liangv587 wrote:

非常感谢，请教我音效啊

Kuuhaku wrote:

liangv587 wrote:

非常感谢，请教我音效啊

音效什么的完全就是凭感觉来啦……

Normal
01:04:154 (3) - 中间加上normal finish，这和前面也能对应上改了

01:09:815 (1) - 试试全部clap音效吧
而且01:09:815 (1,2,3,4) - 如果不嫌麻烦，可以加条绿线强调一下这里的音效，后面的02:40:382 (1,2,3,1) - 也一样
另外，02:40:382 (1,2,3) - 这里我觉得都用clap音效也是可以的，毕竟背景也是那种音效貌似这样太过复杂，没改

01:12:331 normal的副歌部分你没有像hard里那样沿用normal whistle音效呢
这么一来60%的音效就比较不那么好听到了呢，建议改成70或者更高，后面的副歌部分也是好吧

02:05:790 (2) - 尾部soft whistle是不错的这样太过了

02:08:306 (2) - 中间soft whistle音效似乎不错改了

04:03:559 这里的绿线应该前移，04:02:144 (2) - 这个的尾部音效似乎也需要减弱呢改了

04:12:207 (3) - 应该是强迫症病发，请加上soft whistle音效这样太过了


这里就是上面那个的后续啦，没想到你回复的这么快
本条和上面那条是一体的，无须再给kd

Nymph wrote:

大概看了下没什么问题 主要有2个建议把

1同上 难度间距还是略大了 确实在这个bpm这hard有点大半个insane了 所以最好还是有个更简单的hard 当然你说你懒了我也没话说 这个spread也勉强能过关的样子 被发现啦

2我觉得hitsound用的太硬了而且略吵 一直是normal虽然也能用 我个人更偏向插入一些软的whistle和鼓音 总之就是提供一个不同的思路这个会改

nokudosu

顺便我短期内不会recheck啥的因为我要还债先（

liuyiqiangbu wrote:

General

建议找个底鼓音效

我是默认党;w;

Hard

00:20:129 (2) - 这里去掉滑条然后在00:20:443 放一个圆圈如何？03:21:263 (2) - 同理
00:20:758 (4,5,6,7) - 又提到这里了..这里是dc dc df df dc dc df df（也就是所有的滑条头尾都有声音）。yes
00:27:676 (4) - add clapyes
00:35:695 (3,4) - 这里圆圈在滑条前面我觉得比较跟人声。
00:38:211 (3) - 这里也可以跟着上面改。
00:41:041 (7) - clapyes
00:47:173 (1) - 这里的finish比较奇怪，00:49:689 (2) - 同理
01:04:783 (6,7) - 有点冗余
01:10:287 - 这里可以空啊，02:41:011 同理
01:11:387 (1,2,3) - 建议滑条头+clap，也可以1+nc 2+dc 3+df ，02:52:017 (5,6,7) - 同理yes
01:14:375 (6) - no clapyes
01:22:079 (7,8,9) - 这里应该是8 9+clap，但是也可以7+dc 8 9+df，后面的01:42:205 (8,9) - 02:42:583 (2,3) - 03:32:899 (8,9) - 都这个一样yes
01:23:809 (5,6) - 和02:54:376 (5,6) - 这里5和6时间上还是倒一下？
01:32:142 (7,8) - 加dfyes
01:36:073 (3,4,5) - 这里的蓝线滑条有点别扭，http://puu.sh/c6MEi/6d09025b10.pngyes
01:51:797 (6) - 滑条头尾+dcyes
01:52:268 (8) - 滑条头尾+dfyes
03:01:609 (3,5,7,8,9) - 3 5+clap 7 8+dc 9+dfyes
03:21:892 (4,5,6,7) - 这个地方是nc dc df nc dc df ，4和6的滑条头nc，滑条尾dc，5和7的滑条头dfyes
03:31:798 (4) - 没跟鼓点也没跟人声，略奇怪yes
03:42:647 (6,7) - clap clap noclap clapyes

Normal

排列我也不好说，音效上面说过了

其实hard音效是以前加的，normal是最近加的，思路应该跟你差不多吧
我也喜欢这个歌！！ 祝rank！

AIR wrote:

hi

Easy

1. 00:23:273 (2,3) - 这两个地方同步一点可能不错，当然这样也没什么不好
2. 00:31:764 (4) - 根据前面整体感觉这根红线空出来比较合适，或者前面可以填一些空缺00:26:733 -
3. 02:03:275 (2) - 这根白线可以试下左面空缺，右面vocal比左边重
4. 04:05:289 - 转盘后时间太短，具体参考https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/241019
5. 04:10:320 - same

Normal

1. 00:49:689 - 看到这里我想说。。。虽然没什么问题但红线用有点多，有点hard的感觉，而且也显挤
2. 02:38:024 (1) - overmap
3. 03:01:609 (3,4) - same
4. 03:41:861 (3,4,5) - 真的不太好读
5. 03:44:848 (4,2) - overlap
6. 03:46:106 - 后面到转盘的这一部分感觉不错
7. 04:03:717 (1) - same as Easy

Hard

1. sv3.2，怪不得有点一个脑的感觉
2. 00:48:274 (5) - 这白线挺合适的，不建议刻意忽略掉去押前面的红线，起个1/2试试
3. 01:03:211 (1,2) - 往前1/2
4. 01:51:325 - 神挡，扩散点咋样
5. 02:18:841 (5) - same

hao支持ding

1. Add "november's chopin malt candy" to tags.
2. Since your storyboard have widescreen support enabled try to find 16:9 BG size not 4:3.
3. Timing: you must get timing check, from what I hear this song probably will need multiple uninherit sections.
4. Consider to lower volume for your hs, it's sounds too loud atm.
5. ^Well… yep, hitsound part here need more work.

1. Check and fix DS over this diff, it tends to change at random from time to time

1. Overall this diff should be a bit nerfed, atm it's more like hard with lower AR and more regular spacing.
2. ^ e.g. patterns like 02:21:671 (3,1,2,3,4) - definitely not normal level
3. Also there is a ton of off-beat sliders which is usually hard to play\understand for normal level players.

1. 00:13:368 (6,7) - Ctrl + G will follow strings part better. Alternatively you can swap slider with 00:13:210 (5)
2. ^ Also applies to:
   00:15:883 (6,7) // 00:18:399 (6,7) // 00:23:116 (3,4) // 00:25:475 (3,4) // 00:28:148 (5,6) // 00:29:563 (1,2) // Well almost all your sliders start on blue ticks in instrumental parts snapped nothing to music, misses strings start and wrong to rhythmic. You can get some tips from p/3348550
3. 00:27:519 (3) - Snapped to nothing in music
4. 00:40:569 (5,6) - If you unstack this from 00:39:626 (3) - it would be much easier to read visually and more consistent to overall difficulty.
5. From 00:51:576 (1) to 01:11:073 (4) you've decreased SV here, so there is small 1\2 overlaps all over this part, if you increase your standard DS between objects to 1.25x - 1.3x this will drastically improve aesthetics for this part. Applies to all parts with lower SV.
6. Because of density of objects on this diff, normal-hitnormal sounds too heavy, consider to alter this from time to time.

Sieg wrote:

Hi

[General]

1. Add "november's chopin malt candy" to tags. ok
2. Since your storyboard have widescreen support enabled try to find 16:9 BG size not 4:3.widescreen support removed
3. Timing: you must get timing check, from what I hear this song probably will need multiple uninherit sections.
4. Consider to lower volume for your hs, it's sounds too loud atm.add NC2
5. ^Well… yep, hitsound part here need more work.

[Easy]

1. Check and fix DS over this diff, it tends to change at random from time to time

[Normal]

1. Overall this diff should be a bit nerfed, atm it's more like hard with lower AR and more regular spacing.
2. ^ e.g. patterns like 02:21:671 (3,1,2,3,4) - definitely not normal level
3. Also there is a ton of off-beat sliders which is usually hard to play\understand for normal level players.

[Hard]

1. 00:13:368 (6,7) - Ctrl + G will follow strings part better. Alternatively you can swap slider with 00:13:210 (5)all fixed
2. ^ Also applies to:
   00:15:883 (6,7) // 00:18:399 (6,7) // 00:23:116 (3,4) // 00:25:475 (3,4) // 00:28:148 (5,6) // 00:29:563 (1,2) // Well almost all your sliders start on blue ticks in instrumental parts snapped nothing to music, misses strings start and wrong to rhythmic. You can get some tips from p/3348550
3. 00:27:519 (3) - Snapped to nothing in music
4. 00:40:569 (5,6) - If you unstack this from 00:39:626 (3) - it would be much easier to read visually and more consistent to overall difficulty.ok
5. From 00:51:576 (1) to 01:11:073 (4) you've decreased SV here, so there is small 1\2 overlaps all over this part, if you increase your standard DS between objects to 1.25x - 1.3x this will drastically improve aesthetics for this part. Applies to all parts with lower SV. ok
6. Because of density of objects on this diff, normal-hitnormal sounds too heavy, consider to alter this from time to time.

Nice song. Good Luck!

smallboat wrote:

[General]

Fine,just confirm,are you sure the metadata no problem?

[Easy]

00:14:468 (1,2) - Distance keep 1.20x better.
00:18:242 (2) - The same as above
00:22:016 (1) - The same as above
00:24:531 (1) - Same (Won't comment this anymore,I still look many consistent distance there,suggest to fix it)all fixed except 00:30:821 (3) - 02:28:432 (2) -
00:25:789 (3) - The slider end overlap the board need to move a bit to do fix.没有吧，离边界都还有3格呢
01:52:897 (1) - The spinner head place so weird,cuz the downbeat at 01:52:583 here,so suggest change this rhythmOK :

SPOILER

02:05:790 (2) - Missed clap in headOK
02:40:382 (1) - Missed clap in endOK

[Normal] 好像Hard卻又不像Hard，好難的Normal diff。(normal用了好多1/4感覺要被噴)

00:43:714 (4) - Missed clap in endOK
01:03:683 (2) - 建議這兩個人聲換成2個note，因為這兩個vocal都唱得蠻重的，用滑條尾來壓音不太適合。(後面那一個滑條可不用)
01:06:199 (2) - The same as above这种没改
01:08:400 (2,3) - 這邊藍線緊跟紅線的節奏有點weird，不如改成像前面這樣 这种没改:

SPOILER

01:26:010 (2) - 滑條前後都沒音為何要放? 建議只要改白線note就好，打得比較好。这种改了
01:28:526 (2) - 同上
01:46:136 (2) - 同上
01:48:652 (2) - 同上 (後面也有類似例子建議改了，kiai同樣的部分。)
01:50:696 (2,3,4,5,6) - 這個也跟的好奇筢，建議是改成這樣，normal的節奏大部分都是1/2和1/1的分布改了:

SPOILER

02:08:306 (2) - 中間滑條沒音效OK
02:34:250 (2) - 同01:08:400 (2,3)
02:36:766 (2) - 同上 (後面一些類似部分也是)
02:40:382 (1) - Missed clap in endOK
02:56:892 (2) - 去掉壓中間紅線
02:59:093 (2) - 應該知道我講什麼
03:28:181 (6) - Missed finishOK
03:37:615 (4) - Missed finishOK
03:50:194 (4) - Missed finish in end我觉得没必要吧，2小节finish

這diff的kiai節奏跟的不是很好，建議還是照上面的改一點，才不會又被挑1/4節奏的JB。(尤其是03:16:703 (2) - 這種)


[Insane]

00:51:576 (1) - No necessary do a single NC here,sounds like has no specail tune there. OK
01:00:853 (5) - Seems this rhythm so weird,because the slider head no vocal there,and the heavy at end play so strange, suggest change a note at 01:01:010 (5) . OK
01:51:639 (1,1) - NC spam,this the same song words,no necessary do the single NC.OK
02:11:451 (6) - Missed finishOK
02:13:652 (5,6) - Why not use 02:14:281 (7,8,9) - this rhythm to follow the vocal? Looks like cool better.OK
02:42:426 (1) - The same as 01:51:639.OK
03:14:659 (5) - Missed whistle
03:32:270 (5) - Missed whistle没改，其他都加没加，这2个加不太系统
03:41:861 (3) - Missed finish in endOK

3個diff中就只有Normal作的不是很好，其他都還好，修完再找我
其實還有一個方法就是把難度改成NHI (因為原本的Normal改成Hard，這樣放1/4節奏就應該合理了)好

Heterozygous wrote:

Random suggestions from random dude lol.
Not so many songs are nice and slow here in osu, so nice try for mapping this.

[General]

1. Make sure you add "11月的蕭邦" and "November's Chopin" into tag, and remove "Chopin in November". ok
   The English title does sound ridiculously amateur, but these are the album names that were officially issued, so you need to tag it as what they are.
   Link: http://www.jvrmusic.com/artist/work-album_full.asp?id=26&artistid=1
   
2. Likewise, artist and song title should be "周杰倫" and " 麥芽糖" respectively, unless the conversion to simplified Chinese is proved to be officially recognized.
   If there is no official conversion, you can put the simplified Chinese artist and title into tags for easier search.why not adding them to the tags? the title and artist are really simplified Chinese
   Link: http://music.douban.com/subject/1436975/
   
3. Are you sure you wanna remove the easy diff? If you do, then you need another diff with less than 2.00 stars.the normal is 1.96
   
4. Picking on your storyboard would be too badass so I decided not to do it lol.

[Diff specific]
After some plays on all the diffs I feel like I really can't give any helpful suggestion on the current mapset... so I think I'll shoot a star instead.

[Something further I'd like to mention...]

1. 01:27:740 - 01:32:142 - There's a subtle change of the vocal in this part of chorus in this song, noticing this change in the song and apply some different mapping style here would be very interesting, and it will fit the music. Next time you can take advantage of this kind of setup in the music when you map.
   
2. From this mapset I think you really need to work on the rhythm, and be aware of how the players will hit the keys at certain points of time. For now the way that you place notes doesn't make much sense, especially on easier diffs.
   Seriously didn't you just used Ar3sgice's beatmap generator for the normal in this mapset?

I guess that's all for now.
No kd plz. I didn't really help in making this mapset better.
If you find anything that you don't know what the hell I'm talking about, feel free to reply to me and I'll try to make it clear.

liangv587 wrote:

Heterozygous wrote:

Likewise, artist and song title should be "周杰倫" and " 麥芽糖" respectively, unless the conversion to simplified Chinese is proved to be officially recognized.
If there is no official conversion, you can put the simplified Chinese artist and title into tags for easier search.why not adding them to the tags? the title and artist are really simplified Chinese
Link: http://music.douban.com/subject/1436975/

liangv587 wrote:

Heterozygous wrote:

Are you sure you wanna remove the easy diff? If you do, then you need another diff with less than 2.00 stars.the normal is 1.96

liangv587 wrote:

thank you sir. v?

ARPG wrote:

船业你不怕被扣分吗？这都泡
NH差距不到0.4 HI 的差距足足1.1 不得不服阿
i think the gap between HI is TOO MUCH bigger than NH

Desperate-kun wrote:

I really love your mapping, but sadly I need to pop the bubble, because the difficulty spread needs some work.

[Normal]

00:31:764 (4,1,2) - Spacing error
01:23:652 (2,3) - ^
02:57:049 (2,1) - ^

[Hard]

Your difficulty spread needs work. The gap between Normal and Hard is much lower than the one between Hard and Insane. The problem is only the Slider Velocity: 1.6 -> 2.0 -> 3.2 is a very weird spread. In order to make this rankable, you need to:

1. Set a higher Slider Velocity the Hard with a higher Slider Velocity, perferably ~2.3
2. After changing the Slider Velocity, it seems to work well, but your spacing will now be too low. If you would use ~1.1x Distance Snap the spread with Normal and Insane would improve a lot. Just be sure that 1/4-objects still touch each other, because it would be too difficult for Hard if they have gaps in between.

00:44:657 (1,2) - It seems weird to have lower spacing here, but since you will probably remap / rearrange you will notice yourself
01:06:827 (3,1) - Your rhythm doesn't sound good here... Try this: http://puu.sh/dI9aD/bfe7d03e2e.jpg
02:37:394 (3,1) - ^

[Insane]

Perfect.

As you can see, your diff have almost no issues, it's just the spread >< But it's really obvious if you look at Star Rating for example, and also from how the diffs feel, so you need to change it in order to make this mapset rankable. Call me when the issues are fixed~

Desperate-kun wrote:

Modding the remapped Hard diff. Since rhythm and hitsound didn't change it won't need many mods anymore, but atleast I'll drop some suggestions.

[Hard]

00:13:210 (3,4) - Curve these sliders a bit more to get a nice blanket with 00:12:896 (2,3) - ?fixed http://puu.sh/dLuPy/ec47045642.jpg
00:27:676 (3,4,5) - The triplet's spacing is a bit messed up - Also, I'd place the circle left instead for a more smooth movement in Hard diff: fixedhttp://puu.sh/dLuVW/f86b870af6.jpg
01:27:111 (5) - Maybe you could replace this slider with two circles? At the moment you have the slidertail at the downbeat, which feels a bit weird, since the downbeat is really stressed in the music it don't have to change to two circles. it plays well. and there are several places like this. they all play well
02:49:816 (1,2,3) - The spacing is weird here. Move (3) so the spacing is correct? fixedhttp://puu.sh/dLvmX/dc529fa8d9.jpg
02:51:074 (1) - I'd curve this slider differently, so the flow is better imo:fixed http://puu.sh/dLvq1/58dfe77ac2.jpg
02:55:477 (6,1) - Spacing is too low here as well, I think it's not intentional.fixed
03:20:949 (2,3) - Again, too low spacing.fixed

liangv587 wrote:

Heterozygous wrote:

Likewise, artist and song title should be "周杰倫" and " 麥芽糖" respectively, unless the conversion to simplified Chinese is proved to be officially recognized.
If there is no official conversion, you can put the simplified Chinese artist and title into tags for easier search.why not adding them to the tags? the title and artist are really simplified Chinese
Link: http://music.douban.com/subject/1436975/

Fycho wrote:

Hello, I talked with Atrue, we agreed that the singer and song is from Taiwan, so artist and song's title should be writtern in Traditional chinese not simplfied chinese.

Artist: 周杰倫
Title: 麥芽糖

and move original artist/title to tags, add "Chou Chieh Lun" to tags
Romanised artist/title is fine.


some proof from the scan of the album: http://puu.sh/dMq8W/0a3955d521.jpg
http://puu.sh/dMqa3/6ff0835aa2.jpg

If possible, change all the lyric in storyboard to traditional chinese too(to keep the consistency with title/artist).

and I don't know if we should keep the Tail language original "ผมรักคุณ” or "สวัสดี" not just ”Phom rak khun“ or ”Sa wad dii kah“
, maybe ask someone who knows tail.

That's all I guess

Rakuen wrote:

Requested to check by creator

Qualified