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Mohican Sandbag - U.N.Owen is dead [Taiko]

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DakeDekaane
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Summoned here.
Surprised this isn't a Nuclear Fusion.

I really enjoyed the map as it is now, I really like when the maps are consistent like this one.

I can see an unused .osb file.

01:37:887 (2) - Shouldn't this be just kd k? kddk pattern opaques in some way the beat in 01:37:799 - , which corresponds to the rhythm you're following for the muic (also for consistency with 01:32:064 (1,1,1) - ). Still plays good, so it's up to you to decide.
03:10:976 (2) - This note should be removed, I think you followed vocals for this part, so this one feels a bit odd.
03:28:623 (2) - I may be wrong, but this note feels a bit more like a filler, considering you've mapped the main melody for the previous pattern and the next.
04:42:740 (2) - I think this should be a kat, this note has a high tone, like the ones where you put kats.
05:04:976 (1,1) - This SV change is just adorable www
05:54:385 - You may want to hide this barline, at first sight I thought it was unsnapped stuff untill I saw it on detail.

Amazing map as always, you could poke me whenever you feel ready.
Stefan
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DakeDekaane wrote:

Surprised this isn't a Nuclear Fusion.
Or TNT.
OnosakiHito
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Thanks for your mod Dake! Applied everything beside the "filler note", since it was intentional to follow a stricter don-beat, filled with some kats.
Short but helpful mod~
DakeDekaane
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About the red line you added to omit the barline, it should be n 05:54:384 - and not in 05:54:032 - so the metronome stays correct.
OnosakiHito
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Changed it.
Nwolf
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Nwolf
woof

01:17:682 - Somehow expected SV increase up to 01:18:740 - this note, somehow seemed like an obvious spot for this.
01:32:946 (2,3,4) - delete since this lacks "o-o-o-o-o-o-wen"
03:36:917 (3) - kills rhythm if you don't have a kat here because before it's kats on all red ticks and then suddenly not. Might affect the kat on the end of 5-plet
03:39:740 (3) - ^
03:42:564 (3) - ^
04:07:093 - Change to 1.1 SV and 04:08:505 - 1.0. Every kat reduces SV by 0.01 or 0.02 #softSVchangeforthewinandstuff
04:08:505 (1) - BIG DON
04:21:211 (1,1,2,1) - dk kd overmap rhythm so overused ;_; Change to ------- something else
04:24:034 (1,1,2,1) - ^
04:31:799 - Why is it 0.5 tho, the other slow section is 0.75
05:04:976 - You know, this overlaps the next note a bit too much. Change SV to 1.5
05:54:394 - nu ;w;
06:59:335 - nuuuuuuuuuu ;w;
meii18
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Nwolf wrote:

nu ;w;
You said ''no'' in romanian I mean my language :D
OnosakiHito
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OnosakiHito

Nwolf wrote:

woof

01:17:682 - Somehow expected SV increase up to 01:18:740 - this note, somehow seemed like an obvious spot for this. Tried it, but the way it looks when the notes slide in isn't really nice and consistent.
01:32:946 (2,3,4) - delete since this lacks "o-o-o-o-o-o-wen" oh, true. Not a problem, but fits better for consistency.
03:36:917 (3) - kills rhythm if you don't have a kat here because before it's kats on all red ticks and then suddenly not. Might affect the kat on the end of 5-plet
03:39:740 (3) - ^
03:42:564 (3) - ^ I see what you mean, but this was intentional due to that longer tone in the background of the song.
04:07:093 - Change to 1.1 SV and 04:08:505 - 1.0. Every kat reduces SV by 0.01 or 0.02 #softSVchangeforthewinandstuff I tried this as well, but at the end it feels like current way represents the song in a good way already. It's like small cut, and that suddeny Sv changes seems to fit pretty well here.
04:08:505 (1) - BIG DON Oh, I see why. Changed.
04:21:211 (1,1,2,1) - dk kd overmap rhythm so overused ;_; Change to ------- something else
04:24:034 (1,1,2,1) - ^ Should be fine. Used it for varriety; pattern should fit here into this pattern set if you ask me.
04:31:799 - Why is it 0.5 tho, the other slow section is 0.75 this one is quiter than the previous one. much quiter.
05:04:976 - You know, this overlaps the next note a bit too much. Change SV to 1.5 Well okay, makes it just safer I guess.
05:54:394 - nu ;w;
06:59:335 - nuuuuuuuuuu ;w; you know that I gonna keep them. lol In my opinion fits well here, seeing no problem.
Looks redish, but actually there were good suggestions I had not in mind before! Just too bad that some don't work as expected.
Thanks Nwolf!
Nwolf
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/me dead
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DakeDekaane
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RIP adorable SV change :(
1.5x doesn't give the same "wheeee" feeling as 2.0x, imo.
But if you want to play safer, I won't go against this.

(ノ･ω･)ノ #2
PatZar
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B U R N I N G ~

edit :
We have to un-ticked widesupport , added vibration of womb on tags.

also "maximum qualified maps (8) per day is fulled now" will manage this tomorrow!
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qoot8123
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Sadly that the maximum qualified maps (8) per day is fulled now :(
TicClick
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TicClick
then remove flame icon and ask one of previous nominators to edit their post to reset it to bubble again
OnosakiHito
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Were surprised that Genocide checked it (rip Love). I'm sure Dake or Nwolf would repare the bubble. But before that, I have a question:

What genre does this song belong to?
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3666681

Edit: Seems like hardstyle is the most appropriated one as Gennocide suggested before (asked also TicClick and some other guys). Gave him kudosu since I forgot some other Tags before as well.
Nwolf
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done


also qualify limit is 9 pls ;w;
Love
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Love


Already claimed this when I modded.
Zetera
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Congrats!
OnosakiHito
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OnosakiHito
wowowow, thanks a bunch!
After more than 1 year I got a map ranked again. lol
Hanjamon
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Hanjamon
gratz Ono :3
DaxMasterix
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Congratz so much Ono!
I remember this :')
Feerum
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Grats! :)
Yuzeyun
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Yuzeyun
flammekueche-kun again
PatZar
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Damn son i was ninja gratz also
Okoratu
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OMG MOHICAN SANDBAG
thank you. <3
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TKS
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according to the official website as below.
http://junktrax.com/ms/


Romanised Artist should be changed to Mohicansandbag
Mohican Sandbag, MOHICANSANDBAG and MOHICAN SANDBAG as well. choose one of them.
Title must be changed to U.N.オーエン・イズ・デッド
also i prefer to invert 東方Project and Touhou to get better consistency with existing ranked maps. well, up to you.

and there are unnecessary tags. you could remove them what i highlighted.
touhou flandre scarlet u.n. owen(duplicated with the Romanised Title.) was her mohican sandbag(doesn't matter.) vibration of womb hardstyle

you guys could know easily that it's an incorrect metadata if googled that Tetokansen Dobakku just once. but why didn't it before bubble and rank... x_x
anyway, goodluck with ranking.
wasonz
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rekt
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get ready for deflamation ;w;
OnosakiHito
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OnosakiHito

TKS wrote:

according to the official website as below.
http://junktrax.com/ms/


Romanised Artist should be changed to Mohicansandbag
Mohican Sandbag, MOHICANSANDBAG and MOHICAN SANDBAG as well. choose one of them.
Title must be changed to U.N.オーエン・イズ・デッド
also i prefer to invert 東方Project and Touhou to get better consistency with existing ranked maps. well, up to you.

and there are unnecessary tags. you could remove them what i highlighted.
touhou flandre scarlet u.n. owen(duplicated with the Romanised Title.) was her mohican sandbag(doesn't matter.) vibration of womb hardstyle

you guys could know easily that it's an incorrect metadata if googled that Tetokansen Dobakku just once. but why didn't it before bubble and rank... x_x
anyway, goodluck with ranking.

Actually I checked the tags before and added it into google, and on my end it only showed my beatmap. Originally I found this song on youtube which is using the same "Artist" or rather group here? Since I thought it is a group, I've put "Mohican Sandbag" into TAGs.

About the Source I don't like it either to be honest. Touhou seems to be more consistent than 東方Project, but somewhere, Lust had a good point about saying that ZUN is actually calling it "東方Project" instead of "東方" or "Touhou".

About U.N.オーエン・イズ・デッド I'm not sure. I guess you are right. Couldn't know that since I'm after all not japanese. :/
Waiting for QATs opinions, if it should be now changed or can be added as online tags. But probably would be needed to be changed? And about the other tags, I think it should be fine. Normaly the song is called "U.N. owen was her", so having only "was her" in the tags might be even more inconsistent.


Well, I'm not a pro about japanese artist / source stuff, so let's wait for someone who knows more about it. Thanks a lot TKS!
Okoratu
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well currently the unicode arfist reads as Mohican Sandbag
and the romanised as tetokansen dobakku which makes no sense in itself there's no way to read these katakana that way

if it at least was something that reads as tetokansen dobakku then I would probably understand it and accept it as reasonable given a reasonable explanation. but as tks said there's a katakana ver of the title on their website so that should be used lol
TKS
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I am 100% sure Tetokansen Dobakku is wrong. if im a QAT, will disqualification without ask other QATs.
テトカンセンドバック(Tetokansen Dobakku) vs モヒカンサンドバッグ(Mohikan Sandobaggu/Mohican Sandbag).
these Katakana look a bit alike indeed. but テトカンセンドバック is so weird japanese and is not exist actually.
maybe you need this : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... na.svg.png

also you shouldn't change the tag by online tags system while the map is in Qualified. please assure us the quality of the map.



OnosakiHito wrote:

Well, I'm not a pro about japanese artist / source stuff
i can understand that but if you say so why didn't ask other Japanese BN/staff?
Okoratu
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basing metadata off youtube videos is generally not the best idea when you need to have official sources backing it up lol

that burn tks lmao
OnosakiHito
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Ooooh, now I see what's going on. I misunderstood your reason before.
Well as I said, I asked other QATs (japanese one). Which is why I wait right now.
Don't want(and can''t, since it is my map) to touch stuff I'm not certain about. Better leave the pros doing it.

well he burns since he thought I want to ignore it. But was just misunderstanding from my side lol
alacat
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Disqualify due to the wrong metadata

TKS wrote:

according to the official website as below.
http://junktrax.com/ms/


Romanised Artist should be changed to Mohicansandbag
Mohican Sandbag, MOHICANSANDBAG and MOHICAN SANDBAG as well. choose one of them.
Title must be changed to U.N.オーエン・イズ・デッド
also i prefer to invert 東方Project and Touhou to get better consistency with existing ranked maps. well, up to you.

and there are unnecessary tags. you could remove them what i highlighted.
touhou flandre scarlet u.n. owen(duplicated with the Romanised Title.) was her mohican sandbag(doesn't matter.) vibration of womb hardstyle

you guys could know easily that it's an incorrect metadata if googled that Tetokansen Dobakku just once. but why didn't it before bubble and rank... x_x
anyway, goodluck with ranking.
Thank you for checking, TKS :3
OnosakiHito
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Thanks, changed.
Kept source 東方Project since it is originally called like that. alacat approved it. Also added ZUN into tags.
Deleted "vibration of womb" from tags, since it isn't part of the album http://junktrax.com/ms/promo/018promo.html

I hope BNs are still interested in this. Sorry about the trouble guys.
Ringating
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before you rerank I suggest taking a second look at the bg

the current bg's quality is pretty bad compared to the original.
plus the black bars on the current version are unnecessary.

I made two new versions, one that was cropped to 1300x768 then extended (not upscaled) to 1366x768, and the second one was just downscaled to 1062x768 (no point in cropping it to 1024 wide; the extra width will benefit those that don't play at 4:3).

the first one will be the highest quality for the most players, but at the cost of extra cropping.
1
2
neither of them have the text from the current image, so if you really want that then I (or someone else) can re-add it.

no kds
DaxMasterix
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go ono go :D
Love
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Love
Call me back when everything is ready to go again.
DakeDekaane
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Love wrote:

Call me back when everything is ready to go again.
PatZar
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Love wrote:

Call me back when everything is ready to go again.
OnosakiHito
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@Ringating: Thank you for the better quality! I used the pixiv picture and added it into my BG_draft. Didn't used the other BGs since the head would be either cut off, which is a no go for me, or fill the area with her face when making the picture bigger, which I can't accept either. Rather want to make as much visible from her as possible, which is why I have these blackbars; preventing to make the picture bigger. In Taiko it's not big problem either. You don't see those bars and they are actually well accepted.

Yeah, updated everything now.

Resnapped notes since TKS found 1ms unsnapped notes.
And 04:47:329 (3) - changed to don, fits better.

I'm really glad that you help me so much guys! Those who do the last check, make sure to look one more time thorugh the map.
Just to make sure that everything is fine after the resnap.
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