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ClariS - Luminous -Movie MIX- [OsuMania]

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NicoHolic777
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 8:30:44 PM

Artist: ClariS
Title: Luminous -Movie MIX-
Source: 劇場版 魔法少女まどか☆マギカ 始まりの物語
Tags: Mahou Shoujo Madoka ☆ Magica Zenpen Hajimari no Monogatari Anime Puella Magi Beginnings Eternal Movie
BPM: 173
Filesize: 3056kb
Play Time: 01:39
Difficulties Available:
  1. Double Duet Extreme - 4Key (3.19 stars, 629 notes)
  2. Double Duet - 4Key (1.75 stars, 292 notes)
Download: ClariS - Luminous -Movie MIX-
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Thanks for downloading my FIRST osu!mania beatmap! Hope you guys enjoyed it!

Difficulty Changelog:
Double Duet by ME [Hitsounded]
Double Duet Challenge ==UNDER CONSTRUCTION==
Double Duet EXTREME by ME [Hitsounded]

Other Difficulties:
Duet Classic(2k) & Duet Challenge(2k)

Any feedbacks would be appreciated!
Thanks a lot!
==Tatsuya-Kun==

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schwarzvgrune
check your aimod
for ALL DIFFS, there should not be unsnapped object.
BG = not larger than 1366 x 768, fix that
kiai less than 15 sec? is this allowed?

your 4K is unrankable, NM only 1.89 star, extreme more than 4star. its more than 1.5 star gap.
either lessen the diffs of your extreme to 3 star, or add another diffs to fill in the gap

adjust your diffs and edit according the star rating guidance, call me back if you want and i'll mod your actual map after you've made adjustment.
Topic Starter
NicoHolic777

schwarzvgrune wrote:

check your aimod
for ALL DIFFS, there should not be unsnapped object.
BG = not larger than 1366 x 768, fix that
kiai less than 15 sec? is this allowed?

your 4K is unrankable, NM only 1.89 star, extreme more than 4star. its more than 1.5 star gap.
either lessen the diffs of your extreme to 3 star, or add another diffs to fill in the gap

adjust your diffs and edit according the star rating guidance, call me back if you want and i'll mod your actual map after you've made adjustment.
Okay, I've fixed it, as much as I could, ready for your mod, thanks!
Julie
From LR mod queue
[General]
I hope you know 2key is actually unrankable. You can map 1 keys to 18k, but only 4 to 8k are rankable for the moment. I don't think 1 to 3k will ever be rankable :S.

You probably want to remove all these green point
http://puu.sh/gLxQK.png
Since you don't have any custom hitsound ><...Your just making it harder for yourself XD
Look in all your difficulty you have 4 greenline unsnap 01:31:120 - 01:31:987 - 01:33:678 - and 01:37:493 -

[Normal 4k]

^ Try a better naming spread, or if you want to keep it normal, it should be 4K Normal

00:00:602 (602|2,602|0,948|3,948|1,1295|0,1295|2,1642|1,1642|3,1989|2,1989|0,2336|1,2336|3,2509|0,2509|2) - to repetitive. Pitch should be something like that http://puu.sh/gLx9C.jpg

00:21:411 (21411|0) - delete, probably no 4 notes there, and since is LN, is harder then your hard difficulty lolol

00:23:838 (23838|3,23838|2,24012|1,24012|0,24185|1,24185|3,24185|0,24185|2) - this part is WAY harder then your hard difficulty LOL

00:30:255 (30255|0,30602|1,30948|0) - maybe this? http://puu.sh/gLxsk.jpg

Seem like your normal is matching vocal and tons of jack. Probably not suggest, since is hard on normal. Mostly when you have tons

[Double Duet Extreme]

I see a lots of 4 notes for vocal which is probably not suggest ><

Also sometimes you map drum, then you don't map drum. Try to keep it consistent please.

00:02:856 (2856|0,2856|2,2856|3,2856|1) - why end LN here? feel random xD

00:04:763 - to 00:09:619 - try some different pattern, feel to repetitive, + the drum isn't always 1/4. There is a bunch of instrument your not mapping

00:09:966 (9966|0,9966|2,10139|2,10139|0) - Hmm why jack? Not the same pitch XD

00:15:862 - add one more note here, should have more impact, also because you did it in normal XD

00:17:769 - you map this sound, while you don't here 00:17:249 - and 00:16:902 - example ><. Try keep consistent.

00:29:734 (29734|2) - delete, don't need 4 notes ><

00:36:151 (36151|0,36151|1,36324|0,36324|1,36497|0,36497|1) - see this? all different sound yet same pattern ><

00:36:671 (36671|0) - random end, end it here 00:37:018 - xD

00:37:191 - 2 notes here but only one here 00:37:538 - ?

00:39:445 (39445|3,39619|3,39792|3,39966|3) - different pitch x.x, shouldn't be all on same column. I hear something like that http://puu.sh/gLuFe.jpg

00:42:220 - to 00:42:740 - you can hear the same thing as above mod ^

00:42:914 (42914|3,42914|0,42914|2,42914|1,43260|2,43260|3,43260|1,43434|0) - Usually, your matching voice, but here...your not mapping for voice or instrument, even your normal have more note here and is harder lolol . Here a suggestion from what I hear from the piano : http://puu.sh/gLuW8.jpg

00:43:954 (43954|0,43954|3) - You added 2 note here probably was because of the drum, but here 00:44:648 - only 1 note, same drum sound + have piano with it O.O. Shouldn't have less notes<

00:44:995 (44995|3) - random stop, probably matching voice, but these kind of thing usually isn't fun to play. This 00:44:995 (44995|0) - slider end already enough

00:46:208 (46208|0,46208|1) - Turn these to normal notes ^^

00:46:382 (46382|3) - uwahh this slider probably from instrument right? I don't see why you would map it for voice but, still shouldn't be jack with 00:47:075 (47075|3) - , because these 2 slider your matching for instrument doesn't have the same pitch. In other word, it shouldn't be in the same column

00:48:289 - add one more note? Drum impact :D

00:49:503 (49503|2) - turn it into a normal note and move it to 2 ><. Not a good part to jack

00:50:544 (50544|0,50717|1,50891|0,51064|0,51064|1) - wrong pitch, should be something like that http://puu.sh/gLvCw.jpg ><. Then feel free to add drum if you want ^^

00:52:278 (52278|0,52625|0,52971|0) - not a good repetitive pattern, since 00:52:625 (52625|0) - isn't the same drum sound as 00:52:625 (52625|0) -

00:53:145 (53145|2,53145|3) - Random end @.@

00:54:012 (54012|1,54012|3,54185|2,54185|0,54359|3,54359|1,54532|0,54532|3) - Ok this is kinda random xD. Mostly these 2 00:54:359 (54359|3,54532|3) - random jack x.x. But you did it good in normal O.o http://puu.sh/gLvQJ.png. You probably try to make something harder...but please follow the song ><

00:55:919 (55919|2,55919|3) - turn to normal note, I know your matching vocal, but that is way to small LN >< + the jack after isn't fun to play

00:56:613 (56613|2,57133|3) - stop them like 00:56:093 (56093|1,56613|0) -

00:59:561 (59561|0,59561|1,59561|2,59648|3,59734|0,59821|3,59908|0,59995|3,60081|0,60168|3) - Wrong rhythm XD. Probably a bit tricky but this should be 1/6 divisor, and here suggestion of pattern following the pitch >< http://puu.sh/gLw8K.jpg

01:08:578 (68578|2,68578|1,68925|1,68925|2,69099|1,69099|2,69445|1,69445|2) - Wow wow wow all same collumn, not fun to play and don'T follow the song ><

01:10:139 (70139|3,70312|3,70486|3) - All different instrument, yet on the same collumn ><

01:11:006 (71006|3,71006|0,71093|0,71093|3,71180|3,71180|0) - Ok so these jack 01:11:006 (71006|3,71006|0,71093|3,71093|0) - can be passable but to here 01:11:180 (71180|3,71180|0) - is a different drum sound

Ok nearly all the kiai is like that, don't think I'll have to repeat, or else you won't learn right?

01:33:810 (93810|0,93983|0,94156|0,94330|0,94503|0,94677|0,94850|0,95023|0,95197|0,95370|0,95544|0,95891|0) - all different piano note in the song, yet all in the same column D:

To be honnest, I feel like your forcing this difficulty to be high stars or something. This song is so beautiful, you should follow it, instead of map for stars. Try to vary your pattern, is nearly all in the same column every times ><. Probably lacking of space, but still there always something we can do about that in 4k ^^

Thanks for requesting in the queues~ Feel free to catch me in-game if you have any question or if you want me to recheck. :D
schwarzvgrune
mods

general...
umm can you actually pass your double duet extreme? your LNs style are making the map more difficult than what the star rating actually says.
and i personally define those placing as LN abuse. this is because they are not really expressing any part of the song accurately as what i would assume it should have been. however, this doesnt mean that your placing is wrong. so take that in mind when i mod your map. you can ignore them if you disagree with my mod.

ill focus on hand balancing, since you ignore pitch relevancy for your maps, so i wont mod on that

extreme.

1 2 3 4
SPOILER
00:02:856 (2856|2,2856|1,2856|0) - delete
00:04:763 (4763|3) - delete
00:02:856 (2856|3) - cut the length down to 00:04:417 -
add short notes like this http://puu.sh/gMnxR/8b52394ea6.jpg
00:05:804 (5804|1) - move to 4
00:06:844 (6844|1) - ^
00:07:451 (7451|1) - ^
and also the note that is expressign the violin, you can change them to LN as well (1/4 length) because its extreme diffs.


00:09:272 - add a note to 4
00:09:619 - add to 1
00:09:792 - http://puu.sh/gMnGV/5705ef770f.jpg

00:10:312 (10312|1,10659|2,11006|3,11353|3) - add 1 more note on each of them, you've been using 2, keep them consistent, especially if you're only following that same beat, it hasnt even changed phase yet.

00:10:312 (10312|0) - LN is wrong, should be until 00:11:526 -
00:11:526 (11526|1,11613|2) - change into LN

00:16:208 (16208|0,16555|1,17075|0) - LN abuse, what are you following? background guitar pitch? the length is wrong, please listen on 25% playback and map carefully. and if you'[re following the beat, use SN instead of LN.
00:17:596 (17596|0,17596|1) - ^
and if you're following the singer, then STRONGLY RECOMMENDED to delete those, its generally NOT RECOMMENDED to map vocal in mania.

00:18:636 (18636|0,19156|0,19850|0,20717|1,21064|0) - etc until the end, all those LN that are following the vocal, please reconsider them, they are generally not recommended to be mapped / express in mania.

remap your whole pattern, these are extremely difficult to press and not really appropriate for LN placement.
01:37:422 (97422|3,97480|3) -
01:31:122 (91122|3,91469|3) -
01:23:492 (83492|0,84879|2,85226|1,85226|2,85226|3,85226|0) -
00:41:353 (41353|0,41353|1,41700|1,41700|0) -
00:48:289 (48289|0,48636|1,48810|2,48810|3,49156|0,49156|2,49156|3,49156|1) -
00:49:677 (49677|2,50023|3,50370|3,50370|2) -
01:01:642 (61642|3,62336|1,62336|2,62682|0,62682|2,62682|1,63029|2,63029|1,63029|0) -
Topic Starter
NicoHolic777

schwarzvgrune wrote:

mods

general...
umm can you actually pass your double duet extreme? your LNs style are making the map more difficult than what the star rating actually says.
and i personally define those placing as LN abuse. this is because they are not really expressing any part of the song accurately as what i would assume it should have been. however, this doesnt mean that your placing is wrong. so take that in mind when i mod your map. you can ignore them if you disagree with my mod.

ill focus on hand balancing, since you ignore pitch relevancy for your maps, so i wont mod on that

extreme.

1 2 3 4
SPOILER
00:02:856 (2856|2,2856|1,2856|0) - delete
00:04:763 (4763|3) - delete
00:02:856 (2856|3) - cut the length down to 00:04:417 -
add short notes like this http://puu.sh/gMnxR/8b52394ea6.jpg
00:05:804 (5804|1) - move to 4
00:06:844 (6844|1) - ^
00:07:451 (7451|1) - ^
and also the note that is expressign the violin, you can change them to LN as well (1/4 length) because its extreme diffs.


00:09:272 - add a note to 4
00:09:619 - add to 1
00:09:792 - http://puu.sh/gMnGV/5705ef770f.jpg

00:10:312 (10312|1,10659|2,11006|3,11353|3) - add 1 more note on each of them, you've been using 2, keep them consistent, especially if you're only following that same beat, it hasnt even changed phase yet.
Well, I don't clearly understand this. Am I right? --> http://puu.sh/gNdHy.jpg

00:10:312 (10312|0) - LN is wrong, should be until 00:11:526 -
00:11:526 (11526|1,11613|2) - change into LN

00:16:208 (16208|0,16555|1,17075|0) - LN abuse, what are you following? background guitar pitch? the length is wrong, please listen on 25% playback and map carefully. and if you'[re following the beat, use SN instead of LN.
00:17:596 (17596|0,17596|1) - ^
and if you're following the singer, then STRONGLY RECOMMENDED to delete those, its generally NOT RECOMMENDED to map vocal in mania.
Well, I think I would keep them, because I don't think that would be a big problem. But I did change those^ 2 keys to normal ones, I guess it could help.

00:18:636 (18636|0,19156|0,19850|0,20717|1,21064|0) - etc until the end, all those LN that are following the vocal, please reconsider them, they are generally not recommended to be mapped / express in mania.

remap your whole pattern, these are extremely difficult to press and not really appropriate for LN placement.
01:37:422 (97422|3,97480|3) -
01:31:122 (91122|3,91469|3) -
01:23:492 (83492|0,84879|2,85226|1,85226|2,85226|3,85226|0) -
00:41:353 (41353|0,41353|1,41700|1,41700|0) -
00:48:289 (48289|0,48636|1,48810|2,48810|3,49156|0,49156|2,49156|3,49156|1) -
00:49:677 (49677|2,50023|3,50370|3,50370|2) -
01:01:642 (61642|3,62336|1,62336|2,62682|0,62682|2,62682|1,63029|2,63029|1,63029|0) -
Fixed most of the issues. Well I decided to keep the vocals. But thanks for your kindful mod!
Verniy_Chan

Hi Kaname-chan >.<)/
Mod from ☆ Moe Hunter Mania Queue ☆

General : ( )
Mapset : ( ? ) think again about your diff name..!
Metadata : ( X ) in tag : delete claris mahou shoujo madoka magica is already in title and source
Timing : ( ) maybe ok :v
Audio : ( ) it will be nice if you use another sample HS which is suitable
Background : ( X ) 1366 x 736 -> 1366 x 768

4K = |1|2|3|4|


(Focus : Note Presence , Hand/Row Balance, Aesthetics/Consistency Pattern)


Double Duet
00:04:763 (4763|0) LN should end here 00:07:365
00:06:151 add note?
00:07:538 (7538|1) this LN end here 00:09:792
00:10:312 (10312|2) end here 00:13:087
00:12:740 (12740|3) move to 2
00:48:463 (48463|2,48463|3,48810|3,48810|2) move to left
00:54:706 (54706|3) move to 1 or 2
00:56:093 (56093|1) move to 4
01:25:226 (85226|2) move to 4
01:26:266 (86266|3) move to 1
01:31:815 (91815|3) move to 1
01:31:989 (91989|3) move to 2
seem you only focus Vocal than Sound Music orz
Double Extreme
00:08:752 add note drum hit
00:09:445 add note
00:37:018 ^
00:39:792 ^
00:41:180 ^
00:42:567 ^
00:55:746 ^
01:06:151 ^
01:24:706 ^
01:31:642 ^
simmiliar like other diff~
Nice Song
Good Luck -nya~ (づ。◕‿‿◕。)づ
Topic Starter
NicoHolic777

Verniy_Chan wrote:


Hi Kaname-chan >.<)/
Mod from ☆ Moe Hunter Mania Queue ☆

General : ( )
Mapset : ( ? ) think again about your diff name..!
Well, it was the first thing that came out of my mind, and I still don't know what to change. So, I guess I should keep them.
Metadata : ( X ) in tag : delete claris mahou shoujo madoka magica is already in title and source
Timing : ( ) maybe ok :v
Audio : ( ) it will be nice if you use another sample HS which is suitable
I think I'm comfortable with this one.
Background : ( X ) 1366 x 736 -> 1366 x 768

4K = |1|2|3|4|


(Focus : Note Presence , Hand/Row Balance, Aesthetics/Consistency Pattern)


Double Duet
00:04:763 (4763|0) LN should end here 00:07:365
00:06:151 add note?
00:07:538 (7538|1) this LN end here 00:09:792
00:10:312 (10312|2) end here 00:13:087
00:12:740 (12740|3) move to 2
00:48:463 (48463|2,48463|3,48810|3,48810|2) move to left
00:54:706 (54706|3) move to 1 or 2
00:56:093 (56093|1) move to 4
01:25:226 (85226|2) move to 4
01:26:266 (86266|3) move to 1
01:31:815 (91815|3) move to 1
01:31:989 (91989|3) move to 2
seem you only focus Vocal than Sound Music orz
FIXED!
Double Extreme
00:08:752 add note drum hit
00:09:445 add note
00:37:018 ^
00:39:792 ^
00:41:180 ^
00:42:567 ^
00:55:746 ^
01:06:151 ^
01:24:706 ^
01:31:642 ^
simmiliar like other diff~
I've fixed them, and then the map becames harder, yes!
Nice Song
Good Luck -nya~ (づ。◕‿‿◕。)づ
Thanks for your kindful mod! :)
Godoka Bless You!
Muu-chan
Hi tatsu kun^^

all of them here just suggestion, you could reject it if unnecessary for you.
|1|2|3|4|

sorry for my bad english^^
General
* I suggest to change the source into 劇場版 魔法少女まどか☆マギカ 始まりの物語 based on MAL and move Mahou Shoujo Madoka ☆ Magica(Zenpen):Hajimari no Monogatari to tags.
* I suggest change HP and OD to 7 for 'Double Duet' difficulty.
* ^ to 8 for 'Double Duet Extreme' difficulty.
* The most important thing that mania mapper should know about mapping is osu!mania map different with osu!std map. Of course it is different, what i mean here is osu!std mostly following the vocal sound, if osu!mania map is mostly follows the instrument from the song. That is the main difference between them. Following vocal is okay, but remember that mania map is prefer for instrument. So i suggest to re-pattern some part :3
Double Duet
* 00:00:602 ~ 00:02:509 - i suggest to single them, since it just has a piano note. Imo double is much better for chord :3
* 00:02:856 - i suggest to change on of them to note. So it would be more space to make an improvement for the next pattern^^ also stop the LN on 00:04:417 - the pitch is changing there
* 00:04:417 - i suggest to add a note here, there's a drum beat.
* 00:04:590 - ^
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2934227 :D

* 00:05:804 (5804|1,6151|1,6497|1) - try to avoid this kind of pattern (one line) in normal diff :3
* 00:05:977 - i suggest to add a note here, i hear a kick.
* 00:06:844 - ^
* 00:07:018 - ^
* 00:07:365 - ^
it might be a little bit hard but it fit to the BG music instrument ^^ https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2934254

* 00:07:538 ~ 00:15:515 - try to follow one or two instrument as your pattern. Maybe an organ and drum. I hear in those timing still has a beat that don't have a note :3

* 00:15:862 ~ end - i would edit (continue) this after tatsu kun re-pattern some notes to follow the instrument, because tbh it is more like a std mapset ><"

anyway take my star and good luck^^ i wuv claris :D
Topic Starter
NicoHolic777
NO MORE FURTHER MODS ACCEPTED UNTIL I REPLY TO Muu-chan's POST.
Everyone has told me to remove/change vocals, so there would be a big re-construction of my maps, including changing the name of difficulties.
And also I will add 1 more difficulty
So no M4Ms, no mod posts here until I remove this and reply to Muu-chan's post.
Topic Starter
NicoHolic777
Still active! Got some real-life problems.
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