Charles445 wrote:

I think add +14, would be better

Sorry,I forget to notice this map,forget give to ur KD

I'll check it soon ! Thanks Chewin suggestion ~ !

(Perhaps I'll replace some parts)

Chewin wrote:

Hello! Sorry for being late with this m4m I'm so late mod reply to this ,too.

General Stuff

1. The video offset is placed too early. if you notice you'll see that the singer starts singing still when there is only melody without vocal LOL. Try to place it at offset: 1057. It looks perfect. Fixed.

Shiki Revive

1. 00:02:343 (6) - What about adding new combo here? New melody is starting just on this downbeat, it'd be cool Fixed.
2. 00:05:342 (4) - This slider flows so bad after the 00:04:057 (1,2,3) ones. I would keep the same logic on this pattern copy-pastying the 00:04:485 (2) like you did for 00:04:057 (1,3) placing it some grid left than 00:04:485 (2). You should fix the 00:05:771 (1) as well if you apply this Consider it.
3. 00:07:056 (4) - What about adding normal sampleset on this slider's tail to fill the drum of the melody? I would set normal sampleset on this finish as well: Fixed.
   
4. 00:07:485 (1). Same for 00:08:342 (3)'s head and so on, like 00:09:199 (1) with all those drum sounds. I won't mention it anymore, I guess you got it Added finish in slider head at 00:08:342 (3) & 00:09:199 (1),fixed.
5. 00:19:269 (6,7,1) - Stack it better Fixed.
6. 00:22:697 (7) - New combo Fixed.
7. 00:35:552 (4) - NC here as well. The melody is different Fixed.
8. 00:54:514 (3,4,5,6,7) - To get a better flow I'd change the position of some elements from 00:54:835 (5). What about making something like: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1789445 ? Flows much better! Feel looks fine now.
   
   SPOILER

   60,156,54835,2,0,L|68:236,1,50
   76,324,55049,1,10,0:0:0:0:
   195,102,55264,1,0,0:0:0:0:

9. 00:58:692 (4) - Move to x:348 y:80 to keep the pattern consistent Fixed.
10. 01:00:941 (2) - This looked kinda unexpected to me, honestly. Move it closer to the previous (1) pls Fixed.
11. 01:38:115 (7) - New combo Fixed.
12. 02:09:529 (2,3) - Make the spacing bigger? So much spacing unconsistency <_< Okay,fixed.
13. 02:31:490 (8,1) - switch ncs Fixed.
14. 03:05:776 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - I don't understand this overbig and overhuge spacing, honestly... Sounds like this music seems can make jump,so no change this.
15. 03:29:558 Silence this slider's tick, it's confusing, same for 03:30:201 (6), 03:31:915 (4,6) - same and so on Fixed.
16. 03:44:770 (5) - new combo? Fixed.
17. 03:57:126 Add a red line here and set those circles in this way: http://puu.sh/9Z4FD/2ca92867b8.jpg they are actually really off. Moreover, re-add a red line on 03:58:268 (5) Perhaps don't add this,look fine now.
18. 04:55:274 (7) - NC Fixed.
19. 04:57:203 (5,1) - Switch NCs Fixed.

This diff needs more and more work. There are so much inconsistent spacings <_< well, i hope it helped at least, good luck with it!Sure,help a lot ~ ! Thanks Chewin !

1. 第二根红线大丈夫？很多音都off了：02:01:066 - 02:01:495 - 02:01:602 - 02:01:923 - etc.(尤其是clap处特别明显)
2. 建议把HP稍微降一点。app图嘛，何况你这Kiai节奏还难读，还没有break >.<。6~6.5 will be fine.
3. 00:00:629 -> 00:03:200 - 这一段remap一下。这里没有什么节奏，图跟的是很舒缓的乐器，因此距离没必要一开始就那么大，和后面没啥区别。这3秒弄成一个light Insane就好了。
4. 00:55:478 (1,2) - 跟着音乐来讲的话，我这里会弄jump。00:56:335 (1,2) - same 00:57:192 (1,2) - same
5. 01:13:904 (6,1) - Minor. 这两个可以blanket
6. 01:14:761 (2) - 换成1/2slider
7. 01:27:616 (6,1,2) - Minor. Fix the blanket?
8. 01:33:615 (3,4,5) - 节奏为什么不填满？如果说是kiai后的缓和段倒是可以理解，可是01:48:613 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这一段明明节奏不密也不强你又把节奏下这么满。
9. 02:35:347 (2) - Ctrl+G吧，这样距离实在是有点大。
10. 03:57:197 (1,2,3) - 不建议下note。我试了一下，要到1/16才能压得准后面两声钢琴，何必呢，别人根本读不出来。
11. No need to say much about nazi, because it is less important.
12. 关于inconsistent spacing

    1. 00:49:479 (4,5,6,7,1) - 这里的跳跃有点不懂.
    2. 03:01:491 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - 这里的距离不大好理解。光听节奏其实2345只有2有节奏，但是你节奏填满了不说，距离拉那么大可是音乐氛围跟不上。然后就是71这里距离是可以加大的。
    3. 01:05:762 (1,2) - 要我说，你kiai 3/4滑条的距离一直是一个谜>.< 比起把那些大的跳改小，我更支持你把这里的DS改大，让1和2的尾相blanket.
    4. 01:06:619 (3,4) - ^
    5. 全部重新看了一遍之后，发现你3/4slider距离还是比较短的。01:10:047 (3) - 那这个地方应该不止我一个人提吧。
    6. 02:50:350 (1,2,3) - A little bit confusing about distance.
    7. 其实在我的理解当中，consistent spacing的目的就是为了让所有能读的了这个AR的人都能无视Approaching Circle而轻松读图。而不是说需要什么DS作图之类的。其实楼上所说的把AR增高是一个道理。AR高了Approaching Circle自然就更明显一些。
    8. 我还想指出一点：并不是所有player见到散乱的1/4滑条就知道是1/4滑条跳的。不过似乎就目前player community来说，1/4滑条跳距离似乎问题不是很大。

Elaine wrote:

船业又做神图

1. Your video offset is kinda off, what about to use 844 as offset instead 1057? it looks better imo.
2. You should remove Wakeshima from tags since you've already added it more than once, btw consider to add 屍鬼 because is the source of the song and Full Version too.
3. Consider to remove drum-whistle.wav because is a useless file since you already has a drum-hitwhistle.wav.
4. I think you should take a look to the AIBat cause you have many unsnapped points by 1 or 2 ms in the difficulty that isn't noticeable in stable and cutting edge version.

1. 00:03:628 (3) - To emphasize the vocal I would like you could add a NC in this part since it would fit great, in my opinion.
2. 00:06:199 (2,3) - What do you think about using CTRL + G in both sliders? to improve the flow in the map and make it more natural and fun somehow, something like this might work.
3. 00:07:270 (5) - To be honest I feel that it would sound a lot better if instead of using a normal sound replace it by a sound drum, you should try it.
4. 00:19:376 (8) - If you listening carefully you can realize that here there isn't a noticeable sound because it actually the sound should be exactly in 1/6 (00:19:412 - ) so I recommend you to change these two notes 00: 19: 269 (7.8) - by a slider.
5. 00:25:696 (5,6) - Same as above because it should be like this rhythm in my opinion.
6. 03:14:132 (8,9) - ^ 03:15:846 (6,7) - ^
7. 00:30:624 (1) - I guess this is intentional but I'd like to trying to replace this by 1/4 slider instead 1/2 cause the rhythm here is quite constant to be honest.
8. 00:32:553 (4) - What do you think to move it to X: 96 Y: 193 for doing a perfect stack with 00:33:624 (4) - this circle and avoid any problems for read the next pattern and the plus can be that you improve the aesthetics as well.
9. 00:34:909 (1,2,3) - This is just a personal suggestion but After many tries I come to the conclusion slightly change the position of the 3 circles and make a different jump, something like this flows much better somehow.
10. 00:42:837 (6) - hmm.... this feels kinda overmapped if you ask me so a quick fix would be to extend this by 1 tick.
11. 01:11:547 (4,5,1,2,3) - Don't you think that this is quite difficult to pass? there has many circles 1/4 in a short time but I guess that you can slightly change the distance between all the circles to be less uncomfortable to play.
12. 01:19:796 (2,3) - Nazi* How about to make a nice blanket with these both objects? something like this could be quite ideal in my opinion.
13. 01:21:938 (4) - NC for a better readability?
14. 02:13:252 (3) - ^ 02:16:787 (4) - ^ 04:09:945 (4) - ^
15. 01:22:902 (8,1) - Switch NC because there has a change at the vocals that is very noticeable imo.
16. 05:08:117 (5,1) - ^ (in this case is the instrumental)
17. 01:45:185 (1) - Did you forget to add a finish at the head of the slider? or this is intentional? I would consider to add it because there has a sound at the background.
18. 01:53:112 (1,2,3) - Wow ... this is too difficult even for me, I see no reason to make such an exaggerated jump in this part so it would be highly recommended to replace the distance by other more shorter.
19. 01:54:826 (1) - Remove the NC because is too short in compared to the rest patterns.
20. 02:10:895 (1,2,3) - To be honest this stack feels quite uncomfortable so what do you think to move this circle 02:10:895 (1) - to X: 256 Y: 28 for a better flow.
21. 02:19:893 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - Flow here is kinda awkward for me, what about to change the position of the stream for something like this? for the rest you should move the next circle to X: 256 Y: 60 for the same reason that I've mentioned before.
22. 02:42:176 (2,3,4) - Whistle?
23. 03:01:491 (2,3,4,5) - Maybe it's just me but this feels kinda overmapped from my point of view, just for avoid any problems in the future would be ideal if you try to doing another rhythm pattern here..
24. 03:10:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - I'm not sure about the rhythm here because it has a 1/6 part and 1/4 so try to do something different here please...
25. 03:57:947 (4) - this should be snapped in 03:57:911 (4) - if I'm not wrong.
26. 04:50:118 (3) - just a minor thing but what about to change it by a slider repeat in 1/6, it fits well imo?
27. 04:58:381 (8,9) - I don't get it why you do jumps like this one because to be honest it doesn't flow great at all so I recommend to do CTRL + G in this slider 04:58:488 (9) - to avoid this problem... and if you wanna keep the next one you should do the same thing to 04:58:917 (1) - this one.
28. 05:09:724 (1) - I suggest you to finish this spinner at 05:11:974 - since 05:08:117 (1) - there hasn't a sound.

Gero wrote:

Seems like you just ignored my mod, I was thinking to give a bubble but now I'm not sure at all, anyways good luck.

Gero wrote:

I told you about that in game since 1 month ago and I was waiting for your reply to give a bubble, anyways if you still need it you're free to call me back when you're done to apply/reply my mod otherwise you should ask to another BAT.

Gero wrote:

Sorry but I should popping this due an unsnapped thing (spinner) at 03:53:760 - here, If I'm not wrong it should be snapped on 03:56:759 - so I recommend you to use resnap all notes to avoid any possible disqualification, Move a bit at this spinner,but this seems not the disqualification issue,I think playing the spinner there is no so big effect at here I think (Just a 1ms)

btw I've asked for some opinions about this thing 03:14:123 (8,9,1) - so we concluded that it's quite confusing and a bit random the change of the rhythm here so I'd like to suggest to try something different at this part, call me back when you're done to check that everything is snapped and ready for rebubbled. Will ask alacat this issue

Rakuen wrote:

查下是不是漏了

如果不是的话可能看下其他part，因为有些部分有放有些没，像01:18:180 (1) - , 04:20:756 (1) - 都加了

01:19:037 - Clap
01:39:605 - Clap
02:26:741 (1) - ^
02:27:598 - ^
02:40:453 (1) - 02:41:310 -

上面這幾個之前好像聽不太出來就沒加了，不過還是照你的建議都加了

抱歉了orz 謝啦

Tari wrote:

Sadly though, I have to pop this map, due to incorrect timing.

I took a hitch at timing the map, and I find its best you try a BPM of 140. The extra timing lines are useless , and even then you still have the wrong timing when you include them. With the .2 you have added to each of the timing line BPM, some notes appear earlier then expected. You can see this by looking at the end of the kiai and generally at the end of the song where the .2 becomes quite noticeable. Sure,the BPM adjust to 140,and delete another red lines,keep single red one here

Your offset, is just a slightly bit early. I've tested with different offsets and have gotten numbers from 623 ish to 613, I guess its best to use the average of those 2 and try 618. I find it the best with the map. Okay,offset fix to 618.

Anyways, tell me when you've changed the timing of this map (I've confirmed with others on timing too just to make sure) and I'll throw a mod at this map. I hate to see all that work put into waste. Its better to see this map moved forward, and of course I'll try my best to make that happen! Okay,thanks ~! I'm ready,wait for you next reply.



EDIT: Don't forget to resnap notes and resnap your green lines! Thanks remind,I use hand adjust all resnap green line and notes there

1. 00:21:832 (3,4) - Hmmm, to be honest, Such kick sliders don't fit. They make some of the jumps feel forced and the spacing really confusing, You should really consider only using them on special parts of the music. This part, does not have that. In fact, its like a regular 5- note stream. Even that fits better than what you are using now. The best solution would be space this out regularly.
2. 00:23:760 (1,2,3,4) - This one is okay, but the pattern is really random, I would really want you to do this : http://puu.sh/eWUeH.jpg . Introducing a kick slider with a new combo makes the overall pattern much more readable, since you can get the jist of how the spacing is. And since this combo is only using kick sliders, its relatively okay to make them kick sliders given you've used the same spacing. When you use kick sliders that have the same spacing as notes that are spread 1/2 about, it gets really confusing and you can't tell when to click or not.
3. 00:28:796 (3,4,5,6) - Use all circles instead, I think it fits better. a mini stream would work well here.
4. 00:52:046 (1) - I would move this higher, you can tell the difference better , since the spacing is really confusing here.
5. 00:54:510 (3,4) - Move this more to the left please, it will help it become more readable.
6. 00:59:546 (2,3,4) - http://puu.sh/eWVAn.jpg
7. 01:00:939 (2) - Better rotate the note 180 degrees anti-clockwise, or else this would be really weird to play, since nobody know if its 1/2 or 1/4 now. like this : http://puu.sh/eWVFv.jpg
8. 01:13:475 (3,4,5) - Space them further out.
9. 01:15:082 (3,4,5,6) - ^
10. 01:28:796 (3,4,5,6) - ^
11. 02:35:653 (3,4,5,6) - ^
12. 02:37:368 (3,4,5,6) - ^
13. 04:28:796 (3,4,5,6) - ^
14. 02:52:046 (5) - The new combo should be here instead, remove at 02:52:475 (1) -
15. 03:57:135 (1,2,3,4) - RIP, the snapping on this is strange, let me get some checks on this one

Tari wrote:

[Shiki]

1. 00:21:832 (3,4) - Hmmm, to be honest, Such kick sliders don't fit. They make some of the jumps feel forced and the spacing really confusing, You should really consider only using them on special parts of the music. This part, does not have that. In fact, its like a regular 5- note stream. Even that fits better than what you are using now. The best solution would be space this out regularly.
   Okay,follow your opinion to change a 5 notes stream here,and the same part 01:37:260 (3) - and 04:54:403 (3) - are changed,too
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2. 00:23:760 (1,2,3,4) - This one is okay, but the pattern is really random, I would really want you to do this : http://puu.sh/eWUeH.jpg . Introducing a kick slider with a new combo makes the overall pattern much more readable, since you can get the jist of how the spacing is. And since this combo is only using kick sliders, its relatively okay to make them kick sliders given you've used the same spacing. When you use kick sliders that have the same spacing as notes that are spread 1/2 about, it gets really confusing and you can't tell when to click or not.
   Sure,I fix this pattern from your suggestion
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3. 00:28:796 (3,4,5,6) - Use all circles instead, I think it fits better. a mini stream would work well here. Changed,same vocal part 01:44:225 (3) - and are changed, too
4. 00:52:046 (1) - I would move this higher, you can tell the difference better , since the spacing is really confusing here. Make close 00:51:832 (2) - this , also will more easy to read I think
5. 00:54:510 (3,4) - Move this more to the left please, it will help it become more readable. Okay,moved to the same distance here
6. 00:59:546 (2,3,4) - http://puu.sh/eWVAn.jpg Fixed
7. 01:00:939 (2) - Better rotate the note 180 degrees anti-clockwise, or else this would be really weird to play, since nobody know if its 1/2 or 1/4 now. like this : http://puu.sh/eWVFv.jpg Rotated and change a bit placement here.
8. 01:13:475 (3,4,5) - Space them further out. Fixed
9. 01:15:082 (3,4,5,6) - ^ Fixed
10. 01:28:796 (3,4,5,6) - ^ Fixed
11. 02:35:653 (3,4,5,6) - ^ Fixed
12. 02:37:368 (3,4,5,6) - ^ Fixed
13. 04:28:796 (3,4,5,6) - ^ Fixed
14. 02:52:046 (5) - The new combo should be here instead, remove at 02:52:475 (1) - Remove and changed
15. 03:57:135 (1,2,3,4) - RIP, the snapping on this is strange, let me get some checks on this one From your in-game discuss this,I decide to add a spinner here,changed

Gamu wrote:

Congrats~ :3
But i think drum-hitwhistle and normal-hitfinish has a big delay...sad ;w;
Please try to check this.

image

1. drum-hitwhistle has a delay of 10ms. Please fix this; alacat gave me an archive with delayless hitsounds, just unpack it [although only hitwhistle (and maybe hitfinish) really needs the fix]: http://puu.sh/fGY55/9bd96ce04e.zip
2. The timing is incorrect, you missed a signature change at 03:28:046. Add uninherited (red) offsets at:
   
   1. 03:28:046 with timing signature 3/4
   2. 03:53:760 with timing signature 4/4

1. 00:43:903 (2,3,4) - should be http://puu.sh/fH2qJ/cb0300bced.jpg,
2. 00:45:832 (4,1,2,3) - should turn to http://puu.sh/fH2xz/7490bb7d04.jpg,
3. 00:47:546 (5,6) - should become http://puu.sh/fH2Dh/03d3ce5310.jpg...