5,6) - same as 0:57
2014-12-09 09:19 phate45: 01:27:324 (1,2) - 2 is slow note, dont hide under slider end
2014-12-09 09:19 phate45: make a jump maybe, move it to the left
2014-12-09 09:20 phate45: 01:33:688 (2,3) - not a nice blanket, but 3 by itself is too high
2014-12-09 09:20 phate45: make 3 straight and move it down a bit
2014-12-09 09:20 phate45: 01:36:597 (1) - this is good timing to show off drums
2014-12-09 09:21 phate45: unlike 1:14 where it feels too cramped
2014-12-09 09:21 phate45: there is a clear jump between 1 and 2 01:52:051 (1,2) -
2014-12-09 09:21 phate45: yet they are so close together
2014-12-09 09:22 phate45: dont always blanket because you feel like blanketing
2014-12-09 09:22 phate45: 01:59:870 (2) - feels super randomly placed
2014-12-09 09:23 phate45: curve (1) before it and make it blanket
2014-12-09 09:23 phate45: that way it'll be closer to the slider as well
2014-12-09 09:23 phate45: i'll wait until you catch up
2014-12-09 09:26 Xelasto: kk
2014-12-09 09:26 Xelasto: X
2014-12-09 09:26 Xelasto: XD
2014-12-09 09:27 phate45: if you have any questions, fire away
2014-12-09 09:27 Xelasto: LOL
2014-12-09 09:28 Xelasto: 1:59 wasnt supposed to be there
2014-12-09 09:28 phate45: but it fits the song
2014-12-09 09:28 phate45: just the place is bad
2014-12-09 09:28 phate45:
2014-12-09 09:29 Xelasto: Oh
2014-12-09 09:30 Xelasto: Ok
2014-12-09 09:30 Xelasto: I caught up
2014-12-09 09:30 phate45: let's move on then
2014-12-09 09:31 phate45: o wonder
2014-12-09 09:31 phate45: did you place the break here for the sake of break
2014-12-09 09:31 phate45: cause the vocals are right there
2014-12-09 09:31 phate45: there'd better not be a break here in the hard
2014-12-09 09:31 Xelasto: I placed it there cause I thought that they would be tired by then
2014-12-09 09:31 Xelasto: LOL
2014-12-09 09:31 phate45: it's fine to think about rest in easy and normal
2014-12-09 09:32 phate45: but people who play hard should expect a hard map
2014-12-09 09:32 phate45: unless it really fits (like the singer takes a break, or there's vocal-only solo)
2014-12-09 09:32 phate45: dont make unnecessary breaks in hard and insane
2014-12-09 09:32 Xelasto: kk
2014-12-09 09:33 phate45: 02:14:233 (1,2,3) - this is a nice pattern
2014-12-09 09:33 phate45: but dont make it any harder than this
2014-12-09 09:33 phate45: in normal diff
2014-12-09 09:34 phate45: 02:23:688 (2,3) - this is just like 1:14
2014-12-09 09:34 Xelasto: Yeah thats what I thought
2014-12-09 09:34 phate45:
2014-12-09 09:34 phate45: 02:30:233 (1,2) - i don't like this
2014-12-09 09:34 phate45: the vocals go differently
2014-12-09 09:35 phate45: remove the repeat from 1 and add some notes
2014-12-09 09:35 phate45: 02:34:597 (1) - this is drums again
2014-12-09 09:35 phate45: suddenly
2014-12-09 09:35 Xelasto: BTW
2014-12-09 09:35 Xelasto: With 2:30 What do you mean they go differently?
2014-12-09 09:36 phate45: i mean that the repeat does not fit with the vocals
2014-12-09 09:36 phate45: there's two words
2014-12-09 09:36 phate45: but the repeat is like one word
2014-12-09 09:36 phate45: it needs two notes
2014-12-09 09:37 phate45: 02:40:415 (2,3,4,5) - the (5) is at the start of another sentence
2014-12-09 09:37 phate45: the combo is wrong heere
2014-12-09 09:37 Xelasto: Could you show a quick screenshot btw
2014-12-09 09:38 Xelasto: Of 2:30
2014-12-09 09:38 phate45: sec
2014-12-09 09:39 phate45: ay
2014-12-09 09:39 phate45: not two notes
2014-12-09 09:39 phate45: one is enough
2014-12-09 09:39 phate45: 02:31:324 (2)
2014-12-09 09:39 Xelasto: k
2014-12-09 09:39 phate45: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2326014
2014-12-09 09:42 Xelasto: Btw at 2:41 I did the combo thing to allow for recovery
2014-12-09 09:42 phate45: yea
2014-12-09 09:42 phate45: but it's off
2014-12-09 09:42 phate45: the (5) should be (1)
2014-12-09 09:42 phate45: and a slider
2014-12-09 09:42 phate45: and all the subsequent sliders need to be moved back
2014-12-09 09:43 phate45: and the last one needs to be removed in order for 02:43:506 (1) - to fit
2014-12-09 09:43 phate45: since that is all right
2014-12-09 09:43 Xelasto: So your saying that 5 should be the start of the first slider
2014-12-09 09:43 Xelasto: and all the sliders should be moved back to fit?
2014-12-09 09:44 phate45: yes
2014-12-09 09:44 phate45: and the last before :506 needs to be removed
2014-12-09 09:44 phate45: because it wont fit
2014-12-09 09:45 phate45: 02:46:415 (1) - tis' good
2014-12-09 09:45 phate45: 02:57:506 (1,1) - should be blanket
2014-12-09 09:46 phate45: 03:22:233 (1) - you can map the break before this in the insane
2014-12-09 09:46 phate45: to increase the difficulty a little bit more
2014-12-09 09:47 Xelasto: 2:46 But arent they timed far apart?
2014-12-09 09:47 Xelasto: Blanketing them would make them too close right?
2014-12-09 09:47 phate45: i said 2:46 is good
2014-12-09 09:47 phate45: 2:57 is bad
2014-12-09 09:48 Xelasto: SorryI mean 257
2014-12-09 09:48 phate45: yea
2014-12-09 09:48 phate45: lessen the curve on the second (1)
2014-12-09 09:48 phate45: so the blanket center is further away
2014-12-09 09:48 phate45: and make it look nice
2014-12-09 09:48 Xelasto: Wait
2014-12-09 09:49 phate45: in the insane if you map the instrumental part as a whole, place a break around 03:38:960 (1)-, cause it's just relax vocals
2014-12-09 09:49 Xelasto: Lessen the curve?
2014-12-09 09:49 Xelasto: So like
2014-12-09 09:49 phate45: make it bend less
2014-12-09 09:49 phate45: that way the center of the blanket will be further away
2014-12-09 09:49 Xelasto: Ik but Like how would that help
2014-12-09 09:49 phate45: it will look nicer
2014-12-09 09:49 phate45: i mean, you dont have to
2014-12-09 09:49 phate45: but this is just like off-blanket
2014-12-09 09:49 Xelasto: oh
2014-12-09 09:49 phate45: a lot of people nitpick at it
2014-12-09 09:50 phate45: if you make the first (1) end elsewhere, this wont be an issue at all
2014-12-09 09:58 phate45: are you back?
2014-12-09 09:58 Xelasto: Woah
2014-12-09 09:58 Xelasto: Lol
2014-12-09 09:58 Xelasto: I just disconnected
2014-12-09 09:58 phate45: yeah, bunch of people disconnected at once
2014-12-09 09:58 Xelasto: But I have to go to sleep now :l
2014-12-09 09:58 Xelasto: Its getting a little too late
2014-12-09 09:59 phate45: we can finish the mod tommorow if you'd like
2014-12-09 09:59 phate45: or if you come after you wake up
2014-12-09 09:59 phate45: in 7-9 hours
2014-12-09 09:59 phate45: i should still be around
2014-12-09 09:59 Xelasto: Well I have school still
2014-12-09 09:59 phate45: then tommorow at the same time?
2014-12-09 10:00 Xelasto: I mean if you will be around at like 3 PM tommorrow, sure.
2014-12-09 10:00 Xelasto: But I dont know what that is in your tim
2014-12-09 10:00 Xelasto: time*
2014-12-09 10:00 Xelasto: But, you could just post the stuff I should change in normal and (if you want) in har
2014-12-09 10:00 Xelasto: inside my maps thread
2014-12-09 10:01 Xelasto: hard*
2014-12-09 10:01 phate45: ok
2014-12-09 10:01 phate45: that i can do
2014-12-09 10:01 Xelasto: Ok, Thanks for everything ^.^ Sadly I cant give kudos 0-0
2014-12-09 10:01 phate45: i'll post this chat log as an irc mod, and do the rest normally
2014-12-09 10:01 Xelasto: Because I havent modded yet
2014-12-09 10:01 Xelasto: k
2014-12-09 10:01 Xelasto: Bye
2014-12-09 10:01 phate45: you can give me kudos for the post the
2014-12-09 10:02 phate45: then*
2014-12-09 10:02 phate45: peace
[ Normal]
- 03:31:688 (1,2,3) - These 3 sliders have the same timing, yet (2) and (3) overlap, that does not feel right. Move (3) to the left so they just about touch.
- 03:57:142 (1) - Move this one to (16, 200), no need to overlap.
- 04:08:415 (1,2,3,4) - This is an interesting placement, but can be done better, align (1) and (2) more, make (3) and (4) into curved sliders (for blanket), and maybe end (2) where (4) starts, for nicer shape.
[ Hard]
- This is gonna be a long post.
- 00:01:142 (1,2) - Just plain notes here would be enough.
- 00:04:051 (6) - New Combo here would fit with lyrics.
- 00:06:415 (2,3,4) - These are just wrong, why don't repeat the previous pattern(00:04:779 (3,4,5)-)? The vocals do so.
- 00:12:233 (7) - No need to hide under slider here, move it to the right.
- 00:13:688 (2,3) - This does not fit with the vocal at all.
- 00:21:142 (1,2,3) - These 3 fit well with the song, all the notes before them until 00:13:688 don't feell good at all. I'd like to see that section redone.
- 00:42:779 (7) - This one is plain extra.
- 00:43:506 (2) - ^ feels the same.
- 00:46:415 (6) - Making this a note would be better.
- 00:47:870 (2) - ^ same thing.
- 00:56:415 (6) - NC here fits better.
- 00:56:597 (7,8,9) - Does not fit with the vocal at all.
- 00:57:870 (3) - Feels not needed.
- 00:59:688 (1) - Also NC here.
- 01:01:506 (1) - Not needed.
- 01:02:779 (4) - Feels extra.
- 01:06:051 (5,6) - Remove (5), place (6) at 01:06:051 and start the spinner at 01:06:415, ending it at 01:08:051.
- 01:08:960 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This pattern tries it's best to look cool, but does not fit the vocal at all.
- 01:17:870 (2,4) - Ctrl-G, uniform direction here is better, you can make the switch if there's such a pattern later in the song.
- 01:27:324 (3) - Too long, end at 01:27:506 and start 01:27:870 (1)- at 01:27:597.
- 01:31:688 (4) - This is slightly hard to read, try making it a note and moving it for example to (272, 328).
- 01:48:779 (1) - The timing here is slightly misleading (at least for me).
- 02:20:415 (1,2) - Nice blankets, this and this section in general.
- 02:46:233 (1) - Remove one repeat.
- 02:58:597 (1) - ^
- 03:39:870 (6,7) - Feel extra.
- 03:56:779 (1) - All the sliders up to here, cool pattern!
- 04:08:960 (3,4) - Feel extra.
- Overall, check for pointless stacks on sliders, hiding notes under sliders, combo placement and flow. Work hard