Changes have been made, not sure if I should have Sakura rebubble as I self popped is that even allowed?
Thank you again!!-Bakari- wrote:
00:37:287 (3) I don't see why this part is unstressed as there is a slider here - the problem is that the stong beat (on the white tick) is unclickable, so, players don't feel like it is emphasized enough Changed this part
03:21:921 (1) it becomes a very short spinner, maybe too short for a Normal... Maybe I have to delete this spinner and add a very long slider?... the long slider will do great o/Mapped this part with more than a simple long slider
00:37:287 (3) - 00:37:287 (3) - 00:37:287 (3) - this one leaves the beginning of kiai unstressed ... It's the same time 3 times o-o") 00:47:775 - 00:49:726 - 00:51:677 - sorry, didn't notice that the copypaste hadn't worked correctly "."Changed the 3 places
I guess we've made it more clear and that's should be it. Once you're done with the changes, feel free to call Sakura back for the rebubble!
Good luck with the map!
Aw yeah :B1:ztrot wrote:
now it is gonna happen coldtooth!
21:09 Lust: heya ztrot
21:09 *Lust is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/352685 Owl City - Embers [Hard]]
21:09 Lust: are you ready for me to go over your map
21:09 ztrot: yeag
21:10 Lust: alright, i highly recommend you change this to OD7, there are certain patterns such as 00:16:555 (4,5,6) - where the spacing is quite large and the rhythm is unclear (players aren't going to expect the circle on the blue tick at first for instance)
21:10 Lust: switching it to OD7 will allow for a bit more leniency when it comes to those particular patterns
21:11 Lust: i dont want you to modify any of them since they are well made
21:12 ztrot: lol I had just changed it to od 8
21:12 ztrot: but yeah tbh I liked it better as od7
21:12 Lust: 03:16:067 (1,2,3) - i know what you are trying to do here in regards with the rhythm, but throughout the majority of the song you followed the vocals (had the circle on the blue tick)
21:13 Lust: this shorter spacing but with different rhythm is a pretty difficult thing to pick up, i had quite a bit of an issue going through a couple of times reading it
21:14 ztrot: it is consistent tho
21:15 ztrot: 01:11:189 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - does the same thing
21:15 ztrot: the one you are pointing out in the latter is the same pattern just change around so it isn't just copy paste
21:16 Lust: the thing is with that pattern the spacing is enlarged so therefore it takes longer to reach the circles making it easier to get the rhythm down
21:17 ztrot: would this be okay for a fix? http://puu.sh/dr2YB/3897d505d3.jpg
21:18 Lust: could you update it so i can have a look?
21:18 ztrot: sure
21:18 Lust: looks like it would be fine, but i need to make sure
21:19 ztrot: give it a look now
21:19 Lust: much better
21:20 ztrot: I like the change too because it makes a nice pattern
21:20 Lust: 03:22:897 (1,2) - for these two, instead of the normal whistle which kinda sticks out like a sore thumb how about having a drum hitclap on both of the slider heads
21:21 Lust: i think it would fit a lot better, you can lower the volume of them with green lines if you think they are loud
21:21 ztrot: it shouldn't be a normal whistle
21:21 ztrot: I have a custom set on this
21:21 ztrot: do you have hitsounds on overide?
21:22 Lust: ah excuse me
21:22 Lust: i didnt mean normal whistle i meant
21:22 Lust: the whistle thats on there now
21:22 Lust: haha
Thank you for moddingLust wrote:
Just some thoughts on the normal
[Minao's Normal]Call me back!
- 00:50:945 (1) - Is the whistle on this slider body intentional? If so I highly recommend you remove it as it does not really fit the music well Removed
- 01:24:604 (7) - The movement on this slider feels unnatural in comparison to the rest of the patterns you have set due to that sharp curve, I highly recommend you have the curve go the other way so it flows better Changed
- 01:57:775 (1) - Kiai time starting in the middle of a slider? Yea not quite a good idea. There is a strong beat there, please try and use a rhythm similar to the one you had in the beginning of the kiai - it is way more clear and fun in comparison Changed
- 02:31:189 (1) - Another weird sounding whistle on the slider body Fixed
- 03:05:336 (3) - ^ Fixed
- 03:36:555 (2) - ^ Fixed
4 days later...ztrot wrote:
updated, hope to hear from lust soon
Well guess at least he got back huh?Lust wrote:
Everything looks good to me, Qualified!
Why did you tone down Normal in the first place? :<Minao wrote:
So... All the changes we made to the Normal to simplify it was pointless?
That's not true. On the contrary, we did increase overall rhythm density and reworked just some unpleasant to play overlaps. This normal is top notch. (as normal ofc, not 2.5 SR Hard)Sakura wrote:
Why did you tone down Normal in the first place? :<Minao wrote:
So... All the changes we made to the Normal to simplify it was pointless?
you sit tight buddy your diff is perfect I'll add another to even out the set.Minao wrote:
So... All the changes we made to the Normal to simplify it was pointless? I'm not blaming anybody, I'm just disapointed that all the work on it didn't help this beatmap to be ranked...
Ztrot, I'm waiting for your opinion on it to know what i'm supposed to do with this diff now...
14:04 Lust: howdy
14:04 ztrot: hello
14:04 *Lust is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/566515 Owl City - Embers [Medium]]
14:05 Lust: i recommend ar6.5, fits the patterns you set for the majority of the diff as well as sits well in the spread
14:06 ztrot: okay
14:06 ztrot: I can do that
14:06 Lust: 00:19:970 (2,3) - id recommend you space these two out a bit, the rhythm here changes and an anti-jump pattern like the one you have right now could be a bit confusing and hard to read
14:09 ztrot: this enough?
14:09 ztrot: v
14:09 ztrot: http://puu.sh/dMLkZ/1b370b6bb1.jpg
14:13 Lust: ehhh maybe a little more
14:13 Lust: somewhere around 1.1x spaced out
14:14 ztrot: that will make it too simple
14:14 ztrot: this has to be a bit harder to read than normal
14:14 ztrot: or the whole map is moot
14:15 ztrot: but i did something
14:15 ztrot: will show you when i submit I think you will be happy with it
14:17 Lust: 00:35:092 (5,1) - i know what you were trying to do here and I think its pretty cool, but i'd recommend you space the circles out evenly - the rhythm is the same for the most part and i think it would make for a more logical pattern if they were consistent
14:21 Lust: 01:33:872 (1) - remove the NC here and add it to 01:34:604 (4) -, afterwards remove the NC from 01:36:068 (1) - and add it to 01:36:555 (2) -, finally remove the NC from 01:37:775 (1) - and add it to 01:38:507 (4) -
14:21 Lust: should follow the song nicer
14:22 ztrot: alright
14:22 Lust: update it and i'll have a recheck
14:23 ztrot: I also adjusted a few other things
14:23 ztrot: to make it a tad less repetive
14:23 ztrot: as this is only made to fill requirements
14:23 Lust: could you tell me what they are? they need to be in the log so there arent any undocumented changes
14:24 ztrot: sure
14:24 Lust: kinda sucks but meh its just a formality
14:24 ztrot: 01:41:677 (1,2,3) - added curves to not be copy paste
14:25 ztrot: 02:05:824 (2,3) - fixed blanket
14:25 ztrot: 02:25:336 (1,2) - same song and dance here
14:25 ztrot: fixed blanket
14:26 ztrot: I hope you find my compromises with the spacing to be acceptable
14:26 ztrot: on the parts you gave concern to
14:26 Lust: updated?
14:26 ztrot: yeah