The stream/tournament is disgusting overall. You can't tell whose the best of the best overall, which is what this tournament is about in the first place.
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Gotta say huge props to Color for trying to commentate all this shit.
I would feel kinda awkward, when every screen appears black and it's silent for like 20 seconds. Like 4k people are watching nothing, while waiting that the game appears again lol.Plaatinum wrote:
Gotta say huge props to Color for trying to commentate all this shit.
I haven't watched much today, but I will have to give credit to Peppy where it's due. As vocal as I have been about the negative side of things, I will say I did notice a significant decrease in the amount of fake combo breaks last week. There were a few, but not nearly as much as before. Kudos.
ddos world cup
More like "blame inconsistent connections on ddos world cup".Sieg wrote:
ddos world cup
fixed for you.Xayne wrote:
I haven't watched much today, but I will have to give credit toPeppysmoogipooo where it's due. As vocal as I have been about the negative side of things, I will say I did notice a significant decrease in the amount of fake combo breaks last week. There were a few, but not nearly as much as before. Kudos.
There was no reason to add loser's bracket for this cup. Loser's bracket must define winners more accurately (1st, 2nd, 3rd places). But nothing can to be defined accurately since permanently disconnectes ruin owc. There are too many random. This OWC can not be legit.
P.S. I guess, korean team is stronger, than russian team, but last match Russia-Korea is just dc roulette, nothing else. Random > skill difference.
P.S. I guess, korean team is stronger, than russian team, but last match Russia-Korea is just dc roulette, nothing else. Random > skill difference.
While you're at it, can you fix my car window? It leaks when it rains and I cri evri teim. ;-;Marcin wrote:
fixed for you.Xayne wrote:
I haven't watched much today, but I will have to give credit toPeppysmoogipooo where it's due. As vocal as I have been about the negative side of things, I will say I did notice a significant decrease in the amount of fake combo breaks last week. There were a few, but not nearly as much as before. Kudos.
There's been a few, but nowhere near as many as before. Good shit [insert dev here]!Xayne wrote:
I haven't watched much today, but I will have to give credit to Peppy where it's due. As vocal as I have been about the negative side of things, I will say I did notice a significant decrease in the amount of fake combo breaks last week. There were a few, but not nearly as much as before. Kudos.
The fakemisses made it pretty exciting sometimes though.
Don't blame peppy for Bad player connections. Everyone knows russian network is shiet. And also they added one point for Russia which was supposed to be point for Korea, but oh well they just didn't checked the match mp link correctly and thought that Russian won that one beatmap...
wow
can someone show me the mp link of korea and russia match?
nl is the only european country that went through in the loser bracket
That Russia vs South Korea game was.. wow.
nice, keep going nl
Kyshiro faito
Kyshiro faito
Russian Federation 5 6 South Korea http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10799208
Japan 6 0 Ukraine https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10800808
Sweden 3 6 Taiwan https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10801986
Netherlands 6 0 China https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10803221
Rematch vs Japan tomorrow
it's going to be last year all over again
it's going to be last year all over again
Holy shit, that's super scary. Congrats Dutchies.Marcin wrote:
Netherlands 6 0 China https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10803221
revenge time you meanSynchrostar wrote:
Rematch vs Japan tomorrow
it's going to be last year all over again
I know, that one definitely needed a rematch. I wish we could do this tournament in a stadium or something...Post Scriptum wrote:
There was no reason to add loser's bracket for this cup. Loser's bracket must define winners more accurately (1st, 2nd, 3rd places). But nothing can to be defined accurately since permanently disconnectes ruin owc. There are too many random. This OWC can not be legit.
P.S. I guess, korean team is stronger, than russian team, but last match Russia-Korea is just dc roulette, nothing else. Random > skill difference.
Hey guys,
will anyone be recording the half-finals / finals and upload them to youtube?
Right now it's pretty impossible to watch the matches for peolple who can't be there live.
will anyone be recording the half-finals / finals and upload them to youtube?
Right now it's pretty impossible to watch the matches for peolple who can't be there live.
they are saved for awhile on twitchFriek555 wrote:
Hey guys,
will anyone be recording the half-finals / finals and upload them to youtube?
Right now it's pretty impossible to watch the matches for peolple who can't be there live.
It's not impossible at all...Friek555 wrote:
Hey guys,
will anyone be recording the half-finals / finals and upload them to youtube?
Right now it's pretty impossible to watch the matches for peolple who can't be there live.
http://www.twitch.tv/osulive/profile/past_broadcasts
I wish we could get that OWC logo come up in on the menu screen everytime it is being streamed.
This Korea vs Taiwan game HOLY SHIT! What an amazing game! So freaking intense, Sayonara did amazing job getting FC, but I feel really sad for Small K cuz he slider breaked 
Hey guys I found out I just got listed on the thesaurus
I'm joking about the Polish team plz no hate ;_;
I'm joking about the Polish team plz no hate ;_;
who won Taiwan vs Korea?
if only they had Rucker...
Next time please don't let osu! client EVER SUDDENLY go back to main menu or whatever while playing a multiplayer match or waiting for results there
It could have been a better thing than triangles.
It could have been a better thing than triangles.
Rucker>hvick[-Cloud-] wrote:
FTFYB1rd wrote:
if only they hadRuckerhvick...
wait what the hell happened to Rucker????
..Taiwan for OWC dream dead
he wasn't allowed to play in the OWCB1rd wrote:
wait what the hell happened to Rucker
https://osu.ppy.sh/u/A2R
KRZY pls I believe in youKRZY wrote:
Hey guys I found out I just got listed on the thesaurus
I'm joking about the Polish team plz no hate ;_;
just imagine onodera cheering you on
Japan 6:4 Netherlands
https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10829960
Awesomeee and exciting match! the comeback was pretty close.
https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10829960
Awesomeee and exciting match! the comeback was pretty close.
rip netherlands
finals next year
finals next year
top 16 last yearsilmarilen wrote:
rip netherlands
finals next year
top 8 this year
top 4 next year
win owc in three years?
NL still the only european team to make the OWC finals :p
you guys can do it \o/Synchrostar wrote:
top 16 last yearsilmarilen wrote:
rip netherlands
finals next year
top 8 this year
top 4 next year
win owc in three years?
2010Mr Color wrote:
NL still the only european team to make the OWC finals :p
never forget
My god Tom94
Just hopping on the Tom94 hype train
My maps have killed enough people.
Nice Tom !!!
Nice Tom !!!
*Sterrum gets the best score of the round*
"WWW HYPE CARRY SO PRO OMGGGGGG"
"WWW HYPE CARRY SO PRO OMGGGGGG"
I never attempted in any way to gain pp on this account, so it's a given that it increases with random plays where I actually try hard.Jetzu wrote:
Tom94 with his 3rd best performance live, on stream, in a semi-final tiebreaker :O
Alas, that's just the way it goes I guess. Especially in an environment like Twitch chat..Pacemaker wrote:
*Sterrum gets the best score of the round*
"WWW HYPE CARRY SO PRO OMGGGGGG"
Just because this map is overrated and you can earn a lot of PP.
6 stars please, what a joke x)
6 stars please, what a joke x)
wtf is this poland 2 stronk, all of the players did a really good job almost on every maps
I think OWC 2nd and 3rd place players should get badge too
OWC's second and third place players should get badge too, It's always 1st place players who gets the badge on their user page. And the 2nd and 3rd players doesn't get anything except few support months
But people will forget who placed in 2nd or 3rd place as time goes because there's nothing that shows who got which place stuff. Like the first and second OWC.
We know Taiwan won first OWC and Korea Second. But anybody know which country got 3rd place? Some poeple might know but not many people really know about 2nd and 3rd place countries. Plus, there's no wiki for first and second OWC.
And it's too sad that they achieved 2nd 3rd place so hard and only few people will remember them, and eventually, forget 2nd, 3rd players.
So they should be rewarded badges too, for their hard work and effort-making it to 2nd and 3rd place. Like Olympic. You know, they have gold medal, silver medal, and bronze medal for each 1st place, 2nd place, and 3rd place. So if tournament staff make 2nd place and 3rd place badge, it will surely look good on them, and they will be somewhat satisfied that they can actually get something from becoming 2nd and 3rd place, and they got something people can see and remember. They should be praised too.
OWC's second and third place players should get badge too, It's always 1st place players who gets the badge on their user page. And the 2nd and 3rd players doesn't get anything except few support months
But people will forget who placed in 2nd or 3rd place as time goes because there's nothing that shows who got which place stuff. Like the first and second OWC.
We know Taiwan won first OWC and Korea Second. But anybody know which country got 3rd place? Some poeple might know but not many people really know about 2nd and 3rd place countries. Plus, there's no wiki for first and second OWC.
And it's too sad that they achieved 2nd 3rd place so hard and only few people will remember them, and eventually, forget 2nd, 3rd players.
So they should be rewarded badges too, for their hard work and effort-making it to 2nd and 3rd place. Like Olympic. You know, they have gold medal, silver medal, and bronze medal for each 1st place, 2nd place, and 3rd place. So if tournament staff make 2nd place and 3rd place badge, it will surely look good on them, and they will be somewhat satisfied that they can actually get something from becoming 2nd and 3rd place, and they got something people can see and remember. They should be praised too.
I mean I knew we werent going to win... But I really had hope deep down inside, and losing like this, 6-0 has made me extremely depressed. I pity those that go against Poland, they're absolutely monsters, dominating over everyone and everything. GGWP
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jK, Usa lost on purpose, didn't want to make every Poland fanboy cry.
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jK, Usa lost on purpose, didn't want to make every Poland fanboy cry.
talalea wrote:
I think OWC 2nd and 3rd place players should get badge too
OWC's second and third place players should get badge too, It's always 1st place players who gets the badge on their user page. And the 2nd and 3rd players doesn't get anything except few support months
But people will forget who placed in 2nd or 3rd place as time goes because there's nothing that shows who got which place stuff. Like the first and second OWC.
We know Taiwan won first OWC and Korea Second. But anybody know which country got 3rd place? Some poeple might know but not many people really know about 2nd and 3rd place countries. Plus, there's no wiki for first and second OWC.
And it's too sad that they achieved 2nd 3rd place so hard and only few people will remember them, and eventually, forget 2nd, 3rd players.
So they should be rewarded badges too, for their hard work and effort-making it to 2nd and 3rd place. Like Olympic. You know, they have gold medal, silver medal, and bronze medal for each 1st place, 2nd place, and 3rd place. So if tournament staff make 2nd place and 3rd place badge, it will surely look good on them, and they will be somewhat satisfied that they can actually get something from becoming 2nd and 3rd place, and they got something people can see and remember. They should be praised too.
I've been arguing on this topic last year, too.
But well, it's not that this tournament is made for players
Damn I wanna see Austria vs Germany
Someone please tell me you recorded it. Pretty please.
I think there should be an osu! world cup YouTube channel
Someone please tell me you recorded it. Pretty please.
I think there should be an osu! world cup YouTube channel
All Twitch live streams are recorded as vods, as far as I know.Friek555 wrote:
Damn I wanna see Austria vs Germany
Someone please tell me you recorded it. Pretty please.
I think there should be an osu! world cup YouTube channel
http://www.twitch.tv/osulive/b/594341854Friek555 wrote:
Damn I wanna see Austria vs Germany
Someone please tell me you recorded it. Pretty please.
I think there should be an osu! world cup YouTube channel
Topic Starter
Schedule is out (mother of god)
>potential US vs Korea match
This probably was a killer to schedule huh
This probably was a killer to schedule huh
As this year's OWC is nearly done i would want to give some feedback from how i have expierienced this tournament as a viewer and what i think was done good/bad and what other options there are to improve it for next year.
Good Stuff: I'm kinda happy that some of the points that have been discussed have been adressed this year. Fake misses were nearly eliminated. Twitch chat rules have gotten a lot more reasonable. Players were handled more respectfully after a certain incident. Commentators seem to have gotten quite a bit better since the start of the tournament. Mapsets were chosen really carefully, and were really good, maybe with the exception of group stages being too easy. Loser's bracket was introduced making it less possible on some random DC to effect to whole tournament really harshly.
What i think could still be changed:
DC's: How about, since OWC is handled on a different server anyways, as i understood it, if a player disconnects, his play wont be aborted and his score will be counted toward the multi-lobby after he finishes his map, no matter if he stayed connected the entire song? Idk how possible this is, but it would get rid of this issue entirely and no unfair wins would occur.
Twitch chat: While the moderation has gone down a lot, maybe let us say those pesky banned words, theres no real reason not to imo. At least put the chat rules somewhere in the streamdecription
Schedule: While i understand that 1 Hour seems like a good time interval for matches, it might be too tight to make it comfortably. The other match probably has not ended by then, so players had been pressured for it to hurry up while making their choices. Making it 1.5 Hours or even 2 until the next match starts would get rid of this and this should easily be doable after group stages.
Stream Quality: Maybe you could try applying for a sub button on twitch, so quality options are permanently unlocked? Also make sure the internet connection you are hosting the stream from is stable and strong enough, which sometimes didn't seem that way (i noticed frame drops and such, that were not related with twitch or my own internet connection).
Commentators: Be more courageous to talk! Come on, people just want to hear a voice that is confident in talking, not a shaky voice from someone who is uncertain I know you guys can do it, some of you run their own streams and do it well there aswell. So don't be shy or so. Long pauses are just akward for everyone involved. I think you also gotten better at this throughout the tournament as stated earlier.
Stream description: The info below the stream is as minimalistic as it gets. Put some more useful info into it.
Alright im done, take from it what you want and at least give it a thought ;D
Good Stuff: I'm kinda happy that some of the points that have been discussed have been adressed this year. Fake misses were nearly eliminated. Twitch chat rules have gotten a lot more reasonable. Players were handled more respectfully after a certain incident. Commentators seem to have gotten quite a bit better since the start of the tournament. Mapsets were chosen really carefully, and were really good, maybe with the exception of group stages being too easy. Loser's bracket was introduced making it less possible on some random DC to effect to whole tournament really harshly.
What i think could still be changed:
DC's: How about, since OWC is handled on a different server anyways, as i understood it, if a player disconnects, his play wont be aborted and his score will be counted toward the multi-lobby after he finishes his map, no matter if he stayed connected the entire song? Idk how possible this is, but it would get rid of this issue entirely and no unfair wins would occur.
Twitch chat: While the moderation has gone down a lot, maybe let us say those pesky banned words, theres no real reason not to imo. At least put the chat rules somewhere in the streamdecription
Schedule: While i understand that 1 Hour seems like a good time interval for matches, it might be too tight to make it comfortably. The other match probably has not ended by then, so players had been pressured for it to hurry up while making their choices. Making it 1.5 Hours or even 2 until the next match starts would get rid of this and this should easily be doable after group stages.
Stream Quality: Maybe you could try applying for a sub button on twitch, so quality options are permanently unlocked? Also make sure the internet connection you are hosting the stream from is stable and strong enough, which sometimes didn't seem that way (i noticed frame drops and such, that were not related with twitch or my own internet connection).
Commentators: Be more courageous to talk! Come on, people just want to hear a voice that is confident in talking, not a shaky voice from someone who is uncertain
I know you guys can do it, some of you run their own streams and do it well there aswell. So don't be shy or so. Long pauses are just akward for everyone involved. I think you also gotten better at this throughout the tournament as stated earlier.Stream description: The info below the stream is as minimalistic as it gets. Put some more useful info into it.
Alright im done, take from it what you want and at least give it a thought ;D
>JP vs USLoctav wrote:
Schedule is out (mother of god)
>7am my time
[sleep deprivation intensifies]
not anymore, we just don't know yet if its Tommany or WWWLandMr Color wrote:
NL still the only european team to make the OWC finals :p
shit, should've beaten you when we had the chancecptnXn wrote:
not anymore, we just don't know yet if its Tommany or WWWLandMr Color wrote:
NL still the only european team to make the OWC finals :p
At my time would be 4am...Mr Color wrote:
>JP vs USLoctav wrote:
Schedule is out (mother of god)
>7am my time
[sleep deprivation intensifies]
I'll save this forever XDTshemmp wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/osulive/b/594341854Friek555 wrote:
Damn I wanna see Austria vs Germany
Someone please tell me you recorded it. Pretty please.
I think there should be an osu! world cup YouTube channel
Except that twitch save vods for like 2 weeks. You might want to download it.TheLukay wrote:
I'll save this forever XD
Cola wrote:
after group stages.
Stream Quality: Maybe you could try applying for a sub button on twitch, No, no, no, that imposes more ads than already are present, we are considering moving to another streaming service for next wc though.
so quality options are permanently unlocked? twitch were Di--...Douches, seriously,
Also make sure the internet connection you are hosting the stream from is stable and strong enough, it is hosted from connection that is at least 100 mb/s synchronous.
which sometimes didn't seem that way (i noticed frame drops and such, that were not related with Frame drops were happening in early stages (before semi-finals but after group stage.), yes, but other than that it was either twitch or your internet (betting on twitch, holy shit i can't watch my own streamed content
Stream description: The info below the stream is as minimalistic as it gets. Put some more useful info into it.none looks at it anyway q.q
Extra ads only roll if you choose to roll them. Which of course, would be completely unnecessary.Marcin wrote:
Cola wrote:
after group stages.
Stream Quality: Maybe you could try applying for a sub button on twitch, No, no, no, that imposes more ads than already are present, we are considering moving to another streaming service for next wc though.
so quality options are permanently unlocked? twitch were Di--...Douches, seriously,
Also make sure the internet connection you are hosting the stream from is stable and strong enough, it is hosted from connection that is at least 100 mb/s synchronous.
which sometimes didn't seem that way (i noticed frame drops and such, that were not related with Frame drops were happening in early stages (before semi-finals but after group stage.), yes, but other than that it was either twitch or your internet (betting on twitch, holy shit i can't watch my own streamed content
Stream description: The info below the stream is as minimalistic as it gets. Put some more useful info into it.none looks at it anyway q.q
Also a lot of people look at the description.
hitbox is the way to go
dailymotion*KRZY wrote:
hitbox is the way to go
Last 2 videos are impossible to download through twitch tools: http://puu.sh/dfX0W/cd5974504c.png
The next 2 videos are loading a 2:20 minute long video.
As I have been working to get all the OWC on youtube, this is major drawback.
Anyone who has the raw video files please contact me.
The next 2 videos are loading a 2:20 minute long video.
As I have been working to get all the OWC on youtube, this is major drawback.
Anyone who has the raw video files please contact me.
xasuma wrote:
Last 2 videos are impossible to download through twitch tools: http://puu.sh/dfX0W/cd5974504c.png
The next 2 videos are loading a 2:20 minute long video.
As I have been working to get all the OWC on youtube, this is major drawback.
Anyone who has the raw video files please contact me.
If you mean these ones:
https://osu.ppy.sh/p/pp/?c=NE&m=0
Niger will win. Give up Poland, Korea, Japan, Taiwan. Pls, you stand no chance
Niger will win. Give up Poland, Korea, Japan, Taiwan. Pls, you stand no chance
Not even enough users to have a team xdMaus wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/p/pp/?c=NE&m=0
Niger will win. Give up Poland, Korea, Japan, Taiwan. Pls, you stand no chance
what about these 2 videos?
anyone able to watch them/download them?
anyone able to watch them/download them?
Go to Twitch tools and use links:xasuma wrote:
what about these 2 videos?
anyone able to watch them/download them?
http://www.twitch.tv/osulive/b/594261463 (3 hours)
http://www.twitch.tv/osulive/b/593886584 (4 hours)
It seems to work for me. (If you still have any problems with this I can download and upload it during weekend).
Thank you very much. I have no idea why mine was forwarding the videos to a different url. But thanks to your links I ll be able to work with them now. thanks a lot
So, I've taken some time and prepared some advanced statistics for Poland's performance during OWC.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
Note that this is purely judgmental, counted manually map by map. There might be slight mistakes, but it's just for fun, though I always wanted the OWC official stats to look like this.
There's a better view of the scoreboards in another sheet at the bottom of the drive menu, you can sort the scoreboard by values there.
If you have any suggestions feel free to speak.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
Note that this is purely judgmental, counted manually map by map. There might be slight mistakes, but it's just for fun, though I always wanted the OWC official stats to look like this.
There's a better view of the scoreboards in another sheet at the bottom of the drive menu, you can sort the scoreboard by values there.
If you have any suggestions feel free to speak.
It took him 1 hour and is really well done and, what's the most important, it's interesting to read.
On the other hand, Marcin has done nothing.
Pick people who aren't "busy" next time, peppy. Actually those kinds of one-team focused stats could be done by a group of people, each for one/two teams.
On the other hand, Marcin has done nothing.
Pick people who aren't "busy" next time, peppy. Actually those kinds of one-team focused stats could be done by a group of people, each for one/two teams.
I would agree with this.
It is less interesting that you can't see which map is banned during the tournament, except when you're in twitch (maybe, I never streaming at there lol).
And also at least something map statistics should have been done (not about little girl and stuff lol)
It is less interesting that you can't see which map is banned during the tournament, except when you're in twitch (maybe, I never streaming at there lol).
And also at least something map statistics should have been done (not about little girl and stuff lol)
It's ridiculous how JP vs KR is getting hyped as the topmatch of the entire OWC by commentators, while Poland is destroying every opponent they get. I could understand it, if KR would play with their strongest players or it would be JP vs PL, but KR vs JP? Meh.
japan and korea have always been strong teams in the OWC. it's only natural that people go nuts when they end up face each other
Real vs FCB will be a Gran Derbi regardless of the teams' shape and roster.
In this case virtually anyone would do better (he/she would do something at least).
Marcin is doing the streaming and I've no idea what they put him in charge of statistics.nya10 wrote:
I would agree with this.
It is less interesting that you can't see which map is banned during the tournament, except when you're in twitch (maybe, I never streaming at there lol).
And also at least something map statistics should have been done (not about little girl and stuff lol)
In this case virtually anyone would do better (he/she would do something at least).