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hehe

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hehe 2015-02-16T08:50:35+00:00

scooderic wrote:
[handsome's Insane]
00:39:169 (4,5) - Why use an absolutely different tempo here?
00:40:445 (4,5) - ^

variety and gives more emphasis to the vocals later on, nochange.

Owntrolf

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Topic Starter

Owntrolf 2015-02-17T00:34:58+00:00

Forum PM playtest mod

SPOILER

Okoratu wrote:
byfar's Extra
a lot of unnecessary difficulty and weird flow. some examples are:
00:13:956 (4,5) - really big for not t h a t much a reason
00:27:360 (1,1) - this is nearly unreadable :c
00:37:094 (3,1,2,3,1,2,1,1) - artificially hard spacing just for the sake of annoying people? :c
00:39:169 (1,2,3,4) - jajaja
00:40:685 (1,2) - goddammit
00:43:478 (1,1) - noooooo
00:46:669 (2) - this is 1/6 from red to white, quite sure
01:01:669 (1,2,3,4,5,1,1) - i like this pattern, this is a cool pattern
the triangles in the end feel over the top, really

overall this diff either tried really hard to be hard but ends up annoying or it tries to be annoying and fully fulfills its task here, can't tell which.

Insane
00:12:201 (3) - this slider damn
sometimes your spacing feels rather random, like you go from really big to rather small one and then back to really big one without real structure or system.. the section from 00:02:626 - to 00:12:998 - suffers from this a lot
structure is main concern

handsome
00:34:062 (3,4,5,6) - 00:35:339 (3,4,5,6) - fuck you.
00:36:456 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - these are wayyyyyyy cooler
00:45:871 - :V ocal :C
otherwise cool

hehe

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hehe 2015-02-17T03:53:35+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
handsome
00:34:062 (3,4,5,6) - 00:35:339 (3,4,5,6) - fuck you. game wont be fun without some artificial difficulty thrown i nthere
00:36:456 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - these are wayyyyyyy cooler
00:45:871 - :V ocal :C slidertick!
otherwise cool

'

loilol

byfar

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Joined July 2014

byfar 2015-02-18T01:25:20+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
byfar's Extra
a lot of unnecessary difficulty and weird flow. some examples are:
00:13:956 (4,5) - really big for not t h a t much a reason idk if its cuz i played it a thousand times but it seems fine to me
00:27:360 (1,1) - this is nearly unreadable :c jeez fine
00:37:094 (3,1,2,3,1,2,1,1) - artificially hard spacing just for the sake of annoying people? :c ? its not even that big. i changed this part though
00:39:169 (1,2,3,4) - jajaja jajajaja ^
00:40:685 (1,2) - goddammit jajajaj ^
00:43:478 (1,1) - noooooo k fine lmao ^
00:46:669 (2) - this is 1/6 from red to white, quite sure nah its not
01:01:669 (1,2,3,4,5,1,1) - i like this pattern, this is a cool pattern i know right gucci
the triangles in the end feel over the top, really yolo

overall this diff either tried really hard to be hard but ends up annoying or it tries to be annoying and fully fulfills its task here, can't tell which. both

no code cuz owntrolf updated it already l;o

Owntrolf

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Topic Starter

Owntrolf 2015-02-18T07:55:16+00:00

Please dont shoot me
Please dont kill me ;d

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

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Monstrata 2015-02-18T08:14:48+00:00

Random mod~ just for Insane :3

[Insane]

00:15:871 (3,4) - Ctrl+G. This improves the flow by making movement more circular.
00:17:467 (4,5) - Not sure if this flow-break works

00:29:435 (2,3) - The release angle of 2 into 3 is way too sharp. Almost a straight line. How about something like this: Screen. You can blanket 2 to slider 4. (440||244) That way you still create a "jump" without such a severe flow-break.
00:30:392 (6) - Why not Copy 5 and rotate 180 degrees?
00:33:584 (2,3) - Ctrl+G these two notes. flows better imo. Also creates a better star-formation.
00:38:371 (1) - Have you considered making this slider 1/4th and adding a circle at 00:38:530 - ?
00:43:637 (1) - Could use a more creative slider imo~
00:49:701 (1) - This is much better
00:51:137 (2,5) - Why not stack them? It makes the blanket you set up with 3, and 4 feel off when you play 5.
01:04:381 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - You set up a nice clock-wise flow here, but then interrupt it with 4... Ctrl G 01:05:498 (4,5) - ?
01:06:456 (1,2) - Should be a slider here imo. I don't here any signifitant beat 01:06:615 - And it certainly sounds different from the rest of the triangle jumps that follow it.
01:17:467 (3) - Imo this should start at 01:17:307 - to follow the vocals better. Could also shorten 1 and put a circle at 01:17:147 - instead since there is a beat there.
01:20:818 - 01:20:977 - Not going to map those beats? A jump would fit there too imo...
01:24:647 (1,2,3,4,5) - This triangle isnt perfect. 01:25:126 (5) - -272||243
01:25:924 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Is there a reason for this hexagon to be imperfect?

.
01:26:084 (2,7) - How about blanketting 2 with slider 7 so you can keep a roughly equal distance spacing? Something like this. I also improved the hexagon shape so you can compare and see if you want to use that instead. You could probably make 5, 6, 7 a triangle too, that would be nice~ I'm just too lazy.

gl~.

Owntrolf

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Topic Starter

Owntrolf 2015-02-18T15:24:44+00:00

monstrata wrote:
Random mod~ just for Insane :3

[Insane]

00:15:871 (3,4) - Ctrl+G. This improves the flow by making movement more circular. Fixed
00:17:467 (4,5) - Not sure if this flow-break works
00:29:435 (2,3) - The release angle of 2 into 3 is way too sharp. Almost a straight line. How about something like this: Screen. You can blanket 2 to slider 4. (440||244) That way you still create a "jump" without such a severe flow-break. Fixed
00:30:392 (6) - Why not Copy 5 and rotate 180 degrees?
00:33:584 (2,3) - Ctrl+G these two notes. flows better imo. Also creates a better star-formation.
00:38:371 (1) - Have you considered making this slider 1/4th and adding a circle at 00:38:530 - ?
00:43:637 (1) - Could use a more creative slider imo~
00:49:701 (1) - This is much better
00:51:137 (2,5) - Why not stack them? It makes the blanket you set up with 3, and 4 feel off when you play 5. Fixed
01:04:381 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - You set up a nice clock-wise flow here, but then interrupt it with 4... Ctrl G 01:05:498 (4,5) - ? Fixed
01:06:456 (1,2) - Should be a slider here imo. I don't here any signifitant beat 01:06:615 - And it certainly sounds different from the rest of the triangle jumps that follow it.
01:17:467 (3) - Imo this should start at 01:17:307 - to follow the vocals better. Could also shorten 1 and put a circle at 01:17:147 - instead since there is a beat there. [colors=#FF0000]It feels weird to start there for me [color]
01:20:818 - 01:20:977 - Not going to map those beats? A jump would fit there too imo...
01:24:647 (1,2,3,4,5) - This triangle isnt perfect. 01:25:126 (5) - -272||243 Fixed
01:25:924 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Is there a reason for this hexagon to be imperfect? . Fixed
01:26:084 (2,7) - How about blanketting 2 with slider 7 so you can keep a roughly equal distance spacing? Something like this. I also improved the hexagon shape so you can compare and see if you want to use that instead. You could probably make 5, 6, 7 a triangle too, that would be nice~ I'm just too lazy. Fixed

gl~.

Owntrolf

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Topic Starter

Owntrolf 2015-02-19T06:23:58+00:00

Readding byfar's after they remapplsnobubbleyet

byfar

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byfar 2015-02-19T06:58:37+00:00

Owntrolf wrote:
Readding byfar's after they remapplsnobubbleyet

ty for mercy

also sorry for the childish attitude towards everyone trying to help at #modhelp

HabiHolic

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HabiHolic 2015-02-19T07:55:00+00:00

Recheck

[Insane]

01:11:243 (5) - Ctrl+G is good flow imo
01:11:562 (6) - Finish?
01:17:467 - not sure finish hitsound. delete finish please

call me back

Cherry Blossom

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Cherry Blossom 2015-02-19T19:13:05+00:00

Hello.
M4M from my queue.

General

Check aimod for tag conflicts

Easy

00:37:254 (2,1,2,1) - the angle difference makes this pattern not really nice to play for a beginner since he has to adjust his mouse to handle these circles, it should be better if you make a perfect zigzag movement here, it will be more comfortable to play, just see
SPOILER

Normal

00:23:211 (5,1,2,3,4) - Looks a little extremecompared to the next patterns. And for a Normal player/beginner, 188 BPM is a little fast and 1/2s with that BPM is difficult. Try to reduce the density of this pattern, to make it easier and comfortable to play. for example you can replace this slider by 2 circles 00:23:850 (2) -

Hard

00:06:137 (3,4,1) - The flow can be improved here, the movement is not really comfortable to play here because of the sudden spacing change after a linear flow, It should be better if there is a consistent distance between each objects here.
00:21:775 (2,3) - Here, the flow can be also improved if you make something like this :
SPOILER
00:23:052 (5,6,7) - There should be a higher distance between this triple and this slider 00:22:413 (4) - because you use jumps on this pattern and it might be confusing because the gap between objects is not really noticeable with the DS you used.
00:24:169 (3) - The spacing difference is clearly noticeable, adjust these objects.
00:39:807 (5) - this works like an antijump since there are many spaced objects on the previous patterns, and, i don't really think it was intentional to use a DS 1.1, I guess it was supposed to be 1.2 or 1.3 instead ?

handsome's Insane

00:12:998 (1,2) - this spacing change is weird and inconsistent with 00:13:318 (2,3) - or 00:13:956 (4,1) - , and i don't really think it is intentional, you should make things consistent for a better impression.

Insane

00:05:419 (2) - There is nothing audible on this blue tick and it looks like overmapping because you are following nothing audible. There is much density, so it is a little useless and boring when you add more which is unnecessary.
00:27:679 (5) - There should be an equal distance between 00:27:360 (4,5) - and 00:27:679 (5,6) - because you did something like this before 00:26:881 (2,3,4) - , and the higher distance between 00:27:360 (4,5) - emphasizes more vocals.
01:25:126 (5,6) - I've tesplayed it, and it is not really comfortable to play because this antijump is not expectable, this jump pattern, there should be more distance between these circles.

byfar's Extra

00:37:733 (5) - I don't agree with that, there should be nothing on the blue tick, it is clearly inaudible and that's overmapping, there is enough density on this part, that's overkill.
00:38:371 (1) - same as ^ and 00:39:647 (3,4) - and 00:40:286 (1) - and 00:46:669 (2) -

Overall, this mapset needs more improvements on lower diffs (Easy Normal hard).
Insane has a strange flow and needs to be more structured for visual and playability.
byfar's Extra has some questionable overmapping issues and you need to get more opinions about patterns on this diffs, i smell some HW's patterns concerning style, SV changes etc.

Good Luck.

Owntrolf

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Topic Starter

Owntrolf 2015-02-19T23:10:16+00:00

Cherry Blossom wrote:
Hello.
M4M from my queue.

General
Check aimod for tag conflicts Fixed

Easy
00:37:254 (2,1,2,1) - the angle difference makes this pattern not really nice to play for a beginner since he has to adjust his mouse to handle these circles, it should be better if you make a perfect zigzag movement here, it will be more comfortable to play, just see Fixed
SPOILER

Normal
00:23:211 (5,1,2,3,4) - Looks a little extremecompared to the next patterns. And for a Normal player/beginner, 188 BPM is a little fast and 1/2s with that BPM is difficult. Try to reduce the density of this pattern, to make it easier and comfortable to play. for example you can replace this slider by 2 circles 00:23:850 (2) - Fixed

Hard
00:06:137 (3,4,1) - The flow can be improved here, the movement is not really comfortable to play here because of the sudden spacing change after a linear flow, It should be better if there is a consistent distance between each objects here. Fixed
00:21:775 (2,3) - Here, the flow can be also improved if you make something like this Fixed :
SPOILER
00:23:052 (5,6,7) - There should be a higher distance between this triple and this slider 00:22:413 (4) - because you use jumps on this pattern and it might be confusing because the gap between objects is not really noticeable with the DS you used. Fixed
00:24:169 (3) - The spacing difference is clearly noticeable, adjust these objects. Fixed
00:39:807 (5) - this works like an antijump since there are many spaced objects on the previous patterns, and, i don't really think it was intentional to use a DS 1.1, I guess it was supposed to be 1.2 or 1.3 instead ? Fixed

Insane
00:05:419 (2) - There is nothing audible on this blue tick and it looks like overmapping because you are following nothing audible. There is much density, so it is a little useless and boring when you add more which is unnecessary. Fixed
00:27:679 (5) - There should be an equal distance between 00:27:360 (4,5) - and 00:27:679 (5,6) - because you did something like this before 00:26:881 (2,3,4) - , and the higher distance between 00:27:360 (4,5) - emphasizes more vocals. Fixed
01:25:126 (5,6) - I've tesplayed it, and it is not really comfortable to play because this antijump is not expectable, this jump pattern, there should be more distance between these circles. Fixed
Good Luck.

Last edited by Owntrolf 2015-02-19T23:10:50+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

byfar

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byfar 2015-02-19T23:10:31+00:00

Cherry Blossom wrote:
Hello.
M4M from my queue.

byfar's Extra
00:37:733 (5) - I don't agree with that, there should be nothing on the blue tick, it is clearly inaudible and that's overmapping, there is enough density on this part, that's overkill. alright
00:38:371 (1) - same as ^ and 00:39:647 (3,4) - and 00:40:286 (1) - and 00:46:669 (2) -
some of these actually have a beat so i'm gonna keep a few

byfar's Extra has some questionable overmapping issues and you need to get more opinions about patterns on this diffs, i smell some HW's patterns concerning style, SV changes etc. getting on that

Good Luck.

hehe

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hehe 2015-02-20T03:53:28+00:00

Cherry Blossom wrote:
Hello. hi
handsome's Insane
00:12:998 (1,2) - this spacing change is weird and inconsistent with 00:13:318 (2,3) - or 00:13:956 (4,1) - , and i don't really think it is intentional, you should make things consistent for a better impression. lol ok

SPOILER

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Gaia

2,808 posts

Joined May 2013

Gaia 2015-02-21T20:05:59+00:00

o3o

03:16 *Gaia is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/593647 Suzuki Konomi - Absolute Soul [Insane]]
03:17 *Owntrolf run
03:17 Gaia: you need to have more consistent spacngs :>
03:17 Gaia: and hitsounding
03:22 Gaia: 00:14:594 (3,4) -
03:23 Gaia: whats bugging me the most is probably the hitsounding tho
03:25 Owntrolf: the hitsounds on slider ends?
03:27 Gaia: more like
03:27 Gaia: the missed finishes
03:27 Gaia: and some 2/4 claps
03:28 Gaia: 01:20:498 (1) - finish
03:28 Gaia: 01:21:775 (1) -
03:28 Gaia: 01:23:689 (2,3,4) - should be some sort of hitsound here..
03:29 Owntrolf: done
03:29 Gaia: 00:30:711 (6) -
03:29 Gaia: 00:33:743 (3) - clap
03:29 Gaia: 00:34:860 (1) - clap on tail
03:30 Gaia: 00:38:371 (1) - this sliderend
03:30 Gaia: 1. its not hitsounded
03:30 Gaia: 2. putting such a stressed note on a sliderend is really not recommended
03:32 Gaia: 00:53:211 (1,2) - whats with the mad undermapping here
03:32 Gaia: 00:54:967 (1) - the white tick in the middle of this is really stressed
03:32 Gaia: you can hear its pretty dominant even on 100% speed
03:32 Gaia: 00:58:796 (3) - finish on head
03:33 Owntrolf: drum finish op
03:33 Gaia: ok like
03:33 Gaia: thats probably enough for hitsounds for now
03:33 Gaia: there are more
03:33 Gaia: but ur patterns need some work too
03:33 Gaia: 00:04:541 (4,5) -
03:34 Gaia: things like this can easily be symmetrical
03:34 Gaia: 00:04:860 (5,1) -
03:34 Gaia: bad flow
03:34 Gaia: and also u can combine it with the previous 2 sliders for a nice 3 slider pattern
03:35 Gaia: 00:05:179 (1,2) - this spacing looks like a 1/4 spacing
03:35 Gaia: 00:07:733 (1,2,3) - this is actually nice
03:35 Gaia: 00:09:647 (4,5,1) - same as what i said earlier
03:35 Gaia: 00:15:233 (6) - what is this = =
03:36 Gaia: and it looks like you like overlaps
03:36 Gaia: but if you're gunna do it
03:36 Gaia: do it right
03:36 Gaia: 00:13:637 (5,6,1) - this is ehhhh
03:36 Owntrolf: 6 overlapping pink 3?
03:37 Gaia: I'll show u waht looks reaaally bad
03:37 Gaia: 00:16:669 (1,2,3) -
03:37 Gaia: 1. its bad flow
03:37 Gaia: 2. its bad overlapping
03:39 Owntrolf: 10/10
03:39 Gaia: do some copy paste
03:39 Gaia: rotate
03:39 Gaia: and ayy
03:39 Gaia: http://puu.sh/g6IND/2717990257.jpg
03:40 Gaia: i shortened 00:17:626 (5) - because i think you shouldnt ignore that white tick
03:40 Gaia: it has a drum beat in it
03:40 Gaia: it also messes up ur hitsounding pattern
03:42 Gaia: 00:18:264 (1) - you can do something more interesting starting from here too
03:42 Gaia: i bay leaf
03:42 Gaia: 00:21:775 (1,2,3,4) - you're probably better off making this into a 4 slider pattern
03:43 Gaia: instead of a 1 + 3 slider pattern
03:43 Gaia: 00:21:775 (1) - this is outta place compared to the other 3 sliders
03:47 Owntrolf: k
03:49 Gaia: tell byfar to calm down with the finishes in ther kiai = =
03:49 Gaia: his map is actually ok
03:51 Owntrolf: k
03:52 Gaia: ur easier diffs
03:53 Gaia: id say easy needs more work
03:53 Owntrolf: are garbage\
03:53 Gaia: the chosren rhytrhms
03:53 Gaia: are ehh
03:53 Gaia: the hard is alright
03:53 Gaia: look at easy
03:53 Gaia: and a bit more on normal
03:53 Owntrolf: lel

HabiHolic

5,495 posts

Joined October 2012

HabiHolic 2015-02-22T03:57:49+00:00

My Insane Recheck modding Fixed?

Owntrolf

546 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Owntrolf 2015-02-22T04:07:30+00:00

HabiHolic wrote:
My Insane Recheck modding Fixed?

Most of it is fixed but I didnt really like the ctrl+g part that much

jyu

1,336 posts

Joined August 2012

jyu 2015-02-22T04:50:31+00:00

Hi! as a continuation from this mod p/3868709#p3868709 so no kds
dang so many BN came idk if this is really helpful so yeah

[General]

byfar's Extra is too easy for me. i got C

and i just realized that byfar's diff has no stack leniency so idk i hope its fine

[handsome's Insane]

00:00:233 (1,2,1) - gdi i really thought this was a triplet ;w; well idk maybe im just noob. switching nc here 00:00:552 (1,2) - can really improve the reading because this 00:00:233 (1,2,1) - and this 00:00:711 (2,3,4,5,6) - are different pattern
00:16:190 (4) - lmao blanket nazi ahahdgfdsh move the last node to 204|264
00:20:179 (5,1) - hnng this anti-jump feels really awkward for me because it's between two sliders. different case with 00:20:020 (4,5) - tho because its between a circle and a slider and there's a challenge because we have to click really fast (at the upbeat and downbeat) meanwhile 00:20:179 (5,1) - we only click at the two consecutive upbeat and the anti jumps kinda makes it quite awkward for me. well idk why i'd explained that long. i'd lower 00:20:179 (5) - a bit to create jump with 00:20:498 (1) - http://puu.sh/g7lfn/9cb29a747d.jpg since moving 00:20:498 (1) - can ruin your pattern afterward and it's really a hassle
00:25:445 (6,1) - same like above. i think jumps like this 00:30:392 (5,1) - is really neat. and dang this one is really low
00:30:711 (1) - finish at slider's head? idk i think it's good to accent the vocal here
00:32:226 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - changing the sampleset into normal is quite good to emphasize the drums, rather than having a somewhat quiet stream when the song is getting tense
00:42:998 (4) - nc? idk the vocal has a kinda different atmosphere here so idk yeah only suggestion
00:44:594 (1,2) - switch nc? since only one combo here is weird 00:43:637 (1) - . and switching nc still make sense since 00:44:913 (2) - is at the big downbeat
00:48:105 (2,3) - i suggest adding some whistle pattern like you did at 00:46:350 (1,2,3) - since both patterns also have piano in the song
01:17:307 (4) - 01:19:701 (2) - finish at slider's tail seems weird tbh. i'd add finish here 01:20:498 - 01:21:137 - 01:21:775 - 01:22:413 - to balance the finish hitsound pattern here 01:19:222 (1,2) - . and maybe you should add finish at 01:17:307 (4) - 's head, not tail

[Insane]

00:01:030 (5) - idk just personal preference. i'd make this one more curved a bit since previous slider is also curved http://puu.sh/g7mp2/e501aa12b0.jpg . also it kinda improve the flow more. and gdi why is this one so out of border
00:28:318 (1,2) - switch nc? since you added nc at upbeat before, like 00:23:371 (1) - 00:25:924 (1) -
00:38:131 (3) - nc? this one also have sv change like 00:38:371 (1) - yet you only nc-ed 00:38:371 (1) -
01:05:658 (5,6) - hmm idk these two are quite close and its not really neat for me idk i'd separate them a bit http://puu.sh/g7n0f/5e0fd7eb86.jpg

[byfar's Extra]

dang thats a lot of nc

00:02:626 (1) - i understand that you nc-ed this because of the sv change. but theres some inconsistencies with 00:05:179 (1) - 00:07:733 (1) - 00:10:286 (6) - . if i were you, i'd nc 00:08:052 (2) - and 00:10:286 (6) - to fix the inconsistency
00:11:562 (6) - i suggest to nc this since the music is quite different here.
00:14:594 (1) - dang remove this nc. no need to accent the long vocal tbh since its still in the same combo with 00:12:998 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
00:14:594 (1) - also ctrl+G this makes the flow more interesting, continuing the circular flow from here 00:13:637 (3,4,5,6) -
00:17:786 (1) - remove nc?
00:18:743 - 00:19:222 - 00:19:701 - hmm these sv changes is kinda weird unnecessary since there's no significant changes in the song. i think making it like 00:16:509 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - is better
00:20:498 (1,3) - these two have different sv even though they're in the same combo and there's nothing in the song that makes them different. i suggest to change 00:20:498 (1) - 's sv into 1.25x like 00:20:977 (3) -
00:26:881 - 00:27:360 - also weird sv changes. there's no significant change in vocal which is why it feels weird when you accented them
00:28:956 - ^
00:33:105 (1) - i suggest snapping this kick slider to 1/8 bsd http://puu.sh/g7ogg/c27b53d206.jpg more challenging, i guess. and it accent the drums well
00:36:615 (1) - ggggggg the sv gggggggggg i suppose you have to add slow slider like this somewhere for consistency. i'd make 00:37:254 (3,4) - like this http://puu.sh/g7ouj/57f3965860.jpg . i only changed 00:37:254 (3) - 's sv into 0.75x and nc-ed it like 00:36:615 (1) -
00:40:286 (1,2) - switch nc. because single combo like 00:39:967 (1) - is really weird. if you follow, remove nc 00:40:685 (1) -
00:42:839 (1) - remove nc? single combo is weird. and this slider is still in the same combo with 00:42:360 (1,2) - tbh
00:49:701 (1) - ^

well i guess thats all. hope it helps >< sorry for really late ;w;
goodluck~!

hehe

1,975 posts

Joined November 2012

hehe 2015-02-22T08:32:49+00:00

AlpacaCokelat wrote:
[handsome's Insane]

00:00:233 (1,2,1) - gdi i really thought this was a triplet ;w; well idk maybe im just noob. switching nc here 00:00:552 (1,2) - can really improve the reading because this 00:00:233 (1,2,1) - and this 00:00:711 (2,3,4,5,6) - are different pattern nah, now it is easier to read
00:16:190 (4) - lmao blanket nazi ahahdgfdsh move the last node to 204|264 ok
00:20:179 (5,1) - hnng this anti-jump feels really awsthjsajhsrtj sure
00:25:445 (6,1) - same like above. i think jumps like this 00:30:392 (5,1) - is really neat. and dang this one is really low ok
00:42:998 (4) - nc? idk the vocal has a kinda different atmosphere here so idk yeah only suggestion nah, nc pattern
00:44:594 (1,2) - switch nc? since only one combo here is weird 00:43:637 (1) - . and switching nc still make sense since 00:44:913 (2) - is at the big downbeat ok

owntrolf does hitsound so ya

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Owntrolf

546 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Owntrolf 2015-02-22T18:28:57+00:00

Added theramdans' Hard
Im going to wait for more mods

Ciyus Miapah

3,028 posts

Joined June 2013

Ciyus Miapah 2015-02-25T13:11:34+00:00

Change byfar's extra to Byfar's Terror?
/me runs

i play your map again and wow... that is impressive!!!, i like you make all of some notes is clearly visible. Good job bro!

bibilicu

3,578 posts

Joined October 2013

bibilicu 2015-02-25T20:42:44+00:00

~~I'll mod thereamdans's Hard friday . Poke me if I forgot :V~~ Never mind

Last edited by bibilicu 2015-02-27T12:46:18+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Nathan

2,161 posts

Joined August 2014

Nathan 2015-02-26T02:11:44+00:00

Well since Owntrolf spams this map so much, I guess I'll just drop some suggestions since this mapping style is too ham for me

[handsome's Insane]

00:11:881 (2) - Ctrl+g here? It flows better imo plus the guitar gets a bit stronger on each note throughout 00:11:562 (1,2,3) so it's better if (2) is different in some way
00:19:062 (5) - Try placing this around 224|368 for a bit more emphasis on the vocal at 00:19:222 (1)
00:30:711 (1) - Missing finish on head?
01:06:456 (1) - ^
01:18:903 (5) - Ctrl+g, vocals could be more emphasized here plus on 01:19:222 (1)

[Insane]

00:35:179 (2) - This really disrupts the flow since the player will have to stop on this note, especially when you have this crazy slider speed! Since you're primarily following vocals in this part maybe turning 00:34:860 (1) into a 1/1 could work?
01:19:860 (3) - Ctrl+g, I don't really see the point of the jump in 01:19:701 (2,3) if you compare it to 01:19:062 (5,1)

byfar's extra 3cr4zy5me

hehe

1,975 posts

Joined November 2012

hehe 2015-02-26T15:46:41+00:00

here for fun OWNTROLF PLZ INCREASE HARD OD TO 6.5/7

theramdan's hard

drop AR by 0.5 - 1. OD to 6 or 5.5.
00:14:594 (5) - change this, its a very awkward repeat, since the repeat's sound isn't too loud. even if you're following vocals, its awkward. i suggest something like this: http://i.imgur.com/5TJxS91.png
00:23:211 (1,2) - swap in rhythm? considering you've been following vocal all this time.
00:25:605 (7) - make this a slider so every downbeat nazi will be happy. its weird to just leave 7 mapped when the next sound is obviously louder.
00:43:637 (1,2) - considering its a slow part, extending this to the white tick just feels better. leaving it on a piano note that you don't map to afterwards is weird.
00:46:190 (5,1) - swap nc?
01:03:903 - consider cutting your NCs in half during kiai?
01:03:903 (1,2,3) - rhythm doesn't feel good here, i think its alright to shorten the 1/1 slider. so you have 1/2 slider - circle - 1/2 slider.
01:26:881 (1) - this is so out of place lol

sukiNathan wrote:
Well since Owntrolf spams this map so much, I guess I'll just drop some suggestions since this mapping style is too ham for me

[handsome's Insane]
00:11:881 (2) - Ctrl+g here? It flows better imo plus the guitar gets a bit stronger on each note throughout sounds good
00:19:062 (5) - Try placing this around 224|368 for a bit more emphasis on the vocal at 00:19:222 (1) nah but i did move it
01:18:903 (5) - Ctrl+g, vocals could be more emphasized here plus on 01:19:222 (1) current pattern has more emphasis.

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theramdans

1,253 posts

Joined September 2012

theramdans 2015-02-26T16:27:42+00:00

handsome wrote:
here for fun OWNTROLF PLZ INCREASE HARD OD TO 6.5/7

theramdan's hard

drop AR by 0.5 - 1. OD to 6 or 5.5. ~AR to 7.5 OD to 6
00:14:594 (5) - change this, its a very awkward repeat, since the repeat's sound isn't too loud. even if you're following vocals, its awkward. i suggest something like this: http://i.imgur.com/5TJxS91.png ~fixed my way
00:23:211 (1,2) - swap in rhythm? considering you've been following vocal all this time. ~swapped
00:25:605 (7) - make this a slider so every downbeat nazi will be happy. its weird to just leave 7 mapped when the next sound is obviously louder. ~ 7 is a slider now
00:43:637 (1,2) - considering its a slow part, extending this to the white tick just feels better. leaving it on a piano note that you don't map to afterwards is weird. ~the piano is now in the sliderbody
00:46:190 (5,1) - swap nc? ~swapped
01:03:903 - consider cutting your NCs in half during kiai? ~halved
01:03:903 (1,2,3) - rhythm doesn't feel good here, i think its alright to shorten the 1/1 slider. so you have 1/2 slider - circle - 1/2 slider. ~nah, I kept the 1/1 slider coz it follows the vocal, I changed the following 2 1/2 circles into 1 1/2 sliders tho, just realized it was weird
01:26:881 (1) - this is so out of place lol ~lol I changed the sliderend a bit

Thanks handsome o/\o
for Owntrolf

Owntrolf

546 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Owntrolf 2015-02-27T00:59:35+00:00

Applied changes to my hard and updated both diffcs

AlpacaCokelat wrote:
Hi! as a continuation from this mod p/3868709#p3868709 so no kds
dang so many BN came idk if this is really helpful so yeah

[Insane]

00:01:030 (5) - idk just personal preference. i'd make this one more curved a bit since previous slider is also curved http://puu.sh/g7mp2/e501aa12b0.jpg . also it kinda improve the flow more. and gdi why is this one so out of border
00:28:318 (1,2) - switch nc? since you added nc at upbeat before, like 00:23:371 (1) - 00:25:924 (1) -
00:38:131 (3) - nc? this one also have sv change like 00:38:371 (1) - yet you only nc-ed 00:38:371 (1) - Done
01:05:658 (5,6) - hmm idk these two are quite close and its not really neat for me idk i'd separate them a bit Did a little changehttp://puu.sh/g7n0f/5e0fd7eb86.jpg

well i guess thats all. hope it helps >< sorry for really late ;w;
goodluck~!

HabiHolic

5,495 posts

Joined October 2012

HabiHolic 2015-02-27T06:18:07+00:00

Nice.

ac8129464363

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Joined October 2013

ac8129464363 2015-02-27T06:34:28+00:00

lol

byfar

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byfar 2015-02-27T06:36:58+00:00

lol

HabiHolic

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HabiHolic 2015-02-27T07:08:54+00:00

:3

rebubbled your self pop

pishifat

osu! Paragon

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Joined August 2013

pishifat 2015-02-27T07:28:34+00:00

map at the top of the bubble list fun fun fun

[byfar]
00:01:030 (5) - unsnapped
moldy

[theramdan]
missing video

[normal]
01:02:147 (3,1) - spacing is gross. both objects are on the playfield at the same time, so it can be misinterpreted as distnace snap nonsense. this was dq'd for the exact same thing

[]

habi can do something again if he wants i'm not touching this lol

byfar

1,186 posts

Joined July 2014

byfar 2015-02-27T07:36:50+00:00

pishifat wrote:
map at the top of the bubble list fun fun fun

[byfar]
00:01:030 (5) - unsnapped
moldy

[theramdan]
missing video

[normal]
01:02:147 (3,1) - spacing is gross. both objects are on the playfield at the same time, so it can be misinterpreted as distnace snap nonsense. this was dq'd for the exact same thing

[]

habi can do something again if he wants i'm not touching this lol

oh thank god pishi mercy

and did you say my diff was shit

Ringating

717 posts

Joined August 2013

Ringating 2015-02-27T07:39:33+00:00

also add this bg (the current one has compression artifacts despite being png, and is larger than the png that I'm providing)

bg

pishifat wrote:
23:41 - pishizor.: yes
23:41 - pishizor.: @byfar

no kds

Owntrolf

546 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Owntrolf 2015-02-27T08:06:57+00:00

selfpopped and applied pishifat's mod

Thanks for mercy :>

theramdans

1,253 posts

Joined September 2012

theramdans 2015-02-27T17:14:26+00:00

things got real
And I didnt actually notice that this map has a video :<

HabiHolic

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Joined October 2012

HabiHolic 2015-02-28T09:40:34+00:00

Rebubbled

DeletedUser_3044645

DeletedUser_3044645 2015-03-01T00:22:36+00:00

pishifat wrote:
i'm not touching this lol

theramdans

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Joined September 2012

theramdans 2015-03-01T00:39:20+00:00

No Dap go qualify ~

byfar

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Joined July 2014

byfar 2015-03-01T02:12:01+00:00

No Dap wrote:
pishifat wrote:
i'm not touching this lol

map's too bad to pop. us sad

neonat

Beatmap Nominator

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Joined April 2012

neonat 2015-03-01T05:41:19+00:00

pishifat wrote:
I'm not touching this lol

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

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Kibbleru 2015-03-01T20:42:19+00:00

pishifat wrote:
i'm not touching this lol

byfar

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Joined July 2014

byfar 2015-03-01T22:26:26+00:00

need more bat quotes

FlobuFlobs

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Joined June 2011

FlobuFlobs 2015-03-01T23:02:29+00:00

Lal

HabiHolic

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HabiHolic 2015-03-02T00:11:49+00:00

pishifat wrote:
i'm not touching this lol

>_>

Owntrolf

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Topic Starter

Owntrolf 2015-03-02T00:37:32+00:00

Muh luls

Gaia

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Gaia 2015-03-02T00:37:56+00:00

pishifat wrote:
i'm not touching this lol

Little

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Little 2015-03-02T01:01:17+00:00

Normal:
01:25:605 (3,4) - It wouldn't be hard to make this 1.20x DS too, if you tried.

327,196,85605,2,0,P|168:188|195:30,1,360,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
285,90,87201,2,0,L|252:121,1,45,0|4,3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:

byfar

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byfar 2015-03-02T05:06:49+00:00

so bad it can't get popped

Aerous

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Aerous 2015-03-02T23:23:38+00:00

Can I smell this

hehe

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hehe 2015-03-03T14:32:15+00:00

IM FINALLY A BN i get to say this even though i cant

pishifat wrote:
i'm not touching this lol

Birdy

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Birdy 2015-03-03T15:38:23+00:00

oh okay here we go

pishifat wrote:
i'm not touching this lol

pishifat

osu! Paragon

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pishifat 2015-03-03T17:21:45+00:00

this is the real BN welcome thread

DeletedUser_3044645

DeletedUser_3044645 2015-03-03T17:42:14+00:00

pishifat wrote:
this is the real BN welcome thread

LOL

byfar

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byfar 2015-03-03T19:43:36+00:00

welcome everyone. your pledges are greatly welcomed

xxdeathx

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xxdeathx 2015-03-04T05:05:49+00:00

pishifat wrote:
i'm not touching this lol

Lach

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Lach 2015-03-04T05:12:40+00:00

memes

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-03-04T13:53:12+00:00

if i being BN i will give you 2 heart for your map and byfar map.

so sad BNs didnt want to touch this

/me runs

Aurele

Global Moderator

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Aurele 2015-03-05T02:22:58+00:00

pishifat wrote:
i'm not touching this lol

wait.

even if I tried
even if I wanted to
but I can't rank.

bibilicu

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bibilicu 2015-03-05T13:36:50+00:00

If I will be BN in april , maybe I'll qualify it :3 Till' then , call -Nya- , she's BN

Natsu

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Natsu 2015-03-05T23:39:43+00:00

xxdeathx wrote:
pishifat wrote:
i'm not touching this lol

this kind of post don't help the mapper and just make him feel bad.

byfar's Extra:

To be honest (Just my opinion) this map lack of consistency is like the map is full of big jumps for the sake to make it hard, for example 00:11:562 (1,2,3) - this part where the jumps fit alot with the music lost all the relevance cause of parts like this: 00:10:605 (1,2,3,4,5) - that doesn't deserve such a big jumps
SV changes are random to me, just being honest
00:14:594 (1,1,2,3) - is the combo spam really necesary?
00:16:509 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - same as above, I don't see how this comboing fit the song actually
00:28:637 (3,4,5) - can you explain how this sv changes are readables? there is not visually/ music clue that this will happen.
00:33:105 (1) - this nc is totally unnecesary
00:36:615 (1,1,2,3,4,5) - really bad rhythm, delete those objects and listen careful to the music
00:39:169 (1,2) - ^
00:40:445 (2,1) - this is kind
of unfair for players, there is not way to notice this kind of 1/4 jumps
00:42:360 (1,2,1) - ^
00:53:371 (5,1) - ^
01:01:669 (1,2,3,4,5) - there is nothing in the music that justify this, use 1/2 rhythm like it is in the music.

Insane:

same case as extra there are alot of random jumps that have nothing to do with the song, for example: 00:24:328 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
00:34:062 (1,2) - delete the objects and listen again to the song, 50% 25 %
00:35:339 (3) - ^
00:36:615 (2,3) - ^
00:53:211 (1,2) - this play really bad (IMO) I prefer if you do a jump or atleast you use a regular spacing (a stack will work too)
kiai looks a bit random, too many jumps I think this is more an extra than an insane.

Handsome Insane:

00:34:062 (3,4,5,6) - I prefer if you use stacks, since your current pattern is too confused too play
00:35:339 (3,4,5,6) - ^
00:37:254 (2,3,4,5) - (I still prefer sliders, but this alot better than above things)
yes this diff is fine, I like it

I see why so many people are afraid of this, In my opinion this was mapped for being difficulty instead of fitting to the song (maybe just me) I think it need more work before being ready for rank, instead of mods gonna be nice if the mapper rethink a bit more about this diff (I didn't check the other diffs for lack of time). to be honest I think Extra diff and your insane lack of quality and are not ready to go

, I suggest you to rework your patterns and find places where jumps fits and no spam jumps in all the diff, also will be nice if you both go and listen to the song again and fix those rhythms that don't have nothing to do with the song (Also more mods, dont get alot of tiny mods, I prefer if you look for really experienced modders to help you with this), popping due to quality issues in Extra and Insane diff, also for silence slider ends and wrong rhythm at the extra diff: 01:01:669 (1,2,3,4,5)

If you don't agree with me, you can look for other BN tho.

xxdeathx

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Joined July 2013

xxdeathx 2015-03-06T01:10:16+00:00

Natsu wrote:
xxdeathx wrote:
i'm not touching this lol
this kind of post don't help the mapper and just make him feel bad.

The mapper specifically asked me to quote pishifat in this thread, if that makes any difference

Owntrolf

546 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Owntrolf 2015-03-06T01:18:22+00:00

Oh its all fine death.

Finally recieved the Natsu mod after 26 days

guineaQ

1,589 posts

Joined December 2013

guineaQ 2015-03-06T01:20:49+00:00

I'm here to touch this again

Day 1 (I don't know how many days this will take):

byfar's Extra

Summary

1. Confusing SV changes
2. Haphazard stacking
3. Dire lack of structure/congruity between patterns due to extreme spacing

Actual mod - PLEASE FIX section

00:02:945 (1,2) - why are you stacking here? It would more fun to play and not boring flow wise if you do it like this
00:03:424 (3,4,5,6) - There is really no need to manually stack them like this.
00:04:541 (3,4) - the flow from slider 3 suggests that 4 should be more on the middle area when it comes to y positioning.

like really

Also, the music where 4 is placed ain't so strong enough to hint a big of a jump like that.
You can try

or something idk but some pattern where jump from 4 to 1 is bigger than 3 to 4
00:05:020 (4) - you forgot normal sampleset here
00:07:573 (5,1) - why is dis stacked put jumpu at 5 to 1
00:08:052 (2,3) - why stacku

I stacked 3 where 6 is, and you get that niceu flowu
00:10:126 (5,6) - me no undestand why u stack something that has a finish ;w;
00:14:594 (1) - ctrl + g
00:18:424 (3,4) - whyyy u stack
00:20:818 (2,3) - stop stacking keep moving ;w;
00:50:658 (1,2,3) - this triangle looks so alone and off from this world >w> (cus this 00:49:701 (1) - is wtf)
00:54:009 (1,2,3) - ;w;
The kiai is
ugh
01:03:903 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this whole pattern is overspaced, triangles are nice yes, but they actually become excruciating to play as the distance becomes larger and larger since trajectory gets normalized into straight lines eventually and its basically same as doing randomly placed jumps ;w;
01:05:020 (6,1) - rip flow
01:05:818 (4,5) - 4.2x jump when vocal goes down a pitch ok
01:06:536 (7) - ???
01:07:573 (4,1) - STOP STACKING WHERE YOU CAN SPACE THEM AAAAAAAAA
01:13:956 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - wtf is going on with NC here
01:16:669 (1) - m8 i understand sv change was for vocals but its evil
01:17:945 (1) - wow

SUGGESTIONS section

00:05:498 (1,2,3) - This actually plays fine as it is, but personally I find it more comfortable/fun to play when the circles are placed in a way to force more circular movement.

This is your current flow

Can be improved as

When the flow is optimized, it gives more time for players to use the momentum they have to reach out to jumps that are further away with more ease. I mean think about it. When there is strict flow changes, the player has to decelerate, and than accelerate to a new direction, causing loss of reaction time. Although its few ms, few ms is a lot in higher diffs ;w; Optimizing your flow allows you to place bigger jumps without being uncomfortable >w<

hope you get my logic
00:05:977 (4,1) - 420/10 would stack 1's end to 4's end

COMMENT/NAZI section

00:06:774 (2,4) - would blanket again

===Continuing from here with updated diff===
First of all I have to say that first 30 seconds look/play much much much much better than when I first looked at this long time ago

Ordinary mod now

00:07:573 (5,1) - stack perfectly desu
00:15:871 (2,4) - just something minor, I would stack them perfectly
00:17:467 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - I like what you are doing here but wouldn't it be better if the 00:18:264 (2) - was below 00:18:105 (1) - to follow the clockwise motion? The movement from 00:18:584 (4) - to 00:18:743 (1) - won't be an issue as a stack allows you freedom to choose new direction of flow
00:23:052 - to 00:29:594 - don't change pls
00:34:302 (2) - ctrl+g?
00:49:701 (1) - this slider still bothers me to no end due to how it looks :<
01:01:748 - to 01:02:467 - delete redundant timing points please
01:19:860 (3,1) - I think you could have made this a bigger jump

Hm I'm gonna need to testplay the kiai part more to see how each patterns play out specifically (and yes I can pass this diff reliably now so)

Last edited by guineaQ 2015-03-06T11:58:40+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Natsu

8,100 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2015-03-06T01:26:08+00:00

Owntrolf wrote:
Oh its all fine death.

Finally recieved the Natsu mod after 26 days

yeah sorry about that, I was having problems in real life, but I'm back :3

byfar

1,186 posts

Joined July 2014

byfar 2015-03-06T02:42:17+00:00

Natsu wrote:
byfar's Extra:

To be honest (Just my opinion) this map lack of consistency is like the map is full of big jumps for the sake to make it hard, for example 00:11:562 (1,2,3) - this part where the jumps fit alot with the music lost all the relevance cause of parts like this: 00:10:605 (1,2,3,4,5) - that doesn't deserve such a big jumps fix
SV changes are random to me, just being honest not really, i just follow the vocals. ill probably tone it down a little, maybe just .05x or .1x difference
00:14:594 (1,1,2,3) - is the combo spam really necesary? its ok, ill split up previous combo to make the combos more consistent.
00:16:509 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - same as above, I don't see how this comboing fit the song actually actually its fine
00:28:637 (3,4,5) - can you explain how this sv changes are readables? there is not visually/ music clue that this will happen.
00:33:105 (1) - this nc is totally unnecesary yea
00:36:615 (1,1,2,3,4,5) - really bad rhythm, delete those objects and listen careful to the music i'm following vocals, not the background instrumentals
00:39:169 (1,2) - ^ ^
00:40:445 (2,1) - this is kind of unfair for players, there is not way to notice this kind of 1/4 jumps lowered spacing
00:42:360 (1,2,1) - ^ same ^
00:53:371 (5,1) - ^ same ^
01:01:669 (1,2,3,4,5) - there is nothing in the music that justify this, use 1/2 rhythm like it is in the music it's the feeling that the piano gives me: a downward motion of the fingers that create a strong piano sound, which is why i want to make the 1/2 a 1/4 flow slider in motion. if this isnt allowed i'll change, but i can say that 1/2s do not give the same effect 1/4 (w/ silenced ends) does.

I see why so many people are afraid of this, In my opinion this was mapped for being difficulty instead of fitting to the song (maybe just me) I think it need more work before being ready for rank, instead of mods gonna be nice if the mapper rethink a bit more about this diff (I didn't check the other diffs for lack of time). to be honest I think Extra diff and your insane lack of quality and are not ready to go , I suggest you to rework your patterns and find places where jumps fits and no spam jumps in all the diff, also will be nice if you both go and listen to the song again and fix those rhythms that don't have nothing to do with the song (Also more mods, dont get alot of tiny mods, I prefer if you look for really experienced modders to help you with this), popping due to quality issues in Extra and Insane diff, also for silence slider ends and wrong rhythm at the extra diff: 01:01:669 (1,2,3,4,5) i can agree that the spacing needs some work, however i do not believe it has artificial difficulty.

Last edited by byfar 2015-03-06T02:57:21+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Natsu

8,100 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2015-03-06T02:55:57+00:00

byfar wrote:
Natsu wrote:
byfar's Extra:

00:53:371 (5,1) - ^
01:01:669 (1,2,3,4,5) - there is nothing in the music that justify this, use 1/2 rhythm like it is in the music it's the feeling that the piano gives me: a downward motion of the fingers that create a strong piano sound, which is why i want to make the 1/2 a 1/4 flow slider in motion. if this isnt allowed i'll change, but i can say that 1/2s do not give the same effect 1/4 (w/ silenced ends) does AsI said before this was the main cause of the popping, just to clarify ¨this is not unrankable¨, but is something that my personal criteria will not allow, is your diff so the choise is your.

I see why so many people are afraid of this, In my opinion this was mapped for being difficulty instead of fitting to the song (maybe just me) I think it need more work before being ready for rank, instead of mods gonna be nice if the mapper rethink a bit more about this diff (I didn't check the other diffs for lack of time). to be honest I think Extra diff and your insane lack of quality and are not ready to go , I suggest you to rework your patterns and find places where jumps fits and no spam jumps in all the diff, also will be nice if you both go and listen to the song again and fix those rhythms that don't have nothing to do with the song (Also more mods, dont get alot of tiny mods, I prefer if you look for really experienced modders to help you with this), popping due to quality issues in Extra and Insane diff, also for silence slider ends and wrong rhythm at the extra diff: 01:01:669 (1,2,3,4,5) i can agree that the spacing needs some work, however i do not believe it has artificial difficulty. but is the spacing that create the artificial difficulty + those sv changes

byfar

1,186 posts

Joined July 2014

byfar 2015-03-06T03:00:57+00:00

Natsu wrote:
but is the spacing that create the artificial difficulty + those sv changes

idk, maybe its cuz i testplayed it so many times already i cant feel it anymore ;-;

ill do somethign about it

hehe

1,975 posts

Joined November 2012

hehe 2015-03-06T03:06:04+00:00

no change @ Natsu~

Owntrolf

546 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Owntrolf 2015-03-06T03:11:43+00:00

I think I fixed it but Im not sure if I did what you wanted me to do with the things around the 35 sec mark

UndeadCapulet

1,100 posts

Joined April 2013

UndeadCapulet 2015-03-06T03:16:45+00:00

Hi I'm just a random nobody who was typing up a full mod because this got popped for some reason but I think I need to post my mod of byfar's before he makes any rash decisions orz.

[BYFAR'S GLORIOUS EXTRA]

Anyone complaining about SV changes or large jumps needs to git gud, they match the music and play fine. It's about time someone made a difficulty of this song that actually shows off what makes it so cool: the vocals.

00:08:211 (3,4) Ctrl+G or something along those lines to emphasize the high note in the guitar would be nice.
00:11:084 (3,4,5,1,2) I agree with Natsu that the jumps here are pretty large for the music, but it plays pretty well so I don't really care if you change it or not. I think an SV change to like 1.15 or something for 1 and 2 emphasizes the guitar better than a jump ever would, though.
00:24:727 (2,4) Fix the blanket .-. Also, if you're gonna keep the NC emphasis on the 1/1 vocal at 00:14:594 than at least make it consistent here.
00:33:105 (5) I feel this should be angled upwards instead of lining up with the stream, there's no sense of finality as it is right now. Idk if that makes sense orz but something like http://puu.sh/goh3L/6c098b2056.jpg feels better to me.
00:35:578 (2) Ctrl+G this and move it to the right. The reason this part doesn't really work but the others do is since the slider here is pointing towards the next slider the player just wants to move on to the next slider instead of finishing the one they're currently on. I sliderbreak here every time no matter how much I tell myself not to. Anti-flow is best, like you did with the other slider jumps.
00:36:615 (1,1,2,3,4,5) This is amazing and I love you.
01:02:147 (4,5,1) Aim 5 towards the 1. Since you're cutting off the rapid progression upwards coming from the 1/4 sliders by having 5 be Ctrl+G'd, the cursor doesn't know where to go anymore, so the only logical place to travel is where the 5 slider is pointing (since 5 is just a mirrored 4 flip 4 too if you want idk). Also this part is wonderful please don't remove it ;w;
01:06:456 (6,7,1) Not too sure why you're having the long vocal start on a random triplet. There isn't even anything here worth having a triplet for.
01:24:807 (2,3) Ctrl+G for them sexy high notes?
01:25:286 (2,3) ^

Natsu

8,100 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2015-03-06T04:12:56+00:00

handsome wrote:
no change @ Natsu~

reason?

byfar

1,186 posts

Joined July 2014

byfar 2015-03-06T05:06:38+00:00

UndeadCapulet wrote:
Hi I'm just a random nobody who was typing up a full mod because this got popped for some reason but I think I need to post my mod of byfar's before he makes any rash decisions orz.

[BYFAR'S GLORIOUS EXTRA]

Anyone complaining about SV changes or large jumps needs to git gud, they match the music and play fine. It's about time someone made a difficulty of this song that actually shows off what makes it so cool: the vocals.

00:08:211 (3,4) Ctrl+G or something along those lines to emphasize the high note in the guitar would be nice. even if i did idk how to rearrange this.. still changed to something else
00:11:084 (3,4,5,1,2) I agree with Natsu that the jumps here are pretty large for the music, but it plays pretty well so I don't really care if you change it or not. I think an SV change to like 1.15 or something for 1 and 2 emphasizes the guitar better than a jump ever would, though. yea
00:24:727 (2,4) Fix the blanket .-. Also, if you're gonna keep the NC emphasis on the 1/1 vocal at 00:14:594 than at least make it consistent here. fixed
00:33:105 (5) I feel this should be angled upwards instead of lining up with the stream, there's no sense of finality as it is right now. Idk if that makes sense orz but something like http://puu.sh/goh3L/6c098b2056.jpg feels better to me. its fine
00:35:578 (2) Ctrl+G this and move it to the right. The reason this part doesn't really work but the others do is since the slider here is pointing towards the next slider the player just wants to move on to the next slider instead of finishing the one they're currently on. I sliderbreak here every time no matter how much I tell myself not to. Anti-flow is best, like you did with the other slider jumps.
00:36:615 (1,1,2,3,4,5) This is amazing and I love you. owo
01:02:147 (4,5,1) Aim 5 towards the 1. Since you're cutting off the rapid progression upwards coming from the 1/4 sliders by having 5 be Ctrl+G'd, the cursor doesn't know where to go anymore, so the only logical place to travel is where the 5 slider is pointing (since 5 is just a mirrored 4 flip 4 too if you want idk). Also this part is wonderful please don't remove it ;w; debating ;-;
01:06:456 (6,7,1) Not too sure why you're having the long vocal start on a random triplet. There isn't even anything here worth having a triplet for. deleted
01:24:807 (2,3) Ctrl+G for them sexy high notes? neh its fine as it is
01:25:286 (2,3) ^

^

thanks

guineaQ wrote:
I'm here to touch this again

Day 1 (I don't know how many days this will take):
byfar's Extra

Summary
1. Confusing SV changes
2. Haphazard stacking
3. Dire lack of structure/congruity between patterns due to extreme spacing

Actual mod - PLEASE FIX section
00:02:945 (1,2) - why are you stacking here? It would more fun to play and not boring flow wise if you do it like this fixed to my own liking. dont really like ur flow ;w;
00:03:424 (3,4,5,6) - There is really no need to manually stack them like this. yea
00:04:541 (3,4) - the flow from slider 3 suggests that 4 should be more on the middle area when it comes to y positioning.
rotated 15 degrees
like really

Also, the music where 4 is placed ain't so strong enough to hint a big of a jump like that.
You can try

or something idk but some pattern where jump from 4 to 1 is bigger than 3 to 4
00:05:020 (4) - you forgot normal sampleset here
00:07:573 (5,1) - why is dis stacked put jumpu at 5 to 1
00:08:052 (2,3) - why stacku

I stacked 3 where 6 is, and you get that niceu flowu
00:10:126 (5,6) - me no undestand why u stack something that has a finish ;w;
00:14:594 (1) - ctrl + g
00:18:424 (3,4) - whyyy u stack
00:20:818 (2,3) - stop stacking keep moving ;w;
00:50:658 (1,2,3) - this triangle looks so alone and off from this world >w> (cus this 00:49:701 (1) - is wtf)
00:54:009 (1,2,3) - ;w;
The kiai is
ugh
01:03:903 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this whole pattern is overspaced, triangles are nice yes, but they actually become excruciating to play as the distance becomes larger and larger since trajectory gets normalized into straight lines eventually and its basically same as doing randomly placed jumps ;w;
01:05:020 (6,1) - rip flow
01:05:818 (4,5) - 4.2x jump when vocal goes down a pitch ok
01:06:536 (7) - ???
01:07:573 (4,1) - STOP STACKING WHERE YOU CAN SPACE THEM AAAAAAAAA
01:13:956 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - wtf is going on with NC here
01:16:669 (1) - m8 i understand sv change was for vocals but its evil
01:17:945 (1) - wow
unstacked and rearranged patterns ;w;
SUGGESTIONS section
00:05:498 (1,2,3) - This actually plays fine as it is, but personally I find it more comfortable/fun to play when the circles are placed in a way to force more circular movement.

This is your current flow

Can be improved as

When the flow is optimized, it gives more time for players to use the momentum they have to reach out to jumps that are further away with more ease. I mean think about it. When there is strict flow changes, the player has to decelerate, and than accelerate to a new direction, causing loss of reaction time. Although its few ms, few ms is a lot in higher diffs ;w; Optimizing your flow allows you to place bigger jumps without being uncomfortable >w<

hope you get my logic
00:05:977 (4,1) - 420/10 would stack 1's end to 4's end
COMMENT/NAZI section
00:06:774 (2,4) - would blanket again

I'm still not done with byfar gonna finish later today zzzzzzzz

thanks

byfar

1,186 posts

Joined July 2014

byfar 2015-03-06T06:37:29+00:00

k so after seeing this map get ranked, https://osu.ppy.sh/b/644945&m=0 (sky star)

Idk what to say about my spacing

theramdans

1,253 posts

Joined September 2012

theramdans 2015-03-06T06:59:28+00:00

nothing wrong in my diff?

hehe

1,975 posts

Joined November 2012

hehe 2015-03-07T08:23:39+00:00

Natsu wrote:
handsome wrote:
no change @ Natsu~
reason?

those changes are all minimal, didn't think a reason would be necessary. its just i don't they're confusing at all and doesn't warrant a change.

Anxient

1,573 posts

Joined June 2014

Anxient 2015-03-07T11:39:32+00:00

hue

Birdy

5,757 posts

Joined April 2011

Birdy 2015-03-08T01:10:48+00:00

Anxient wrote:
hue

hue

FlobuFlobs

617 posts

Joined June 2011

FlobuFlobs 2015-03-08T01:29:33+00:00

Lal, Just a quick overlook mod cuz im bored

[ByFar's something]

y u HP6 q_q
00:51:775 (2) - Overlapp
00:26:881 (1) - ^
00:18:264 (2,3) - How about ctrl+g, Strong vocals there
00:35:578 (1) - Remove NC and add NC here 00:35:339 (4) - to keep a 3-combo like 00:34:062 (1,2,3) - at these loud vocals
00:59:435 (3) - Not sure if this is still inscreen while playing with HR
01:23:690 (3) - Add NC to read the spacing change?
01:29:594 - Unnecesarry inhireted point

Okoayu

Nomination Assessment Team

5,060 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoayu 2015-03-08T16:49:21+00:00

[byfar]
00:46:669 (2) - am i still the only one who thinks this is 1/6
like there are 4 percussion sounds between red tick and white

tutuhaha

3,059 posts

Joined October 2010

tutuhaha 2015-03-08T20:50:43+00:00

[byfar's Extra]
00:01:509 (2,1,2) - I suggest overlap 1 on slider's tail and then make a jump like this:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2866314
00:02:626 (1) -
00:05:179 (1) -
00:07:733 (1) -
00:10:286 (1) -
those four parts has same rhythm so what I think is they basicly need use same type of rhythm
so the question is why you dont use 1.25x on 00:07:733 (1) - ?
00:08:850 (2) - move it litter bit far like on x52 y208
00:26:881 (1,1) - it's pretty weird because you use high sv with small space, I suggest do ctrl+g on 00:27:360 (1) -
00:28:557 (2) - well...maybe move to x264 y240 will be another choose to you
00:34:302 (2) - ctrl+g
well, the all 3/4 rhythm you're using on this part, I suggest just unity them for one sv will be more acceptable and still funny on playing, like use 1.3X or even 1.5x, I dont think those rhythm need use different sv to stress them, and also you can use large distance, it will be fine for me <3
00:51:775 (2) - move down litter bit, it almost touch HP bar
01:17:945 (1,2) - really weird for me
actually what i think is use distance change like big jump to stress rhythm is enough, is no necessary to use high sv on here, it just weird
01:29:594 (3) - delete this green line

[Insane]
00:01:509 (1,2,3) - hmmm..delete 2 and make a small jump like this
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2866399
00:11:881 (2) - move to x8 y116
00:14:594 (3,4) - this distance with respect to another distance is too small, weird
00:19:701 (7) - move to x152 y24
00:31:190 (2,3,4,5) - use same distance please
00:42:360 (1,2) - hard too read
00:53:131 (x) - actually there has rhythm
00:57:041 (3) - hmm...I dont think there is necessary to change the sv
01:10:924 (4,5) - this distance with respect to another distance is too small, weird
01:12:201 (4,5) - ^

[handsome's Insane]
00:16:190 (4) - move to x116 y240

[Hard]
00:44:594 (1,2,3,4) - hard to read, or you should change sv at the same time
01:01:669 (4) - ctrl+g
actually what I think is...you need unity your distance _(:зゝ∠)_..

[theramdans'Hard]
00:13:637 (3,4) - blanket
00:23:052 (3,4,1,2,3) - same space, and actually what i think is use slider+arrow to instead the first three notes
00:37:254 (3) - NC
00:42:360 (3) - ^
I like this hard <3

[Normal]
suggest use this rhythm at begin
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2866471
hmm...some part of rhythm in this diff make me confuse..
00:32:786 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - like this part

well, then, goodluck

byfar

1,186 posts

Joined July 2014

byfar 2015-03-09T02:54:46+00:00

tutuhaha wrote:
[byfar's Extra]
00:01:509 (2,1,2) - I suggest overlap 1 on slider's tail and then make a jump like this:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2866314 nice
00:02:626 (1) -
00:05:179 (1) -
00:07:733 (1) -
00:10:286 (1) -
those four parts has same rhythm so what I think is they basicly need use same type of rhythm
so the question is why you dont use 1.25x on 00:07:733 (1) - ? vocal lowering in pitch and intensity (slowdown)
00:08:850 (2) - move it litter bit far like on x52 y208 no, spacing is too large
00:26:881 (1,1) - it's pretty weird because you use high sv with small space, I suggest do ctrl+g on 00:27:360 (1) - change pattern
00:28:557 (2) - well...maybe move to x264 y240 will be another choose to younope , i like my blanket
00:34:302 (2) - ctrl+g changed to a different pattern
well, the all 3/4 rhythm you're using on this part, I suggest just unity them for one sv will be more acceptable and still funny on playing, like use 1.3X or even 1.5x, I dont think those rhythm need use different sv to stress them, and also you can use large distance, it will be fine for me <3okies
00:51:775 (2) - move down litter bit, it almost touch HP bar ok moved 1 pixel
01:17:945 (1,2) - really weird for me lowered to 1.5x SV
actually what i think is use distance change like big jump to stress rhythm is enough, is no necessary to use high sv on here, it just weird
i actually much prefer to use high SV with big jumps because it feels mushy and bad with slower sliders in this song
01:29:594 (3) - delete this green line wtf lol

thanks for mod

Owntrolf

546 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Owntrolf 2015-03-09T05:36:58+00:00

tutuhaha wrote:
[Insane]
00:01:509 (1,2,3) - hmmm..delete 2 and make a small jump like this Done
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2866399
00:11:881 (2) - move to x8 y116 Done
00:14:594 (3,4) - this distance with respect to another distance is too small, weird Done
00:19:701 (7) - move to x152 y24 Done
00:31:190 (2,3,4,5) - use same distance please Done
00:42:360 (1,2) - hard too read I think fixed
00:53:131 (x) - actually there has rhythm
00:57:041 (3) - hmm...I dont think there is necessary to change the sv
01:10:924 (4,5) - this distance with respect to another distance is too small, weird Fixed
01:12:201 (4,5) - ^ Fixed

[Hard]
00:44:594 (1,2,3,4) - hard to read, or you should change sv at the same time I think its better now
01:01:669 (4) - ctrl+g Applied for now
actually what I think is...you need unity your distance _(:зゝ∠)_..

[Normal]
suggest use this rhythm at begin
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2866471
hmm...some part of rhythm in this diff make me confuse..
00:32:786 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - like this part
I just leave ti as is for now
well, then, goodluck

hehe

1,975 posts

Joined November 2012

hehe 2015-03-09T06:10:47+00:00

applied

cod

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DeletedUser_3044645

DeletedUser_3044645 2015-03-09T06:42:23+00:00

Natsu wrote:
xxdeathx wrote:
i'm not touching this lol
this kind of post don't help the mapper and just make him feel bad.

party pooper

Aerous

1,492 posts

Joined September 2013

Aerous 2015-03-11T03:37:49+00:00

I'll take a look over with Owntrolf again when I have time

theramdans

1,253 posts

Joined September 2012

theramdans 2015-03-13T15:58:02+00:00

tutuhaha wrote:
00:13:637 (3,4) - blanket ~that is fuking thin lol, anyway fixed
00:23:052 (3,4,1,2,3) - same space, and actually what i think is use slider+arrow to instead the first three notes ~yeah changed that triplet to 1/4 repeat slider, and that spacing error is just my bad
00:37:254 (3) - NC ~ok
00:42:360 (3) - ^~ok
I like this hard <3 ~this is the 2nd time I believe,that you said you like my diff , and also I like it too <3

Thanks 2ha! :3

update!

Ujimatsu Chiya

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Ujimatsu Chiya 2015-03-15T08:11:08+00:00

From my queue

oh another Absolute Soul <3

Bold : Should be fix it.
Green : high recommended suggestion
Normal : In my personal opinion.

[General]

you should be remove ' Absolute ' in tag already in tittle.
cheak out widescreen in theramdans' Hard

[byfar's Extra]

You sholud be fix NC stuff. you use really many speed change. but you know? so Many NC make confused to play.

AR : 9.3~9.5 , OD : > 8.3 HP : 7.3 // I think better this for gep with Insane diff.
00:01:350 (1) - you miss stack on this 00:00:871 (4) -
00:03:424 (1,1) - I can't understand why you add NC here? It's really confusing with 00:02:626 (1) - I guess remove NC make better to play.
00:03:424 (1,2) - and make ctrl + G seem to be better follow, I think. If got jump in 00:03:424 (1) - player can easier to understand with next jump 00:03:743 (1) -
00:04:541 (3) - you little miss blanket with 00:04:381 (2) -
00:07:733 (1) - tail didn't stack on 00:07:573 (5) -
00:10:286 (2) - tail didn't stack on 00:09:169 (1) -
00:10:605 (3) - I think normal whistle is really awkward. I think you add auto whistle on head and add sampleset Normal on resverse.
and you should be fix stack with 00:09:647 (4) - tail.
00:12:201 (3) - Deceleration is better than acceleration.
00:14:594 (3) - well... Thing did not change yet I think there is a reason. but It's really hard to read. I think ctrl + G is really better. ( follow , read )
00:15:073 (4) - remove NC. no need here.
00:16:509 (1) - you miss stack with 00:16:030 (3) -
00:16:988 (1) - remove NC. no need here.
00:17:786 (3) - same above. remove NC
00:19:222 (1,3) - Switch NC better. If you want to emphasize the vocal you are unsure of changing.
00:19:062 (2) - move x : 415 , y : 196. better for design.
00:20:498 (1) - fix blanket pls
00:22:094 (2) - Nazi. just I think this is better symmetry.
SPOILER
00:22:413 (3) - tail didn't stack with 00:21:775 (1) - 's head.
00:23:052 (1) - remove NC. and add here 00:23:211 (3) - . remove NC 00:23:850 (1) - too.
00:24:328 (1) - cheak head. you miss stack, too.
00:25:286 (1) - remove NC. no need here.
00:27:839 (3) - ^
00:28:557 (2) - I guess It's really bad to play. The first time to play, surely we can't 300 point there.
00:28:956 (1) - remove NC better.
00:29:754 (1) - remove NC and add here 00:29:914 (2) -
00:30:233 (1) - same above. remove NC and add 00:30:392 (2) -
00:30:392 (2) - cheak stack pls.
00:31:748 - remove this green line.
00:31:828 - ^
00:31:828 (1) - remove NC here. no need.
00:35:339 (4,1) - I'm sure switch NC better. 00:35:339 (4,1,2) - those slider speed are different but you don't have NC here 00:35:818 (2) -
0.1 ~ 0.2x speed difference is okay because there are a lot of shifting. and matched 00:34:062 (1,2,3) - , make better to play.
00:37:493 (2) - remove NC
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
00:39:807 (1,2,1,2,1,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - change NC sutff.
>>00:39:807 (3) - remove NC
>>00:39:967 (1) - NC
>>00:40:286 (1) - remove NC
>>00:40:445 (1) - NC
>>00:40:685 (2) - remove NC
>>00:41:243 (2) - remove NC
>>00:41:722 (1) - NC
SPOILER

those NC is better to play and follow vocal's
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
00:43:478 (3,1) - switch NC better. 00:42:998 (1,2,3) - those are 1/3 beat.
00:49:701 (4) - remove NC
00:55:605 (5) - pls cheak stack here.
00:56:722 (4,1,2) - ^
00:57:520 (4) - ^
00:57:520 (4) - add NC instead 00:57:998 (1) - this.
00:58:477 (3) - add NC make great rhythm. ( 00:58:477 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - )
01:09:967 (5) - you little miss blanket at middle.
01:10:286 (1) - fix blanket with 01:10:764 (2) -
01:11:562 (3,1) - switch NC before remove NC here. 01:10:924 (1) -
01:12:839 (1) - add finish
01:18:424 (1,2,3) - fix stack pls.
01:21:615 (1) - add finish reverse.
01:22:413 (1) - didn't stack with 01:21:296 (3) - 's head. and fix blanket with 01:23:052 (3) -
01:23:211 (1) - remove NC and add NC here 01:23:371 (2) -

I think confused to read to NC. pls cheak one more time.

[handsome's Insane]

OD 7.5 better for diff spread, I guess.

[Hard]

00:11:562 (1) - you little miss blanket
01:26:881 (1) - add NC better, I think.

[Normal]

01:25:605 (3) - same reason hard. add NC.

Well..... GL

Last edited by Ujimatsu Chiya 2015-04-25T07:16:35+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Owntrolf

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Owntrolf 2015-03-15T22:47:01+00:00

eINess wrote:
From my queue

oh another Absolute Soul <3

Bold : Should be fix it.
Green : high recommended suggestion
Normal : In my personal opinion.

[General]
you should be remove ' Absolute ' in tag already in tittle. But every other ranked set has Absolute as tags :d
cheak out widescreen in theramdans' Hard Done

[Hard]
00:11:562 (1) - you little miss blanket But theyre symmetrical when you look at the approach circle and circle :d
01:26:881 (1) - add NC better, I think. Done

[Normal]
01:25:605 (3) - same reason hard. add NC. Done

Well..... GL

Little

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Joined November 2012

Little 2015-03-16T01:37:03+00:00

Owntrolf wrote:
But every other ranked set has Absolute as tags :d

Beatmap search recently changed, and no longer supports searching by exact phrases.
That makes the duplicated tag useless.
Go see for yourself: https://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmaplist?q=%22a ... 0&g=0&la=0

Owntrolf

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Topic Starter

Owntrolf 2015-03-16T05:02:47+00:00

CloudSplash16 wrote:
Owntrolf wrote:
But every other ranked set has Absolute as tags :d
Beatmap search recently changed, and no longer supports searching by exact phrases.
That makes the duplicated tag useless.
Go see for yourself: https://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmaplist?q=%22a ... 0&g=0&la=0

K fixed

BeatofIke

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BeatofIke 2015-03-24T15:39:38+00:00

Theres a HUGE rise in difficulty from Hard to Handsome's Insane. The spread between those difficulties is too high.

bibilicu

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bibilicu 2015-03-24T16:56:06+00:00

BeatofIke wrote:
Theres a HUGE rise in difficulty from Hard to Handsome's Insane. The spread between those difficulties is too high.

Hard diff have 3.56 stars (4 stars) and handsome's insane 4.85 (5 stars) . I think the spread between these 2 diffs not looks so bad but at Hard diff I suggest HP 6 and OD 7 :p

neonat

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neonat 2015-03-24T17:36:55+00:00

ByBy_ChAn wrote:
Hard diff have 3.56 stars (4 stars) and handsome's insane 4.85 (5 stars) . I think the spread between these 2 diffs not looks so bad but at Hard diff I suggest HP 6 and OD 7 :p

Stop using the star rating as the gauge.
Look at the difficulties themselves

The difference between handsome's Insane and the Hard, it's probably because Hard has almost no noticeable, if any at all, big jumps, unlike handsome's Insane. I mean, it already starts out with this 00:02:945 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - which is pretty much like 4x the usual spacing found in Hard?
Spacing like 00:23:371 (2,3,4,5) - is commonplace in this Insane, but it much much bigger than from Hard
There is also streams that aren't exactly short bursts, namely 00:32:147 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)
Doubles like 00:34:062 (3,4,5,6) - also complexes the rhythm, while Hard's was pretty much standard and manageable.

There should be something between these 2 difficulties to tie in, something that probably has some short burst of streams or jumps.

Also the Hard, 01:21:775 (1,2,3,4) - what's with this decrease in spacing? It doesn't make sense at all, it's still in the chorus, the intensity is the same, that decrease in spacing takes away the strength of the song.
Same thing with 01:26:084 (2,3,4,1) - it's the end part of the song, have the same spacing as 01:24:647 (1,2,3,4) - make it bigger than what was before it in the chorus

bibilicu

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bibilicu 2015-03-24T17:47:11+00:00

neonat wrote:
ByBy_ChAn wrote:
Hard diff have 3.56 stars (4 stars) and handsome's insane 4.85 (5 stars) . I think the spread between these 2 diffs not looks so bad but at Hard diff I suggest HP 6 and OD 7 :p
Stop using the star rating as the gauge.
Look at the difficulties themselves

I watched at forum and in game and it's same lol I'm not good at math but even I said to increase the OD and HP , I forgot to suggest to WTF not to reduce add some jumps and streams :p

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DeletedUser_3044645 2015-03-26T02:18:53+00:00

neonat wrote:
Stop using the star rating as the gauge.
Look at the difficulties themselves

byfar

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byfar 2015-03-26T03:33:32+00:00

go owntrolf u can do it

bibilicu

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Joined October 2013

bibilicu 2015-03-26T17:51:39+00:00

No Dap wrote:
neonat wrote:
Stop using the star rating as the gauge.
Look at the difficulties themselves

ok ok ;w; just try to be like a BN I not aiming for QAT wtf

Rizia

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Joined January 2012

Rizia 2015-03-28T11:35:55+00:00

[Insane]

AR kinda fast, AR8.8 is better imo

[handsome's Insane]

00:00:552 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - these jump can much more bigger
00:02:626 (1) - 00:05:179 (1) - 00:07:733 (1) - 1/1 is better imo
SPOILER
00:08:371 (4) - x204 y144
00:15:392 (7) - x496 y236
01:18:903 (5) - ctrl+g? more fun
01:21:296 (4) - ^
01:24:967 (3) - x180 y128?

[Hard]

00:31:828 (3,4) - it's look like 1/4 imo
00:34:062 (2,3) - slider?
00:36:615 (2,3) - ^

more work on placement
good luck

Owntrolf

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Topic Starter

Owntrolf 2015-03-29T19:45:37+00:00

Kawaiwkyik wrote:
[Insane]
AR kinda fast, AR8.8 is better imoBut decimal AR

[Hard]
00:31:828 (3,4) - it's look like 1/4 imo Spread out more
00:34:062 (2,3) - slider? I did this because theres doubles in handsome's :d
00:36:615 (2,3) - ^
more work on placement
good luck

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-04-06T14:32:30+00:00

VINXIS didnt touch this map

unranked
/me runs

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