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Marcin
Russian Federation 	5	6	South Korea 	http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10799208
Japan 6 0 Ukraine https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10800808
Sweden 3 6 Taiwan https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10801986
Netherlands 6 0 China https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10803221
plaatinum
Teams left:

Americas: 1
Europe: 4 7
Asia: 3 4
Synchrostar
Rematch vs Japan tomorrow

it's going to be last year all over again
[ yogurt ]

Marcin wrote:

Netherlands 	6	0	China 	https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10803221
Holy shit, that's super scary. Congrats Dutchies.

Makan1
tmrw will be exciting. wp to all
silmarilen

Synchrostar wrote:

Rematch vs Japan tomorrow

it's going to be last year all over again
revenge time you mean
Makan1
:D you think nl stands a chance. cute.
FlyingKiwi

Post Scriptum wrote:

There was no reason to add loser's bracket for this cup. Loser's bracket must define winners more accurately (1st, 2nd, 3rd places). But nothing can to be defined accurately since permanently disconnectes ruin owc. There are too many random. This OWC can not be legit.

P.S. I guess, korean team is stronger, than russian team, but last match Russia-Korea is just dc roulette, nothing else. Random > skill difference.
I know, that one definitely needed a rematch. I wish we could do this tournament in a stadium or something... :?
Friek555
Hey guys,
will anyone be recording the half-finals / finals and upload them to youtube?
Right now it's pretty impossible to watch the matches for peolple who can't be there live.
buny

Friek555 wrote:

Hey guys,
will anyone be recording the half-finals / finals and upload them to youtube?
Right now it's pretty impossible to watch the matches for peolple who can't be there live.
they are saved for awhile on twitch
Bauxe

Friek555 wrote:

Hey guys,
will anyone be recording the half-finals / finals and upload them to youtube?
Right now it's pretty impossible to watch the matches for peolple who can't be there live.
It's not impossible at all...

http://www.twitch.tv/osulive/profile/past_broadcasts
B1rd
I wish we could get that OWC logo come up in on the menu screen everytime it is being streamed.
xAsylum
This Korea vs Taiwan game HOLY SHIT! What an amazing game! So freaking intense, Sayonara did amazing job getting FC, but I feel really sad for Small K cuz he slider breaked :(
KRZY
Hey guys I found out I just got listed on the thesaurus



I'm joking about the Polish team plz no hate ;_;
B1rd
who won Taiwan vs Korea?
[-Cloud-]
Korea with the Tiebreaker.
B1rd
if only they had Rucker...
[-Cloud-]

B1rd wrote:

if only they had Rucker hvick...
FTFY
Kert
Next time please don't let osu! client EVER SUDDENLY go back to main menu or whatever while playing a multiplayer match or waiting for results there
It could have been a better thing than triangles.
B1rd

[-Cloud-] wrote:

B1rd wrote:

if only they had Rucker hvick...
FTFY
Rucker>hvick

wait what the hell happened to Rucker????

..Taiwan for OWC dream dead
-JaZe-

B1rd wrote:

wait what the hell happened to Rucker
he wasn't allowed to play in the OWC :(
https://osu.ppy.sh/u/A2R

KRZY wrote:

Hey guys I found out I just got listed on the thesaurus



I'm joking about the Polish team plz no hate ;_;
KRZY pls I believe in you

just imagine onodera cheering you on
Darksonic
Japan 6:4 Netherlands

https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10829960

Awesomeee and exciting match! the comeback was pretty close.
silmarilen
rip netherlands

finals next year
Synchrostar

silmarilen wrote:

rip netherlands

finals next year
top 16 last year
top 8 this year
top 4 next year
win owc in three years?
Cyclohexane
NL still the only european team to make the OWC finals :p
kuur0

Synchrostar wrote:

silmarilen wrote:

rip netherlands

finals next year
top 16 last year
top 8 this year
top 4 next year
win owc in three years?
you guys can do it \o/
silmarilen

Mr Color wrote:

NL still the only european team to make the OWC finals :p
2010
never forget
Makan1


when did this happen? O.o
Garpo
Only 1 SS in that match by Kyshiro on Arc..
Morurc
Germany with another tiebreaker of course.

TOM94 GOD DAMN.

Jetzu
Tom94 with his 3rd best performance live, on stream, in a semi-final tiebreaker :O

Nathan
My god Tom94
rzkadi
#EatAShoe
deadbeat
Chocorock
Rank #2 for the map, just like that
Doomsday
Just hopping on the Tom94 hype train

Cherry Blossom
My maps have killed enough people.
Nice Tom !!! :D
Pacemaker
*Sterrum gets the best score of the round*

"WWW HYPE CARRY SO PRO OMGGGGGG"
Tom94

Jetzu wrote:

Tom94 with his 3rd best performance live, on stream, in a semi-final tiebreaker :O

I never attempted in any way to gain pp on this account, so it's a given that it increases with random plays where I actually try hard. :P
Morurc

Pacemaker wrote:

*Sterrum gets the best score of the round*

"WWW HYPE CARRY SO PRO OMGGGGGG"
Alas, that's just the way it goes I guess. Especially in an environment like Twitch chat..
Cherry Blossom
Just because this map is overrated and you can earn a lot of PP.
6 stars please, what a joke x)
Andrea
Results
South Korea 6-5 Taiwan
Japan 6-4 Netherlands
Germany 6-5 Austria
United States 0-6 Poland

Great matches today, really.
Xayne
I feel slightly less free today.
rzkadi
wtf is this poland 2 stronk, all of the players did a really good job almost on every maps
Bass
talalea
I think OWC 2nd and 3rd place players should get badge too

OWC's second and third place players should get badge too, It's always 1st place players who gets the badge on their user page. And the 2nd and 3rd players doesn't get anything except few support months

But people will forget who placed in 2nd or 3rd place as time goes because there's nothing that shows who got which place stuff. Like the first and second OWC.
We know Taiwan won first OWC and Korea Second. But anybody know which country got 3rd place? Some poeple might know but not many people really know about 2nd and 3rd place countries. Plus, there's no wiki for first and second OWC.

And it's too sad that they achieved 2nd 3rd place so hard and only few people will remember them, and eventually, forget 2nd, 3rd players.
So they should be rewarded badges too, for their hard work and effort-making it to 2nd and 3rd place. Like Olympic. You know, they have gold medal, silver medal, and bronze medal for each 1st place, 2nd place, and 3rd place. So if tournament staff make 2nd place and 3rd place badge, it will surely look good on them, and they will be somewhat satisfied that they can actually get something from becoming 2nd and 3rd place, and they got something people can see and remember. They should be praised too.
Te Amo
I mean I knew we werent going to win... But I really had hope deep down inside, and losing like this, 6-0 has made me extremely depressed. I pity those that go against Poland, they're absolutely monsters, dominating over everyone and everything. GGWP
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jK, Usa lost on purpose, didn't want to make every Poland fanboy cry.
AmaiHachimitsu

talalea wrote:

I think OWC 2nd and 3rd place players should get badge too

OWC's second and third place players should get badge too, It's always 1st place players who gets the badge on their user page. And the 2nd and 3rd players doesn't get anything except few support months

But people will forget who placed in 2nd or 3rd place as time goes because there's nothing that shows who got which place stuff. Like the first and second OWC.
We know Taiwan won first OWC and Korea Second. But anybody know which country got 3rd place? Some poeple might know but not many people really know about 2nd and 3rd place countries. Plus, there's no wiki for first and second OWC.

And it's too sad that they achieved 2nd 3rd place so hard and only few people will remember them, and eventually, forget 2nd, 3rd players.
So they should be rewarded badges too, for their hard work and effort-making it to 2nd and 3rd place. Like Olympic. You know, they have gold medal, silver medal, and bronze medal for each 1st place, 2nd place, and 3rd place. So if tournament staff make 2nd place and 3rd place badge, it will surely look good on them, and they will be somewhat satisfied that they can actually get something from becoming 2nd and 3rd place, and they got something people can see and remember. They should be praised too.

I've been arguing on this topic last year, too.

But well, it's not that this tournament is made for players
sables

Bass wrote:


pls
>mfw
Friek555
Damn I wanna see Austria vs Germany
Someone please tell me you recorded it. Pretty please.
I think there should be an osu! world cup YouTube channel
Morurc

Friek555 wrote:

Damn I wanna see Austria vs Germany
Someone please tell me you recorded it. Pretty please.
I think there should be an osu! world cup YouTube channel
All Twitch live streams are recorded as vods, as far as I know. :D
Tshemmp

Friek555 wrote:

Damn I wanna see Austria vs Germany
Someone please tell me you recorded it. Pretty please.
I think there should be an osu! world cup YouTube channel
http://www.twitch.tv/osulive/b/594341854
Topic Starter
Loctav
Schedule is out (mother of god)
KRZY
>potential US vs Korea match

This probably was a killer to schedule huh
Te Amo
Korea is ezpz
Cola
As this year's OWC is nearly done i would want to give some feedback from how i have expierienced this tournament as a viewer and what i think was done good/bad and what other options there are to improve it for next year.

Good Stuff: I'm kinda happy that some of the points that have been discussed have been adressed this year. Fake misses were nearly eliminated. Twitch chat rules have gotten a lot more reasonable. Players were handled more respectfully after a certain incident. Commentators seem to have gotten quite a bit better since the start of the tournament. Mapsets were chosen really carefully, and were really good, maybe with the exception of group stages being too easy. Loser's bracket was introduced making it less possible on some random DC to effect to whole tournament really harshly.

What i think could still be changed:

DC's: How about, since OWC is handled on a different server anyways, as i understood it, if a player disconnects, his play wont be aborted and his score will be counted toward the multi-lobby after he finishes his map, no matter if he stayed connected the entire song? Idk how possible this is, but it would get rid of this issue entirely and no unfair wins would occur.

Twitch chat: While the moderation has gone down a lot, maybe let us say those pesky banned words, theres no real reason not to imo. At least put the chat rules somewhere in the streamdecription :D

Schedule: While i understand that 1 Hour seems like a good time interval for matches, it might be too tight to make it comfortably. The other match probably has not ended by then, so players had been pressured for it to hurry up while making their choices. Making it 1.5 Hours or even 2 until the next match starts would get rid of this and this should easily be doable after group stages.

Stream Quality: Maybe you could try applying for a sub button on twitch, so quality options are permanently unlocked? Also make sure the internet connection you are hosting the stream from is stable and strong enough, which sometimes didn't seem that way (i noticed frame drops and such, that were not related with twitch or my own internet connection).

Commentators: Be more courageous to talk! Come on, people just want to hear a voice that is confident in talking, not a shaky voice from someone who is uncertain :D I know you guys can do it, some of you run their own streams and do it well there aswell. So don't be shy or so. Long pauses are just akward for everyone involved. I think you also gotten better at this throughout the tournament as stated earlier.

Stream description: The info below the stream is as minimalistic as it gets. Put some more useful info into it.

Alright im done, take from it what you want and at least give it a thought ;D
Cyclohexane

Loctav wrote:

Schedule is out (mother of god)
>JP vs US
>7am my time

[sleep deprivation intensifies]
cptnXn

Mr Color wrote:

NL still the only european team to make the OWC finals :p
not anymore, we just don't know yet if its Tommany or WWWLand
Synchrostar

cptnXn wrote:

Mr Color wrote:

NL still the only european team to make the OWC finals :p
not anymore, we just don't know yet if its Tommany or WWWLand
shit, should've beaten you when we had the chance
manjumochi

Mr Color wrote:

Loctav wrote:

Schedule is out (mother of god)
>JP vs US
>7am my time

[sleep deprivation intensifies]
At my time would be 4am...
TheLukay

Tshemmp wrote:

Friek555 wrote:

Damn I wanna see Austria vs Germany
Someone please tell me you recorded it. Pretty please.
I think there should be an osu! world cup YouTube channel
http://www.twitch.tv/osulive/b/594341854
I'll save this forever XD
Bauxe

TheLukay wrote:

I'll save this forever XD
Except that twitch save vods for like 2 weeks. You might want to download it.
Marcin

Cola wrote:

after group stages.

Stream Quality: Maybe you could try applying for a sub button on twitch, No, no, no, that imposes more ads than already are present, we are considering moving to another streaming service for next wc though.

so quality options are permanently unlocked? twitch were Di--...Douches, seriously,

Also make sure the internet connection you are hosting the stream from is stable and strong enough, it is hosted from connection that is at least 100 mb/s synchronous.

which sometimes didn't seem that way (i noticed frame drops and such, that were not related with Frame drops were happening in early stages (before semi-finals but after group stage.), yes, but other than that it was either twitch or your internet (betting on twitch, holy shit i can't watch my own streamed content

Stream description: The info below the stream is as minimalistic as it gets. Put some more useful info into it.none looks at it anyway q.q
Bauxe

Marcin wrote:

Cola wrote:

after group stages.

Stream Quality: Maybe you could try applying for a sub button on twitch, No, no, no, that imposes more ads than already are present, we are considering moving to another streaming service for next wc though.

so quality options are permanently unlocked? twitch were Di--...Douches, seriously,

Also make sure the internet connection you are hosting the stream from is stable and strong enough, it is hosted from connection that is at least 100 mb/s synchronous.

which sometimes didn't seem that way (i noticed frame drops and such, that were not related with Frame drops were happening in early stages (before semi-finals but after group stage.), yes, but other than that it was either twitch or your internet (betting on twitch, holy shit i can't watch my own streamed content

Stream description: The info below the stream is as minimalistic as it gets. Put some more useful info into it.none looks at it anyway q.q
Extra ads only roll if you choose to roll them. Which of course, would be completely unnecessary.

Also a lot of people look at the description.
KRZY
hitbox is the way to go
Vuelo Eluko

KRZY wrote:

hitbox is the way to go
dailymotion*
xasuma
Last 2 videos are impossible to download through twitch tools: http://puu.sh/dfX0W/cd5974504c.png
The next 2 videos are loading a 2:20 minute long video.

As I have been working to get all the OWC on youtube, this is major drawback.
Anyone who has the raw video files please contact me.
Bauxe

xasuma wrote:

Last 2 videos are impossible to download through twitch tools: http://puu.sh/dfX0W/cd5974504c.png
The next 2 videos are loading a 2:20 minute long video.

As I have been working to get all the OWC on youtube, this is major drawback.
Anyone who has the raw video files please contact me.


If you mean these ones:

Maus
https://osu.ppy.sh/p/pp/?c=NE&m=0
Niger will win. Give up Poland, Korea, Japan, Taiwan. Pls, you stand no chance
Yukiteru Amano

Maus wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/p/pp/?c=NE&m=0
Niger will win. Give up Poland, Korea, Japan, Taiwan. Pls, you stand no chance
Not even enough users to have a team xd
xasuma
what about these 2 videos?



anyone able to watch them/download them?
zyvik_old

xasuma wrote:

what about these 2 videos?



anyone able to watch them/download them?
Go to Twitch tools and use links:
http://www.twitch.tv/osulive/b/594261463 (3 hours)
http://www.twitch.tv/osulive/b/593886584 (4 hours)

It seems to work for me. (If you still have any problems with this I can download and upload it during weekend).
xasuma
Thank you very much. I have no idea why mine was forwarding the videos to a different url. But thanks to your links I ll be able to work with them now. thanks a lot :D
fartownik
So, I've taken some time and prepared some advanced statistics for Poland's performance during OWC.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

Note that this is purely judgmental, counted manually map by map. There might be slight mistakes, but it's just for fun, though I always wanted the OWC official stats to look like this.

There's a better view of the scoreboards in another sheet at the bottom of the drive menu, you can sort the scoreboard by values there.

If you have any suggestions feel free to speak.
Tokiwadai
WWW MVP
AmaiHachimitsu
It took him 1 hour and is really well done and, what's the most important, it's interesting to read.

On the other hand, Marcin has done nothing.

Pick people who aren't "busy" next time, peppy. Actually those kinds of one-team focused stats could be done by a group of people, each for one/two teams.
nya10
I would agree with this.
It is less interesting that you can't see which map is banned during the tournament, except when you're in twitch (maybe, I never streaming at there lol).
And also at least something map statistics should have been done (not about little girl and stuff lol)
[-Cloud-]
It's ridiculous how JP vs KR is getting hyped as the topmatch of the entire OWC by commentators, while Poland is destroying every opponent they get. I could understand it, if KR would play with their strongest players or it would be JP vs PL, but KR vs JP? Meh.
deadbeat
japan and korea have always been strong teams in the OWC. it's only natural that people go nuts when they end up face each other
AmaiHachimitsu
Real vs FCB will be a Gran Derbi regardless of the teams' shape and roster.

nya10 wrote:

I would agree with this.
It is less interesting that you can't see which map is banned during the tournament, except when you're in twitch (maybe, I never streaming at there lol).
And also at least something map statistics should have been done (not about little girl and stuff lol)
Marcin is doing the streaming and I've no idea what they put him in charge of statistics.

In this case virtually anyone would do better (he/she would do something at least).
[-Cloud-]
So JP just took 2 times HR and 2 times HDHR on Supernova. Cold as ice.
Pacemaker
Jesus christ, this kind of commentator is the sole reason I had to watch the whole mania world cup on perma mute. No offense, it's just really annoying to listen to, especially when the mic quality is crap too.
deadbeat
confirmed new champion this year
B1rd
Japan vs Korea so intense
[-Cloud-]
Can't wait for JP vs Poland.
Rikashet
Me 2
Cyclohexane
That's the first time in OWC history that South Korea won't make the final 3.
1 third place, 3 victories.
Germany has never made the final 3.
Poland have 1 third place which they took last year.
Japan have never won the OWC, but they were second twice, each time losing to South Korea.

I seriously have no idea how the rest of this will go. What I do know is that not being able to commentate is killing me, and that I will definitely be there for the grand finals next week.
KRZY

Mr Color wrote:

What I do know is that not being able to commentate is killing me
Apparently it's killing the viewers too
AmaiHachimitsu
May I know what was wrong with the commentary? I didn' watch anything.
xAsylum
Nothing is wrong with commentators I watch everything. Just players are facking undecided as fack once they say commentators shouldn't talk to much cuz it bothers them and their watching experince and then they just tell commentators to stop talking cuz they want to hear the song, then some time later they blame commentators for not commenting to much and not good enough...
deadbeat
we had no ztrot or color. that's what was wrong :p
Topic Starter
Loctav
Sometimes I believe you just complain about this because you have nothing else to complain about.
AmaiHachimitsu

deadbeat wrote:

we had no ztrot or color. that's what was wrong :p

So that was probably the best-commentated match so far.

If it was e.g. Raiku and Jesse then I can't imagine them being destructive. I actually love when people who know something about the game commentate a match.

Raiku knows what device each player is using, what are his strong points, what is actually hard on a given map. Sorry but I regard ztrot being mostly a fill-the-hole. He is a native speaker so he won't budge as to say something, but doesn't change the fact that his knowledge is limited.
Makan1
that jp vs kr tie breaker....
zyvik_old
Can you change streaming site, or get partnership with Twitch? Watching stream is terrible expirience (sometimes its 2 sec of stream, 10s of lag).
Lucidity

zyvik wrote:

Can you change streaming site, or get partnership with Twitch? Watching stream is terrible expirience (sometimes its 2 sec of stream, 10s of lag).
I have the same issue.

The problem is that there are no video quality options a lot of the time. Currently in Ger vs Pol there is only Source available. In some countries terrible things such as internet bandwidth caps exist, which means watching the osu stream can be very costly.

Could the streamers not make an attempt at having multiple quality options available?
[-Cloud-]
ztrot sounds somwhat staged, or is it just me?
Darksonic
Germany 3:6 Poland

https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10966299

Cool game as expected, and results were a bit expected as well, nice job Poland!
Jetzu
GG to both teams, great game :)

Little question - will there be a new mappool for the grand final?

EDIT: btw. Amai with the disrespect on Neu, had the highest score and decided to fail to humiliate his opponent 8-)
Te Amo
Im pretty confused, so as Germany v Poland 1st place match or is it tomorrow?
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